Citrine... not

[Guest guest]

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

[Guest guest]

Do you have a picture or can you send a link to the auction with a picture?

 

I've heard rumors that there are Ebayers from China selling tinted glass as

crystals.

 

There are two types of citrine commonly found for sale. Natural citrine,

which is usually a light golden or yellow color, and heat-treated (or

common) citrine, which is amethyist that has been heated until the purple

color breaks down and turns into a bright yellow/gold color. Both are

" citrine " but they have different vibrations.

 

- Amy

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:05 AM, briarwoodpups <briarwoodpups

wrote:

 

> Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

> of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

> these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

> were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

> of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

> care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

>

> I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

> report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

> work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

> other things to do if those don't work

>

> jayne

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Jayne,

 

This is a great example of why I don't like Ebay. For people who are not

familiar with crystals and minerals or who are new ... there are just as many

ebay dealers who also don't really have any idea of what they are doing.. and

frankly don't care. Ebay is hyped way too much as a way for almost

everyone to create lots of extra money.

 

I am sorry to hear about your situation... it's not your fault you got

something you didn't plan on. If they are dyed.. and from China

you have a good chance of something being wrong.. you are pretty much

stuck with them the way they are. You can cleanse them... but you won't

be able to transform them back... especially if they are ground up and

re-formed.

 

I have seen these (to me) ugly citrines from China that are a greenish color...

and I don't think they are natural. Even I got suckered in Tucson a few years

ago buying Green Quartz that was dyed... I so wanted it to be natural

that I gave

them the benefit of the doubt... but it was dyed... oh well.. we live

and learn.

 

Thanks for giving me the inspiration to vent a bit. :-)

 

In gratitude,

 

John

 

At 06:05 AM 6/25/2008, you wrote:

 

>Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

>of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

>these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

>were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

>of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

>care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

>

>I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

>report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

>work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

>other things to do if those don't work

>

>jayne

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jayne,

I am betting that the citrine you have a not dyed but are irradiated. This is

very common, more often than not, with citrine. They start off as amethyst and

are heat treated to alter the color. They do this very commonly to get ametrines

and with blue topaz. It intensifies the color. It is not always easy to get

natural citrine. I have a few amazing pieces but they are expensive as well.

You could bury them in salt but also nice is salted water in the sun or moon

light with that drop of rescue remedy you have. Say a loving invocation when

you do about allowing them to be as they are or as they prefer to be......but

all you see is their beauty.

What you need to know is that over time, in the earth and with the natural

radiation of the earth...amethyst will turn to citrine. The only difference is

someone irradiated your citrines not in the earth.....

Blessings and hugs and find the magic in the wonderful pieces you have,

Dawn Silver

Jewels of the Lotus Oracle

briarwoodpups <briarwoodpups wrote:

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Jayne,

 

Did you muscle test to see if you were compatible with these crystals

first? We don't have lots of crystal shops here, so I buy online, but

muscle test first. Some look gorgeous, but they just don't test strong

for me.

 

Also, I don't clean or clear with salt anymore. I use sunlight, or

moonlight, or both. I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the

crystals in. It is cheap enough, and when they have been buried for 24

hours, I throw out the rice.

 

Good luck clearing, and I hope your crystals work out.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, briarwoodpups wrote:

 

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Could it be that they're heated amethyst? That makes the browny citrine

doesn't it, rather than the bright yellow and white?

Katy (UK) x

 

 

On 25/06/2008, briarwoodpups <briarwoodpups wrote:

>

> Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

> of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

> these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

> were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

> of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

> care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

>

> I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

> report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

> work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

> other things to do if those don't work

>

> jayne

> .

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If it's ok for me to ask....What do you mean by muscle test?

                                       Sassi

 

 

 

 

Pat Hoffert <patricia.hoffert

 

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:47:32 PM

RE: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

 

 

Jayne,

 

Did you muscle test to see if you were compatible with these crystals

first? We don't have lots of crystal shops here, so I buy online, but

muscle test first. Some look gorgeous, but they just don't test strong

for me.

 

Also, I don't clean or clear with salt anymore. I use sunlight, or

moonlight, or both. I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the

crystals in. It is cheap enough, and when they have been buried for 24

hours, I throw out the rice.

