Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 I'm a 26 year old male who took the drug Accutane 8 years ago for a period of 2 years. As a result of taking this drug, I have developed various autoimmune conditions such as finger joint arthritis, Raynaud's phenomenon, fibromyalgia, joint pain and clicking and tendinitis. Is anyone able to suggest anything that might be able to help any of these conditions? Thanks, James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Dear James, I would suggest that you start with you diet, ensuring you have eliminated all trans-fats, sugar, grains (unless properly soaked) and all processed foods. A traditional diet of high " good sources of protein " and " good fats " (saturated fats) with veggies. Good fats are a very important. For details of a traditional diet check out: www.westonaprice.org or www.mercola. com. I hope that helps. Bee , " melsiffacolyte " <bigbench32@h...> wrote: > I'm a 26 year old male who took the drug Accutane 8 years ago for a > period of 2 years. > As a result of taking this drug, I have developed various autoimmune > conditions such as finger joint arthritis, Raynaud's phenomenon, > fibromyalgia, joint pain and clicking and tendinitis. > Is anyone able to suggest anything that might be able to help any of > these conditions? > Thanks, > James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Dittos to what Bee suggested. Good fats are very important. Vitamin A is fat-soluble, and Accutane is anti-vitamin-A, so it sounds like you ought to replenish with good fats and foods that are natural sources of real, preformed vitamin A. Butter and cod liver oil are good sources of vitamin A. Free range eggs with dark yellow or orange yolks are good, too. Pesticides are particularly efficient at depleting vitamin A, so try to avoid them. (Got West Nile Virus anywhere nearby? Avoid the sprays and sprayed areas. Many of the symptoms of West Nile Virus are the same as from exposure to pesticides.) Don't be afraid of using essential fats. Do be afraid of using industrially processed fats and oils. Cut down on or eliminate refined grains and sugars in your diet. Use organic produce whenever possible, to avoid exposure to pesticides. Laura , " Bee " <beewilder@s...> wrote: > Dear James, > > I would suggest that you start with you diet, ensuring you have > eliminated all trans-fats, sugar, grains (unless properly soaked) and > all processed foods. A traditional diet of high " good sources of > protein " and " good fats " (saturated fats) with veggies. Good fats > are a very important. For details of a traditional diet check out: > www.westonaprice.org or www.mercola. com. > > I hope that helps. > Bee > , " melsiffacolyte " > <bigbench32@h...> wrote: > > I'm a 26 year old male who took the drug Accutane 8 years ago for a > > period of 2 years. > > As a result of taking this drug, I have developed various > autoimmune > > conditions such as finger joint arthritis, Raynaud's phenomenon, > > fibromyalgia, joint pain and clicking and tendinitis. > > Is anyone able to suggest anything that might be able to help any > of > > these conditions? > > Thanks, > > James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Thanks for your replies. Accutane is actually a very powerful synthetic form of retinoic acid. I probably have enough vitamin A stored in my liver for the next decade or more. I think I really should be avoiding all vitamin A in my diet from now on. In fact, I've been doing this since January of this year and my symptoms have improved a lot. On the rare occasions I have eaten vitamin A, my symptoms get worse. I just wanted to know what else I should be doing or taking to help with the symptoms I currently have. Should I be taking vitamin E? Mixed tocopherols or tocotrienols or both? Anything else? Thanks, James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 , " melsiffacolyte " <bigbench32@h...> wrote: > I'm a 26 year old male who took the drug Accutane 8 years ago for a > period of 2 years. > As a result of taking this drug, I have developed various autoimmune > conditions such as finger joint arthritis, Raynaud's phenomenon, > fibromyalgia, joint pain and clicking and tendinitis. > Is anyone able to suggest anything that might be able to help any of these conditions? > Thanks, James. James, For Raynauds it is essential to eat a diet of at least 50% organic raw foods in addition to taking some sort of essential fatty acid supplementation...either flaxseeds, primrose oil or salmon oil would be fine although my first recommendation would be Udo's oil. This one is the best for correcting fatty acid deficiencies so common in our standard american diets. www.udoerasmus.com. It is good to eliminate processed refined foods with refined/hydrogenated oils, replacing them with more natural organic brands from your local farmers market or whole foods store. In addition to this a green juice drink (I prefer Barleygreen) helps to restore circulation and flush out any existing impurities and free