Guest guest Posted February 16, 2002 Report Share Posted February 16, 2002 Debbie Asked: " Sose, can these be infused? " Sure. In that case though, you would use the whole plant above the ground. This means flower too. In a poultice, the flower doesn't do much good, and you might as well save them for eating or making into something through infusion (water, alcohol, or oil). Just cut off the tops of the plants, usually down about half way of the total height, and use that as your plant material for whatever method. The stalks do need to be bruised if not crushed first, and it helps to bruise the leaves a bit too. Blessings, Soseneda AIM: SosenedaA ICQ: 47264444 : soseneda_arianrhod MSN: Soseneda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 Usually it is always the root... but the leaves and flowers are used in teas - not sure about other things... I only use the root myself, I feed the leaves to my does when they aren't feeling up to par... Below is something i have on echinacea which may help you somewhat.. as far as the age of the root... I have it growing... I never take 1st year roots... Suzi The root now confirmed by modern science as adaptogen, alterative, anti-inflammatory, antibiotic, antiseptic, aphrodisiac, depurative, diaphoretic, digestive, sialagogue. Echinacea is considered to be a most effective detoxicant for the urinary tract, circulatory, lymphatic, and respiratory systems. The roots and the whole plant are considered particularly beneficial in the external treatment of psoriasis, eczema and inflammatory skin conditions, sores, wounds, burns, and sore throat, possessing cortisone-like and antibacterial activity as well as showing skin regenerating properties. It also contains chemicals that are highly insecticidal particularly to mosquitoes and house flies.Bridge <bbaas wrote: I will add another question here. Is the flower as good as the root? And if I have to use the roots, is it the second year or the third? Avec Amour, Bridge When you come to the edge of all that you know,you must believe in one of two things: there will be earth upon which to stand, or you will be given wings. ~author unknown~ ---- herbal remedies August 20, 2003 11:40:36 AM Herbal Remedies [herbal remedies] echinaecha To make an echineacha tincture, can I use the dried herb or is the fresh herb the only way to go? Blessed Be! MtMoonKitty __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 With all due respect Anna, You are not bordering on political anything. You are just trashing the egotistical, power and money grubbing conglomopharmamedagro cartel. Plain and simple. Yes even the Federal Death Administration and Drug Every American are included in this along with a few more that I can't come up with right now. It is all about power and money and very little to do with individuals and their well being. Don Quai - DrCrandall herbal remedies Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:53 PM RE: [herbal remedies] Echinacea Oh, yes, Wendy, the media conglomerate in Amerika LOVES to ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release 11/6/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 It's always been my understanding that one should not take echinacea for more than a week straight. Maybe that is why. I've not heard of that type of result, but it's good to think around the issue. Perhaps your body wasn't really up to snuff on it's own. And by not diligently building your system and cleaning out toxins while taking the echinacea, your body did exactly what you supposed. Debra - reuschling1 herbal remedies Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:18 PM Herbal Remedies - Echinacea I used to take Echinacea in the winter to help preventcolds. However, I stopped this practice after Inoticed a trend. I should mention that I would onlytake it for like one month at a time (primarily in theheart of cold/flu season), and it seemed to keep mevery healthy while I was on it. Then as soon as Iwould stop taking it, I would get a very bad cold. Infact I noticed that I would end up being sicker forlonger than my friends from whom I caught it. Italmost seemed like my immune system got used to theEchinacea and it became like a crutch for myimmune system...as if my immune system became lazywhile I was on it. Have you heard any similarcomplaints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 you should only take Echinacea for 3-4 days in a row. Then take a 5-7 day break. Also, when you feel a cold-the first symptoms- take it very religiously for 4 days. Clinical trials have proven it shortens the duration of a cold and keeps a cold from developing into an infection lower in your chest. Debra Savage <gdwmn65 wrote: It's always been my understanding that one should not take echinacea for more than a week straight. Maybe that is why. I've not heard of that type of result, but it's good to think around the issue. Perhaps your body wasn't really up to snuff on it's own. And by not diligently building your system and cleaning out toxins while taking the echinacea, your body did exactly what you supposed. Debra - reuschling1 herbal remedies Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:18 PM Herbal Remedies - Echinacea I used to take Echinacea in the winter to help preventcolds. However, I stopped this practice after Inoticed a trend. I should mention that I would onlytake it for like one month at a time (primarily in theheart of cold/flu season), and it seemed to keep mevery healthy while I was on it. Then as soon as Iwould stop taking it, I would get a very bad cold. Infact I noticed that I would end up being sicker forlonger than my friends from whom I caught it. Italmost seemed like my immune system got used to theEchinacea and it became like a crutch for myimmune system...as if my immune system became lazywhile I was on it. Have you heard any similarcomplaints? Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Use the Flowers, Leaf and Stems for Echinacea Tea. Use the Roots for Tincturing (see instructions in the Files) In Health, Freedom, and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - cinderellarmy herbal remedies Friday, July 21, 2006 7:27 PM Herbal Remedies - echinacea I've got a garden full of echinacea blooming and I'm wondering how andwhat to harvest to use this herb: flower, leaf, root? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Don't stop taking it Marci. Many people think that an allergic reaction is bad ALL THE TIME. What people aren't aware of is that some "supposed" allergic reactions are nothing more than a detox and not an allergic reaction at all. In your case the Echinacea is creating a detox. It is even possible the Ragweed is creating a detox. Keep doing what you're doing and eventually allergies (all of 'em) will become a thing of the past for you. Cleansing is the key here. Even so, almost all true allergies are nothing more than an indication of a debilitated, toxic Liver. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Marci HerbalRemedies Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:28 PM Herbal Remedies - Echinacea I just realized that echinacea is part of the ragweed family. When I do my week on of echinacea I do sneeze more than normal but don't notice anything really major...although I am allergic to ragweed. Should I not be taking this because it's a known allergen for me or is it still ok to take? Marci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Doc, they also say if one can find some local unheated raw honey, that taking a spoonful of that a day will help against allergies."Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Don't stop taking it Marci. Many people think that an allergic reaction is bad ALL THE TIME. What people aren't aware of is that some "supposed" allergic reactions are nothing more than a detox and not an allergic reaction at all. In your case the Echinacea is creating a detox. It is even possible the Ragweed is creating a detox. Keep doing what you're doing and eventually allergies (all of 'em) will become a thing of the past for you. Cleansing is the key here. Even so, almost all true allergies are nothing more than an indication of a debilitated, toxic Liver. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com - Marci HerbalRemedies Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:28 PM Herbal Remedies - Echinacea I just realized that echinacea is part of the ragweed family. When I do my week on of echinacea I do sneeze more than normal but don't notice anything really major...although I am allergic to ragweed. Should I not be taking this because it's a known allergen for me or is it still ok to take? Marci Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 Yup! Gotta be raw and unrefined. Bee Pollen is even better, but can start a full blown detox if you're not too healthy to begin with. Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - tony vergilatis herbal remedies Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Echinacea Doc, they also say if one can find some local unheated raw honey, that taking a spoonful of that a day will help against allergies."Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington (AT) Knology (DOT) net> wrote: Don't stop taking it Marci. Many people think that an allergic reaction is bad ALL THE TIME. What people aren't aware of is that some "supposed" allergic reactions are nothing more than a detox and not an allergic reaction at all. In your case the Echinacea is creating a detox. It is even possible the Ragweed is creating a detox. Keep doing what you're doing and eventually allergies (all of 'em) will become a thing of the past for you. Cleansing is the key here. Even so, almost all true allergies are nothing more than an indication of a debilitated, toxic Liver. Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc (AT) AcademyOfNaturalHealing (DOT) com - Marci HerbalRemedies Thursday, September 07, 2006 4:28 PM Herbal Remedies - Echinacea I just realized that echinacea is part of the ragweed family. When I do my week on of echinacea I do sneeze more than normal but don't notice anything really major...although I am allergic to ragweed. Should I not be taking this because it's a known allergen for me or is it still ok to take? Marci Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 At what strength of Echinacea does one get the most benefit? I'm using 400mg six times a day is that enough or can I increase the amount for the winter months in southern US? I've been seeking the alternative health style for several years but have not found what will do me the best for my lifestyle. Does anyone have an explanation of what is best. Also I recently donated one of my kidneys to my neice and I don't want to overtax the other good kidney. I'm willing to listen to someone with more knowledge than myself but don't send to WEB,MD, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Hello. I