Ingredients for E.M. Power not so impressive

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

 

I was reading with interest about the product E M Power which is meant to

help with bipolar and other mental disorders. However, can I just ask people

whether they feel a little skeptical after reading the list of ingredients

below? With the exception of B9, Vitamin H, and whatever the proprietary

blend

is, they minerals are just not much to get excited about. Any comments?

 

Marti

 

 

 

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Empowerplus capsules, made of the highest quality ingredients, is a

scientifically proven alternative mental illness treatment

 

 

Nutrient  Amount Per Serving

Vitamin A 960 IU

Vitamin C 100 mg

Vitamin D 240 IU

Vitamin E   60 IU

Vitamin B1 3 mg

Vitamin B2 2.25 mg

Vitamin B3 15 mg

Vitamin B5 3.6 mg

Vitamin B6 6 mg

Vitamin B9 240 mcg

Vitamin B12 150 mcg

Vitamin H 180 mcg

Calcium  220 mg

Phosphorous  140 mg

Magnesium  100 mg

Potassium  40 mg

Iodine 34 mcg

Zinc  8 mg

Selenium  34 mcg

Copper  1.2 mg

Manganese  1.6 mg

Chromium  104 mcg

Molybdenum  24 mcg

Iron  2.29 mg

CNS PROPRIETARY BLEND  277 mg 

dl-phenylalanine, glutamine, citrus bioflavanoids, grape seed, choline

bitartrate, inositol, ginkgo biloba, methionine, germanium sesquioxide, boron,

vanadium, nickel

Serving size: 3 capsules

Other ingredients: gelatin

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Marti,

 

Speaking of impressed, I wasn't to impressed with your critique of

E.M. Power either.

 

I am not familiar with the making of this product but have hearrd

very good things about it.

 

I have to guess what you are not impressed about. I assume that you

mean the size of the individual ingredients are in your opinion too

small to be a big deal.

 

There is more to vitamins than just size of dose. All vitamin pills

are not equal.

 

The more balanced to each other they are, the more effective they are

to work synergistically. So size of dose to each other in formula can

be important for some ingredients.

 

The quality of the ingredients are also very important. Raw

ingredients to make a vitamin pill can be costly or cheap depending

on the quality of the ingredients. It can make a big difference in

effectiveness. Better ingredients can be more effective in a smaller

dose than some larger cheap ones sometimes.

 

Here are a few other things that make vitamins differ from each other

because of choice in quality of ingredients.

 

Nutrients do no good if you don't absorb them. Some forms of

nutrients are more easily absorbed than others.

 

which forms of vitamins used will determine bioavailability. It is

the amount of a nutrient ingested that is absorbed and thus available

to the body for metabolic use. No matter how high the nutrient levels

are of food or supplements, if they are not biologically available

and/or your digestion is insufficient then much of the nutrition you

take-in will not be utilized.

 

Some manufacturers try and use natural forms when possible and others

use synthetic forms. Others try and use actual foods such as some

pwdered formulas.

 

So, just comparing labels to size of each ingredient is only one

measure of comparison even if it is the only stanfardized one it can

still be misleading to which brand is better for you.

 

I personally take a powdered brand that isn't that impressive on the

label either but it is the one that works best for me and I suspect

that it is because that probably the ingredients are better and put

together more correctly in the proper ratios etc.

 

regards,

 

Frank

 

 

, MarthaRolfe@a...

wrote:

> Dear List,

>

> I was reading with interest about the product E M Power which is

meant to

> help with bipolar and other mental disorders. However, can I just

ask people

> whether they feel a little skeptical after reading the list of

ingredients

> below? With the exception of B9, Vitamin H, and whatever the

proprietary blend

> is, they minerals are just not much to get excited about. Any

comments?

>

> Marti

>

>

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.truehope.com/empOrder.asp " >How to order</A>

>

>

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.truehope.com/empSafety.asp " >Product safety</A>

>

> Empowerplus capsules, made of the highest quality ingredients, is a

> scientifically proven alternative mental illness treatment

>

>

> Nutrient  Amount Per Serving

> Vitamin A 960 IU

> Vitamin C 100 mg

> Vitamin D 240 IU

> Vitamin E   60 IU

> Vitamin B1 3 mg

> Vitamin B2 2.25 mg

> Vitamin B3 15 mg

> Vitamin B5 3.6 mg

> Vitamin B6 6 mg

> Vitamin B9 240 mcg

> Vitamin B12 150 mcg

> Vitamin H 180 mcg

> Calcium  220 mg

> Phosphorous  140 mg

> Magnesium  100 mg

> Potassium  40 mg

> Iodine 34 mcg

> Zinc  8 mg

> Selenium  34 mcg

> Copper  1.2 mg

> Manganese  1.6 mg

> Chromium  104 mcg

> Molybdenum  24 mcg

> Iron  2.29 mg

> CNS PROPRIETARY BLEND  277 mg 

> dl-phenylalanine, glutamine, citrus bioflavanoids, grape seed,

choline

> bitartrate, inositol, ginkgo biloba, methionine, germanium

sesquioxide, boron,

> vanadium, nickel

> Serving size: 3 capsules

> Other ingredients: gelatin

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marti,

 

The vitamins that I take are called Allone and it is is a powdered

form that I add to milk, juice, or foods. Quite a few of the

nutrients are in a " food " form for easy absorption. I then take quite

a few other things that I feel that I need but it does not provide.

