Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Hi. I am also having trouble understanding where this term began and when. Right back through history there have always been those that have abilities others don't. Sometimes children that had these abilities were recognised by the society they lived in as gifted, other times they were considered to be anything ranging from weird to devil children. I have a grandson that is very psychic and sees and talks to spirits. My daughter in law has a great deal of difficulty coping with this. I suppose that it would be rather disconcerting to be watching TV with your 4 yr old and have him suddenly start conversing with someone you can't see or when you put him to bed at night, have him ask you to " please ask that lady to stop talking to me cos I want to go to sleep " . I have a grandaughter that collects cystals and is very in tune with them. My point is that these children have always been among us and is it not possible that we notice them more now because being spiritual is not something that we hide anymore? I also feel that by labeling these children and saying that they are the new generation and have come here for whatever reason is putting a lot of responsibility on their shoulders. Can we not just let them be children that have a gift? Why do we have to label them? When we give someone a label we are saying that that is who they are and we define them with that label. Don't define them because of their abilities, it only serves to make them feel different from others and that is never a good thing. I know because I was a child that was " different " , who never fitted in. Now I am an adult and I still don't. Teach these children that it is ok to have these abilities. That they are not different or weird. They just have an ability that others don't and that's ok. Others have abilities that they might not have. Applying labels to groups of people perpetuates a culture of bigotry, fear and misunderstanding among other things. Katwytch , Chanel Bayless <tarot_realms wrote: > > > Just out of curiousity.. when did this term begin? I wouldn't say I am an indigo or crystal child, although.. I'm psychic, gifted, intuitive..etc. I have a child that is autistic.. does this make him this or that? I don't think so, to be honest. I have a daughter that is showing signs of gift but I wouldn't consider her this term or that term. I guess I'm not understanding why and how these terms came about and why it's so important to label the children. > > I'm not trying to debate or beliitle, I just don't understand the significance. > > I'm slightly cynical when it comes to these kind of enlightening terms.. Once I sat in on a seminar with someone who claims that anyone under the age of 40 could not be spiritual, intuitive, or enlightened and were the complete cause to all mayhem and ill in the world. She had lots of terms for the two groups (under 40 and over 40). Me being in my early 30s, I disagreed with her. I worry about new terms being thrown around, especially when it comes to people that are born with gifts and differences from societal 'norm' (using that term loosely). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Aloha. . here's a direct link that may answer some of your questions. http://www.metagifted.org/topics/metagifted/indigo/introduction.html Another book that may be of interest to those feeling the continualy shifts and convergences that has been happening for quite soem time might enjoy The Bird Tribes and Star Seed Millenium by Ken Carey. Blessings! Malama Pono. . In True Light Skye @ www.HeartofMaui.com Crystal and Minerals katwytch <fhyonna wrote: Hi. I am also having trouble understanding where this term began and when. Right back through history there have always been those that have abilities others don't. Sometimes children that had these abilities were recognised by the society they lived in as gifted, other times they were considered to be anything ranging from weird to devil children. I have a grandson that is very psychic and sees and talks to spirits. My daughter in law has a great deal of difficulty coping with this. I suppose that it would be rather disconcerting to be watching TV with your 4 yr old and have him suddenly start conversing with someone you can't see or when you put him to bed at night, have him ask you to " please ask that lady to stop talking to me cos I want to go to sleep " . I have a grandaughter that collects cystals and is very in tune with them. My point is that these children have always been among us and is it not possible that we notice them more now because being spiritual is not something that we hide anymore? I also feel that by labeling these children and saying that they are the new generation and have come here for whatever reason is putting a lot of responsibility on their shoulders. Can we not just let them be children that have a gift? Why do we have to label them? When we give someone a label we are saying that that is who they are and we define them with that label. Don't define them because of their abilities, it only serves to make them feel different from others and that is never a good thing. I know because I was a child that was " different " , who never fitted in. Now I am an adult and I still don't. Teach these children that it is ok to have these abilities. That they are not different or weird. They just have an ability that others don't and that's ok. Others have abilities that they might not have. Applying labels to groups of people perpetuates a culture of bigotry, fear and misunderstanding among other things. Katwytch , Chanel Bayless <tarot_realms wrote: > > > Just out of curiousity.. when did this term begin? I wouldn't say I am an indigo or