Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Katy, If I may be so bold... it seem to me that you may be getting the issues mixed up. The original question was something about " How do you describe your religion? " ... I think this may have come from ( and I could be wrong ) is that there may be a few young people on this list that are drawn to crystal through paganism or wicca ( earth based religion/spiritual faiths) And there may be some not so young ones on the list as well. :-) When folks are beginning to step into an alterative spiritual path.. it can be exciting as well as confusing for them and not only how they relate to people who don't have the same beliefs but also how the people who don't share their beliefs relate to them. Now on to your questioning... I don't believe all crystal healers are using a system of religious or spiritual faith in their crystal healing. While I always start a session with in invocation and believe in a higher power that is universal I also think the healing session could be just as effective without it depending on the clients perspective. Since my clients tend to believe in a God/goddess that is the energy I call in when starting a session. If the client did not believe in a higher power, I would honor that and make the session secular. Energy works.. and there is always an invisible universal energy... whether that is religious, spiritual or secular is simply in the mind of the practitioner. Hope this helps. In gratitude, John Van Rees http://www.exquisitecrystals.com At 12:55 PM 9/30/2007, you wrote: >Hi all, >I've been troubled by the idea recently that healing with crystals comes >down from a god. I personally cannot accept this, but I do truly believe >that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief. >I have been wondering whether all crystal healers are using a religious >belief (i.e. that there is a god) of some kind to help them heal others, or >whether there are other people like me who believe that it's just about >energy. I'm not a healer, it's early days for me, and I'm still figuring out >what I actually belief and don't believe. I have been on the beginning of a >crystal healing course, and this has prompted such questions in my mind. >All best, >Katy x > >On 28/09/2007, <donnala15%40aol.com>donnala15 ><<donnala15%40aol.com>donnala15 wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > My favorite answer is that everyone is entitled to believe in the God > > (Creator, Great Spirit, Source) of their own understanding. Our > > understanding > > may not be their understanding, but for them OR us to denigrate the > > other's > > beliefs is not only insensitive, but arrogant. My other answer is that I > > am > > spiritual but not necessarily religious and am able to find Spirit as > > easily > > in the woods, or waters, etc. as they may easily find Spirit in a house of > > > > worship. > > My relationship to the Universe is that we are all related to everything > > else including the stars, planets, etc. My belief is that each of us is a > > piece of Spirit, and as such touch all of creation. > > Blessings Abundant > > Donna > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Hiya John, Thank you for your reply I see now where the original question has come from. Just the mention of religion prompted something I've been meaning to ask - hence the possible confused-sounding email! Sorry about that. I personally have been wondering whether it's standard practice for the healer to believe in some kind of god. Although I don't have a firm belief at the moment, I don't really think this is where I'll be heading, and I wanted to find out how many crystal healers out there don't believe in a god but are still successfully practicing. So, yes it seems that my question is different. Hope this helps clear up my previous email! Thank you for sharing your experiences re secular healings, John. Can I ask how your healings differ when you do a secular healing? Do you call upon some kind of energy to help you? I'm really interested to know the difference. All best, Katy x On 30/09/2007, John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Katy, > > If I may be so bold... it seem to me that you may be getting the > issues mixed up. > > The original question was something about " How do you describe your > religion? " ... > > I think this may have come from ( and I could be wrong ) is that there may > be a few young people on this list that are drawn to crystal through > paganism > or wicca ( earth based religion/spiritual faiths) And there may be some > not so > young ones on the list as well. :-) When folks are beginning to step into > an alterative spiritual path.. it can be exciting as well as confusing for > them > and not only how they relate to people who don't have the same beliefs but > also > how the people who don't share their beliefs relate to them. > > Now on to your questioning... > > I don't believe all crystal healers are using a system of religious > or spiritual faith in their crystal healing. While I always start a > session > with in invocation