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agree with John and Kathy.

looking at the terms she used (Budhith and all that) - no wonder deep thinker

like Ken Wilber doesn't agree with the whole New Age movement - too many people

out there trying too hard to sell their books based on weird ideas - a mixture

of everything and going nowhere.

It will bring you confusion, not enlightenment!

 

cheers and happy new year,

Sherab

 

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, krsbunny <krsbunny wrote:

 

krsbunny <krsbunny

Re: [CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

 

Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:09 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know anything about Barbara, but I do know from other areas of my life

that sometimes things like this are more about the ego of the person writing

than a true " sharing " of information. .. and from what I have seen on this list

and from the crystals he sells, I suspect John's " read " on things is as good as

anyone's would be.

 

Kathy Smith

 

------------ -- Original message from John Van Rees <john@exquisitecryst

als.com>: ------------ --

 

Ok... everyone get ready...

 

The curmudgeon is here... :-)

 

I wouldn't place a lot of faith in what I would read

by Barbara Marcinak. I used to manage a New Age Store

about 10 years ago... we had her there for a book signing.. and she

was discussing how could write a new book that people would want...

and wondering what she should put in it. The energy wasn't clean...

she as much as said all she was interested in was selling books and

was willing to write anything that would sell books. The information in

the books was secondary to creating money...

 

The 12 chakras... or more depending on who you talk to..who needs them?

7 chakras work well for me. :-)

 

This is one of my pet peeves... New Age Voodoo/WooWoo. Sometimes

people get excited when the information is so out there... always..

here is something

new... and people go WOW... WOW.. WOW.... when there isn't anything there

at all.... just hype.

 

Just so you know.. I am not against Woo Woo... but I am against using Woo Woo

to manipulate and cajole...

 

Ok... I am going back to work now.

 

In gratitude,

 

John Van Rees

http://www.exquisit ecrystals. com

 

At 05:22 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:

 

>I have a book that talks about the 12 chakra's.

>

>8th, Buddhic Plane Chakra or called the Christ energy of

>unconditional love, associated with the higher self.

>

>9th, Atmic Plane Chakra, to make connection with the 9th,

>concentrate on cleansing more deeply with your inner world to

>balance and complete the energetic circle.

>

>10th, Logoic Plane Chakra, is the beginning of the I AM energy. The

>difference between the I AM presence and higher self is that the

>higher self resides in the fifth dimension, allows you to know your

>past lives and your purpose on earth.

>

>11th and 12th, Solar Angle and Comsmic I AM, 11th further anchors

>the I Am presence and 12th fully anchors it.

>

>Hope this answers your question.

>

>These are from a book called: Journey to Self-Enlightenment by Rose

>Sangregorio, here is her site,

><http://www.metaphys icalcenterofcana da.com/.>http://www.metaphys

icalcenterofcana da.com/.

>I've known her for about 10 years and think that she is awesome. I

>don't think you can find the book in amazon.

> Namaste, love, and light

>

>Arsi

>951-375-1140

>

>___________ _________ _________ ___

>Skye Coe <<mauiskye1% 40>mauiskye1 >

>To:

><crystalhea ling-workshop% 40. com>crystalhealing- workshop@

. com;

>Alisa

><<crystalas trology%40g roups.com>crystalastrology@ .

com>

>Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:50:34 PM

>[CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

>

>Aloha Fellow Lightworkers

>

>. . . I'm prettty close to finishing re-read of Barbara Marciniak' s

>Bringers of Dawn (Channeling of Pleaidean Energies) and wondering. . .

>

>Mention is made on pages 54-58 of Chakras 8-12 located outside body

>that are being activated in accordance of rebuilding of 12 DNA

>strands that humans once possessed and as of yet I've been unable to

>locate any information on crystals related to each.

>

>If anyone has any info or links that you can share I would be very

>grateful. . .

>

>Blissings! In Love and Light. . Hau'oli Makahiki Hao (Happy New Year!)

>

>Skye

>

>www.heartofmaui. com

>Crystals, Minerals and More

>1-808-280-3682

>

>Mahalo!

>

>

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Dear Sherab and other list folks...

