Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 IS ASCORBIC ACID GOOD FOR YOU? http://www.juiceguy.com/ascorbic%20acid.shtml For a variety of financial and political reasons, ascorbic acid has been deemed " vitamin C. " But actually, ascorbic acid is only the antioxidant factor of a nutritional complex that contains a myriad of nutrients all rolled up into one big ball that we call the Vitamin C Complex. This nutritional complex is the real vitamin C because it is exactly as found in nature. Ascorbic acid is never found isolated in nature and serves only to protect the whole Vitamin C Complex from degradation. It is much like a preservative in processed foods, providing them with a longer shelf life. The schematic below of the whole Vitamin C Complex and its ascorbic acid fraction will help make this clear. ASCORBIC ACID ASCORBIGEN BIOFLAVONOID COMPLEXES TYROSINASE (ORGANIC COPPER P FACTORS J FACTORS K FACTORS ASCORBIC ACID The Functional Architecture of Vitamin C Complex Since ascorbic acid is such a tiny portion of the natural Vitamin C Complex. any ascorbic acid product cannot possibly be natural. The reason is simple-to get sufficient quantities of ascorbic acid from nature, the other portions of the whole Vitamin C Complex would be so large as to make a single 500 mg " natural " ascorbic acid pill the size of a tennis ball. Since there is no " natural " ascorbic acid, it is the combination of nutritive factors found in the whole Vitamin C Complex that do the healing, not the ascorbic acid. This was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the Nobel Prize winner and discoverer of ascorbic acid, Dr. Szent-Gyorgyi. In a letter to the editor of the esteemed journal Nature, July 14, 1936, p. 27, he wrote that when it comes to anti-scurvy and anti-hemorrhagic effects, there are " other substances of similar importance and activity that accompany ascorbic acid. " More important, when Szent-Gyorgyi tried to cure scurvy and other bleeding conditions, he found that " with pure ascorbic acid, we obtained no response.... Yet when red pepper or lemon or lime juice was used, the condition was readily cured. " The reason for this is simple, the nutritive portions of vitamin C do the curing and healing, ascorbic acid _simply performs the antioxidant function. So we have it from the horses mouth that ascorbic acid was not effective in curing the very conditions known to be vitamin C- deficiency diseases. This has been known since the early 1930s. But it is simple to reproduce ascorbic acid and sell it as vitamin C for big bucks. So the charade has continued all these years. The real need for ascorbic acid is to protect the healing nutrients in the whole Vitamin C Complex from oxidation. What About the Vitamin C Diseases? The integrity of blood vessels is dependent upon vitamin C and its natural bioflavonoid and organic copper components. People taking super doses of ascorbic acid still have pink toothbrush, still have brown skin on their legs from capillary fragility, and still suffer from arteriosclerosis subclinical scurvy, and other blood vessel problems because they aren't getting enough whole Vitamin C Complex. A whole-food extract of vitamin C-rich foods will resolve these problems where ascorbic acid tablets routinely fail. Are these conditions common? In older folks they are becoming the routine. Clogged arteries, inflamed arteries, aneurysms, skin covered with patches of leaked blood that turns brown, bleeding gums and loose teeth, gum disease, bone problems including osteoporosis, and more are all symptoms of vitamin C deficiency. And they are universal- despite the fact that almost everyone takes enough ascorbic to sink a battleship. But what about the antioxidant activity of ascorbic acid? The new super-role of antioxidants is being hyped to the public to sell chemicals labeled as vitamins. These are supposed to protect you from free radicals and serve as anti-aging products. Most people's cells are actually starved for oxygen. Huge doses of chemical antioxidants can make these conditions worse. We have people who can't take a deep breath. Those who are constantly in a fog. And more that can't walk a block without fainting. Antioxidants (chemical Vitamin E, ascorbic acid, etc) taken to excess can make these conditions worse. The whole Vitamin C Complex improves oxygen assimilation in the blood This relieves the heart and all the other blood cells that constantly need oxygenation. It Can't Hurt-Or Can It? Any substance that actively promotes disease in the human body cannot be considered a vitamin. Therefore, ascorbic acid is not a vitamin. Here are just a few things we have found associated with excessive ascorbic acid intake: 1. Ascorbic acid pills can speed up the process of hardening of the arteries. This was published in an Associated Press release (3-3- 2000) from an epidemiological study presented at the American Heart Association. 