crystal child, although.. I'm psychic, gifted, intuitive..etc. I have a child that is autistic.. does this make him this or that? I don't think so, to be honest. I have a daughter that is showing signs of gift but I wouldn't consider her this term or that term. I guess I'm not understanding why and how these terms came about and why it's so important to label the children. > > I'm not trying to debate or beliitle, I just don't understand the significance. > > I'm slightly cynical when it comes to these kind of enlightening terms.. Once I sat in on a seminar with someone who claims that anyone under the age of 40 could not be spiritual, intuitive, or enlightened and were the complete cause to all mayhem and ill in the world. She had lots of terms for the two groups (under 40 and over 40). Me being in my early 30s, I disagreed with her. I worry about new terms being thrown around, especially when it comes to people that are born with gifts and differences from societal 'norm' (using that term loosely). > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thanks My child is gifted, actually most of my children are. I just didn't understand this label that I've never heard of.. crystal children and indigo children. I myself am gifted. I encourage their gifts and we live very spiritually. We are very positive.. and actuallly some hold us to a model. Thanks for your very kind words Chanel : silalasangre: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 01:39:29 +0000[CrystalHW] Re: Indigo Children My friend,I personally believe that it is quite possible that your child who isautistic may in fact be " gifted " . Some of us are spiritual beingstrying to be human. It is somewhat of a society glitch that the is nota spiritual connection to the autistic. I have friends with autisticchildren, some are not sure what is going on, and would NEVER suspectthat the child could be spirituality gifted. Be well my friend, staypositive and allow your child to be who he/she is. You are blessed aswell; as I recognize you as openminded and faithful.si`la--- In , Chanel Bayless<tarot_realms wrote:>> > Just out of curiousity.. when did this term begin? I wouldn't say Iam an indigo or crystal child, although.. I'm psychic, gifted,intuitive..etc. I have a child that is autistic.. does this make himthis or that? I don't think so, to be honest. I have a daughter thatis showing signs of gift but I wouldn't consider her this term or thatterm. I guess I'm not understanding why and how these terms came aboutand why it's so important to label the children. > > I'm not trying to debate or beliitle, I just don't understand thesignificance.> > I'm slightly cynical when it comes to these kind of enlighteningterms.. Once I sat in on a seminar with someone who claims that anyoneunder the age of 40 could not be spiritual, intuitive, or enlightenedand were the complete cause to all mayhem and ill in the world. Shehad lots of terms for the two groups (under 40 and over 40). Me beingin my early 30s, I disagreed with her. I worry about new terms beingthrown around, especially when it comes to people that are born withgifts and differences from societal 'norm' (using that term loosely). > > > : spiritcrystal_lynn: Tue, 6 Nov2007 20:03:58 -0800[CrystalHW] Re: Indigo Children> > > > > Hiyas everyone,You might also try searching www.metagifted.com ..Takecare,LynnDo You?Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around [Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved] > > > > > > > ________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the wordscramble challenge with star power.>http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oc\ t> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Thank you You understand my point. Long ago I was studying Alchemical philosophy and they spoke on Autism in the texts. I would say autism has been on earth for some time.. possibly. I have wondered at times if the labels are more to help some people cope with the variety of disorders based around social behaviors, that their family members have. I agree that labels place some expectation that shouldn't be placed. I treat the children as they are, brilliant spiritual beings that are gifted. It allows them to be open to any and all gifts that they possess and I help nuture them. I think labels only harm.. especially if it is prescribed that we handle certain types of children a certain way. All children should be allowed to have their gifts nurtured, not because someone said they were autistic, adhd or whatever. All children should be allowed to have their spirit lifted, and all have lessons to learn on earth. All children are very special. : fhyonna: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 03:09:22 +0000[CrystalHW] Re: Indigo Children Hi. I am also having trouble understanding where this term began and when. Right back through history there have always been those that have abilities others don't. Sometimes children that had these abilities were recognised by the society they lived in as gifted, other times they were considered to be anything ranging from weird to devil children. I have a grandson that is very psychic and sees and talks to spirits. My daughter in law has a great deal of difficulty coping with this. I suppose that it would be rather disconcerting to be watching TV with your 4 yr old and have him suddenly start conversing with someone you can't see or when you put him to bed at night, have him ask you to " please ask that lady to stop talking to me cos I want to go to sleep " . I have a grandaughter that collects cystals and is very in tune with them. My point is that these children have always been among us and is it not possible that we notice them more now because