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Hi Roseanne,

First, I totally sympathize on this--my daughter once went to a school where

lice were nearly epidemic during the first part

of each school year. So, I've been thru this a time or 20 ~grins~ Hope I can

help a little.

 

It's my understanding that lice can lay eggs on inanimate things such as

pillows, some toys (cloth or fur), clothing, etc,

for about a week, and live up to a week afterward. We always collected anything

that wouldn't stand a good long hot water

washing, bagged it and put it up for 14 days (which will also get you thru the

treatment time for the children and everyone

else). That way we didn't have to toss my kid's treasures. We also did the

same at a nursing home I worked at, where we had

a scabies problem (not the same critter, but somewhat related and many of the

same things must be done to eradicate both).

HTH and good luck to your sister in law and nieces,

Serra

 

 

 

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> Both my nieces, ages 8 and 5, were sent home, for the second time, from

> school this week for having lice. My question is, can lice live for an

> extended period of time on inanimate objects such as toys, dolls, etc?

> My sister-in-law thinks they can and proceeded to throw out most of my

> nieces' toys. I may be wrong, but I thought this was a bit drastic. So

> before I open my mouth, can anyone tell me if that is part of the

> protocol when dealing with lice?

> Thanks.

>

> Rosanne

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Ohh.. those are masty little buggers. No, you do not need to throw everything

out, but it is so frusterating, many do.

 

Lice can live a couple of weeks without a host (cute little kid head). So, have

her wash everything in hot soapy water. Once dryed, bag it for a couple of

weeks. Anything that cannot be washed should also be bagged, but not in the

same closet as the washed stuff. This helps in the transfer issues.

 

My daughters have had it and I bagged everything. We looked like we were

moving ut of our house.. LOL But it never came back..

Lana

 

 

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Yes, lice can survive in bedding, toys, hairbrushes, hats etc. etc.

Fumigate, wash, and put into a plastic bag for a few month.

A good habit is to use vinegar as a rinse after shampooing, keeps lice

at bay.

C-M

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Treatment for head lice as follows: all pillows, blankets and sheets need to be

put in dryer for 20 minutes each day after use. All clothes need to be picked

up, put in plastic bag till washed and dried. All stuffed toys should be put in

plastic bag tied closed for 1 month. You can save a favorite that the child

sleeps with but it must go in the dryer with the bedding each day. Vacume the

mattress daily. This is what we do for the hair brushes....I soak them after

each use in a cup filled with water that has 4 drops of peppermint oil. What I

have done is washed my girls hair with head and shoulders shampoo just cuz its a

medicated shampoo. Then rinse with vingar. Then I have a cup handy that is

filled with water and 3-4 drops of peppermint oil. As I pick thru thier hair

wet the comb with the peppermint water. The lice does not like the vingar and

the peppermint essential oil. I have long ago used the over the counter stuff

but really all you need to do is the following and

it should keep them at bay. As long as there are no eggs or in thier hair they

should go away. I also add 2-3 drops peppermint to our shampoo during this time

to keep reinfestation down.

 

 

Herbal hugs, Helaine

 

Herbal teas and more!

http://www.misshelaineous.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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One last tip. We put a couple drops of rosemary oil in our bottles of

shampoo...at the very least I remember to put them in our kids' shampoo each

time we open a new one. I've done this in the hopes of repelling lice because

every year my kids' school experiences an epidemic in one class or another. In

the last three years that I've done this my kids have not gotten lice in spite

of one child having her seating assignment place her next to a child who was the

first to be spotted with lice one year.

 

Don't know if the rosemary did the trick, we were lucky or we were dirty enough

(they do only get a washing once a month whether they need it or not!) ... LOL

... but the lice didn't come our way.

 

Dale

 

 

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On the old idma list was a gal named Lowana. She did a lot of research

on lice and EO's. I think it was a species of peppermint that she ID'd

as being helpful.

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Thank you to all who responded about my niece's lice incident. I will be

sharing your treatment suggestions to my sister-in-law this week. What

about carpeting and furniture? Will frequent vacumming take care of that

or should we, my family, stay away for a month? My kids miss playing

with their cousins. Maybe we should stick with outdoor gatherings?

 

Blessings,

Rosanne

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Yes, vacume the furniture and rugs.....no stay overs but you can still visit

just no wearing clothes or using hair things of thiers when they go over. You

might want to check thier hair when they come home for any lice crawling around

too.