2. Cancer thrives on glucose and ascorbic acid. Studies from the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center showed that tumors do better in a high ascorbic acid environment.. 3. Ascorbic acid is excreted via the kidneys in 24 hours. (European Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1990 June;44(6):447-60). 4. Five hundred mgs. of ascorbic acid daily can damage genetic material (DNA). (New York Times, April 8, 1998-quoting the journal Nature of the same month). So, we have ascorbic acid antioxidant pills made for pennies and sold to the public in megadoses for big bucks that do not cure scurvy or its subclinical forms now afflicting legions of Americans. It can speed up the process of clogged arteries. Cancer thrives on it, and it protects tumors. Most of it is wasted and excreted via the kidneys. And it can cause oxidative genetic damage to your DNA. It can't hurt?! Once again we are faced with the old adage that truth is indeed timeless. From the early 1920s and into the '30s when the discoverer expressed the failure of ascorbic acid to cure scurvy, right up to today when study after study shows that ascorbic acid is not the panacea we are taught to believe, we learn the same lesson. When you extract one component of food and give it at very high doses, you just don't know what you are doing to the system, and it may be adverse. As for " natural " forms of ascorbic acid, there are none. Linus Pauling, the biggest proponent of ascorbic acid intake, cleared that up when he said, " Ascorbic acid is made from glucose (corn sugar) boiled with sulfuric acid. What is called rose hips (natural) vitamin C is the same pure crystalline ascorbic acid with a bunch of rose hips powder added. The " natural " ascorbic acid is out of the same barrel from Hoffman-LaRoche as the others, but with a pinch of rose hips powder. " What Real Vitamin C Will Do When you look at the schematic of the whole Vitamin C Complex, you see that the bioflavonoid complexes, enzymes and organic copper, and the other nutritional factors like P, J, and K make up the bulk of vitamin C. The ascorbic acid (C6H8 806) is the protective wrapper. When the whole vitamin C complex is fed to the body, things really happen. Blood vessels begin to strengthen. Collagen is more readily produced. Bones take up calcium and other minerals properly. Capillaries firm up and bleeding stops. Gums stop bleeding, teeth tighten, and the oxygenation of the cells becomes more efficient. This in turn allows for better circulation to the heart, more oxygenation of the blood, and resultant better heart function. All these changes, including a natural immune system enhancement, can be measured on lab and other tests. These tests will show nothing of the kind with the same consumption of ascorbic acid alone. In reality, the whole Vitamin C Complex is concentrated food. Prime sources of organic foods condensed into vitamin C supplements are buck wheat, alfalfa, mushrooms, raw bone, carrots, rice bran, raw adrenal, yeast, and more. These make up the raw ingredients of whole Vitamin C Complex supplements like Cataplex C, AC, and ACP from Standard Process. Next month, I will show you a chromatograph of the actual architecture of the real vitamin C complex vs. ascorbic acid. It is an eye-opener to say the least. In September, 2002, I visited the organic farms owned and operated by Standard Process in Wisconsin. They are virtually the only company left to produce pills from organicallygrown plants in this magnificent fashion. The proof of the real thing will be easy for you to see. When presented with a single pill, subjecting it to the chromatograph machine to make a nutritional image of its contents, the farm' manager could tell me the exact date the product was made and which field the produce came from! That is a far cry from ascorbic acid. HEALTH ALERT 5 Harris Court, N6, Monterey CA 93940-5763, 831-372- 2103 Subscription $39 per year and well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 You are doing a diservice to post this type of information. It is mixed with fact and fiction. Your implication that ascorbic acid has no value is absolutely wrong and why you are doing this is a good question to think about. Is the vitamin C complex better for use in a lot of cases. Yes. Is it always possible to use the complex. No. Does that mean that ascorbates have no value, Of course not. That is rubbish and anyone who considers himself a health guru would hopefully know better. Either post things that will help and not try and mix misinformation with information ( which seems to be the pattern to your posts) or you will be removed or not allowed to post. The article that you posted here sounds all scientific