Has anyone have any resources on.......

[Guest guest]

scientific proof on crystals and their healing qualities.

I met a skeptic when I talked about how Charolite is good for.....

Just curious. This person doesn't believe that crystals can heal and

it is only a marketing ploy to get people to buy crystals.

 

Is there anyway I can prove this person wrong?

 

Linda

[Guest guest]

Linda,

 

I am afraid that someone like that isn't going to listen to you no matter

what you do...

 

As Jesus said... " Don't caste pearls before swine " .

 

In gratitude,

 

John Van Rees

http://www.exquisitecrystals.com

 

At 01:33 PM 11/30/2008, you wrote:

 

>scientific proof on crystals and their healing qualities.

>I met a skeptic when I talked about how Charolite is good for.....

>Just curious. This person doesn't believe that crystals can heal and

>it is only a marketing ploy to get people to buy crystals.

>

>Is there anyway I can prove this person wrong?

>

>Linda

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Linda,

 

This is a huge subject for me and I only have a bit of time right now.  First is

to understand that we are living crystals made of the very same molecular

structures as crystal with the addition of our brand of consciousness....this is

found in the similarities in the quartz crystal...the most ubiquitious

crystal.....which is always hexagonal in shape in it's lattice structure....this

same pattern repeats itself in the beehive...where the components are always

hexagonal, your skin cells, a diatom, the back of a turtles back and so

on......minerals and metals in same compounds will arrange themselves the

same...  Also silica and oxygen...the main components of quartz form the outer

coverings...like the outer covering of this planet, the beehive, your skin and

even the outer covering of bones deep in your body...but silica will rise to the

top.....and therefore repesents consciousness and shaping. So in general things

found in nature are not

random...there is a pattern to the universe.  And it behooves us to look at all

life this way for when consciouness recedes it is ashes to ashes ...dust to

dust....  But we are never seperate...we are all made from the same energy that

guides this wonderful universe and universes.

 

If your body is low in iron you can eat foods rich in iron, you can take them in

supplement form or you can wear them in gemstone form and absorb the energy

through the skin.....no different then being in an area rich in magnetic energy

and feeling a bit sick to the stomach around an abundance of magnetism......you

will feel the effects just in different proportions based on the potency.  The

skin is not an absolute barrier.  If it was you could not have benefits from

radiation or be harmed by too much...even sun poisoning.....or get sick from the

effects of drinking out of a pewter cup (tin poisoning...big in the middle

ages).

 

There are soooo many examples.

And while I am sure you friend is a wonderful friend you should not feel the

need to prove it to them.  It is good to be a skeptic as there is a lot of hype

out there.  It is just that it is very close-minded to be sure something is

" not " ....without having done the work to prove it is non existent......and that

is the way science is suppose to work.  I always start out to assume that

someone knows something about a subject when they claim it does not work. 

Otherwise it is a baseless opinion. Possibly most of us have been guilty of that

before...just we need to be mindful. And I believe your friend would

benefit...maybe the world as well...by him putting his curiosity into action.

 

Anyways even though we can see the effects of electricity we cannot prove it's

existence andymore than we can prove the wind...but we know it when we feel it. 

Things not seen can be a cause for a particular result.  Just like proving the

universal cause and effect of the divine life force called god......and yet the

proof of this great organizing capacity of cause and effect...yin and yang...all

all around us and include us.

 

Enjoy the night,

Dawn Silver

Jewels of the Lotus Oracle

 

 

 

--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Linda <lmsroka wrote:

 

Linda <lmsroka

[CrystalHW] Has anyone have any resources on.......

 

Sunday, November 30, 2008, 3:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

scientific proof on crystals and their healing qualities.

I met a skeptic when I talked about how Charolite is good for.....

Just curious. This person doesn't believe that crystals can heal and

it is only a marketing ploy to get people to buy crystals.

 

Is there anyway I can prove this person wrong?

 

Linda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

don't waste your energy.

 

Muriel

, " Linda " <lmsroka

wrote:

>

> scientific proof on crystals and their healing qualities.

> I met a skeptic when I talked about how Charolite is good for.....

> Just curious. This person doesn't believe that crystals can heal and

> it is only a marketing ploy to get people to buy crystals.

>

> Is there anyway I can prove this person wrong?

>

> Linda

>

[Guest guest]

Linda,

 

It is not a waste of time to express your opinion to someone but don't

spend a lot of time on skeptics. They will always be skeptical, you

could give them a 400 page report on the healing powers of crystals

and they will tell you that it can't be that way and those who put the

report together where just looking for those out comes. It is like

anything in this world. One says there is a God that a baby survived

the car accident another says there is no God it's mother was killed.