 

Trying to find a way to supplement my vitamin/nutrient needs is a

continuing process of self education. I have never found a mutiple

that has everything that I would consider important.

 

The difference between a poor multiple and a good one can be like

night and day though and the person can usually feel the difference

in/with their body. That is unless the person is very sick or damaged

and then it may be difficult.

 

Another thing is that some multiple vitamins will work for one and

not another is because we are all biologically unique. I may require

10 times more of a certain nutrient than you do or vice versa and if

the multi that I take has that particular nutrient in suffecient

quantities, then I may love that brand while you may find it less

desirable as it may be low in something that you have a higher

requirement for.

 

In most cases there is no brand of vitamins that will give all the

nutrients that that particular person needs. Most everyone will have

to supplement their multi with additional supplements to their own

individual needs.

 

The only solution is through education of the person on each

individual vitamins and education on the biochemical process of what

goes on in the body and a trial and error method of ascertaining what

each person's needs are. It is a learning process just as much as

anything to attain health with nutrients.

 

If anyone wants to learn about these areas, I suggest that you read,

 

Biochemical Individuality, by Roger J. Williams Phd. and...

 

The Wonderful World Within You, by Roger J. Williams Phd.

 

The author is one of the noted scientists and authorities on

nutrients and biochemical uniqueness.

 

regards,

 

Frank

 

 

 

, MarthaRolfe@a...

wrote:

>

> In a message dated 11/7/03 1:37:33 AM, califpacific writes:

>

>

> > Dear Marti,

> >

> > Speaking of impressed, I wasn't to impressed with your critique of

> > E.M. Power either.

> >

> I wasn't critiquing it, Frank, and I'm not trying to impress

anybody. I

> listed the ingredients from the site and asked for comments from

people.

> >

> > I am not familiar with the making of this product but have hearrd

> > very good things about it.

> >

>

> I've " heard " on the internet many comments both good and bad.

Some were

> VERY bad. I asked on this list because I am somewhat familiar

with the people

> who post here and felt more comfortable with their views.

> >

> > I have to guess what you are not impressed about. I assume that

you

> > mean the size of the individual ingredients are in your opinion

too

> > small to be a big deal.

> >

> > There is more to vitamins than just size of dose. All vitamin

pills

> > are not equal.

> >

> > The more balanced to each other they are, the more effective they

are

> > to work synergistically. So size of dose to each other in formula

can

> > be important for some ingredients.

> >

> True, but then there are differing opinions on what the balance

ought to be.

> >

> > The quality of the ingredients are also very important. Raw

> > ingredients to make a vitamin pill can be costly or cheap

depending

> > on the quality of the ingredients. It can make a big difference in

> > effectiveness. Better ingredients can be more effective in a

smaller

> > dose than some larger cheap ones sometimes.

> >

> How does one determine what are the better sources? I'd be very

grateful

> for help on that one.

> >

> > Here are a few other things that make vitamins differ from each

other

> > because of choice in quality of ingredients.

> >

> > Nutrients do no good if you don't absorb them. Some forms of

> > nutrients are more easily absorbed than others.

> >

>

> Yes, the co-enzyme ones I am familiar with. Some people

prefer " food "

> vitamins that are grown on a culture, but I don't trust those for

my little boy.

> I use the wateroz minerals because they are supposed to be very

absorbable.

> Fulvic acid mixes are a possibility but I'm always concerned about

the

> chlorine from bath water -- however, I often wonder about the

fulvic acid addition

> in Neways and other vitamins. Perhaps it is useful. Is there

anything else

> that you can think of that makes something more absorbable?

> >

> >

> > Some manufacturers try and use natural forms when possible and

others

> > use synthetic forms. Others try and use actual foods such as some

> > pwdered formulas.

> >

> Which powdered formulas are you thinking of? I assume you are not

talking

> just about capsules. I know of Juice plus, for example, but are

there are

> formulations you think are good?

> >

> > So, just comparing labels to size of each ingredient is only one

> > measure of comparison even if it is the only stanfardized one it

can

> > still be misleading to which brand is better for you.

> >

> > I personally take a powdered brand that isn't that impressive on

the

> > label either but it is the one that works best for me and I

suspect

> > that it is because that probably the ingredients are better and

put

> > together more correctly in the proper ratios etc.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Frank

> >

>

>

>

>