Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, holyreality11 writes: ~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal and purify them incredibly !~~~ Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not truly want to be healed. Blessings to your night all. ReNau " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 i recognize that crystals contain tremendous healing potential this is a question on , and intention to, (how to/) access, their full loving benevolent potential for instance, let us say , an elixir might be a most pertinent way to access a crystals full capacity , what is a high vibe pure crystal to put in water , and how long must it be there, that will tremendously boost our consciousness? herkimer diamond ? i have all these stones and i know i am, in need of accessing their highest vibratinoal capacity, because, i should not hold an amethyst in my hands and barely feel anything, how to amplify them up and commune with them, in goodness and love ? a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal and purify them incredibly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 holyreality11 wrote: > i recognize that crystals contain tremendous healing potential > > this is a question on , and intention to, (how to/) access, their full > loving benevolent potential > > for instance, > > let us say , an elixir might be a most pertinent way to access a > crystals full capacity , > > what is a high vibe pure crystal to put in water , and how long must > it be there, that will tremendously boost our consciousness? herkimer > diamond ? > In some cases an elixir will be the most effective means of working with a crystal and sometimes Herkimer might be the best crystal in a particular situation to boost consciousness etc. however every individual and situation varies so your question does not have a single absolute answer. As for what you should or should not be able to do theire are also no absolutes there. Sometimes one will feel a crystal energy strongly and sometimes one will not .One does not always or in some cases may never need to feel a particular energy strongly . their is also the question of what you meaaan by stongly high frequency energies are often subtle the perceptions of strength of an energy has very little to do with either the actual effectiveness of or the actual strength of the energy. I am not sure I agree with the statement about what a master " ought " to be able to do one may be able to do that but it might not be appropriate nor may the proposed recipient be ready. There are many kinds of mastery and most of the truly wise do not go in for the flash and drama. When you do meet a true master you may indeed receive those benefits you describe with or without crystals or you may not . Peggy Jentoft > > i have all these stones and i know i am, in need of accessing their > highest vibratinoal capacity, because, i should not hold an amethyst > in my hands and barely feel anything, how to amplify them up and > commune with them, in goodness and love ? > > a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone > and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and > heal and purify them incredibly ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 well said.... paula (pas) imatellinub4 www.co-conspiritorsbydesign.com --- On Tue, 3/9/10, renaumoon <renaumoon wrote: renaumoon <renaumoon Re: [CrystalHW] supreme purification Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 9:21 PM In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, holyreality11 writes: ~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal and purify them incredibly !~~~ Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not truly want to be healed. Blessings to your night all. ReNau " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 To add to Peggy's thoughts regarding the following statement: " a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone > > and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and > heal and purify them incredibly ! " The " master " is simply a conduit for the transference of energy, the process of healing is ultimately up to the individual. Healing may be on any or many different levels other than this physical plane. There may be a reason for the illness and it may need to play its course. We all have the God essence within us, and we all have the responsibility to heal ourselves. The master, the practitioner, shaman, whatever you want to call it is the facilitator, the guide. linda On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:51 PM, peggyj wrote: holyreality11 wrote: i recognize that crystals contain tremendous healing potential > > this is a question on , and intention to, (how to/) access, their full > loving benevolent potential > > for instance, > > let us say , an elixir might be a most pertinent way to access a > crystals full capacity , > > what is a high vibe pure crystal to put in water , and how long must > it be there, that will tremendously boost our consciousness? herkimer > diamond ? > In some cases an elixir will be the most effective means of working with a crystal and sometimes Herkimer might be the best crystal in a particular situation to boost consciousness etc. however every individual and situation varies so your question does not have a single absolute answer. As for what you should or should not be able to do theire are also no absolutes there. Sometimes one will feel a crystal energy strongly and sometimes one will not .One does not always or in some cases may never need to feel a particular energy strongly . their is also the question of what you meaaan by stongly high frequency energies are often subtle the perceptions of strength of an energy has very little to do with either the actual effectiveness of or the actual strength of the energy. I am not sure I agree with the statement about what a master " ought " to be able to do one may be able to do that but it might not be appropriate nor may the proposed recipient be ready. There are many kinds of mastery and most of the truly wise do not go in for the flash and drama. When you do meet a true master you may indeed receive those benefits you describe with or without crystals or you may not . Peggy Jentoft > > i have all these stones and i know i am, in need of accessing their > highest vibratinoal capacity, because, i should not hold an amethyst > in my hands and barely feel anything, how to amplify them up and > commune with them, in goodness and love ? > > a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone > and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and > heal and purify them incredibly ! > > --- The Crystal healing workshop files are online at http://pjentoft.com/0crystal-healing.html some files, photos, and message archives can also be found At: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Hello ReNau and friends, Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not truly want to be healed. I know it is not a popular thought in this day and age, but I really do not agree with the statement above. I believe that everyone we meet on our healing journey wishes to seek healing for his/her self - it is just that some journeys take many months or even years longer than we, as healers, like to think they should. True healing requires an enormous change on every level of our being and can only occur as and when it is ABLE to occur. It is not for us to say what someone's journey should look like or how long it should take. Some people are able to withstand and work through the necessary changes in life significantly quicker than other people. Shifts can only occur when we are able to make them, not before. It has nothing whatsoever to do with not wanting to be well. I know healing is often seen as this beautiful magical process, and for many it is, but there are just as many people for whom the process of healing is a profoundly difficult and painful process. If this process is different to what we are used to seeing it can be difficult to see it as anything other than this person doesn't want to get better. The problem is that people such as Louise Hay and Carolynne Myss have become elevated to the status of demigods, and their utterances have become almost law. I do wish we could return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our fingers at people for whom the healing process is anything but gentle. Much love, Mandy On 10 March 2010 03:21, <renaumoon wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > holyreality11 writes: > > ~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone > and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal > and purify them incredibly !