One says Jesus used reiki another says Jesus tells us not to use

reiki. Someone says they are just rocks, we say we feel their energy.

What it really is about is intention. I intend to feel the energy of

my stones and crystals I intend for them to do their job and help heal

that which needs healing. Someone that doesn't believe in them is not

going to get the results I do because they are shut off to the idea

and the intention of the power of crystals. Use your crystals, grow

your knowledge, spread your understand to those who will listen but

there will always be those that will not understand because they are

not ready for that information.

 

Jessica

[Guest guest]

Hi! Written Proof is out there. Feel the Proof is better. Gift a Stone

that wants to go to him or The exercize I did when I first realized this

Truth: Have them rub their hands together then feel the energy --

continue to do this until the size of a Basketball --- then place a

Crystal in their hand. Bam! realize the Crystal may want to stay with

them.

LOL,

Karen

, " Linda " <lmsroka

wrote:

>

> scientific proof on crystals and their healing qualities.

> I met a skeptic when I talked about how Charolite is good for.....

 

>

> Linda

>

[Guest guest]

Ok...some thoughts for you.

First off I live by the old saying....would love to know who said it. " When the

student is ready , the Teacher will appear. " To me this says alot. If a person

is not open to the idea of healing via stone energy then that person will view

that sellers are fake. This person should not look toward them for answers.

Perhaps he or she should look to see if they themselves believe in energy flow

at all first. If so, then perhaps they could sense healing via some stone that

they...they ...connect with .

For me, it all started by a loan of an amethyst geod slice . My herbalist had

this stone gifted to her from a Buddist monk. Now that made little sense to me

at the time but since I had cancer and was to have surgery to remove my kidney

along with the grapefruit size malignant tumor I was grateful for anything

offered. It was after surgery ...after being cut in half...that I was in my room

having huge pain spasms that bypassed morphine like water passes over your

hands. I would doze off only to be bolted awake by a spasm that was so bad I

could not even breathe. Well, at somepoint I took the amethyst in my hand and

was just looking at it and dozed off again. When I awoke with another spasm I

noted that one section was having no pain at all. It was where my hand had

rested holding the amethyst. Well, you can imagine what I did for the next

hours, right?

I became a believer and from this one huge experience of being almost forced

to admit that stones have energy I was catapulted into the land of crystals and

stones. Of course, this person would not need this but he or she would have to

have their own , their very own, experience of sensing something coming from a

stone to be motivated to go further. Anyway, the stone spirits know this person

and offer their loving energy flow anyway. In fact, our Mother offers her love

to us at any moment right there under our feet.

I believe that there are many all around us holding us in their

unconditional love. They do not place conditions on us to continue to send us

help. They do wait , however, in patient love until the moment comes that we can

begin to see. It sounds like your friend has some well thought out blocks to

just jump in. So, offer them something slowly ...maybe agreeing with them about

sellers needing to promote their goods...but perhaps offering the idea that

perhaps there might be something worth investigating via simply by enjoying the

color ,texture, " feel " of a stone. Let them connect via the physical first, like

liking the sensation of a posished stone or the beauty of a carved stone , for

eg. I used the stones to massage my hubby's neck and temples at first . The

sensation of enjoyment was powerful enough for him to them begin to tell me

.... " Well, this one feels good. " This launched him into being my " giger counter " .

I would hold the stone by his neck or above his palm and ask him, " What do you

feel from this one? " He would then tell me...I don't feel anything or that that

one felt good. This progressed to him getting a shiver when I would hold one by

his neck. I kept asking HIM and that led him gently to a place where his input

to me was giving him his own conclusions but without my input. Can you see where

this leads? Well, it LEADS...and so it was sort of like the carrot idea.

Meanwhile I was already having my own experiences so I would definitely use

the stones I had already sensed were strong to " test " with him.

Now, the end result is that we have a home full of stones, a Medicine Wheel

made of Crystals, a Kiva he made that is housed with energy altars. We have a

laberinth having stones along the way and just two days ago, this hubby of mine

got on a ladder and was placing crystals I handed him into a socket in our seven

trunk oak tree to fill what looks like an eye on the matriarch trunk. I never

ever thought that he would get so enthusiastic back when.

All this was a bunch of ever so gentle nudges ....way better than my

awakening...ha ha.

I hope this might help. But in the meantime I know that the stone people are

smiling on your friend. Judy

 

 

[Guest guest]

Blessings

I just wanted to thank all who responded to my question. I was just wondering.