 

Good luck clearing, and I hope your crystals work out.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, briarwoodpups wrote:

 

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sassi,

 

It is a form of kineseology. You can either use your fingers (there are

2 ways that I know to do this) - one is a rubbing of the thumb and

middle (fire) finger. If the answer no, the rub is very smooth. If the

answer is yes, it is a sticky, dragy thing. Or then you can join your

pinky (baby) finger and thumb of your non-dominant hand and in the

center of this circle, join your index finger with your thumb and make

another circle. If the answer is no for me than the index finger and

thumb come apart. If the answer is yes for me, I couldn't break the

bond between my thumb and my index finger with a hammer!! Or your could

use a pendulum also for answers. There are also other methods of

deviceless dowsing, like blinking, etc, but I have not had success with

them.

 

Was I clear? I could show you what I do - it is hard to explain.

 

Try both ways that I suggested, and let me know how you make out. Ask

about your supplements, you food and beverages, etc to practice.

 

Take care.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:25 PM, sassi kass wrote:

 

If it's ok for me to ask....What do you mean by muscle test?

                                      

Sassi

 

 

Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia.hoffert >

CrystalHealing- workshop

 

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:47:32 PM

RE: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

Jayne,

 

Did you muscle test to see if you were compatible with these crystals

first? We don't have lots of crystal shops here, so I buy online, but

muscle test first. Some look gorgeous, but they just don't test strong

for me.

 

Also, I don't clean or clear with salt anymore. I use sunlight, or

moonlight, or both. I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the

crystals in. It is cheap enough, and when they have been buried for 24

hours, I throw out the rice.

 

Good luck clearing, and I hope your crystals work out.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, briarwoodpups wrote:

 

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/25/2008 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

patricia.hoffert writes:

 

I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the crystals in. It is cheap

enough, and when they have been buried for 24 hours, I throw out the rice.

 

 

No offence Pat but I find this practice to be in bad taste on a few levels.

 

One it is a waste of a food substance when many people around the world only

wish they had rice to eat.

 

Two rice prices are increasing, so it is not as cheap as using good ole

fashion dirt from one's yard.

 

Three the reason people quit throwing rice at weddings (and have started

using bird seed) was because of the harm it was found doing to birds. Birds will

gorge on rice much like seeds. They are small so they can eat plenty of them.

THe problem arises in the stomach once moisture combines with the rice and

it begins to expand. I have heard that birds have died because of this.

 

Personally, I would never use rice in such a fashion.

 

Blessings to your eve all.

ReNau

 

 

" Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain "

" Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon "

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Maybe you were meant to get these little ones to help them heal-

 

I use moonlight to clear my crystals; I just set them out during the

full moon. You could also bury them in Mother Earth and let her heal them.

 

You could also hold them and sit with them for a while, and see what

impressions you get. You have love and light within you to give to

them, and then you may also get " magic " from them.

 

Let us know how it goes!

 

Cindy

[Guest guest]

I think I get it Pat! That's interesting...I never heard of that before!

Pendulum yes but, using your fingers no. I'll have to check it out! Thanks for

sharing that!

                      Sassi

 

 

 

 

Pat Hoffert <patricia.hoffert

 

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:48:57 PM

Re: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

 

 

Sassi,

 

It is a form of kineseology. You can either use your fingers (there are

2 ways that I know to do this) - one is a rubbing of the thumb and

middle (fire) finger. If the answer no, the rub is very smooth. If the

answer is yes, it is a sticky, dragy thing. Or then you can join your

pinky (baby) finger and thumb of your non-dominant hand and in the

center of this circle, join your index finger with your thumb and make

another circle. If the answer is no for me than the index finger and

thumb come apart. If the answer is yes for me, I couldn't break the

bond between my thumb and my index finger with a hammer!! Or your could

use a pendulum also for answers. There are also other methods of

deviceless dowsing, like blinking, etc, but I have not had success with

them.

 

Was I clear? I could show you what I do - it is hard to explain.

 

Try both ways that I suggested, and let me know how you make out. Ask

about your supplements, you food and beverages, etc to practice.

 

Take care.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:25 PM, sassi kass wrote:

 

If it's ok for me to ask....What do you mean by muscle test?