 

Thanks for the input. It does seem to me that the more time ones

spends in the inner world ( Meditation and Contemplation) the

more simple their lives become.

 

My experience as a New Age store owner (before I really concentrated on

the website) and attending many New Age shows, conferences, etc...that

the people who are the most " Out There " are the ones that have done the least

inner work (ie:Therapy).

 

I believe that personal Therapy is the foundation of inner growth. Many people

want to skip the hard stuff of really looking at their core issues and skip to

the stuff that takes them out of their body...which leads to the 5th, 6th and

higher dimensions.

 

Personally, I have enough to work on in the 3rd dimensional world. :-)

 

I am NOT saying anyone is wrong for doing what they feel they need to do.

Please don't jump on me for stating my own opinion. ;-)

 

In gratitude,

 

John Van Rees

http://www.exquisitecrystals.com

 

 

 

 

 

At 12:12 AM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

 

>agree with John and Kathy.

>looking at the terms she used (Budhith and all that) - no wonder

>deep thinker like Ken Wilber doesn't agree with the whole New Age

>movement - too many people out there trying too hard to sell their

>books based on weird ideas - a mixture of everything and going nowhere.

>It will bring you confusion, not enlightenment!

>

>cheers and happy new year,

>Sherab

>

>--- On Mon, 1/5/09, <krsbunny%40att.net>krsbunny

><<krsbunny%40att.net>krsbunny wrote:

>

><krsbunny%40att.net>krsbunny

><<krsbunny%40att.net>krsbunny

>Re: [CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

>To:

><%40>@\

groups.com

>Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:09 PM

>

>I don't know anything about Barbara, but I do know from other areas

>of my life that sometimes things like this are more about the ego of

>the person writing than a true " sharing " of information. .. and from

>what I have seen on this list and from the crystals he sells, I

>suspect John's " read " on things is as good as anyone's would be.

>

>Kathy Smith

>

>------------ -- Original message from John Van Rees

><john@exquisitecryst als.com>: ------------ --

>

>Ok... everyone get ready...

>

>The curmudgeon is here... :-)

>

>I wouldn't place a lot of faith in what I would read

>by Barbara Marcinak. I used to manage a New Age Store

>about 10 years ago... we had her there for a book signing.. and she

>was discussing how could write a new book that people would want...

>and wondering what she should put in it. The energy wasn't clean...

>she as much as said all she was interested in was selling books and

>was willing to write anything that would sell books. The information in

>the books was secondary to creating money...

>

>The 12 chakras... or more depending on who you talk to..who needs them?

>7 chakras work well for me. :-)

>

>This is one of my pet peeves... New Age Voodoo/WooWoo. Sometimes

>people get excited when the information is so out there... always..

>here is something

>new... and people go WOW... WOW.. WOW.... when there isn't anything there

>at all.... just hype.

>

>Just so you know.. I am not against Woo Woo... but I am against using Woo Woo

>to manipulate and cajole...

>

>Ok... I am going back to work now.

>

>In gratitude,

>

>John Van Rees

><http://www.exquisit>http://www.exquisit ecrystals. com

>

>At 05:22 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:

>

> >I have a book that talks about the 12 chakra's.

> >

> >8th, Buddhic Plane Chakra or called the Christ energy of

> >unconditional love, associated with the higher self.

> >

> >9th, Atmic Plane Chakra, to make connection with the 9th,

> >concentrate on cleansing more deeply with your inner world to

> >balance and complete the energetic circle.

> >

> >10th, Logoic Plane Chakra, is the beginning of the I AM energy. The

> >difference between the I AM presence and higher self is that the

> >higher self resides in the fifth dimension, allows you to know your

> >past lives and your purpose on earth.

> >

> >11th and 12th, Solar Angle and Comsmic I AM, 11th further anchors

> >the I Am presence and 12th fully anchors it.

> >

> >Hope this answers your question.

> >

> >These are from a book called: Journey to Self-Enlightenment by Rose

> >Sangregorio, here is her site,

> ><<http://www.metaphys>http://www.metaphys icalcenterofcana

> da.com/.><http://www.metaphys>http://www.metaphys icalcenterofcana da.com/.

> >I've known her for about 10 years and think that she is awesome. I

> >don't think you can find the book in amazon.