and believe in a higher power that is universal I also > think > the healing session could be just as effective without it depending on > the clients perspective. Since my clients tend to believe in a God/goddess > that is the energy I call in when starting a session. > > If the client did not believe in a higher power, I would honor that and > make the session secular. Energy works.. and there is always > an invisible universal energy... whether that is religious, spiritual > or secular is simply in the mind of the practitioner. > > Hope this helps. > > In gratitude, > > John Van Rees > http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 >y question is >different. Hope this helps clear up my previous email! > >Thank you for sharing your experiences re secular healings, John. Can I ask >how your healings differ when you do a secular healing? Do you call upon >some kind of energy to help you? I'm really interested to know the >difference. I would not invoke " God " but may invoke " Spirit " ... helpers, guides, angels, clients Higher self, etc. John >All best, >Katy x > >On 30/09/2007, John Van Rees ><<john%40exquisitecrystals.com>john wrote: > > > > Katy, > > > > If I may be so bold... it seem to me that you may be getting the > > issues mixed up. > > > > The original question was something about " How do you describe your > > religion? " ... > > > > I think this may have come from ( and I could be wrong ) is that there may > > be a few young people on this list that are drawn to crystal through > > paganism > > or wicca ( earth based religion/spiritual faiths) And there may be some > > not so > > young ones on the list as well. :-) When folks are beginning to step into > > an alterative spiritual path.. it can be exciting as well as confusing for > > them > > and not only how they relate to people who don't have the same beliefs but > > also > > how the people who don't share their beliefs relate to them. > > > > Now on to your questioning... > > > > I don't believe all crystal healers are using a system of religious > > or spiritual faith in their crystal healing. While I always start a > > session > > with in invocation and believe in a higher power that is universal I also > > think > > the healing session could be just as effective without it depending on > > the clients perspective. Since my clients tend to believe in a God/goddess > > that is the energy I call in when starting a session. > > > > If the client did not believe in a higher power, I would honor that and > > make the session secular. Energy works.. and there is always > > an invisible universal energy... whether that is religious, spiritual > > or secular is simply in the mind of the practitioner. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > In gratitude, > > > > John Van Rees > > <http://www.exquisitecrystals.com>http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Thanks for you input. I believe the same as you do. I call in a higher being in all things I do. Don't think there is a mix up just a question to hear other views. Weather your young or not into wicca/paganism/spirituality its all based On a higher being. I think you maybe a little judge mental in your answer/or was it a statement Peace ---- John Van Rees 1/10/2007 7:17:48 AM [CrystalHW] Religion????????? Katy, If I may be so bold... it seem to me that you may be getting the issues mixed up. The original question was something about " How do you describe your religion? " ... I think this may have come from ( and I could be wrong ) is that there may be a few young people on this list that are drawn to crystal through paganism or wicca ( earth based religion/spiritual faiths) And there may be some not so young ones on the list as well. :-) When folks are beginning to step into an alterative spiritual path.. it can be exciting as well as confusing for them and not only how they relate to people who don't have the same beliefs but also how the people who don't share their beliefs relate to them. Now on to your questioning... I don't believe all crystal healers are using a system of religious or spiritual faith in their crystal healing. While I always start a session with in invocation and believe in a higher power that is universal I also think the healing session could be just as effective without it depending on the clients perspective. Since my clients tend to believe in a God/goddess that is the energy I call in when starting a session. If the client did not believe in a higher power, I would honor that and make the session secular. Energy works.. and there is always an invisible universal energy... whether that is religious, spiritual or secular is simply in the mind of the practitioner. Hope this helps. In gratitude, John Van Rees http://www.exquisitecrystals.com At 12:55 PM 9/30/2007, you wrote: >Hi all, >I've been troubled by the idea recently that healing with crystals comes >down from a god. I personally cannot accept this, but I do truly believe >that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief. >I have been wondering whether all crystal healers are using