~~~ > > > Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not > truly want to be healed. > > Blessings to your night all. > ReNau > " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " > " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Thank you Mandy for that insight. linda On Mar 10, 2010, at 7:18 AM, Mandy Reilly wrote: Hello ReNau and friends, Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not truly want to be healed. I know it is not a popular thought in this day and age, but I really do not agree with the statement above. I believe that everyone we meet on our healing journey wishes to seek healing for his/her self - it is just that some journeys take many months or even years longer than we, as healers, like to think they should. True healing requires an enormous change on every level of our being and can only occur as and when it is ABLE to occur. It is not for us to say what someone's journey should look like or how long it should take. Some people are able to withstand and work through the necessary changes in life significantly quicker than other people. Shifts can only occur when we are able to make them, not before. It has nothing whatsoever to do with not wanting to be well. I know healing is often seen as this beautiful magical process, and for many it is, but there are just as many people for whom the process of healing is a profoundly difficult and painful process. If this process is different to what we are used to seeing it can be difficult to see it as anything other than this person doesn't want to get better. The problem is that people such as Louise Hay and Carolynne Myss have become elevated to the status of demigods, and their utterances have become almost law. I do wish we could return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our fingers at people for whom the healing process is anything but gentle. Much love, Mandy On 10 March 2010 03:21, <renaumoon wrote: > > > > In a message dated 3/9/2010 9:28:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > holyreality11 writes: > > ~~~a master ought be able to merely point a crystal generator at someone > and immediately improve their wellbeing, their eyesight, dissolve and heal > and purify them incredibly !~~~ > > > Even a master cannot always overcome the will of a person who does not > truly want to be healed. > > Blessings to your night all. > ReNau > " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " > " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 In a message dated 3/10/2010 6:57:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mandy.reilly writes: ~~~~I do wish we could return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our fingers at people for whom the healing process is anything but gentle.~~~~ Greetings Mandy, There really is no finger pointing being done, merely the observation of human nature. I am what one calls a " people watcher " I have been all my life. This is from my personal experience, nothing more, nothing less. I have met/watched many people through the years who on the surface say they want to be healed but they don't want to put forth any of the energy themselves for the healing. They basically want it handed to them on a silver platter where they do nothing more then lie there. We are all responsible for being an active participant in the healing we want to accomplish whether it is healing that takes place quickly or over the course of months/years. We cannot sit on the sidelines of our own healing (no matter what level it is on) and expect others to just do it for us without doing for ourselves as well. And while we are on the subject of healing ... how do you perceive a hypochondriac and whether or not they truly want to be healed or just starved are for the attention that being " sick " brings them? It would be quite presumptuous of me to assume that everyone want the same healing that I receive and that everyone wants to be healed at all. Another good example would be the martyr for a cause (that may pertain to healthcare, medicine, therapy ... what have you.) This next part maybe isn't the best example but I am tired and it is the only one my brain will come up with right now ......Let's say the martyr is boycotting chemo for cancer treatment. They have cancer themselves but won't go the chemo route to try to " cure " it. So I ask, is potentially dying for a " cause " that is health related showing that the martyr truly wanted to be healed when there was an option given to them but they did not like that option so took no healing at all? I could even bring suicide into this one but I will leave it just as it is, without pursuing that line further. When it comes to anyone's healing, I really do not think any of us can say that there is any true black or white to it just mostly gray areas. And I stand by my personal feelings from watching others, that some people at various points in their life/path do NOT want healing or to be healed. That is not saying that eventually they will not change their mind, it is just saying that for " this moment " they do not want it. Blessings to your eve all. ReNau " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 Another excellent insight linda On Mar 10, 2010, at 8:22 PM, ReNau wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2010 6:57:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mandy.reilly writes: ~~~~I do wish we could return to a place of compassion and stop pointing our fingers at people for whom the healing process is anything but gentle.~~~~ Greetings Mandy, There really is no finger pointing being done, merely the observation of human nature. I am what one calls a " people watcher " I have been all my life. This is from my personal experience, nothing more, nothing less. I have met/watched many people through the years who on the surface say they want to be healed but they don't want to put forth any of the energy themselves for the healing. They basically want it handed to them on a silver platter where they do nothing more then lie there. We are all responsible for being an active participant in the healing we want to accomplish whether it is healing that takes place quickly or over the course of months/years. We cannot sit on the sidelines of our own healing (no matter what level it is on) and expect others to just do it for us without doing for ourselves as well. And while we are on the subject of healing ... how do you perceive a hypochondriac and whether or not they truly want to be healed or just starved are for the attention that being " sick " brings them? It would be quite presumptuous of me to assume that everyone want the same healing that I receive and that everyone wants to be healed at all. Another good example would be the martyr for a cause (that may pertain to healthcare, medicine, therapy ... what have you.) This next part maybe isn't the best example but I am tired and it is the only one my brain will come up with right now ......Let's say the martyr is boycotting chemo for cancer treatment. They have cancer themselves but won't go the chemo route to try to " cure " it. So I ask, is potentially dying for a " cause " that is health related showing that the martyr truly wanted to be healed when there was an option given to them but they did not like that option so took no healing at all? I could even bring suicide into this one but I will leave it just as it is, without pursuing that line further. When it comes to anyone's healing, I really do not think any of us can say that there is any true black or white to it just mostly gray areas. And I stand by my personal feelings from watching others, that some people at various points in their life/path do NOT want healing or to be healed. That is not saying that eventually they will not change their mind, it is just saying that for " this moment " they do not want it. Blessings to your eve all. ReNau " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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