                                       Sassi

 

 

Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net> >

CrystalHealing- workshop

<CrystalHealing- workshop>

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:47:32 PM

RE: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

Jayne,

 

Did you muscle test to see if you were compatible with these crystals

first? We don't have lots of crystal shops here, so I buy online, but

muscle test first. Some look gorgeous, but they just don't test strong

for me.

 

Also, I don't clean or clear with salt anymore. I use sunlight, or

moonlight, or both. I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the

crystals in. It is cheap enough, and when they have been buried for 24

hours, I throw out the rice.

 

Good luck clearing, and I hope your crystals work out.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, briarwoodpups wrote:

 

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

 

I had a go at these, as I've been to see a kineseologist practioner in the

past a few times and was fascinated how my body gave her answers. I've heard

of the two circles for self-muscle testing before but I can't seem to make

this work reliably for me. I wonder if it's because I'm trying to contol it

or something, rather being able to relax into it.

 

I've just recently started using a pendulum and sometimes the answers are

very obvious and sometimes I struggle with it a bit. But this is for me the

most reliable way I've found so far.

 

Thanks for passing on these tips - if you've got any more tips for how to

'let it happen' as such, I'd be very grateful ;o) because as I say, it's

worked when other people have done it for me!

 

Katy (UK) x

 

 

 

On 25/06/2008, Pat Hoffert <patricia.hoffert wrote:

>

>

> Sassi,

>

> It is a form of kineseology. You can either use your fingers (there are

> 2 ways that I know to do this) - one is a rubbing of the thumb and

> middle (fire) finger. If the answer no, the rub is very smooth. If the

> answer is yes, it is a sticky, dragy thing. Or then you can join your

> pinky (baby) finger and thumb of your non-dominant hand and in the

> center of this circle, join your index finger with your thumb and make

> another circle. If the answer is no for me than the index finger and

> thumb come apart. If the answer is yes for me, I couldn't break the

> bond between my thumb and my index finger with a hammer!! Or your could

> use a pendulum also for answers. There are also other methods of

> deviceless dowsing, like blinking, etc, but I have not had success with

> them.

>

> Was I clear? I could show you what I do - it is hard to explain.

>

> Try both ways that I suggested, and let me know how you make out. Ask

> about your supplements, you food and beverages, etc to practice.

>

> Take care.

>

> Pat Hoffert

> West Seneca, NY

>

> .

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I got this off another group, I hope the pic comes through. Ill attach it

too just in case.

 

Here hopefully is a few tips to help you know what you are looking for when

you go to buy true Citrine.

The Citrine created from Amethyst will look like Amethyst in

Structure... ... The points from Geodes or actual

Geodes or plates.

 

True Citrine had a totally different look and color. The really rich

Citrine that is that gorgeous Dark citrine color is the

The heated Amethyst. If you are looking at Spheres or Polished

Pieces of Citrine it more than likely is

True Citrine as the Amethyst " Teeth " are not that large.. And if they

Were they would be sold in that

Structure rather than cut or polished.

 

The picture below is treated Amethyst.

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is untreated citrine note the lighter colour I think you can see the

differences in the way they look.. And once

You know it.. You know it!

 

Usually the heated amethyst is very dark amber. And again with a

Geode I believe the citrine crystals that are druzy are very small,

And the amethyst are not.

 

Color is a big factor. That is why when I see a very deep amber

Citrine I ask. If it is light colored I usually trust it to be

Citrine.

Some people feel that the Citrine from Amethyst has a stronger energy

Than the natural citrine. If you

Can get a piece of each and see for yourself the differences in

Energy. Treated is not always bad. Both work well the chouse is up to you. I

have both and like them equally.

 

 I hope this helps.

 

 

Infinite Blessings, Light and Peace

Sypress

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks, everyone, for your responses.

 

I wanted a number of crystal points to use in experimenting with

grids. The first thing I've been inspired to do is charge them with

reiki, point them to the center, and then use small crystal beads in

the center assigned to names with needs and let the reiki flow their

way and recharge once a week or so.

 

So I kept my eye open for crystal points of a decent size and number

and this set came up. They were labelled as natural, but although

I'm no expert, I don't think they are. I believe they are quartz and

not glass (could be wrong), and on picking them up today they don't

feel as dull as I remember when I first got them.