a religious >belief (i.e. that there is a god) of some kind to help them heal others, or >whether there are other people like me who believe that it's just about >energy. I'm not a healer, it's early days for me, and I'm still figuring out >what I actually belief and don't believe. I have been on the beginning of a >crystal healing course, and this has prompted such questions in my mind. >All best, >Katy x > >On 28/09/2007, <donnala15%40aol.com>donnala15 ><<donnala15%40aol.com>donnala15 wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > My favorite answer is that everyone is entitled to believe in the God > > (Creator, Great Spirit, Source) of their own understanding. Our > > understanding > > may not be their understanding, but for them OR us to denigrate the > > other's > > beliefs is not only insensitive, but arrogant. My other answer is that I > > am > > spiritual but not necessarily religious and am able to find Spirit as > > easily > > in the woods, or waters, etc. as they may easily find Spirit in a house of > > > > worship. > > My relationship to the Universe is that we are all related to everything > > else including the stars, planets, etc. My belief is that each of us is a > > piece of Spirit, and as such touch all of creation. > > Blessings Abundant > > Donna > > > > . > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 At 12:29 AM 10/1/2007, you wrote: >Thanks for you input. >I believe the same as you do. >I call in a higher being in all things I do. >Don't think there is a mix up just a question to hear other views. > >Weather your young or not into wicca/paganism/spirituality its all based >On a higher being. >I think you maybe a little judge mental in your answer/or was it a statement Yes... I may have been judgmental... but it is more of an observation rather than judgement.. at least that was in the intent. I meant no offense. In gratitude, John >Peace >---- > >John Van Rees >1/10/2007 7:17:48 AM >To: ><%40>@\ groups.com >[CrystalHW] Religion????????? > >Katy, > >If I may be so bold... it seem to me that you may be getting the >issues mixed up. > >The original question was something about " How do you describe your >religion? " ... > >I think this may have come from ( and I could be wrong ) is that there may >be a few young people on this list that are drawn to crystal through >paganism >or wicca ( earth based religion/spiritual faiths) And there may be some not >so >young ones on the list as well. :-) When folks are beginning to step into >an alterative spiritual path.. it can be exciting as well as confusing for >them >and not only how they relate to people who don't have the same beliefs but >also >how the people who don't share their beliefs relate to them. > >Now on to your questioning... > >I don't believe all crystal healers are using a system of religious >or spiritual faith in their crystal healing. While I always start a session >with in invocation and believe in a higher power that is universal I also >think >the healing session could be just as effective without it depending on >the clients perspective. Since my clients tend to believe in a God/goddess >that is the energy I call in when starting a session. > >If the client did not believe in a higher power, I would honor that and >make the session secular. Energy works.. and there is always >an invisible universal energy... whether that is religious, spiritual >or secular is simply in the mind of the practitioner. > >Hope this helps. > >In gratitude, > >John Van Rees ><http://www.exquisitecrystals.com>http://www.exquisitecrystals.com > >At 12:55 PM 9/30/2007, you wrote: > > >Hi all, > >I've been troubled by the idea recently that healing with crystals comes > >down from a god. I personally cannot accept this, but I do truly believe > >that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and belief. > >I have been wondering whether all crystal healers are using a religious > >belief (i.e. that there is a god) of some kind to help them heal others, or > >whether there are other people like me who believe that it's just about > >energy. I'm not a healer, it's early days for me, and I'm still figuring >out > >what I actually belief and don't believe. I have been on the beginning of a > >crystal healing course, and this has prompted such questions in my mind. > >All best, > >Katy x > > > >On 28/09/2007, > <donnala15%40aol.com><donnala15%40aol.com>donnala15 > ><<donnala15%40aol.com><donnala15%40aol.com>donnala15@ > aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > My favorite answer is that everyone is entitled to believe in the God > > > (Creator, Great Spirit, Source) of their own understanding. Our > > > understanding > > > may not be their understanding, but for them OR us to denigrate the > > > other's > > > beliefs is not only insensitive, but arrogant. My other answer is that I > > > am > > > spiritual but not necessarily religious and am able to find Spirit as > > > easily > > > in the woods, or waters, etc. as they may easily find Spirit in a house >of > > > > > > worship. > > > My relationship to the Universe is that we are all related to everything > > > else including the stars, planets, etc. My belief is that each of us is >a > > > piece of Spirit, and as such touch all of creation. > > > Blessings Abundant > > > Donna > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 In a message dated 10/1/2007 4:29:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kheditorial writes: ~~I like to imagine that there are tree spirits and animal helpers... I think this is due to my character. I find it easier to connect with nature/animals than human beings! Maybe once I've worked on a more universal way of thinking I will find it easier to accept that there are human-type equivalents - e.g. angels - and therefore accept their help! Does anyone else feel this way on this forum?