 

 

Herbal hugs, Helaine

 

Herbal teas and more!

http://www.misshelaineous.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Rosanne,

 

Also, if you want a more natural alternative to the lice treatment, is to

slather their heads in mayonaise, let sit at least an hour. Put a shower

cap on and leave overnight if possible. Shampoo in the normal fashion, and

rinse with 1/2 vinegar and 1/2 rubbing alcohol, taking care not to get into

the eyes! Will burn like crazy! (ask me how I know! LOL)

 

My kids pediatrician recommended this, and it worked beautifully! Use a nit

comb after rinsing, to make sure to remove all the dead lice and nits. Can

be used over and over if needed, but I only did it one extra time to make

sure all of the lice were gone. :)

 

Bag up anything that cannot be washed in hot water and bleach, and leave for

at least 2 weeks. 1 month is best. Vacuum anything else, and do it daily.

After vacuuming, remove the bag, and throw away. This also came from the

pediatrician. It worked like a charm. I told him that I had bought some of

the 'lice spray' they sell at the market, and he told me not to waste my

money. He said that it didn't do anything to kill or prevent reinfestation.

 

Bless his heart, he was a good man. Died a few years back. He was also my

pediatrician when I was a child. Good ol country caring man, he was! Not

many doc's around like that anymore. He would always give us a natural

'cure' for anything, if he could.

 

Hope this helps your family! And, as far as letting your kids go

around.....go ahead. If you are truly concerned, you can always use a

little bit of conditioner in your hair, and add a small amount of Tea Tree

EO to the conditioner. I read somewhere that this will keep lice away. We

have been doing this occasionally, usually at the beginning of the school

year, and a couple of times later in the year, and my girls haven't gotten

lice again. It's been over 7 years since they had lice.

 

Take care,

Candy in AL

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" Rosanne " <rosanne9

 

Monday, June 21, 2004 7:27 AM

re: lice

 

 

> Thank you to all who responded about my niece's lice incident. I will be

> sharing your treatment suggestions to my sister-in-law this week. What

> about carpeting and furniture? Will frequent vacumming take care of that

> or should we, my family, stay away for a month? My kids miss playing

> with their cousins. Maybe we should stick with outdoor gatherings?

>

> Blessings,

> Rosanne

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G'day all.

 

 

 

Another source for information is

 

 

 

http://www.health.qld.gov.au <http://www.health.qld.gov.au/>

 

 

 

type in `head lice' in the search pane at the top right.

 

 

 

We do have the little fellas down here, even if some unkind people suggest

we're upside down, and they (the lice) should just fall out.

 

Dennis Archer

http://www.toona.com.au

 

 

 

 

 

 

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HA! Gave me my laugh for the evening, mate!

 

Oh, and Happy Winter Solstice

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

 

 

Dennis Archer [toona]

 

 

<snipped>

We do have the little fellas down here, even if some unkind people

suggest

we're upside down, and they (the lice) should just fall out.

 

Dennis Archer

http://www.toona.com.au

 

 

 

 

 

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Sorry I do not post much, I am just learning about using natural things. I was

wondering if someone can help me.

 

It is this time of the year for our school system and yup it is going around my

daughters class. I was so upset when I found my daughter had this and I was not

notified that other children have it. I even called the school nurse and left a

message but she never got back to me. I talked with the teacher and she said

that it is a dont tell thing here. I made sure I told her and other parents

that where picking up there kids from school that day so they knew what was

going on.

That day I called the doctor and they gave me that shampoo you put on her head.

Well let me tell you my daughter said it burned so I only let it sit on her

head for 5 mins instead of the 10. It kinda worked. It did end up killing some

of the larger bugs. It didnt work on the smaller ones or the eggs and my poor

girl is still itching.

I was wondering if anyone knew of something natural I could use. I know that you

can use a few EO's to keep flies off of pets but wasnt sure if it would work on

humans. Any help on this would be great.

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I have heard that covering the head and hair with a heavy oil, like castor, suffocates them - but it has to be left on a long time. Others have suggested tea tree oil ( a friend of mine teaches kindergarten and swears by it - puts it on every day to repel them after having several times herself).

A long time ago when I was working with huge street populations, we were told to shampoo regularly with a product called A-200 ( at least, that's what I remember). I don't recall ever having to leave it sit very long - not like RID or some others.