> > Namaste, love, and light

> >

> >Arsi

> >951-375-1140

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> >Skye Coe <<mauiskye1% 40>mauiskye1 >

> >To:

> ><crystalhea ling-workshop% 40.

> com>crystalhealing- workshop;

> >Alisa

> ><<crystalas trology%40g roups.com>crystalastrology@

> . com>

> >Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:50:34 PM

> >[CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

> >

> >Aloha Fellow Lightworkers

> >

> >. . . I'm prettty close to finishing re-read of Barbara Marciniak' s

> >Bringers of Dawn (Channeling of Pleaidean Energies) and wondering. . .

> >

> >Mention is made on pages 54-58 of Chakras 8-12 located outside body

> >that are being activated in accordance of rebuilding of 12 DNA

> >strands that humans once possessed and as of yet I've been unable to

> >locate any information on crystals related to each.

> >

> >If anyone has any info or links that you can share I would be very

> >grateful. . .

> >

> >Blissings! In Love and Light. . Hau'oli Makahiki Hao (Happy New Year!)

> >

> >Skye

> >

> >www.heartofmaui. com

> >Crystals, Minerals and More

> >1-808-280-3682

> >

> >Mahalo!

> >

> >

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John,

 

That is funny that you mention that, because i find myself wanting to do it all

at the same time.  Maybe that's right for me and maybe it's not, it will all

come, I know that.

 

You all can let me know what you think.

 

But i do have a question for you, someone told me about boji stones, although i

have found it on line, it just never felt right getting it from someone i don't'

know.  So I was wondering if you or anyone else has ever heard of it and has any

suggestions or ideas about it does.

 

thanks,

 Namaste, love, and light

 

 

Arsi

951-375-1140

 

 

 

 

________________________________

John Van Rees <john

 

Wednesday, January 7, 2009 2:24:23 PM

Re: [CrystalHW] maybe 13-30 chakras coming soon!

 

 

Dear Sherab and other list folks...

 

Thanks for the input. It does seem to me that the more time ones

spends in the inner world ( Meditation and Contemplation) the

more simple their lives become.

 

My experience as a New Age store owner (before I really concentrated on

the website) and attending many New Age shows, conferences, etc...that

the people who are the most " Out There " are the ones that have done the least

inner work (ie:Therapy) .

 

I believe that personal Therapy is the foundation of inner growth. Many people

want to skip the hard stuff of really looking at their core issues and skip to

the stuff that takes them out of their body...which leads to the 5th, 6th and

higher dimensions.

 

Personally, I have enough to work on in the 3rd dimensional world. :-)

 

I am NOT saying anyone is wrong for doing what they feel they need to do.

Please don't jump on me for stating my own opinion. ;-)

 

In gratitude,

 

John Van Rees

http://www.exquisit ecrystals. com

 

At 12:12 AM 1/7/2009, you wrote:

 

>agree with John and Kathy.

>looking at the terms she used (Budhith and all that) - no wonder

>deep thinker like Ken Wilber doesn't agree with the whole New Age

>movement - too many people out there trying too hard to sell their

>books based on weird ideas - a mixture of everything and going nowhere.

>It will bring you confusion, not enlightenment!

>

>cheers and happy new year,

>Sherab

>

>--- On Mon, 1/5/09, <krsbunny% 40att.net>krsbunny (AT) att (DOT) net

><<krsbunny% 40att.net>krsbunny (AT) att (DOT) net> wrote:

>

><krsbunny% 40att.net>krsbunny (AT) att (DOT) net

><<krsbunny% 40att.net>krsbunny (AT) att (DOT) net>

>Re: [CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

>To:

><CrystalHea ling-workshop% 40. com>CrystalHealing- workshop@

. com

>Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:09 PM

>

>I don't know anything about Barbara, but I do know from other areas

>of my life that sometimes things like this are more about the ego of

>the person writing than a true " sharing " of information. .. and from

>what I have seen on this list and from the crystals he sells, I

>suspect John's " read " on things is as good as anyone's would be.

>

>Kathy Smith

>

>----------- - -- Original message from John Van Rees

><john@exquisitecry st als.com>: ------------ --

>

>Ok... everyone get ready...