~~ ~Chuckling~ Katy, I am with you in the aspect of relating better to animals and nature then to humans. If I meet a human walking a dog, I will most likely remember the dog's name the next time I meet the pair then I will recall the human's name. Most humans do not impress me. On a spiritual level, I do believe in higher powers then myself. I also believe in spirit guides be they in a human form (spirits of ancestors and loved ones that stay with us to guide us) or animals (totems and astral guides; i.e. - dragons, griffins, unicorns, etc.). I am not one who follows the angel concept but if it is what works for someone else, more power to them. The crystals also have a spirit and energy of their own and assist as guides on some levels for healing. meditation and dreamwork. Blessings to your eve all. ReNau " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 I see - that is interesting to know, thank you John ) I have established a connection with my higher self, but find it hard to follow the idea of angels. I'm not ruling out this way of thinking for myself in the future, I just find it difficult at the moment. I like to imagine that there are tree spirits and animal helpers... I think this is due to my character. I find it easier to connect with nature/animals than human beings! Maybe once I've worked on a more universal way of thinking I will find it easier to accept that there are human-type equivalents - e.g. angels - and therefore accept their help! Does anyone else feel this way on this forum? Interesting chat. Thank you. Katy x On 01/10/2007, John Van Rees <john wrote: > > Can I ask > >how your healings differ when you do a secular healing? Do you call upon > >some kind of energy to help you? > > I would not invoke " God " but may invoke " Spirit " ... helpers, > guides, angels, clients Higher self, etc. > > John > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Hurray! I was hoping I wasn't alone on that one lol Thanks ReNau. I'm the same re remembering dogs' names over people's! Every time! You know, reading your email, perhaps I do believe in human spirits too, I just find it harder to let myself. What you say does ring true for me. I'll have to think on this one further... I think I see crystals as energy sources, for now, rather than spirits. But who knows when that will change lol, as I explore. I only discovered tree spirits when I was on holiday a few months ago. I was sitting in my hotel room in Chamonix, looking at the mountains. Across the road were some trees and suddenly I saw lots of creatures/spirits formed out of the leaves. Some were happy and waving at me in the wind. Others were playful and cheeky, and others were verging on naughty! I was amazed!! It was a wonderful discovery. So... I really must keep an open mind, because I never know what I'll experience next lol!! Nice to talk to you again, ReNau Katy x On 02/10/2007, renaumoon <renaumoon wrote: > > ~Chuckling~ Katy, I am with you in the aspect of relating better to > animals > and nature then to humans. If I meet a human walking a dog, I will most > likely > remember the dog's name the next time I meet the pair then I will recall > the > human's name. Most humans do not impress me. > > On a spiritual level, I do believe in higher powers then myself. I also > believe in spirit guides be they in a human form (spirits of ancestors and > loved > ones that stay with us to guide us) or animals (totems and astral guides; > i.e. > - dragons, griffins, unicorns, etc.). I am not one who follows the angel > concept but if it is what works for someone else, more power to them. The > crystals also have a spirit and energy of their own and assist as guides > on some > levels for healing. meditation and dreamwork. > > Blessings to your eve all. > ReNau > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 In a message dated 10/1/2007 11:09:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kheditorial writes: ~~~I think I see crystals as energy sources, for now, rather than spirits. But who knows when that will change lol, as I explore. I only discovered tree spirits when I was on holiday a few months ago. I was sitting in my hotel room in Chamonix, looking at the mountains. Across the road were some trees and suddenly I saw lots of creatures/spirits formed out of the leaves. Some were happy and waving at me in the wind. Others were playful and cheeky, and others were verging on naughty! I was amazed!! It was a wonderful discovery.