make my own tinctures and I make echinacea so can't really talk about capsules, but when you are ill you can't take too much echi. Thing is, you do NOT want to take echi every day! Echinacea is only for when you feel something coming on. If you take it every day all the time your body won't kick in its own immune effect so strongly when you really need it, because the echi is kind of keeping it stimulated all the time. So--you can take it when flu or cold season starts for a couple of weeks to kind of boost your immunity, but then stop taking it. Then, if you wind up starting to feel yucky " or like you are coming down with something, then take a LOT of it. I would say take it and a capsule of vitamin C every hour, or every other hour This will stop any cold or flu in 24 to 48 hours. In your case make double sure you always drink plenty of good water. This should help keep your kidney clean. Samala Renee ---- At what strength of Echinacea does one get the most benefit? I'm using 400mg six times a day is that enough or can I increase the Amount for the winter months in southern US? I've been seeking the alternative health style for several years but Have not found what will do me the best for my lifestyle. Does anyone have an explanation of what is best. Also I recently donated one of my kidneys to my niece and I don't want To overtax the other good kidney. I'm willing to listen to someone with more knowledge than myself but Don't send to WEB,MD, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Renee wrote: Echinacea is only for when you feel something coming on. If you take it every day all the time your body won't kick in its own immune effect so strongly when you really need it, because the echi is kind of keeping it stimulated all the time. That idea has always made perfect sense to me. But then I read somewhere that Echi is fine to take all the time. Apparently a mistranslation of a German article caused the misunderstanding that it has to be pulsed. Now I can't remember where I read that. Does anyone know? Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Nope, never heard of being able to take it all the time. It's not an adaptogen herb, simply an immune stimulant. I don't think I'd want to stimulate my immune system all the time. I don't even think about pulsing it, just using it when needed. Think I'll save mine for that. I believe there are better herbs to boost the immune system that can be taken on a regular basis, like garlic, without stimulating it constantly. I guess in my mind boosting and stimulating are two different things. Boosting is to help your system work naturally at its peak condition, and stimulating is to give it a big jump start. Of course, that's just my personal opinion. :-) Samala Renee ---- That idea has always made perfect sense to me. But then I read somewhere that Echi is fine to take all the time. Apparently a mistranslation of a German article caused The misunderstanding that it has to be pulsed. Now I can't remember where I read that. Does anyone Know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 i used to take it all the time for epstein barr. but then my dr(who also has epstein-barr) took me off because he said it was bad to stimulate it all the time, that eventually my body would think it was sicker than it was, because the immune system was always peaking. and then i would get an auto immune diease. this was about a decade ago. i am fine today, just need a nap now and then Renee <gaiacita wrote: Nope, never heard of being able to take it all the time. It's not an adaptogen herb, simply an immune stimulant. I don't think I'd want to stimulate my immune system all the time. I don't even think about pulsing it, just using it when needed. Think I'll save mine for that. I believe there are better herbs to boost the immune system that can be taken on a regular basis, like garlic, without stimulating it constantly. I guess in my mind boosting and stimulating are two different things. Boosting is to help your system work naturally at its peak condition, and stimulating is to give it a big jump start. Of course, that's just my personal opinion. :-) Samala Renee ---- That idea has always made perfect sense to me. But then I read somewhere that Echi is fine to take all the time. Apparently a mistranslation of a German article caused The misunderstanding that it has to be pulsed. Now I can't remember where I read that. Does anyone Know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Yes, I understand. Echi is so strong (well, rightly made echi tincture is :-) that it has been known to stop anafalectic shock from insect bites if taken right away in big enough amounts. Like a couple ounces all at once. It s a powerful stimulator so constantly keeping the system stimulated just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. But then, that's my personal choice. Glad you have the epstein-barr under control. Samala Renee ---- I used to take it all the time for epstein barr. But then my Dr(who also has epstein-barr) took me off because he said it was bad to stimulate it all the time, that eventually my body would think it was sicker than it was, because the immune system was always peaking. And then I would get an auto immune diease. This was about a decade ago. I am fine today, just need a nap now and then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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