Re:Explanation of - Email account utilization warning.

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am pretty new to your list but I thought I would tell you that some of the

things happening on this list are happening on other lists I am on.

The virus thing is happening even more on the LowCarb Recipe Exchange and

Candiasis groups amoung others. Pretty scary because it says will be shut

down and use this number to access your account.

At our company my dh is getting e-mails from staff at his company. There is no

such e-mail address but it is the name of his company.

 

As far as taking so long for individuals to change their accounts that is

happening on a lot of my often and has been for a long time.

 

As for erasing some of the past posts I would think that would be against the

rules or something. I think they start getting so all powerful without anybody

to answer to. I can't believe some of the things that have happened to you. I

know some of the other lists have had trouble and some have moved.

I have copies of some posts on my other lists going back a couple of years but I

just joined this group.

Wow, I did a search in my mailbox and I joined Nov 18. Time flies.

SheilaN

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califpacific

Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:57 AM

Re:Explanation of - Email account

utilization warning.

 

 

I would like to explain.

 

I know that there are many viruses going around. They are everywhere.

 

I have a email account. I have a . mail is a

web based program and does not reside on my computer but on 's.

 

Both the email account and run anti virus email programs

continuously to scan for email viruses. I also have an antivirus

program on my computer.

 

As I understand viruses, they will replicate and send out more

viruses, usually to the persons listed in their address book and then

those replicate, etc.

 

If the ones that I received were from people I would understand that,

but these were supposedly from .com and then supposedly from myself. How

did they they get through the antispam software of .com and

with it's up to date antivirus software and replicate?

 

It seemed like that there were changes in the headers that appeared

unlike replications that I would expect to see in a virus program,

but I am not that knowledgable about email addressing, which is why I

threw it out to the group.

 

If I sound a little paranoid, maybe I am that or a little gun shy at

least at this point.

 

I won't go into a lot of details and I cannot remember some of them,

but this group and a few others have had quite a bit of trouble with

. Nothing in overt way, but very strange indeed.

 

At one point, this group and a couple of others were experiencing

long delays in posts making it to the board. They could be anywhere

from one hour to 6 or 7 hours to get to the board after posting.

 

I felt that this group was being hit more severly than some of the

other hand full of groups ( most of them were alternative medicine or

at least alternative something) experiencing it.

 

Well, after some collective digging on the part of affected people,

they came up with the information that for a few groups the messages

were being sent to some address in Arizona where they would lie

for an undetermined amount of time before they would be sent on. This

went on for weeks.

 

Prior to that, I was locked out of about half of the of the

management functions for our for about 8 months. They

were the ones where you could see who and what was being posted other

than regular messages from the group and other things. My queries to

were unfruitful.

 

One day I seemed to detect that someone was rummaging around in the

but didn't determine who. At first I thought that I must

be one of the moderators.

 

But no, it was someone who had access to level controls because

when they were messing around they somehow screwed up somethings. Not

myself nor the moderators have access to those type of controls to

change things.I wont tell you all that happened but I can show you

some artifacts from that time. We lost two years of information off

the front page.

 

I will explain. This group was started in Oct 2001. There was a

display as on all that displays the number of messages

posted each month covering a full year and for showing all of the

years. This happened in Jan 2003. At that time our calender of

postings started over from Jan. 2003 which currently shows something

like 25 postings for Jan. 2003. All of 20001 disappeared.

 

 

All of 2002 disappeared and all of Jan. 20003 disappeared. It started

over from there at the end of January 2003 and shows 25 for that

month. I do not know of any other board being affected in the same

way and when I brought the problem up to , I got nothing.

 

 

About this same time is when about half the controls went on the

fritz. They didn't affect the running of the group, but it did limit

my ability to get information on some group activities and to see

what things were going on. That went on for about a year.

 

If you wish, go to the home page and compare the start date with what

displays in the years and months of a past calender of postings for

this group. As I said before, I can't find any other group who has

been affected similarly.

 

There were a number of other things that happened over the course of

time with the group and my personal email account. I wont go

into them now.

 

One thing that seems to be happening now, but do not know if it is

happening to other groups is when someone wants to change their

membership status it takes weeks sometimes to do so. Weeks??? When

they put in an email request to change to no mail or whatever, it can

go on for weeks without being changed. Some have put in dozens of

requests to no avail. It still takes weeeks. Wow, I have heard of

slow servers, but that is ridiculous. LOL. Most everyone gets mad

eventually and leaves the group, but the request takes days or weeks

and then they get even madder.

 

So, if someone can explain the emails in depth I would appreciate it.

And if they can explain the other things with any reasonable

explaination I would appreciate it also.

 

paranoiacally yours,

 

Frank

 

 

 

, " Eloise Bailey "

<pray@w...> wrote:

> I received three of these today.....just the sender was

changed.......one

> was from my ISP....worldnet........I later got a warning from World

Net

> about it....so it is just going all over....all of mine had

different

> numbers for passwords.......so it is all over........

>

> Eloise

> .

>

>

> > Here are the headers for the spam/virus message sent to the group.

> > Anyone with some real expertise to help with these headers in the

> > group?

> >

> > The group has been the target of many things to hurt it and I am

> > usually under attack personally in one form or another almost

> > continuously, not to mention the 300 spam emails a day I receive.

> >

> > Frank

> >

> >

> > X-Apparently-califpacific via 66.218.78.170; Wed, 03

> > Mar 2004 17:15:55 -0800

> > Return-Path: <sentto-4198251-19031-1078362912-

> > califpacific=@r...>

> > Received: from 66.218.66.64 (HELO n1.grp.scd.)

> > (66.218.66.64) by mta237.mail.scd. with SMTP; Wed, 03 Mar

> > 2004 17:15:55 -0800

> > X-eGroups-Return: sentto-4198251-19031-1078362912-

> > califpacific=@r...

> > Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n1.grp.scd. with NNFMP;

04

> > Mar 2004 01:15:13 -0000

> > X-Sender: califpacific

> > X-Apparently-alternative_medicine_forum

> > Received: (qmail 75405 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2004

01:14:51 -

> > 0000

> > Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m13.grp.scd.

with

> > QMQP; 4 Mar 2004 01:14:51 -0000

> > Received: from unknown (HELO bonnie) (138.88.169.121) by

> > mta5.grp.scd. with SMTP; 4 Mar 2004 01:14:50 -0000

> > alternative_medicine_forum

> > Message-ID: <bvkyggneatshfqgplmn >

> > X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 138.88.169.121

> > X-eGroups-administration

> > califpacific Add to Address Book

> > X--Profile: califpacific

> > MIME-Version: 1.0

> > Mailing-List: list ;

> > contact -owner

> > Delivered-mailing list

> > Precedence: bulk

> > List-Un: <-

> > >

> > Wed, 03 Mar 2004 20:14:49 -0500

> > Email account utilization

> > warning.

> > Reply-to:

> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary= " QXPYepu6zv3Bwo0JjT5-

> > lCFMNeSF6T2OwocyYt9 "

> > Content-Length: 1308

> >

> >

> > , " califpacific "

> > <califpacific> wrote:

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I did not send this email, but it was probably sent by someone

in

> > the

> > > group.

> > >

> > > From what I understand, this is a somewhat typical virus email.

> > >

> > > This group is configured so that all attachments are removed, so

> > you

> > > will not get a virus from it, but someone tried to infect our

> > > membership. If you receive an email from me not through the

group,

> > > delete it as it is not from me.

> > >

> > > All of you should be using an antivirus program anyway as there

are

> > a

> > > lot of jerks out there, who cannot construct much in their

lives,

> > so

> > > they feel some power in their weak little pointy heads if the

can

> > > hurt or destroy. They are typical low class losers.

> > >

> > > Frank

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> > califpacific

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear user of " .com " mailing system,

> > > >

> > > > We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your

> > > computer may

> > > > contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and e-mail

> > > account safe,

> > > > please, follow the instructions.

> > > >

> > > > For further details see the attach.

> > > >

> > > > In order to read the attach you have to use the following

> > > password: 74340.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely,

> > > > The .com team

> > > http://www.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

>

> So, if someone can explain the emails in depth I would appreciate it.

> And if they can explain the other things with any reasonable

> explaination I would appreciate it also.

>

> paranoiacally yours,

>

> Frank

>

>

I wish I could explain, Frank. Now has sent me an email

threatening to cancel me. They say I probably have a worm. I spent

$70 today getting Norton. I ran it, and nothing is there that it can

detect. I have been getting return mail from people I do not know,

and, there have been virus warnings on mails from .

 

I am puzzled.

K

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I have had this trouble too. I ran a scan and

there was no virus so I just ignored it. I did not

know the name on the emails either. Now if I do not

recognise the name or group I do not open any mail I

just automatically delete. I have spamguard on and

yesterday I had a mail which said it was from

groups and had an attachment but it had been sent to

my bulk mail so I reasoned if it was really from

it wuold have been delivered to my normal in box.I

think that was someone pretending to be and

sending a worm so I deleted it without reading. I

think at the moment someone is sending worms all over

but if anyone belongs to other groups it would be

interesting to know if they were having the same

problems.

 

Best wishes

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Chris Garen wrote:

 

> Hi Kathy,

> I have had this trouble too. I ran a scan and

>there was no virus so I just ignored it. I did not

>know the name on the emails either. Now if I do not

>recognise the name or group I do not open any mail I

>just automatically delete. I have spamguard on and

>yesterday I had a mail which said it was from

>groups and had an attachment but it had been sent to

>my bulk mail so I reasoned if it was really from

>it wuold have been delivered to my normal in box.I

>think that was someone pretending to be and

>sending a worm so I deleted it without reading. I

>think at the moment someone is sending worms all over

>but if anyone belongs to other groups it would be

>interesting to know if they were having the same

>problems.

>

>

The virus/worms " spoof " a person's email address and it is usually not

from the address you see on the infected email. It most likely means

that someone on the list has an infected computer.

 

DL

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

I think what you are getting is a worm or virus itself. That was going around

for a while also. I don't think was threatening to cancel you, that is

probably a virus also. Maybe you should get a hold of somebody at . But

don't do it from the e-mail you spoke of. At one of my groups that is the one

that is going around.

Never open any attachments. At the group this is happening to, the attachments

are removed before hand, but it came as a link. I don't know if that would have

been bad to click on, I didn't try it ;^)

Hope this helps. SheilaN

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Kathy Dery

Cc: Kathy Dery

Friday, March 05, 2004 3:32 AM

Re: Re:Explanation of - Email account

utilization warning.

 

 

>

> So, if someone can explain the emails in depth I would appreciate it.

> And if they can explain the other things with any reasonable

> explaination I would appreciate it also.

>

> paranoiacally yours,

>

> Frank

>

>

I wish I could explain, Frank. Now has sent me an email

threatening to cancel me. They say I probably have a worm. I spent

$70 today getting Norton. I ran it, and nothing is there that it can

detect. I have been getting return mail from people I do not know,

and, there have been virus warnings on mails from .

 

I am puzzled.

K

[Guest guest]

True, but how do we know who and what?

K

On Mar 5, 2004, at 4:25 AM, d.linen wrote:

 

> The virus/worms " spoof " a person's email address and it is usually not

> from the address you see on the infected email. It most likely means

> that someone on the list has an infected computer.

>

> DL