~~ This song from Disney's Pocahontas movie comes to mind when thinking of the spirits and energies of the plant, animal and mineral kingdoms and how poignant and true the really lyrics are: Colors Of The Wind - Vanessa Williams You think you own whatever land you land on Earth is just a dead thing you can claim But I know every rock and tree and creature Has a life, has a spirit, has a name You think the only people who are people Are the people who look and think like you But if you walk the footsteps of a stranger You learn things you never knew You never knew Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon? Or ask the grinning bobcat why he grinned Can you sing with all the voices of the mountains? Can you paint with all the colors of the wind? Can you paint with all the colors of the wind? Come run the hidden pine trails of the forest Come taste the sun-sweet berries of the earth Come roll in all the riches all around you And for once never wonder what they're worth The rainstorm and the river are my brothers And the heron and the otter are my friends And we are all connected to each other In a circle in a hoop that never ends Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon? or let the eagle tell you where he's been can you sing with all the voices of the mountain can you paint with all the colors of the wind can you paint with all the colors of the wind How high does the sycamore grow If you cut it down, then you'll never know And you'll never hear the wolf cry to the blue corn moon For whether we are white or copper - skinned We just sing with all the voices of the mountain Need to paint with all the colors of the wind You can own the earth and still All you'll own is earth until You can paint with all colors of the wind. Believing in spirits/spirit energies has nothing to do with religion IMHO. It does however have much to do with faith and even a spiritual aspect. There are people who are very faith-full and spiritual who do not believe in " God " and perhaps don't believe in any high-power that has a *human* form. Believing in something more along the lines of the Universal Life force. Whatever works for you and brings you peace is what is right for you. Blessings to you day all. ReNau " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Thank you for this, ReNau I haven't watched Pocahontas (would you believe!) so this song is new to me. The lyrics are amazing, aren't they? And very appropriate. 'Universal life force' - that sounds like the words I'm looking for... thank you I'll look into this. Well, this discussion has helped me formulate my thoughts, so thanks everyone ;o) Katy x On 02/10/2007, renaumoon <renaumoon wrote: > > This song from Disney's Pocahontas movie comes to mind when thinking of > the > spirits and energies of the plant, animal and mineral kingdoms and how > poignant and true the really lyrics are: > > Colors Of The Wind - Vanessa Williams... > > Believing in spirits/spirit energies has nothing to do with religion > IMHO. > It does however have much to do with faith and even a spiritual aspect. > There > are people who are very faith-full and spiritual who do not believe in > " God " > and perhaps don't believe in any high-power that has a *human* form. > Believing > in something more along the lines of the Universal Life force. Whatever > works for you and brings you peace is what is right for you. > > Blessings to you day all. > ReNau > > " Codail, suaimhnigh i nge/aga nadragain " > " Sleep, rest in the arms of the Dragon " > > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I also think we should never judge anyone. Everyone is here on a journey and we all share the energies this world and the heavens hold. and some are allowed to tap into them at a higher plain. (I hope I am making sense). I heard it once said, in regards to a group of words that held a similar connection " it is only a word, it is the connection the word implies " . Isnt that the just truth, We are all gods/heavens/great Father's children here to perform a journey. I think whether we are calling it religion, Faith, totem spirit, whatever belief system it is, we are all tapping into a higher plain and accessing that additional power and energy to help us in our work here. I don't think I would be as successful without that additional source of power. Now on the subject of animals, oh my goodness I have that problem I'll remember peoples faces and not always names right off and now animal's yup there you go. It seems animals are drawn to me, I also have areas I go. my house, a friends house, and a couple other areas that great horned owls show up 2 started nesting near me. it is interesting, and when I am doing therapy they fly in very close and sit on something (tree branch, ridgepole, anything) near where I am, it is really fun. I also seem to draw from the environment around me. Katy if you haven't seen Pocahontas please do, It is a cute show and a great song with a