HTH,

Bobbie

 

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Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:28 AM

Lice

Sorry I do not post much, I am just learning about using natural things. I was wondering if someone can help me.It is this time of the year for our school system and yup it is going around my daughters class. I was so upset when I found my daughter had this and I was not notified that other children have it. I even called the school nurse and left a message but she never got back to me. I talked with the teacher and she said that it is a dont tell thing here. I made sure I told her and other parents that where picking up there kids from school that day so they knew what was going on. That day I called the doctor and they gave me that shampoo you put on her head. Well let me tell you my daughter said it burned so I only let it sit on her head for 5 mins instead of the 10. It kinda worked. It did end up killing some of the larger bugs. It didnt work on the smaller ones or the eggs and my poor girl is still itching. I was wondering if anyone knew of something natural I could use. I know that you can use a few EO's to keep flies off of pets but wasnt sure if it would work on humans. Any help on this would be great.

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I know mayo works. We tried a ton of different things all the store stuff and tried mayo did it twice for two days combed through and they were all gone.

 

I have heard that covering the head and hair with a heavy oil, like castor, suffocates them - but it has to be left on a long time. Others have suggested tea tree oil ( a friend of mine teaches kindergarten and swears by it - puts it on every day to repel them after having several times herself).

A long time ago when I was working with huge street populations, we were told to shampoo regularly with a product called A-200 ( at least, that's what I remember). I don't recall ever having to leave it sit very long - not like RID or some others.

HTH,

Bobbie

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Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:28 AM

Lice

 

Sorry I do not post much, I am just learning about using natural things. I was wondering if someone can help me.

 

It is this time of the year for our school system and yup it is going around my daughters class. I was so upset when I found my daughter had this and I was not notified that other children have it. I even called the school nurse and left a message but she never got back to me. I talked with the teacher and she said that it is a dont tell thing here. I made sure I told her and other parents that where picking up there kids from school that day so they knew what was going on.

That day I called the doctor and they gave me that shampoo you put on her head. Well let me tell you my daughter said it burned so I only let it sit on her head for 5 mins instead of the 10. It kinda worked. It did end up killing some of the larger bugs. It didnt work on the smaller ones or the eggs and my poor girl is still itching.

I was wondering if anyone knew of something natural I could use. I know that you can use a few EO's to keep flies off of pets but wasnt sure if it would work on humans. Any help on this would be great.

 

 

 

 

 

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Even better, mayo. And would be conditioning, too.

Straight castor oil is so, so hard to wash out - takes several washings to get the oily feeling gone...but, it is totally strengthening for the hair, also.

Bobbie

 

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Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:44 AM

Re: Lice

I know mayo works. We tried a ton of different things all the store stuff and tried mayo did it twice for two days combed through and they were all gone.

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Yes, it worked great for conditioning as well. It wasn't to bad to wash out. We let the mayo sit for like 15 mins or so. It doesn't sting or anything that washed it out with shampoo and combed. By the way love your name Bobbie.

 

Even better, mayo. And would be conditioning, too.

Straight castor oil is so, so hard to wash out - takes several washings to get the oily feeling gone...but, it is totally strengthening for the hair, also.

Bobbie

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Bobbie Moore <emilee

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:44 AM

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I know mayo works. We tried a ton of different things all the store stuff and tried mayo did it twice for two days combed through and they were all gone.

 

 

 

 

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didnt even think about using mayo. Ok so how long do I leave it in for?

 

Will this also get rid of the eggs?? That seems to be our problem, we kill the

bugs but it leaves the eggs and I comb and comb and comb and they never come

off.

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We left it on for about 15-20 mins. It makes the hair very slippery I guess would be the best way to put it so nothing sticks to it.

 

didnt even think about using mayo. Ok so how long do I leave it in for?

 

Will this also get rid of the eggs?? That seems to be our problem, we kill the bugs but it leaves the eggs and I comb and comb and comb and they never come off.

 

 

 

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The following link has reviews of many alternate treatments for lice.

They don't encourage the use of any method, it's just FYI.

http://fly.hiwaay.net/~sseale/nonstd.html

 

When I worked in a shelter, we did the mayo treatment, slathered it on

and covered with a shower cap or towel and left for 4 hours. Combing

out the nits seems to be the only way to get them all. :(

 

Take care,

Marvel

 

On 5/31/05, Bobbie Moore <emilee wrote:

> We left it on for about 15-20 mins. It makes the hair very slippery I

> guess would be the best way to put it so nothing sticks to it.