 

The picture on ebay has expired, so I'm going to need to take a

picture and post a link for you.

 

At the time, I knew what muscle testing was, but didn't really know

how to do it myself. Now I know a little bit more, and have used a

pendulum, but the pendulum is extremely susceptible to what my

opinion is. I will have to try the two methods mentioned here to see

if those work for me!

 

At any rate, I'll do what I can to make them happy and whole. Thanks

for reminding me to love them as they are.

 

Hmmmmm... that's odd. I just tried the rubbing the fingers

together.

 

Is this quartz? yes

Is it citrine? yes

Does it need healing? no

 

Well... maybe I was wrong to begin with? At least a little rescue

remedy, moonlight, salt and selenite won't hurt them any I'll

still put up a picture and see what the rest of you think.

 

jayne

[Guest guest]

Katy,

 

Did you read Letters to Robin? You can google it, and print it for

free. It is a quick instruction book for how to dowse and use the

pendulum. You program your Higher Self so that you can't help decide

the answers. Just a thought here.

And practice, practice, practice.

 

Start by asking yes/no questions, and when you get confident, you can as

for more info and know how to interpret it. You can pendule with a

chart - there are many types of charts.

 

Best of luck to you.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

 

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:03 AM, K H wrote:

 

Hi Pat,

 

I had a go at these, as I've been to see a kineseologist practioner in

the

past a few times and was fascinated how my body gave her answers. I've

heard

of the two circles for self-muscle testing before but I can't seem to

make

this work reliably for me. I wonder if it's because I'm trying to contol

it

or something, rather being able to relax into it.

 

I've just recently started using a pendulum and sometimes the answers

are

very obvious and sometimes I struggle with it a bit. But this is for me

the

most reliable way I've found so far.

 

Thanks for passing on these tips - if you've got any more tips for how

to

'let it happen' as such, I'd be very grateful ;o) because as I say, it's

worked when other people have done it for me!

 

Katy (UK) x

 

On 25/06/2008, Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia.hoffert > wrote:

>

>

> Sassi,

> It is a form of kineseology. You can either use your fingers (there

> are 2 ways that I know to do this) - one is a rubbing of the thumb and

> middle (fire) finger. If the answer no, the rub is very smooth. If the

> answer is yes, it is a sticky, dragy thing. Or then you can join your

> pinky (baby) finger and thumb of your non-dominant hand and in the

> center of this circle, join your index finger with your thumb and make

> another circle. If the answer is no for me than the index finger and

> thumb come apart. If the answer is yes for me, I couldn't break the

> bond between my thumb and my index finger with a hammer!! Or your

> could use a pendulum also for answers. There are also other methods of

> deviceless dowsing, like blinking, etc, but I have not had success

> with them.

> Was I clear? I could show you what I do - it is hard to explain.

> Try both ways that I suggested, and let me know how you make out. Ask

> about your supplements, you food and beverages, etc to practice.

> Take care.

> Pat Hoffert West Seneca, NY

> .

>

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sassi,

 

You can use the finger techniques if you are in a store or in public,

and you are energy testing for supplements, vitamins, etc. I don't mind

pulling out my pendulum, but some people are just too shy.

 

I also use the finger method to muscle test my dogs and cats. The cats

like to bat at the pendulum, and the dogs would like to eat it. It

defeats the purpose of asking for an answer when there is outside

influence!!!

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM, sassi kass wrote:

 

I think I get it Pat! That's interesting. ..I never heard of that

before! Pendulum yes but, using your fingers no. I'll have to check it

out! Thanks for sharing that!

                      Sassi

 

 

Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia.hoffert >

CrystalHealing- workshop

 

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:48:57 PM

Re: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

Sassi,

 

It is a form of kineseology. You can either use your fingers (there are

2 ways that I know to do this) - one is a rubbing of the thumb and

middle (fire) finger. If the answer no, the rub is very smooth. If the

answer is yes, it is a sticky, dragy thing. Or then you can join your

pinky (baby) finger and thumb of your non-dominant hand and in the

center of this circle, join your index finger with your thumb and make

another circle. If the answer is no for me than the index finger and

thumb come apart. If the answer is yes for me, I couldn't break the

bond between my thumb and my index finger with a hammer!! Or your could

use a pendulum also for answers. There are also other methods of

deviceless dowsing, like blinking, etc, but I have not had success with

them.