>

>The curmudgeon is here... :-)

>

>I wouldn't place a lot of faith in what I would read

>by Barbara Marcinak. I used to manage a New Age Store

>about 10 years ago... we had her there for a book signing.. and she

>was discussing how could write a new book that people would want...

>and wondering what she should put in it. The energy wasn't clean...

>she as much as said all she was interested in was selling books and

>was willing to write anything that would sell books. The information in

>the books was secondary to creating money...

>

>The 12 chakras... or more depending on who you talk to..who needs them?

>7 chakras work well for me. :-)

>

>This is one of my pet peeves... New Age Voodoo/WooWoo. Sometimes

>people get excited when the information is so out there... always..

>here is something

>new... and people go WOW... WOW.. WOW.... when there isn't anything there

>at all.... just hype.

>

>Just so you know.. I am not against Woo Woo... but I am against using Woo Woo

>to manipulate and cajole...

>

>Ok... I am going back to work now.

>

>In gratitude,

>

>John Van Rees

><http://www.exquisit>http://www.exquisit ecrystals. com

>

>At 05:22 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:

>

> >I have a book that talks about the 12 chakra's.

> >

> >8th, Buddhic Plane Chakra or called the Christ energy of

> >unconditional love, associated with the higher self.

> >

> >9th, Atmic Plane Chakra, to make connection with the 9th,

> >concentrate on cleansing more deeply with your inner world to

> >balance and complete the energetic circle.

> >

> >10th, Logoic Plane Chakra, is the beginning of the I AM energy. The

> >difference between the I AM presence and higher self is that the

> >higher self resides in the fifth dimension, allows you to know your

> >past lives and your purpose on earth.

> >

> >11th and 12th, Solar Angle and Comsmic I AM, 11th further anchors

> >the I Am presence and 12th fully anchors it.

> >

> >Hope this answers your question.

> >

> >These are from a book called: Journey to Self-Enlightenment by Rose

> >Sangregorio, here is her site,

> ><<http://www.metaphys>http://www.metaphys icalcenterofcana

> da.com/.><http://www.metaphys>http://www.metaphys icalcenterofcana da.com/.

> >I've known her for about 10 years and think that she is awesome. I

> >don't think you can find the book in amazon.

> > Namaste, love, and light

> >

> >Arsi

> >951-375-1140

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> >Skye Coe <<mauiskye1% 40> mauiskye1>

> >To:

> ><crystalhea ling-workshop% 40.

> com>crystalhealing- workshop;

> >Alisa

> ><<crystalas trology%40g roups.com>crystalas trology@

> . com>

> >Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:50:34 PM

> >[CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

> >

> >Aloha Fellow Lightworkers

> >

> >. . . I'm prettty close to finishing re-read of Barbara Marciniak' s

> >Bringers of Dawn (Channeling of Pleaidean Energies) and wondering. . .

> >

> >Mention is made on pages 54-58 of Chakras 8-12 located outside body

> >that are being activated in accordance of rebuilding of 12 DNA

> >strands that humans once possessed and as of yet I've been unable to

> >locate any information on crystals related to each.

> >

> >If anyone has any info or links that you can share I would be very

> >grateful. . .

> >

> >Blissings! In Love and Light. . Hau'oli Makahiki Hao (Happy New Year!)

> >

> >Skye

> >

> >www.heartofmaui. com

> >Crystals, Minerals and More

> >1-808-280-3682

> >

> >Mahalo!

> >

> >

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Re : Marcinak

 

I have found a tremendous coherency in her presentation of the idea of

Prime Creators and Free Will zones in the universe

 

it has bridged a lot of confusion that more flakey and emotional ideas

stemming from western religious thought

 

i enjoyed the bringers of the dawn youtube discussions quite a lot.

, Wong Wei

<sherablotsawa wrote:

>

> agree with John and Kathy.

> looking at the terms she used (Budhith and all that) - no wonder

deep thinker like Ken Wilber doesn't agree with the whole New Age

movement - too many people out there trying too hard to sell their

books based on weird ideas - a mixture of everything and going nowhere.

> It will bring you confusion, not enlightenment!

