Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Hi, I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. Thanks Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Steve, I have used Vogel wands quite a bit. I have also used wands that were more powerful (for me) than the Vogel wands. If you haven't purchased one yet, be careful when you do. There are many people who sell very inferior wands as Vogels. I actually buy from one large dealer in Brazil who calls their wands Vogel but are no where near the quality that I would expect in a Vogel wand. ( I don't buy his " Vogels " however). They do direct energy very well. The more sides on a Vogel, the quicker the energy transmits through the crystal. I have used them to remove energetic blocks and implants quite successfully. They are quite remarkable in their ability to help remove and cut energy cords as well. If you have more specific questions... ask away. In gratitude, John Van Rees Exquisitecrystals.com > > > Hi, > > I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It > would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any > experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 From what I understand there are only a few people who can actually cut and " attune " a real Vogel. I can dowse the potential energy from crystals when I look at them. Real Vogels on avg seem to have about 7 times more potential energy than the ones that just have the Vogel type cuts. Having said that I have spoke to some friends who do energy work and have used the less expensive Vogel cut look a likes and they still work, though not quite as well. Which wands for you were more powerful than the Vogels? Thanks Steve , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Steve, > > I have used Vogel wands quite a bit. I have also used wands that were > more powerful (for me) than the Vogel wands. > > If you haven't purchased one yet, be careful when you do. There are many > people who sell very inferior wands > as Vogels. I actually buy from one large dealer in Brazil who calls > their wands Vogel but are no where near the quality > that I would expect in a Vogel wand. ( I don't buy his " Vogels " however). > > They do direct energy very well. The more sides on a Vogel, the quicker > the energy transmits through the crystal. I have > used them to remove energetic blocks and implants quite successfully. > They are quite remarkable in their ability to help > remove and cut energy cords as well. > > If you have more specific questions... ask away. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > Exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It > > would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any > > experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 A Vogel cut by Marcel Vogel or one of his students will cost you big bucks. You can find the knock offs for much less. Twirl them around to check the way they are cut. If the cuts are consistent, then that is a good sign, if the facets don't line up too well, then you may want to pass. , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Steve, > > I have used Vogel wands quite a bit. I have also used wands that were > more powerful (for me) than the Vogel wands. > > If you haven't purchased one yet, be careful when you do. There are many > people who sell very inferior wands > as Vogels. I actually buy from one large dealer in Brazil who calls > their wands Vogel but are no where near the quality > that I would expect in a Vogel wand. ( I don't buy his " Vogels " however). > > They do direct energy very well. The more sides on a Vogel, the quicker > the energy transmits through the crystal. I have > used them to remove energetic blocks and implants quite successfully. > They are quite remarkable in their ability to help > remove and cut energy cords as well. > > If you have more specific questions... ask away. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > Exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It > > would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any > > experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Interesting. Thanks for the tip... -Char Gary Apr 3, 2010 12:18 PM [CrystalHW] Re: Vogel Crystals A Vogel cut by Marcel Vogel or one of his students will cost you big bucks. You can find the knock offs for much less. Twirl them around to check the way they are cut. If the cuts are consistent, then that is a good sign, if the facets don't line up too well, then you may want to pass. , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Steve, > > I have used Vogel wands quite a bit. I have also used wands that were > more powerful (for me) than the Vogel wands. > > If you haven't purchased one yet, be careful when you do. There are many > people who sell very inferior wands > as Vogels. I actually buy from one large dealer in Brazil who calls > their wands Vogel but are no where near the quality > that I would expect in a Vogel wand. ( I don't buy his " Vogels " however). > > They do direct energy very well. The more sides on a Vogel, the quicker > the energy transmits through the crystal. I have > used them to remove energetic blocks and implants quite successfully. > They are quite remarkable in their ability to help > remove and cut energy cords as well. > > If you have more specific questions... ask away. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > Exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It > > would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any > > experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2010 Report Share Posted April 5, 2010 Steve, The wands I prefer are from Lawrence Stoller. Each one is hand cut and polished with intention. Also when Lawrence cuts the wands he waits for one to tell him that they want to be used for this particular wand for this particular person. So the crystal is choosing the user. Then Lawrence works with the natural crystal to attune with it to find which way the wand wants to be cut... again learning from the crystal. While some of the crystals may not have the Kabbalistic shape of the Vogels, the intention and love which they are created with is wonderful. In gratitude, John Van Rees Exquisitecrystals.com > > > From what I understand there are only a few people who can actually > cut and " attune " a real Vogel. I can dowse the potential energy from > crystals when I look at them. Real Vogels on avg seem to have about 7 > times more potential energy than the ones that just have the Vogel > type cuts. Having said that I have spoke to some friends who do energy > work and have used the less expensive Vogel cut look a likes and they > still work, though not quite as well. > > Which wands for you were more powerful than the Vogels? > > Thanks > Steve > > > <%40>, John Van Rees > <john wrote: > > > > Steve, > > > > I have used Vogel wands quite a bit. I have also used wands that were > > more powerful (for me) than the Vogel wands. > > > > If you haven't purchased one yet, be careful when you do. There are > many > > people who sell very inferior wands > > as Vogels. I actually buy from one large dealer in Brazil who calls > > their wands Vogel but are no where near the quality > > that I would expect in a Vogel wand. ( I don't buy his " Vogels " > however). > > > > They do direct energy very well. The more sides on a Vogel, the quicker > > the energy transmits through the crystal. I have > > used them to remove energetic blocks and implants quite successfully. > > They are quite remarkable in their ability to help > > remove and cut energy cords as well. > > > > If you have more specific questions... ask away. > > > > In gratitude, > > > > John Van Rees > > Exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It > > > would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any > > > experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 Thanks John, saw the Isis crystal on your site, looks great, I can feel the energy from and it is quite powerful. A little out of my range at $1600 but beautiful to behold like a Ferrari. Peace Steve , John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Steve, > > The wands I prefer are from Lawrence Stoller. Each one is hand cut and > polished with intention. Also when Lawrence cuts > the wands he waits for one to tell him that they want to be used for > this particular wand for this particular person. So the crystal > is choosing the user. Then Lawrence works with the natural crystal to > attune with it to find which way the wand wants to be cut... > again learning from the crystal. > > While some of the crystals may not have the Kabbalistic shape of the > Vogels, the intention and love which they are created > with is wonderful. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > Exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > From what I understand there are only a few people who can actually > > cut and " attune " a real Vogel. I can dowse the potential energy from > > crystals when I look at them. Real Vogels on avg seem to have about 7 > > times more potential energy than the ones that just have the Vogel > > type cuts. Having said that I have spoke to some friends who do energy > > work and have used the less expensive Vogel cut look a likes and they > > still work, though not quite as well. > > > > Which wands for you were more powerful than the Vogels? > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > <%40>, John Van Rees > > <john@> wrote: > > > > > > Steve, > > > > > > I have used Vogel wands quite a bit. I have also used wands that were > > > more powerful (for me) than the Vogel wands. > > > > > > If you haven't purchased one yet, be careful when you do. There are > > many > > > people who sell very inferior wands > > > as Vogels. I actually buy from one large dealer in Brazil who calls > > > their wands Vogel but are no where near the quality > > > that I would expect in a Vogel wand. ( I don't buy his " Vogels " > > however). > > > > > > They do direct energy very well. The more sides on a Vogel, the quicker > > > the energy transmits through the crystal. I have > > > used them to remove energetic blocks and implants quite successfully. > > > They are quite remarkable in their ability to help > > > remove and cut energy cords as well. > > > > > > If you have more specific questions... ask away. > > > > > > In gratitude, > > > > > > John Van Rees > > > Exquisitecrystals.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I joined this forum because of an interest in Vogel cut crystals. It > > > > would be great if anyone who has worked with these can share any > > > > experiences you've had with them in healing or manifestation. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > > > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > signature database 4995 (20100402) __________ > > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > > > http://www.eset.com <http://www.eset.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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