radical buildup from the drugs. In addition to this, try using selenium (200 mcg), zinc (50 mg), and CO-Q10. Selenium and zinc are both wonderful for detox and Co Q10 will restore the collagen in your arteries. Then again it is important to get enough magnesium oxide as well. When there is an abundance of calcium with our diets, due to the fact they are so lacking in magnesium, this tends to constrict the arteries contributing to the problem as well. Magnesium is essential for circulation with at least 800-1200 to be taken each day in divided doses for this. magnesium is a natural muscle relaxer, which is quite helpful for this condition. Avoid caffeine, refined sugars and nicotine and fatty fried foods high in the harmful acrylamides. Wishing you the best. For more tips on controlling Arthritis symptoms, please visit the Alternative Forum message board below. http://alternative-medicine-message-boards.info/ Cheers, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 , " melsiffacolyte " <bigbench32@h...> wrote: > I'm a 26 year old male who took the drug Accutane 8 years ago for a > period of 2 years. > As a result of taking this drug, I have developed various autoimmune > conditions such as finger joint arthritis, Raynaud's phenomenon, > fibromyalgia, joint pain and clicking and tendinitis. > Is anyone able to suggest anything that might be able to help any of these conditions? > Thanks, James. Arthritis Cure www.notmilk.com A new study published in the February, 2003 issue of Annals of Rheumatic Diseases confirms that those people eating a diet high in fruits, vegetables, legumes, and certain oils also known as the " Mediterranean diet " helps ease symptoms in people with rheumatoid arthritis. This study was performed on non-vegetarians living in Sweden. The authors obtained dramatic results by placing 26 subjects on a dairy-free diet for three months, while 25 people continued to eat a typical Swedish smorgasbord of meat and dairy products. According to Dr. Lars Skoldstam: " The current results suggest that patients with rheumatoid arthritis can obtain better physical function and increase their vitality from eating a Mediterranean diet for three months. " The results of this current study come as no surprise. In 1985, the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine (volume 78) reported the case of an eight-year-old girl with severe rheumatoid arthritis: " ...juvenile rheumatoid arthritis was a milk allergy. After avoiding dairy products, all pain was gone in three weeks. " In 1991, the British journal Lancet (Volume 338) published the results of a study in which the subjects ate a vegetarian diet: " Controlled trial of fasting and a one-year vegetarian diet eased symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis. " The British Journal of Rheumatology (36;1, 1997) reported: " ...43 patients with rheumatoid arthritis, those assigned to a vegan diet...had improvement in rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. " Rheumatoid arthritis is a painful condition, and it is tragic that many physicians let their patients know that there is no cure. Ignorance is the most horrible of diseases, and keeps arthritis sufferers from the simple relief of their pain: a NotMilk diet. www.notmilk.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Thanks for your replies. JoAnn, I didn't know that COQ10 could help to restore the elasticity in the arteries. Do you have a reference I can read about this? In relation to the magnesium, I've read numerous times that the oxide form of magnesium is the least absorbable form. I've read that the most absorbable forms of mg are glycinate and taurate. Unfortunately, I'm unable to eat a wide variety of fruits and vegies since most of these are too high in vit A and my body reacts very badly to vit A due to vitA toxicity from the accutane. A lot of the good oils like flaxseed oil, fish oils and Udo's Choice oil are also loaded with vit A. Does anyone know of any good oils (apart from olive oil) that don't contain vitamin A? Also, is it true that vitamin E can block the actions of vitamin A in the body? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 , " melsiffacolyte " <bigbench32@h...> wrote: > Thanks for your replies. > JoAnn, I didn't know that COQ10 could help to restore the elasticity in the arteries. Do you have a reference I can read about this? > In relation to the magnesium, I've read numerous times that the oxide form of magnesium is the least absorbable form. I've read that the most absorbable forms of mg are glycinate and taurate. > Unfortunately, I'm unable to eat a wide variety of fruits and vegies since most of these are too high in vit A and my body reacts very badly to vit A due to vitA toxicity from the accutane. > A lot of the good oils like flaxseed oil, fish oils and Udo's Choice oil are also loaded with vit A. > Does anyone know of any good oils (apart from olive oil) that don't contain vitamin A? > Also, is it true that vitamin E can block the actions of vitamin A in the