 

Was I clear? I could show you what I do - it is hard to explain.

 

Try both ways that I suggested, and let me know how you make out. Ask

about your supplements, you food and beverages, etc to practice.

 

Take care.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:25 PM, sassi kass wrote:

 

If it's ok for me to ask....What do you mean by muscle test?

                                      

Sassi

 

 

Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia. hoffert@ verizon.net> >

CrystalHealing- workshop

<CrystalHeal ing- workshop>

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:47:32 PM

RE: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

Jayne,

 

Did you muscle test to see if you were compatible with these crystals

first? We don't have lots of crystal shops here, so I buy online, but

muscle test first. Some look gorgeous, but they just don't test strong

for me.

 

Also, I don't clean or clear with salt anymore. I use sunlight, or

moonlight, or both. I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the

crystals in. It is cheap enough, and when they have been buried for 24

hours, I throw out the rice.

 

Good luck clearing, and I hope your crystals work out.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, briarwoodpups wrote:

 

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

[Guest guest]

I can picture that!!!! And I got a chuckle!

                      : )

 

 

 

 

 

Pat Hoffert <patricia.hoffert

 

Thursday, June 26, 2008 5:10:09 PM

Re: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

 

 

Sassi,

 

You can use the finger techniques if you are in a store or in public,

and you are energy testing for supplements, vitamins, etc. I don't mind

pulling out my pendulum, but some people are just too shy.

 

I also use the finger method to muscle test my dogs and cats. The cats

like to bat at the pendulum, and the dogs would like to eat it. It

defeats the purpose of asking for an answer when there is outside

influence!!!

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:10 PM, sassi kass wrote:

 

I think I get it Pat! That's interesting. ..I never heard of that

before! Pendulum yes but, using your fingers no. I'll have to check it

out! Thanks for sharing that!

                      Sassi

 

 

Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net> >

CrystalHealing- workshop

<CrystalHealing- workshop>

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:48:57 PM

Re: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

Sassi,

 

It is a form of kineseology. You can either use your fingers (there are

2 ways that I know to do this) - one is a rubbing of the thumb and

middle (fire) finger. If the answer no, the rub is very smooth. If the

answer is yes, it is a sticky, dragy thing. Or then you can join your

pinky (baby) finger and thumb of your non-dominant hand and in the

center of this circle, join your index finger with your thumb and make

another circle. If the answer is no for me than the index finger and

thumb come apart. If the answer is yes for me, I couldn't break the

bond between my thumb and my index finger with a hammer!! Or your could

use a pendulum also for answers. There are also other methods of

deviceless dowsing, like blinking, etc, but I have not had success with

them.

 

Was I clear? I could show you what I do - it is hard to explain.

 

Try both ways that I suggested, and let me know how you make out. Ask

about your supplements, you food and beverages, etc to practice.

 

Take care.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:25 PM, sassi kass wrote:

 

If it's ok for me to ask....What do you mean by muscle test?

                                       Sassi

 

 

Pat Hoffert < patricia.hoffert@ verizon.net

<patricia. hoffert@ verizon.net> >

CrystalHealing- workshop

<CrystalHeal ing- workshop>

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:47:32 PM

RE: [CrystalHW] Citrine... not

 

Jayne,

 

Did you muscle test to see if you were compatible with these crystals

first? We don't have lots of crystal shops here, so I buy online, but

muscle test first. Some look gorgeous, but they just don't test strong

for me.

 

Also, I don't clean or clear with salt anymore. I use sunlight, or

moonlight, or both. I also use uncooked white or brown rice to bury the

crystals in. It is cheap enough, and when they have been buried for 24

hours, I throw out the rice.

 

Good luck clearing, and I hope your crystals work out.

 

Pat Hoffert

West Seneca, NY

 

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:05 AM, briarwoodpups wrote:

 

Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

 

I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

other things to do if those don't work

 

jayne

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ooo thank you for this information! I've not heard of Letters to Robin

before, so will Google. Also not heard of charts for this!