>

>

> didnt even think about using mayo. Ok so how long do I leave it in for?

>

> Will this also get rid of the eggs?? That seems to be our problem, we kill

> the bugs but it leaves the eggs and I comb and comb and comb and they never

> come off.

 

 

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Thank you guys I am heading to the store tonight to get a jar of it. Funny I

dont have any in the house because I dont like the taste of it. lol

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We don't like plain mayo either we like miracle whip. So we had to go buy some as well.

 

Thank you guys I am heading to the store tonight to get a jar of it. Funny I dont have any in the house because I dont like the taste of it. lol

 

 

 

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Another good thing to add to the mayo paste, or by itself is Tea Tree

oil!! AWSOME stuff........it also leaves the hair shinny and not

really oily that I noticed; BUT if your hair is naturally oily may

want too take it easy.

I also applied couple drops to my palms, spread around in my hand and

applied to daughters hair before school, helps to deter them!!!

Marie

 

 

, MomCalzMeNikki

<momcalzmenikki@v...> wrote:

> Sorry I do not post much, I am just learning about using natural

things. I was wondering if someone can help me.

>

> It is this time of the year for our school system and yup it is

going around my daughters class. I was so upset when I found my

daughter had this and I was not notified that other children have

it. I even called the school nurse and left a message but she never

got back to me. I talked with the teacher and she said that it is a

dont tell thing here. I made sure I told her and other parents that

where picking up there kids from school that day so they knew what

was going on.

> That day I called the doctor and they gave me that shampoo you put

on her head. Well let me tell you my daughter said it burned so I

only let it sit on her head for 5 mins instead of the 10. It kinda

worked. It did end up killing some of the larger bugs. It didnt

work on the smaller ones or the eggs and my poor girl is still

itching.

> I was wondering if anyone knew of something natural I could use. I

know that you can use a few EO's to keep flies off of pets but wasnt

sure if it would work on humans. Any help on this would be great.

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What I did is since I couldnt get the eggs out even with the egg

treatment. I sat my daughter down each and every day and went through

her head with the pic and used a small set of scissors to cut out the

eggs. Put her pillows in the dryer each and every night. I even tried

the Vasoline in ehr hair but it takes a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time to get

out. several dozen washings.

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Tea tree oil worked great for my daughter and my nieces! My sister

had a bad time with lice a few years back. She put it in a spray

bottle 3/4 tea tree 1/4 water and sprayed there hair. Its also

important to strip the whole bed every morning. Also changing your

vacum cleaner bag. Making sure they are not wearing the same pj's

over again. Stuffed animals need to be dryed in the dryer. Your

couch and other furniture needs to be vacumed daily. My daughter is

20 now and had it in preschool. It was so bad they ended up closing

the school down for two weeks to bomb and clean. Also......dont forget

about treating your pets as well. We tried everything and tea tree

worked even then. It was hard to get and more expensive then it is

now. I sprayed her hair and then ran a nit comb soaked in tea tree

threw her hair. Also put a few drops in your shampoo when you use it.

I have been told that lavendar oil works as well. But, Ive not tried

it.

 

Good Luck

Kathy

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Wow! Our school system sends a note home when lice is found in our child's class. Maybe a petition to change school policy might be in order in addition to caring for your daughter.

 

I am no expert, but I have heard that Tea Tree is just about a cure all for everything.

 

NE ShadowMomCalzMeNikki <momcalzmenikki wrote:

Sorry I do not post much, I am just learning about using natural things. I was wondering if someone can help me.It is this time of the year for our school system and yup it is going around my daughters class. I was so upset when I found my daughter had this and I was not notified that other children have it. I even called the school nurse and left a message but she never got back to me. I talked with the teacher and she said that it is a dont tell thing here. I made sure I told her and other parents that where picking up there kids from school that day so they knew what was going on. That day I called the doctor and they gave me that shampoo you put on her head. Well let me tell you my daughter said it burned so I only let it sit on her head for 5 mins instead of the 10. It kinda worked. It did end up killing some of the larger bugs. It

didnt work on the smaller ones or the eggs and my poor girl is still itching. I was wondering if anyone knew of something natural I could use. I know that you can use a few EO's to keep flies off of pets but wasnt sure if it would work on humans. Any help on this would be great.

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