etc. , but it is written by the juice guy??? To sell juicers?? Whoever wrote it didn't know much about real scientific studies concerning vitamin C or the ascorbates, but has pulled pieces from here aand there to make a false point. Frank , " healthgurus " <healthgurus> wrote: > IS ASCORBIC ACID GOOD FOR YOU? > http://www.juiceguy.com/ascorbic%20acid.shtml > > For a variety of financial and political reasons, ascorbic acid has > been deemed " vitamin C. " > > But actually, ascorbic acid is only the antioxidant factor of a > nutritional complex that contains a myriad of nutrients all rolled > up into one big ball that we call the Vitamin C Complex. > > This nutritional complex is the real vitamin C because it is exactly > as found in nature. Ascorbic acid is never found isolated in nature > and serves only to protect the whole Vitamin C Complex from > degradation. It is much like a preservative in processed foods, > providing them with a longer shelf life. The schematic below of the > whole Vitamin C Complex and its ascorbic acid fraction will help > make this clear. > > ASCORBIC ACID > > > ASCORBIGEN > BIOFLAVONOID > > COMPLEXES > > TYROSINASE > (ORGANIC COPPER > > > > P FACTORS > J FACTORS > > K FACTORS > > > > ASCORBIC ACID > > The Functional Architecture > of Vitamin C Complex > > Since ascorbic acid is such a tiny portion of the natural Vitamin C > Complex. any ascorbic acid product cannot possibly be natural. The > reason is simple-to get sufficient quantities of ascorbic acid from > nature, the other portions of the whole Vitamin C Complex would be > so large as to make a single 500 mg " natural " ascorbic acid pill the > size of a tennis ball. > > Since there is no " natural " ascorbic acid, it is the combination of > nutritive factors found in the whole Vitamin C Complex that do the > healing, not the ascorbic acid. > > This was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the Nobel Prize winner > and discoverer of ascorbic acid, Dr. Szent-Gyorgyi. In a letter to > the editor of the esteemed journal Nature, July 14, 1936, p. 27, he > wrote that when it comes to anti-scurvy and anti-hemorrhagic > effects, there are " other substances of similar importance and > activity that accompany ascorbic acid. " > > More important, when Szent-Gyorgyi tried to cure scurvy and other > bleeding conditions, he found that " with pure ascorbic acid, we > obtained no response.... > > Yet when red pepper or lemon or lime juice was used, the condition > was readily cured. " > > The reason for this is simple, the nutritive portions of vitamin C > do the curing and healing, ascorbic acid _simply performs the > antioxidant function. > > So we have it from the horses mouth that ascorbic acid was not > effective in curing the very conditions known to be vitamin C- > deficiency diseases. > > This has been known since the early 1930s. > > But it is simple to reproduce ascorbic acid and sell it as vitamin > C for big bucks. > > So the charade has continued all these years. The real need for > ascorbic acid is to protect the healing nutrients in the whole > Vitamin C Complex from oxidation. > > What About the Vitamin C Diseases? > > The integrity of blood vessels is dependent upon vitamin C and its > natural bioflavonoid and organic copper components. > > People taking super doses of ascorbic acid still have pink > toothbrush, still have brown skin on their legs from capillary > fragility, and still suffer from arteriosclerosis subclinical > scurvy, and other blood vessel problems because they aren't getting > enough whole Vitamin C Complex. > > A whole-food extract of vitamin C-rich foods will resolve these > problems where ascorbic acid tablets routinely fail. > > Are these conditions common? In older folks they are becoming the > routine. > Clogged arteries, inflamed arteries, aneurysms, skin covered with > patches of leaked blood that turns brown, bleeding gums and loose > teeth, gum disease, bone problems including osteoporosis, and more > are all symptoms of vitamin C deficiency. And they are universal- > despite the fact that almost everyone takes enough ascorbic to sink > a battleship. > > But what about the antioxidant activity of ascorbic acid? The new > super-role of antioxidants is being hyped to the public to sell > chemicals labeled as vitamins. > These are supposed to protect you from free radicals and serve as > anti-aging products. > Most people's cells are actually starved for oxygen. Huge doses of > chemical antioxidants can make these conditions worse. > > We have people who can't take a deep breath. Those who are > constantly in a fog. And more that can't walk a block without > fainting. > > Antioxidants (chemical Vitamin E, ascorbic acid, etc) taken to > excess can make these conditions worse. The whole Vitamin C Complex > improves oxygen assimilation