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In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

holyreality11 writes:

 

~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal

and purify them incredibly !~~~

 

 

Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not

truly want to be healed.

 

Blessings to your night all.

ReNau

" Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

" Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "

 

 

 

 

 

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i recognize that crystals contain tremendous healing potential

 

this is a question on , and intention to, (how to/) access, their full loving

benevolent potential

 

for instance,

 

let us say , an elixir might be a most pertinent way to access a crystals full

capacity ,

 

what is a high vibe pure crystal to put in water , and how long must it be

there, that will tremendously boost our consciousness? herkimer diamond ?

 

i have all these stones and i know i am, in need of accessing their highest

vibratinoal capacity, because, i should not hold an amethyst in my hands and

barely feel anything, how to amplify them up and commune with them, in goodness

and love ?

 

a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone and

immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal and

purify them incredibly !

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holyreality11 wrote:

 

 

 

> i recognize that crystals contain tremendous healing potential

>

> this is a question on , and intention to, (how to/) access, their full

> loving benevolent potential

>

> for instance,

>

> let us say , an elixir might be a most pertinent way to access a

> crystals full capacity ,

>

> what is a high vibe pure crystal to put in water , and how long must

> it be there, that will tremendously boost our consciousness? herkimer

> diamond ?

>

In some cases an elixir will be the most effective means of working with

a crystal and sometimes Herkimer might be the best crystal in a

particular situation to boost consciousness etc. however every

individual and situation varies so your question does not have a single

absolute answer. As for what you should or should not be able to do

theire are also no absolutes there. Sometimes one will feel a crystal

energy strongly and sometimes one will not .One does not always or in

some cases may never need to feel a particular energy strongly . their

is also the question of what you meaaan by stongly high frequency

energies are often subtle the perceptions of strength of an energy has

very little to do with either the actual effectiveness of or the actual

strength of the energy.

I am not sure I agree with the statement about what a master " ought " to

be able to do one may be able to do that but it might not be appropriate

nor may the proposed recipient be ready. There are many kinds of mastery

and most of the truly wise do not go in for the flash and drama. When

you do meet a true master you may indeed receive those benefits you

describe with or without crystals or you may not .

 

Peggy Jentoft

 

>

> i have all these stones and i know i am, in need of accessing their

> highest vibratinoal capacity, because, i should not hold an amethyst

> in my hands and barely feel anything, how to amplify them up and

> commune with them, in goodness and love ?

>

> a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

> and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and

> heal and purify them incredibly !

>

>

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well said....

 

paula (pas) 

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 www.co-conspiritorsbydesign.com

 

 

--- On Tue, 3/9/10, renaumoon <renaumoon wrote:

 

renaumoon <renaumoon

Re: [CrystalHW] supreme purification

 

Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 9:21 PM

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

holyreality11 writes:

 

~~~a  master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

and  immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal

and  purify them incredibly !~~~

 

 

Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not 

truly want to be healed.

 

Blessings to your night all.

ReNau

" Codail,  suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

" Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "  

 

 

 

 

 

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To add to Peggy's thoughts regarding the following statement:

 

" a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

>

> and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and

> heal and purify them incredibly ! "

 

The " master " is simply a conduit for the transference of energy, the process of

healing is ultimately up to the individual. Healing may be on any or many

different levels other than this physical plane. There may be a reason for the

illness and it may need to play its course. We all have the God essence within

us, and we all have the responsibility to heal ourselves. The master, the

practitioner, shaman, whatever you want to call it is the facilitator, the

guide.

linda

 

On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:51 PM, peggyj wrote:

 

holyreality11 wrote:

 

i recognize that crystals contain tremendous healing potential

>

> this is a question on , and intention to, (how to/) access, their full

> loving benevolent potential

>

> for instance,

>

> let us say , an elixir might be a most pertinent way to access a

> crystals full capacity ,

>

> what is a high vibe pure crystal to put in water , and how long must

> it be there, that will tremendously boost our consciousness? herkimer

> diamond ?

>

In some cases an elixir will be the most effective means of working with

a crystal and sometimes Herkimer might be the best crystal in a

particular situation to boost consciousness etc. however every

individual and situation varies so your question does not have a single

absolute answer. As for what you should or should not be able to do

theire are also no absolutes there. Sometimes one will feel a crystal

energy strongly and sometimes one will not .One does not always or in

some cases may never need to feel a particular energy strongly . their

is also the question of what you meaaan by stongly high frequency

energies are often subtle the perceptions of strength of an energy has

very little to do with either the actual effectiveness of or the actual

strength of the energy.

I am not sure I agree with the statement about what a master " ought " to

be able to do one may be able to do that but it might not be appropriate

nor may the proposed recipient be ready. There are many kinds of mastery

and most of the truly wise do not go in for the flash and drama. When

you do meet a true master you may indeed receive those benefits you

describe with or without crystals or you may not .

 

Peggy Jentoft

 

>

> i have all these stones and i know i am, in need of accessing their

> highest vibratinoal capacity, because, i should not hold an amethyst

> in my hands and barely feel anything, how to amplify them up and

> commune with them, in goodness and love ?

>

> a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

> and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and

> heal and purify them incredibly !

>

>

 

 

 

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The Crystal healing workshop files are online at

http://pjentoft.com/0crystal-healing.html

some files, photos, and message archives can also be found At:

 

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Hello ReNau and friends,

 

Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not

truly want to be healed.

 

I know it is not a popular thought in this day and age, but I really do not

agree with the statement above. I believe that everyone we meet on our

healing journey wishes to seek healing for his/her self - it is just that

some journeys take many months or even years longer than we, as healers,

like to think they should. True healing requires an enormous change on

every level of our being and can only occur as and when it is ABLE to

occur. It is not for us to say what someone's journey should look like or

how long it should take. Some people are able to withstand and work through

the necessary changes in life significantly quicker than other people.

Shifts can only occur when we are able to make them, not before. It has

nothing whatsoever to do with not wanting to be well. I know healing is

often seen as this beautiful magical process, and for many it is, but there

are just as many people for whom the process of healing is a profoundly

difficult and painful process. If this process is different to what we are

used to seeing it can be difficult to see it as anything other than this

person doesn't want to get better. The problem is that people such as

Louise Hay and Carolynne Myss have become elevated to the status of

demigods, and their utterances have become almost law. I do wish we could

return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our fingers at people for

whom the healing process is anything but gentle.

 

Much love,

Mandy

 

On 10 March 2010 03:21, <renaumoon wrote:

 

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> holyreality11 writes:

>

> ~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

> and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal

> and purify them incredibly !~~~

>

>

> Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not

> truly want to be healed.

>

> Blessings to your night all.

> ReNau

> " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

> " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you Mandy for that insight.

linda

On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:18 AM, Mandy Reilly wrote:

 

Hello ReNau and friends,

 

Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not

truly want to be healed.

 

I know it is not a popular thought in this day and age, but I really do not

agree with the statement above. I believe that everyone we meet on our

healing journey wishes to seek healing for his/her self - it is just that

some journeys take many months or even years longer than we, as healers,

like to think they should. True healing requires an enormous change on

every level of our being and can only occur as and when it is ABLE to

occur. It is not for us to say what someone's journey should look like or

how long it should take. Some people are able to withstand and work through

the necessary changes in life significantly quicker than other people.

Shifts can only occur when we are able to make them, not before. It has

nothing whatsoever to do with not wanting to be well. I know healing is

often seen as this beautiful magical process, and for many it is, but there

are just as many people for whom the process of healing is a profoundly

difficult and painful process. If this process is different to what we are

used to seeing it can be difficult to see it as anything other than this

person doesn't want to get better. The problem is that people such as

Louise Hay and Carolynne Myss have become elevated to the status of

demigods, and their utterances have become almost law. I do wish we could

return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our fingers at people for

whom the healing process is anything but gentle.

 

Much love,

Mandy

 

On 10 March 2010 03:21, <renaumoon wrote:

 

>

>

>

> In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> holyreality11 writes:

>

> ~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone

> and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal

> and purify them incredibly !~~~

>

>

> Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not

> truly want to be healed.

>

> Blessings to your night all.

> ReNau

> " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

> " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 3/10/2010 6:57:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mandy.reilly writes:

~~~~I do wish we could return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our

fingers at people for whom the healing process is anything but gentle.~~~~

 

Greetings Mandy,

 

There really is no finger pointing being done, merely the observation of human

nature. I am what one calls a " people watcher " I have been all my life. This is

from my personal experience, nothing more, nothing less.