I agree with all that was said. I know this person likes rocks like I do. She

said she believes that they have energy like all things, but not the healing

aspects of them.

 

Anyway, I do like the idea of gifting one and see what happens. I have an idea

of how to do this too.

 

Judy, I am sorry that you had to go through so much pain and all. I know it is

part of your journey and growth, but hugs to you all the same.

 

I like the phrase feel proof, Karen. I still have trouble with making an energy

ball.

I am still working on quieting my mind. LOL

I do feel some engery from some crystals but all the time. I know when I put a

variety of them in a crytal bowl from Poland and put it on my solar plexus, the

bowl would get warm.

Of course I do Reiki too.

 

Thank you so much for all your insights and valid points. I do appreciate all of

your suggestions.  hugs

 

Linda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

For the energy ball - see if this helps you  Rub your hands together, then

gently press the center of your palms (to activate your hand chakra's) place

your hands about 6 to 8 inches apart and your should feel the energy.  Then move

your hands around in the shape of a ball.

then place yourself inside the energy ball.

 

(to test if you feel energy - after making the ball - place it on the floor and

then put your hands back 6 to 8 inches apart - you then shouldn' feel anything

between your hands - for you moved the energy when you put the ball down)

 

EVERYTHING is by visualization and intent - so keep up doing it in your mind -

that is fantastic.

 

Blesssings.

 

Rebecca

 

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Linda Peterson <lmsroka wrote:

 

Linda Peterson <lmsroka

[CrystalHW] Re: Has anyone have any resources on.......

 

Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 8:55 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blessings

I just wanted to thank all who responded to my question. I was just wondering.

I agree with all that was said. I know this person likes rocks like I do. She

said she believes that they have energy like all things, but not the healing

aspects of them.

 

Anyway, I do like the idea of gifting one and see what happens. I have an idea

of how to do this too.

 

Judy, I am sorry that you had to go through so much pain and all. I know it is

part of your journey and growth, but hugs to you all the same.

 

I like the phrase feel proof, Karen. I still have trouble with making an energy

ball.

I am still working on quieting my mind. LOL

I do feel some engery from some crystals but all the time. I know when I put a

variety of them in a crytal bowl from Poland and put it on my solar plexus, the

bowl would get warm.

Of course I do Reiki too.

 

Thank you so much for all your insights and valid points. I do appreciate all of

your suggestions.  hugs

 

Linda

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Linda.....that is great about your friend loving rocks as you do.  Well the

energy of the stones will work whether she is aware of it or not....and

also...love and beauty ( and true enjoyment) are very important energies that

raise the vibrational level and will (inadvert to her beliefs) keep her safer

from certain lower vibrational manisfestations...again ...working despite fixed

opinions she may hold.  Everything is energy and we are all interconnected thru

energy (the string theory)....

You know in my early days with buying and selling crystals I made friends with a

well known geologist,miner, purveryor and often quoted (in National Geographics)

man.  He used to sell me amazing quartz points a good 8 to 10 plus inches long

and thick and clear for about $5 each (ahhh the good ole' days).  He used to

joke with me about it all being junk quartz (an interesting thing cause science

has been recently throwing around the term junk silica as of late).  About two

years later (25 years ago) when I ran into him in Tuscon he had two of his big

quartz points in his hands and exclaimed that he could feel the energy pulsing

thru his hands.  It was a great moment for us both.

Just in medical healing alone quartz and other crystals such as diamonds, rubies

and sapphires have played a great role...without them many technological healing

eaffects could not happen...like lasers.  You may want to share that with your

friend.

Be Blessed and enjoy the day,

Dawn Silver

Jewels of the Lotus Oracle

 

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Linda Peterson <lmsroka wrote:

 

Linda Peterson <lmsroka

[CrystalHW] Re: Has anyone have any resources on.......

 

Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:55 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Blessings

I just wanted to thank all who responded to my question. I was just wondering.

I agree with all that was said. I know this person likes rocks like I do. She

said she believes that they have energy like all things, but not the healing

aspects of them.

 

Anyway, I do like the idea of gifting one and see what happens. I have an idea

of how to do this too.

 

Judy, I am sorry that you had to go through so much pain and all. I know it is

part of your journey and growth, but hugs to you all the same.

 

I like the phrase feel proof, Karen. I still have trouble with making an energy

ball.

I am still working on quieting my mind. LOL

I do feel some engery from some crystals but all the time. I know when I put a

variety of them in a crytal bowl from Poland and put it on my solar plexus, the

bowl would get warm.

Of course I do Reiki too.

 

Thank you so much for all your insights and valid points. I do appreciate all of

your suggestions.  hugs

 

Linda