being spiritual is not something that we hide anymore? I also feel that by labeling these children and saying that they are the new generation and have come here for whatever reason is putting a lot of responsibility on their shoulders. Can we not just let them be children that have a gift? Why do we have to label them? When we give someone a label we are saying that that is who they are and we define them with that label. Don't define them because of their abilities, it only serves to make them feel different from others and that is never a good thing. I know because I was a child that was " different " , who never fitted in. Now I am an adult and I still don't. Teach these children that it is ok to have these abilities. That they are not different or weird. They just have an ability that others don't and that's ok. Others have abilities that they might not have. Applying labels to groups of people perpetuates a culture of bigotry, fear and misunderstanding among other things. Katwytch , Chanel Bayless <tarot_realms wrote:>> > Just out of curiousity.. when did this term begin? I wouldn't say I am an indigo or crystal child, although.. I'm psychic, gifted, intuitive..etc. I have a child that is autistic.. does this make him this or that? I don't think so, to be honest. I have a daughter that is showing signs of gift but I wouldn't consider her this term or that term. I guess I'm not understanding why and how these terms came about and why it's so important to label the children. > > I'm not trying to debate or beliitle, I just don't understand the significance.> > I'm slightly cynical when it comes to these kind of enlightening terms.. Once I sat in on a seminar with someone who claims that anyone under the age of 40 could not be spiritual, intuitive, or enlightened and were the complete cause to all mayhem and ill in the world. She had lots of terms for the two groups (under 40 and over 40). Me being in my early 30s, I disagreed with her. I worry about new terms being thrown around, especially when it comes to people that are born with gifts and differences from societal 'norm' (using that term loosely). > > _______________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Well said indeed katwytch~ i appreciate the way you wexpressed how i feel~ Thank You! si`la , " katwytch " <fhyonna wrote: > > Hi. I am also having trouble understanding where this term began and > when. Right back through history there have always been those that > have abilities others don't. Sometimes children that had these > abilities were recognised by the society they lived in as gifted, > other times they were considered to be anything ranging from weird > to devil children. I have a grandson that is very psychic and sees > and talks to spirits. My daughter in law has a great deal of > difficulty coping with this. I suppose that it would be rather > disconcerting to be watching TV with your 4 yr old and have him > suddenly start conversing with someone you can't see or when you put > him to bed at night, have him ask you to " please ask that lady to > stop talking to me cos I want to go to sleep " . I have a grandaughter > that collects cystals and is very in tune with them. My point is that > these children have always been among us and is it not possible that > we notice them more now because being spiritual is not something that > we hide anymore? I also feel that by labeling these children and > saying that they are the new generation and have come here for > whatever reason is putting a lot of responsibility on their > shoulders. Can we not just let them be children that have a gift? Why > do we have to label them? When we give someone a label we are saying > that that is who they are and we define them with that label. Don't > define them because of their abilities, it only serves to make them > feel different from others and that is never a good thing. I know > because I was a child that was " different " , who never fitted in. Now > I am an adult and I still don't. Teach these children that it is ok > to have these abilities. That they are not different or weird. They > just have an ability that others don't and that's ok. Others have > abilities that they might not have. Applying labels to groups of > people perpetuates a culture of bigotry, fear and misunderstanding > among other things. > > Katwytch > > > > > , Chanel Bayless > <tarot_realms@> wrote: > > > > > > Just out of curiousity.. when did this term begin? I wouldn't say > I am an indigo or crystal child, although.. I'm psychic, gifted, > intuitive..etc. I have a child that is autistic.. does this make him > this or that? I don't think so, to be honest. I have a daughter that > is showing signs of gift but I wouldn't consider her this term or > that term. I guess I'm not understanding why and how these terms came > about and why it's so important to label the children. > > > > I'm not trying to debate or beliitle, I just don't understand the > significance. > > > > I'm slightly cynical when it comes to these kind of enlightening > terms.. Once I sat in on a seminar with someone who claims that > anyone under the age of 40 could not be spiritual, intuitive, or > enlightened and were the complete cause to all mayhem and ill in the > world. She had lots of terms for the two groups (under 40 and over > 40). Me being in my early 30s, I disagreed with her. I worry about > new terms being thrown around, especially when it comes to people > that are born with gifts and differences from societal 'norm' (using > that term loosely). > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 i have to agree with the labels i think that people are way to fast to say this child is this or that and some ppl who have unruly children