 

I have met/watched many people through the years who on the surface say they

want to be healed but they don't want to put forth any of the energy themselves

for the healing. They basically want it handed to them on a silver platter where

they do nothing more then lie there. We are all responsible for being an active

participant in the healing we want to accomplish whether it is healing that

takes place quickly or over the course of months/years. We cannot sit on the

sidelines of our own healing (no matter what level it is on) and expect others

to just do it for us without doing for ourselves as well.

 

And while we are on the subject of healing ... how do you perceive a

hypochondriac and whether or not they truly want to be healed or just starved

are for the attention that being " sick " brings them? It would be quite

presumptuous of me to assume that everyone want the same healing that I receive

and that everyone wants to be healed at all. Another good example would be the

martyr for a cause (that may pertain to healthcare, medicine, therapy ... what

have you.)

 

This next part maybe isn't the best example but I am tired and it is the only

one my brain will come up with right now ......Let's say the martyr is

boycotting chemo for cancer treatment. They have cancer themselves but won't go

the chemo route to try to " cure " it. So I ask, is potentially dying for a

" cause " that is health related showing that the martyr truly wanted to be healed

when there was an option given to them but they did not like that option so took

no healing at all? I could even bring suicide into this one but I will leave it

just as it is, without pursuing that line further.

 

When it comes to anyone's healing, I really do not think any of us can say that

there is any true black or white to it just mostly gray areas. And I stand by my

personal feelings from watching others, that some people at various points in

their life/path do NOT want healing or to be healed. That is not saying that

eventually they will not change their mind, it is just saying that for " this

moment " they do not want it.

 

Blessings to your eve all.

ReNau

 

" Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

" Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Another excellent insight

linda

On Mar 10, 2010, at 8:22 PM, ReNau wrote:

 

 

In a message dated 3/10/2010 6:57:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

mandy.reilly writes:

~~~~I do wish we could return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our

fingers at people for whom the healing process is anything but gentle.~~~~

 

Greetings Mandy,

 

There really is no finger pointing being done, merely the observation of human

nature. I am what one calls a " people watcher " I have been all my life. This is

from my personal experience, nothing more, nothing less.

 

I have met/watched many people through the years who on the surface say they

want to be healed but they don't want to put forth any of the energy themselves

for the healing. They basically want it handed to them on a silver platter where

they do nothing more then lie there. We are all responsible for being an active

participant in the healing we want to accomplish whether it is healing that

takes place quickly or over the course of months/years. We cannot sit on the

sidelines of our own healing (no matter what level it is on) and expect others

to just do it for us without doing for ourselves as well.

 

And while we are on the subject of healing ... how do you perceive a

hypochondriac and whether or not they truly want to be healed or just starved

are for the attention that being " sick " brings them? It would be quite

presumptuous of me to assume that everyone want the same healing that I receive

and that everyone wants to be healed at all. Another good example would be the

martyr for a cause (that may pertain to healthcare, medicine, therapy ... what

have you.)

 

This next part maybe isn't the best example but I am tired and it is the only

one my brain will come up with right now ......Let's say the martyr is

boycotting chemo for cancer treatment. They have cancer themselves but won't go

the chemo route to try to " cure " it. So I ask, is potentially dying for a

" cause " that is health related showing that the martyr truly wanted to be healed

when there was an option given to them but they did not like that option so took

no healing at all? I could even bring suicide into this one but I will leave it

just as it is, without pursuing that line further.

 

When it comes to anyone's healing, I really do not think any of us can say that

there is any true black or white to it just mostly gray areas. And I stand by my

personal feelings from watching others, that some people at various points in

their life/path do NOT want healing or to be healed. That is not saying that

eventually they will not change their mind, it is just saying that for " this

moment " they do not want it.

 

Blessings to your eve all.

ReNau

 

" Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

" Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "

 

 

=

 

 

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