in the blood > This relieves the heart and all the other blood cells that > constantly need oxygenation. > > > It Can't Hurt-Or Can It? > > Any substance that actively promotes disease in the human body > cannot be considered a vitamin. Therefore, ascorbic acid is not a > vitamin. > > Here are just a few things we have found associated with excessive > ascorbic acid intake: > > 1. Ascorbic acid pills can speed up the process of hardening of the > arteries. This was published in an Associated Press release (3-3- > 2000) from an epidemiological study presented at the American Heart > Association. > > 2. Cancer thrives on glucose and ascorbic acid. Studies from the > Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center showed that tumors do better > in a high ascorbic acid environment.. > > 3. Ascorbic acid is excreted via the kidneys in 24 hours. (European > Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1990 June;44(6):447-60). > > 4. Five hundred mgs. of ascorbic acid daily can damage genetic > material (DNA). (New York Times, April 8, 1998-quoting the journal > Nature of the same month). > > So, we have ascorbic acid antioxidant pills made for pennies and > sold to the public in megadoses for big bucks that do not cure > scurvy or its subclinical forms now afflicting legions of Americans. > It can speed up the process of clogged arteries. Cancer thrives on > it, and it protects tumors. Most of it is wasted and excreted via > the kidneys. And it can cause oxidative genetic damage to your DNA. > It can't hurt?! > > Once again we are faced with the old adage that truth is indeed > timeless. From the early 1920s and into the '30s when the discoverer > expressed the failure of ascorbic acid to cure scurvy, right up to > today when study after study shows that ascorbic acid is not the > panacea we are taught to believe, we learn the same lesson. When you > extract one component of food and give it at very high doses, you > just don't know what you are doing to the system, and it may be > adverse. > > As for " natural " forms of ascorbic acid, there are none. Linus > Pauling, the biggest proponent of ascorbic acid intake, cleared that > up when he said, " Ascorbic acid is made from glucose (corn sugar) > boiled with sulfuric acid. What is called rose hips (natural) > vitamin C is the same pure crystalline ascorbic acid with a bunch of > rose hips powder added. The " natural " ascorbic acid is out of the > same barrel from Hoffman-LaRoche as the others, but with a pinch of > rose hips powder. " > > What Real Vitamin C Will Do > > When you look at the schematic of the whole Vitamin C Complex, you > see that the bioflavonoid complexes, enzymes and organic copper, and > the other nutritional factors like P, J, and K make up the bulk of > vitamin C. The ascorbic acid (C6H8 806) is the protective wrapper. > When the whole vitamin C complex is fed to the body, things really > happen. > > Blood vessels begin to strengthen. Collagen is more readily > produced. Bones take up calcium and other minerals properly. > Capillaries firm up and bleeding stops. Gums stop bleeding, teeth > tighten, and the oxygenation of the cells becomes more efficient. > This in turn allows for better circulation to the heart, more > oxygenation of the blood, and resultant better heart function. All > these changes, including a natural immune system enhancement, can be > measured on lab and other tests. These tests will show nothing of > the kind with the same consumption of ascorbic acid alone. > > In reality, the whole Vitamin C Complex is concentrated food. Prime > sources of organic foods condensed into vitamin C supplements are > buck wheat, alfalfa, mushrooms, raw bone, carrots, rice bran, raw > adrenal, yeast, and more. These make up the raw ingredients of whole > Vitamin C Complex supplements like Cataplex C, AC, and ACP from > Standard Process. > > Next month, I will show you a chromatograph of the actual > architecture of the real vitamin C complex vs. ascorbic acid. It is > an eye-opener to say the least. In September, 2002, I visited the > organic farms owned and operated by Standard Process in Wisconsin. > They are virtually the only company left to produce pills from > organicallygrown plants in this magnificent fashion. The proof of > the real thing will be easy for you to see. When presented with a > single pill, subjecting it to the chromatograph machine to make a > nutritional image of its contents, the farm' manager could tell me > the exact date the product was made and which field the produce came > from! > > That is a far cry from ascorbic acid. > > HEALTH ALERT 5 Harris Court, N6, Monterey CA 93940-5763, 831-372- > 2103 > Subscription $39 per year and well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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