Many thanks - hopefully this will help me improve my skills

Katy (UK) x

 

 

On 26/06/2008, Pat Hoffert <patricia.hoffert wrote:

>

>

> Katy,

>

> Did you read Letters to Robin? You can google it, and print it for

> free. It is a quick instruction book for how to dowse and use the

> pendulum. You program your Higher Self so that you can't help decide

> the answers. Just a thought here.

> And practice, practice, practice.

>

> Start by asking yes/no questions, and when you get confident, you can as

> for more info and know how to interpret it. You can pendule with a

> chart - there are many types of charts.

>

> Best of luck to you.

>

> Pat Hoffert

> West Seneca, NY

>

> .

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I bought 2 things from China when I first started my crystal

collection. Both cost me an arm and a leg. One was 2 fake crystal

points and the other was advertised as yellow quartz. When it came,

it was yellow, all right. Very much dyed.

 

I contacted the seller who said it was dyed but it was still quartz,

which it is, so I treat it as quartz.

 

Never again I bought anything from Asia, especially China.

 

Not all eBay sellers are bad. Perhaps some are not as knowledgeable

and buy one thing thinking it is another and then put them on sale.

 

Maria

 

, " briarwoodpups "

<briarwoodpups wrote:

>

> Thanks, everyone, for your responses.

>

> I wanted a number of crystal points to use in experimenting with

> grids. The first thing I've been inspired to do is charge them

with

> reiki, point them to the center, and then use small crystal beads

in

> the center assigned to names with needs and let the reiki flow

their

> way and recharge once a week or so.

>

> So I kept my eye open for crystal points of a decent size and

number

> and this set came up. They were labelled as natural, but although

> I'm no expert, I don't think they are. I believe they are quartz

and

> not glass (could be wrong), and on picking them up today they

don't

> feel as dull as I remember when I first got them.

>

> The picture on ebay has expired, so I'm going to need to take a

> picture and post a link for you.

>

> At the time, I knew what muscle testing was, but didn't really

know

> how to do it myself. Now I know a little bit more, and have used

a

> pendulum, but the pendulum is extremely susceptible to what my

> opinion is. I will have to try the two methods mentioned here to

see

> if those work for me!

>

> At any rate, I'll do what I can to make them happy and whole.

Thanks

> for reminding me to love them as they are.

>

> Hmmmmm... that's odd. I just tried the rubbing the fingers

> together.

>

> Is this quartz? yes

> Is it citrine? yes

> Does it need healing? no

>

> Well... maybe I was wrong to begin with? At least a little rescue

> remedy, moonlight, salt and selenite won't hurt them any I'll

> still put up a picture and see what the rest of you think.

>

> jayne

>

[Guest guest]

Salt is not good for crystals it will dry them out and the poor things have

already been subjected to lots of man made interference, I would go with the

rescue remedy and offer them some sage or other sacred insence. x

 

On 6/25/08, K H <kheditorial2 wrote:

>

> Could it be that they're heated amethyst? That makes the browny citrine

> doesn't it, rather than the bright yellow and white?

> Katy (UK) x

>

> On 25/06/2008, briarwoodpups

<briarwoodpups<briarwoodpups%40>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Ok, I ordered a group of crystals off of Ebay from China. A grouping

> > of 12 that were advertised as citrine. I really wanted clear, but

> > these were a nice size, I had missed several other auctions, they clear

> > were going for much more, and so I went ahead and ordered these. They,

> > of course, don't feel right. I'm betting they're dyed. I really don't

> > care if they're citrine or not, but now I get to try to repair them.

> >

> > I'll start by putting them in a bowl of water with rescue remedy. I'll

> > report back and let you know after that, but I guess if that doesn't

> > work, I'll bury them in salt. But maybe if you can help me think of

> > other things to do if those don't work

> >

> > jayne

> > .

> >

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know that some people use straight salt for there crystals. it makes me

cringe salt is so caustic that i have to agree that salt kills the spirit of

the crystals..

a mixture of a pinch of sea salt and a gallon or rain or well water works

nicely, smudging them or you can ring a bell over them. or hold them in your

hand closing your hand around them blow in one end than the other and ask they

be cleaned and cleared. there are lots of ways.. you can also put them in the

moonlight or sunlight, or if you have kynite you can run that over them.. but

true citrine doesn't need cleansing its one of the ones that dont hold negative

energy..

 

Namaste

candace