Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 I'm not Paula, but "most" liquid soaps are made with potassium hydroxide - still a lye. Bottom line is there is no soap without lye. However, as it's been pointed out - once lye and fats are mixed and saponification occurs - the end result is neither lye nor fat, so it would be true that the product you put on your body has no lye...at that point. It may be some kind of cleansing liquid - does this person list the ingredients? I am soo curious now as to what your product is. The word "Natural" sure gets thrown around : ) In my eyes, if something is truly natural, one picks it, maybe washes it off, and either applies it or eats it, but then again I'm that way : ) Eh, but I guess soap is the natural reaction of fats falling into lye, lye the natural reaction when water falls in ashes. There is old folklore that our earliest ancestors "discovered" soap when rain fell on campfire sites where meat had been roasted. Now, in my opinion, it took a true adventurer to scoop up the bubbles or whatever and rub them on their hands LOL Lye, in some form, is in a variety or products that we use everyday, I've been told. Some Fabric dyeing processes utilize a lye, and some commercially prepared canned fruits and veggies use lye for peeling. You know how most olives are cured - in a lye solution! Usually several lye baths followed by saltwater soaks - it's a much faster process than oil curing that can take weeks - months. Lye, like all chemicals, needs to be handled with moderation and care. Even the simplest, most good for you products contain chemicals that can kill you if not used as intended. For example, di-hydrogen oxide - we use it every day, however, it can cause excessive sweating and vomiting, it is a major component in acid rain, it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state, accidental inhalation can kill you, it contributes to erosion, it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes, it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients, yet we would be unable to live without it. Okay, now I'll be quiet, Bobbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Do you know what di-hydrogen oxide is used for? Just being curious Laurie , " Robin Eastman " <lostgirls@e...> wrote: > Lye, like all chemicals, needs to be handled with moderation and care. Even the simplest, most good for you products contain chemicals that can kill you if not used as intended. For example, di- hydrogen oxide - we use it every day, however, it can cause excessive sweating and vomiting, it is a major component in acid rain, it can cause severe burns in its gaseous state, accidental inhalation can kill you, it contributes to erosion, it decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes, it has been found in tumors of terminal cancer patients, yet we would be unable to live without it. > Okay, now I'll be quiet, > Bobbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Yeah, however the correct chemical term is Dihydrogen Monoxide. It is used to dilute liquids and as a solvent usually for cleaning. Every cleaning product in your home (even the all-natural ones) contains it. It is in milk, juice, soda, beer, wine, and occurs naturally in fruits and vegetables. It covers 70% of the planet and is present in every stream, river, lake and ocean. It is even found in the polar ice caps. It also kills thousands every year and causes billions of dollars worth of damage to buildings, farmland and roadways every year. It is also commonly called " water " . Wayne. Laurie [aescinga] Monday, June 28, 2004 10:42 AM Re: Now More on Lye Do you know what di-hydrogen oxide is used for? Just being curious Laurie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 *EMBARRESSED* ;-) My schoolgirl chemistry should have told me that!!! The term H2O is usually used here though! ;-) Laurie (UK) , " Nuada Stormbringer " <nuada@w...> wrote: > Yeah, however the correct chemical term is Dihydrogen Monoxide. It is used > to dilute liquids and as a solvent usually for cleaning. > It is also commonly called " water " . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 There are a few plants that produce saponins (they suds when agitated in water), like soapwort (bouncing bet). But other than that, don't all cleansing liquids generally have some soap or detergent in them? At least cleansing liquids meant for bodies, I would guess. ~sf , " Robin Eastman " <lostgirls@e...> wrote: > I'm not Paula, but " most " liquid soaps are made with potassium hydroxide - still a lye. Bottom line is there is no soap without lye. However, as it's been pointed out - once lye and fats are mixed and saponification occurs - the end result is neither lye nor fat, so it would be true that the product you put on your body has no lye...at that point. It may be some kind of cleansing liquid - does this person list the ingredients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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