I need help

December 13, 2002

At 6:13 AM -0500 12/13/02, Sharon Weizenbaum wrote:

>1) I have a patient whose abdominal wall split during pregnancy from her

>umbilicus to about CV 13. Her intestines pop out when she eats too much.

>It is actually the facia that has stretched and nothing is actually torn.

>Is it possible to draw the facia tighter? She is willing to do internal and

>external bulk herbs.

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As you probably know, but others may not, the condition is called

diastasis recti, where the rectus abdominis separates during

pregnancy, (or abdominal surgery). The muscles should normally knit

back together postpartum, but may not do so in women who gain a lot

of weight during pregnancy, or who have weak abdominal muscles.

3 questions:

How long postpartum is she?

How much weight did she gain during pregnancy?

How big was the baby?

Exercises and surgery are the probably best options. Given the nature

of the problem, it seems unlikely that herbs could cure it, but it

would be very interesting if anyone has successful experience, or

even if they've tried and failed. The issue is getting the muscles

that are normally separated in pregnancy, but in this case have not

knitted back together, to do so. I know of a surgeon in NY who puts

in a mesh to prevent extrusion of the intestine -- I'm told it's a

simple outpatient procedure.

Rory

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December 13, 2002

I haven't treated this type of condition, although I think it is

probably more common than people think. I had a visiting patient from

N.Y. who had an abdomen like this since childbirth 9 years ago, with no

muscle tone, severely bloated, overweight. I wonder if this happened

to her.

This would probably be in the realm of tui shan, or bulging mounting

disorder. I would consider using medicinals to raise clear yang, as

the spleen qi is clearly weakened, such as huang qi, sheng ma, and

perhaps chai hu (from bu zhong yi qi tang), along with medicinals to

warm the liver channel, such as xiao hui xiang, and possibly wu yao.

This all, of course, would depend on your pattern diagnosis, tongue and

pulse.

This could be combined with Rory's suggestion of a mesh 'implant',

depending on the severity of the condition.

On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 03:13 AM, Sharon Weizenbaum wrote:

> 1) I have a patient whose abdominal wall split during pregnancy from

> her

> umbilicus to about CV 13. Her intestines pop out when she eats too

> much.

> It is actually the facia that has stretched and nothing is actually

> torn.

> Is it possible to draw the facia tighter? She is willing to do

> internal and

> external bulk herbs.

December 13, 2002

I consulted with Dr. Bo-yin Li (I think it is the same one, Bo-in Lee?)

in the late 1970's. He was already working with cancer patients at

that point. I remember him as being rather eclectic, combining

nine-star qi astrology with macrobiotics, plus Chinese herbal medicine

and acupuncture. A very interesting man, but he does have long

experience with cancer patients, focusing on healthy life-style. Nice

to hear he is still in practice.

On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 03:13 AM, Sharon Weizenbaum wrote:

> 3) Does anyone know any experienced and wonderful TCM oncologist in the

> Boston Area? Does anyone have any experience with Dr. Bo-Yin Li?

December 13, 2002

My NY office location is on the same floor with Maternal Fitness, a

pregnancy and post-partum education and exercise center. Diastasis

is extremely common. While the case you describe seems extreme, many

women with diastasis of 10 finger-widths have been resolved with

proper breathing exercises and strengthening up the kidneys and

middle burner. MaternalFitness.com has information on the breathing

exercises. The phone number there is 212-353-1947. They sell tapes,

videos, etc. describing the exercise.

, Rory Kerr <rorykerr@w...>

wrote:

> At 6:13 AM -0500 12/13/02, Sharon Weizenbaum wrote:

> >1) I have a patient whose abdominal wall split during pregnancy

from her

> >umbilicus to about CV 13. Her intestines pop out when she eats

too much.

> >It is actually the facia that has stretched and nothing is

actually torn.

> >Is it possible to draw the facia tighter? She is willing to do

internal and

> >external bulk herbs.

> --

>

> As you probably know, but others may not, the condition is called

> diastasis recti, where the rectus abdominis separates during

> pregnancy, (or abdominal surgery). The muscles should normally knit

> back together postpartum, but may not do so in women who gain a lot

> of weight during pregnancy, or who have weak abdominal muscles.

>

> 3 questions:

>

> How long postpartum is she?

>

> How much weight did she gain during pregnancy?

>

> How big was the baby?

>

> Exercises and surgery are the probably best options. Given the

nature

> of the problem, it seems unlikely that herbs could cure it, but it

> would be very interesting if anyone has successful experience, or

> even if they've tried and failed. The issue is getting the muscles

> that are normally separated in pregnancy, but in this case have not

> knitted back together, to do so. I know of a surgeon in NY who puts

> in a mesh to prevent extrusion of the intestine -- I'm told it's a

> simple outpatient procedure.

>

> Rory

>

> --

September 24, 2005

I had three misses first - turns out we had an 'abo incompatiability' - husband

a positive -

i was o positive - some weird factor - supposed to only happen in one of of four

pregnancies if you have this - it happened to me five out of five.

might be worth asking about a-b-o incompatabilty just in case?

December 17, 2008

Greetings Again!

First off I LOVE this group, and value all the knowledge that I have

gained since I began. With that being said...

I am trying to return to my old self. Prior to my children and

marriage, I had many things that were very important to me. One I had

my children and got married all of my time and focus was spent on

them and I let myself and the things that were impoartant to me

subside. Now that my children are a little older and more self

suffient and my husband is being so supportive, I am looking to dig

me up again. I am very spiritual by background, I inherited alot of

abilities of my grandfather. I have a strong belief in many cultures

and ways of following my third eye. I used to be a vegitatrian for 11

years and once I gave birth to my first daughter I wanted her to get

all the nutrients from breast feeding that I couldn't provive due to

my own diet. Now 5 years later I am soul seraching to restore me. So

where I need help... I need to know if there is anything out there

(crystals, herbs, elixers, thought, etc) that will help me become

more centered in finding my way. I read a FANTASTIC book that started

my journey and now I'm ready to make the life change.

Just as FYI, I'm not looking for any solicitaions, just true

believers that really have some insight to what I'm going through.

Thank You,

Aja

December 18, 2008

Good Morning Aja,

Well for starts let crystal healing and collecting be a journey. Look for

pieces that speak to you and you will enjoy having them around for a long

time....they will have immeasurable value. And sometimes instead of finding the

answers in a book...trust your intuition and then compare with other wisdom.

You will have many many aha's. Go to a rock shop or rock show in your

area....that is always amazing. Learn the basic rules...and there are

few....for clearing, sending energy and other healings...... This site has many

great healers...and Peggy, the site founder and moderator, has records stored in

her archives that will teach you more than most books.

As for herbs and things...that may need to be specific for your body type....you

may want to know your blood type...have a vedic or chinese pulse diagnosis done

and then work with those recommendations. You are very much an individual.

So enjoy your journey and keep us posted.

Blessings,

Dawn Silver

Jewels of the Lotus Oracle

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