and children who have some problems like to label them indigo or crystal children as it makes them feel better.i work in a crystal shop and one lady came in with her child who was a very very spoiled brat grabbing things off the shelves and even broke one crystal.. and the mother said that the child was a indigo crystal child.. not just one but both.. amazing..far be it from me to say the child wasn't either but as far as i could see it was a very spoiled child use to getting its own way.. the true indigo and crystal children i have ever seen never acted like this child and i know a spoiled child when i see one. but this lady let this child behave so badly because of her claim as to who he was . i think there a trend for people to want there children to be an indigo child or crystal child and there for allow all sort of things they normally wouldn't allow.. i find working in this shop allot of the people who come in with there children most claim they are either indigo or crystal children.. i have only seen a few that i have felt were truly gifted and just that. . all children are gifted all children are wonders... i wish we would all start as grandparents as we can than see what we missed as parents. i was gifted as a child and was considered possessed and had to learn to hide most of what i could see and feel so lost a great deal of it.. i totally agree with your letter about labels as when we give the child the label of being indigo or crystal we are putting allot on there shoulders..i find it amazing that so many of these gifted children are born into house holds that have nothing to do with any energy work at all.i have seen some of these families and its amazing how they change and cope.. how very blessed it is when some of them are born into homes where the parents know about such things and can teach them that they are not freaks or demons.Most of the time these parents don't go around saying my child is a crystal child, they just know.. i am glad that things are changing as i remember to well when i would tell somebody something and they would tell me to stop that what i was saying was evil.. i am blessed to have 5 amazing grandchildren and i hope that as they grow they will become who they are. i love that there parents let me give them stones and teach them about healing wee folk, dragons and unicorns and things that others don't see.. my favorite saying is " Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. " -G. K. Chesterton i am glad to see somebody agrees with me about giving a child a label. lets let them be children.. lets let them see dragons ...and those of us who are blessed enough to share in there lives enjoy,,,, love and light thistle katwytch <fhyonna wrote: . Can we not just let them be children that have a gift? Why do we have to label them? When we give someone a label we are saying that that is who they are and we define them with that label. Don't define them because of their abilities, it only serves to make them feel different from others and that is never a good thing. I know because I was a child that was " different " , who never fitted in. Now I am an adult and I still don't. Teach these children that it is ok to have these abilities. That they are not different or weird. They just have an ability that others don't and that's ok. Others have abilities that they might not have. Applying labels to groups of people perpetuates a culture of bigotry, fear and misunderstanding among other things. Recent Activity 16 New Members 1 New Files Visit Your Group Healthy Eating Zone Encouraging families to eat healthy. Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 hey all I believe that every person has abilities to heal and sense energies and more, if they are allowed to nurture the talent or see the possibilities, some are able to access their abilities more than others and if they have the environment to help them to nurture the abilities they will grow. I believe that most/many children are still close to the veil of heaven and are sensitive to the environment around them, and no one should demean them or belittle them. It is our job to listen and help them grow, who knows they may be warning us of things we cant see or other events. I Know of a woman who as a child who had a great many gifts she exhibited, she could even figure out what animals needed and had a special touch. She had people who would push her to see things and it scared her, so she hid/ignored her gifts, she didn't want to see what she was being forced to focus on. In the end it made her sad and lonely. She also had one woman she stayed with inform her and others that she was possessed by the devil, and that the pupils of her eyes were glowing red. She said on that day the woman was wearing a red house coat, and standing in a sunbeam, hmmm can we say reflection in the eyes. It led to people in her life shunning and abusing her, and this woman would constantly take advantage of her and blaming her for everything including things her children would do. she ended up in worse and worse situation all her life. she is now a very talented and wonderful person, she works in massage therapy, and has been studying crystals. She has the ability to see where people are hurting to work on the areas better. It is interesting to me that people who do not understand would rather shun and hurt than help, teach, and love. we are all children of a higher power, all of us are brothers and sisters, and we all have a mission on this earth. we should love everyone and not blame or attack. At least that is what I believe. -- Have a Happy and Keep Smiling TTFN Angelina Thelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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