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Wayne Fugitt

Sun, 08 Feb 2004 22:55:34 -0600

[MC_USA] 30 GRAMS of Vitamin C " Will Kill you "

 

See how a nurse refused to do an IV with Vitamin C, thinking it would kill the

patient. This is a classic example of ignorance and disagreement between

medical professionals, at the very moment when your life depends on science,

knowledge, and agreement between the medical personnel on the scene.

 

IV Magnesium can save your life after a heart attack too. Your chances or

getting it is about ONE in 10,000,000.

 

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Case from the Center: Intravenous Vitamin C in a Terminal Cancer Patient

 

Neil Riordan (1); James A. Jackson, Ph.D. (2); Hugh D. Riordan, M.D.(1)

 

 

In October, 1995 the author (NR) was completing a clinical rotation with a

physician in a rural comunity as part of his Physician Assistant Training. His

responsibilities included covering the Emergency Room in the hospital and

helping the town physician at his three clinics. Emergency Room call was shared

with a medical student and the hospital and clinic rotation was for five weeks.

A week into the training, a home health care agency nurse visited the clinic and

asked if the medical student or the author knew of a treatment that could help a

" terminal " breast cancer patient with pain control. She said the patient had

cancer for several years and the latest bone scan showed that the cancer had

metastasized to " nearly every bone in her skeleton. " She was particularly

worried about pain from ametastatic lesion in the the patient's left upper arm.

The patient was taking I.V. morphine for pain and needed sublingual morphine to

cope with pain associated with getting up and going to the

bathroom.

 

The medical student (who planned on a career in pain management and anesthesia),

enthusiastically described a nerve block procedure that would relieve the pain

but, " unfortunately, " loss of function of the arm, as well. Information about

the experiences at The Center with the control of metastatic bone pain using

high doses of intravenous vitamin C was given to the nurse. She was also

furnished with references describing the usefulness of Vitamin C in helping

cancer patients. One article, from the present authors, (NR, JAJ, HDR) described

the preferential toxicity of vitamin C toward tumor cells, and presented

evidence listing the plasma concentrations of vitamin C that would be beneficial

as a preferential cytotoxic agent in humans.

 

The nurse's reaction was less than enthusiastic. She said she would ask the

patient if she was interested and would also ask the physician if he would be

willing to try something like vitamin C. Since the doses suggested in the

article were in excess of 100 grams intravenous per day, and the RDA for vitamin

C is 60 mg per day, a positive reply was not expected. Some physicians and

health care workers believe (wrongly) that any dose over two grams intravenously

will either kill you or make you very ill by inducing an acidotic state. As fate

would have it, this patient visited the clinic the next day complaining of a

painful, swollen, left arm. A Doppler venogram revealed both subclavian veins to

be blocked by blood clots. She was admitted to the hospital and started on

anticoagulant therapy. Many staff did not think she would leave the hospital

alive.

During clinical rounds, the patient said that she had read the paper on vitamin

C and was anxious to try the I.V. C therapy because it offered her some hope.

Also, the Home Health nurse said that she and the physician had read the article

and were were willing to try the I.V. vitamin C treatments. The physician later

said he was enthusiastic to try something that could actually have a positive

effect on the pain and disease processes. He also said that he wanted to clear

the blood clots before starting the vitamin C treatment. He was concerned that

if an embolism occurred and the patient died, it would be blamed on the I.V.

vitamin C treatment (obviously an enlightened physician). He did start the

patient on oral vitamin C, 250 mg per day, to prevent scurvy, a common

occurrence in disseminated metastatic disease. The patient was treated one time

with Activase R to clear the clots. An arterial blood sample was drawn from the

patient's wrist shortly after the anticoagulant therapy.

This resulted in extensive subcutaneous bleeding with bruising of the entire

arm, and the site subsequently became infected, swollen, and hot to the touch.

She continued to receive small doses of I.V. and oral anticoagulant therapy,

antibiotic therapy and oral vitamin C. The infection had not cleared within a

week, probably due to poor circulation in the arm and depressed immune system of

the patient. The next week, the patient's physician visited Wichita and spoke to

H Riordan at The Center. Riordan furnished him with vitamin C to use in the I.V.

treatment.

After two weeks, the patient was strong enough to take high doses of I.V.

vitamin C. Her physician ordered 30 grams of vitamin C given I.V. in Ringer's

Lactate solution. One of the nurses said that she had never heard of such a high

dose and she would not administer it " because it would kill the patient. " She

was assured by the author (NR) that patients at The Center and other clinical

sites had been given 100 grams and more of I.V. C without any ill effects, and

that he had personally taken 60 grams I.V. with no side effects. The nurse was

still not convinced.

 

To prove the safety of the I.V. C, the author started an I.V. infusion of 30

grams of vitamin C in Ringer's Lactate on himself.

 

He was seated next to the nurse with the I.V. pole between them. The infusion

lasted an hour and all the time the nurse was saying " you are going to die " and

wanted witnesses to the fact that she would not be held responsible. As

expected, there were no side effects and after further observation for ill

effects by the head nurse for several hours, she finally agreed to give the I.V.

vitamin C to the patient.

The patient received 30 grams I.V. vitamin C on the first day, 40 the next day

and 50 the following day. After the third dose her right arm was completely

without swelling and the swelling in her left arm was greatly decreased. Most

notably, the infection in her left hand began to resolve, and she did not need

to take sublingual morphine for pain. All, including the physician, nurses and

patient were very impressed. The physician ordered additional shipments of

vitamin C to continue the infusions. Infusions of vitamin C were increased to

100 grams per day, administered over five hours.

Within one week of starting the increased vitamin C infusions, the patient was

walking around the halls of the hospital, looking like a new person. As the

clinical rotation came to an end, the patient invited everyone connected with

the vitamin C treatment to her room for a pizza party. The patient had her hair

done and makeup on, something she had not done in the recent past. It was a

wonderful pizza party, especially for a terminally ill cancer patient, once

bedridden with intractable pain due to disseminated bone metastasis who,

previously, was given a few weeks to live. After leaving the hospital, telephone

calls were made to the physician to follow up on this patient. He said that she

was discharged from the hospital one week after the vitamin C treatments were

began. She continued to take high dose I.V. C treatments three times a week at

home. Three months after she began the I.V. C treatments she was surviving with

resolution of metastasis to the skull as shown on the bone

scan. This case illustrates problems encountered when dealing with health care

workers who know little about complementary medicine. One example is the head

nurse who thought that 30 grams of I.V. C " will kill you " and refused to

administer it until proven otherwise. Yet the nurse probably had no hesitation

in giving massive doses of intravenous morphine to the same patient. This case

also illustrates that, occasionally, one encounters a physician who is willing

to listen to his patient and try treatments not accepted by the conventional

medical community. In this instance, both the physician and the patient

benefitted.

Case Update

As this article was in the process of being submitted for publication,

additional information was learned about this patient. Upon discharge from the

hospital, she returned home to find her husband dead, apparently of natural

causes. During a three month time period, in addition to her husband, her

brother and nephew also died. It was also learned that while walking at a

shopping mall, she apparently fell, breaking her hip. She was readmitted to the

hospital where she died a short time later.

 

References

1. Riordan NH, et al: Intravenous Ascorbate as a Tumour Cytotoxic

Chemotherapeutic Agent. Medical Hypothesis, 1994; 9;2: 207-213

2. Jackson JA, et al: High dose Intravenous Vitamin C in the Treatment of a

Patient with Adenocarcinoma of he Kidney–A Case Study. J.Orthomol Med , 1990; 5:

1:57.

 

 

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