body? > Thanks. Yes I do have some references on CO-Q10. I will send them on for you a little later. As for the magnesium, it just depends. If you're using it for your arteries ( one of Raynaud's symptoms is constriction of the arteries) you should use the oxide form! Magnesium oxide increases flow of oxygen to and from the heart and keeps calcium from taking over. Calcium constricts the arteries if there is a magnesium deficiency. I have several references to that effect! For fibro however, magnesium maleate is best. Not sure if fibro was a part of your problem or not,. Try eating celery, asparagus, cauliflower, kale and bananas. They are more alkaline in nature, contain more of the beneficial FOS and are rich in trace minerals. Lightly steam the asparagus. Sesame oil, macademia nut oil, grapeseed oil, and wheat germ oil would be better than fish oil. All of these oils are very healing Also, try to obtain unrefined cold pressed oils from the health food stores. Olive oil is also good. Just get the extra virgin. Any other is low quality (compromised)and a waste of money. I know that vitamin E works well with selenium for detox. As for blocking vitamin A, I would have to look that one up. All the Best, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 ---James, The only Vitamin A that Udo's oil Blend contains is minimal amounts of Beta carotene. The type of vitamin A prescribed to treat severe forms of acne is a synthetic form of A called " cis-retinoic " acid. This was developed so that the vitamin could be administered in very high oral doses—-200,000 to 300,000 IU's, without the level of toxicity that might occur if other active forms of vitamin A were used. Although this treatment is quite successful, there are toxicity problems even with this form of the vitamin. Beta carotene however is non-toxic! I must point out that beta carotene works even for patients with severe acne. When using beta-carotene, we have had excellent results without ever exceeding 100,000 IU's per day. Studies show that topical applications of the antioxidants including beta carotene can diminish free radical tissue damage as well. Udo's oils do not contain excessive amounts of vitamin A. The primary constituents come from a combination of ingredients that are actually high in Vitamin E content. Udo's Choice (Certified Organic) Perfected 3, 6, 9 Oil Blend Ingredients: Organic flaxseed oil; organic sunflower seed oil; organic sesame seed oil; rice and oat germ oils; medium chain triglycerides (MCTs); organic evening primrose oil;preformed GLA lecithin (guaranteed GMO-free); vitamin E; antioxidants (tocotrienols); and rosemary oil. This is a fine combination of oils which is fabulous for healing most anything, arthritis and Raynaud's as well.Illness is basically caused by an imbalance of n-3s and n-6s which can usually be traced to the Standard American diet of processed, refined devitalized foods. Udo has sourced out these natural components in order to provide just the right balance of n-3s, n-6s and n-9s for healing. Arthritis responds well to essential fatty acid supplementation, although in my opinion, it would take more than just the n-3s in fish or flax oil to do the job well. Cheers, JoAnn In , " melsiffacolyte " <bigbench32@h...> wrote: Thanks for your replies. JoAnn, I didn't know that COQ10 could help to restore the elasticity in the arteries. Do you have a reference I can read about this? In relation to the magnesium, I've read numerous times that the oxide form of magnesium is the least absorbable form. I've read that the most absorbable forms of mg are glycinate and taurate. Unfortunately, I'm unable to eat a wide variety of fruits and veggies since most of these are too high in vita A and my body reacts very badly to vit A due to vit A toxicity from the Accutane. A lot of the good oils like flaxseed oil, fish oils and Udo's Choice oil are also loaded with vit A. Does anyone know of any good oils (apart from olive oil) that don't contain vitamin A? Also, is it true that vitamin E can block the actions of vitamin A in the body? Thanks. > Thanks for your replies. > JoAnn, I didn't know that COQ10 could help to restore the elasticity > in the arteries. Do you have a reference I can read about this? > In relation to the magnesium, I've read numerous times that the oxide > form of magnesium is the least absorbable form. I've read that the > most absorbable forms of mg are glycinate and taurate. > Unfortunately, I'm unable to eat a wide variety of fruits and vegies > since most of these are too high in vit A and my body reacts very > badly to vit A due to vitA toxicity from the accutane. > A lot of the good oils like flaxseed oil, fish oils and Udo's Choice > oil are also loaded with vit A. > Does anyone know of any good oils (apart from olive oil) that don't > contain vitamin A? > Also, is it true that vitamin E can block the actions of vitamin A in > the body? > Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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