>  

> cheers and happy new year,

> Sherab

>

> --- On Mon, 1/5/09, krsbunny <krsbunny wrote:

>

> krsbunny <krsbunny

> Re: [CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

>

> Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:09 PM

I don't know anything about Barbara, but I do know from other areas

of my life that sometimes things like this are more about the ego of

the person writing than a true " sharing " of information. .. and from

what I have seen on this list and from the crystals he sells, I

suspect John's " read " on things is as good as anyone's would be.

>

> Kathy Smith

>

> ------------ -- Original message from John Van Rees

<john@exquisitecryst als.com>: ------------ --

>

> Ok... everyone get ready...

>

> The curmudgeon is here... :-)

>

> I wouldn't place a lot of faith in what I would read

> by Barbara Marcinak. I used to manage a New Age Store

> about 10 years ago... we had her there for a book signing.. and she

> was discussing how could write a new book that people would want...

> and wondering what she should put in it. The energy wasn't clean...

> she as much as said all she was interested in was selling books and

> was willing to write anything that would sell books. The information in

> the books was secondary to creating money...

>

> The 12 chakras... or more depending on who you talk to..who needs them?

> 7 chakras work well for me. :-)

>

> This is one of my pet peeves... New Age Voodoo/WooWoo. Sometimes

> people get excited when the information is so out there... always..

> here is something

> new... and people go WOW... WOW.. WOW.... when there isn't anything

there

> at all.... just hype.

>

> Just so you know.. I am not against Woo Woo... but I am against

using Woo Woo

> to manipulate and cajole...

>

> Ok... I am going back to work now.

>

> In gratitude,

>

> John Van Rees

> http://www.exquisit ecrystals. com

>

> At 05:22 PM 1/5/2009, you wrote:

>

> >I have a book that talks about the 12 chakra's.

> >

> >8th, Buddhic Plane Chakra or called the Christ energy of

> >unconditional love, associated with the higher self.

> >

> >9th, Atmic Plane Chakra, to make connection with the 9th,

> >concentrate on cleansing more deeply with your inner world to

> >balance and complete the energetic circle.

> >

> >10th, Logoic Plane Chakra, is the beginning of the I AM energy. The

> >difference between the I AM presence and higher self is that the

> >higher self resides in the fifth dimension, allows you to know your

> >past lives and your purpose on earth.

> >

> >11th and 12th, Solar Angle and Comsmic I AM, 11th further anchors

> >the I Am presence and 12th fully anchors it.

> >

> >Hope this answers your question.

> >

> >These are from a book called: Journey to Self-Enlightenment by Rose

> >Sangregorio, here is her site,

> ><http://www.metaphys icalcenterofcana da.com/.>http://www.metaphys

icalcenterofcana da.com/.

> >I've known her for about 10 years and think that she is awesome. I

> >don't think you can find the book in amazon.

> > Namaste, love, and light

> >

> >Arsi

> >951-375-1140

> >

> >___________ _________ _________ ___

> >Skye Coe <<mauiskye1% 40>mauiskye1 >

> >To:

> ><crystalhea ling-workshop% 40.

com>crystalhealing- workshop;

> >Alisa

> ><<crystalas trology%40g roups.com>crystalastrology@

. com>

> >Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:50:34 PM

> >[CrystalHW] Crystal for 8-12 Chakras??

> >

> >Aloha Fellow Lightworkers

> >

> >. . . I'm prettty close to finishing re-read of Barbara Marciniak' s

> >Bringers of Dawn (Channeling of Pleaidean Energies) and wondering. . .

> >

> >Mention is made on pages 54-58 of Chakras 8-12 located outside body

> >that are being activated in accordance of rebuilding of 12 DNA

> >strands that humans once possessed and as of yet I've been unable to

> >locate any information on crystals related to each.

> >

> >If anyone has any info or links that you can share I would be very

> >grateful. . .

> >

> >Blissings! In Love and Light. . Hau'oli Makahiki Hao (Happy New Year!)

> >

> >Skye

> >

> >www.heartofmaui. com

> >Crystals, Minerals and More

> >1-808-280-3682

> >

> >Mahalo!

> >

> >

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