beautiful message, (even though the real Pocahontas was 12 when john smith came to the Americas, hmmmm that is interesting that is how old the real Rose was who was on the titanic lol. Well anyhow I think we all have a different way to tap the energies around us and that is what makes us all so diverse. It is like when someone told me how she grounds herself, and I couldn't do it no matter how hard I tried it seemed to work in opposite for me. If we were all the same it would be quite boring don't you think. I also think if we cant see the world with humor and love well increase our energy levels, if we don't we wont be able to use the energy as well, if at all. Ok so now I have a question Has anyone else out there given guidance, healing , advice to be followed and the people you help refuse to follow these guidances. I have noticed this, that some people who come and ask me what they should do/use/work with, I guild them and help them on a path and they refuse to believe me or follow through. They want the help though refuse to follow through and go back the previous patterns. I realize that they must not be ready at this time to address the situation. It doesn't change how frustrating it is, It makes me heart sick for them, I can see these people becoming so healthy and happy and they throw away the help. blessings to all -- Have a Happy and Keep Smiling TTFN Angelina Thelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Hi Angelina, It's settled, I must watch Pocahontas!! You're exactly spot on with your descriptions here. I keep thinking there's a right and wrong way to tap in, but you're right... I just need to find my own way. It certainly helps to hear others' experiences - that gives us other things to try and test, and see if they're suited to us, but they won't necessarily be for us. I also know exactly what you mean re animals. They've always come to me too. It's great, because I love them all! (Ah, except the creepy crawlies... but I understand they're here for a purpose, they're all little lives, so when they get a bit too close for comfort I gently move them on again!) 'I also think if we cant see the world with humor and love well increase our energy levels, if we don't we wont be able to use the energy as well, if at all.' Hmmm now that's a very good point! Hadn't thought of it like that! I understand your question about giving people guidance and them not accepting it on a number of levels. I have this trouble with giving people advice about their rabbits (I have a couple of pet rabbits and am a member on a couple of rabbit ). People ask for advice but get all shirty when you provide it - no matter how carefully you word it, and with affection... It's very odd when it happens, but I believe there's reason behind it... (It's the same with giving advice to friends/family/loved ones.) I can also see the other side of this too! I hate being given advice! Although I'm working on this, my first reaction is generally to reject *any* advice I'm given. I don't do it on purpose - I don't generally realise I'm doing it immediately. Then after a while I will come round to the way of thinking - because I analyse stuff a lot. Now if people don't analyse stuff like I do, then they'll be trapped in the rejecting state of mind, and won't go over the conversation and work out that you're right! Yes it could be that it's just not the right time for them, or that you didn't word it in exactly the way that will appeal to them (wording is *everything* in a lot of cases)... but... I discovered that this rejecting way of thinking is a self-destructive tendency. There's part of the person's unconsciousness that doesn't want them to get better. This is all about fear. Deep down the person is afraid of getting better because the prospect of being independent, and doing all these new things, and thinking in new ways, etc., is utterly terrifying! So they will 'protect' themselves from this deep-seated fear on an unconscious level. But the 'protection' only keeps them trapped in their current situation. I know this, because I battle with it all the time! It came to light in a cognitive therapy session btw, and my therapist was very happy when I finally understood this Of course it doesn't help to be told, when you're stuck in this viscious circle, unaware what you're doing, that 'you just don't want to get better' - it's quite hard to accept (and it'll be rejected anyway, because your unconscious mind doesn't want to be found out!!). So, I wonder then whether it's possible to work on deap-seated fear in these clients, on an unconscious level... then once that is unlocked they can start to want to get better, and start accepting your advice? I've done exactly this all my life (until recently) - I've gone to homeopaths and kinesiologists and they've given me advice and remedies... then I don't follow it, and I don't get better. It's not out of conscious choice... I just forget... my unconscious mind takes over. It's all about the unconscious mind, in my opinion. Hope this helps. Sorry if I've rambled on Katy x On 04/10/2007, Angelina Thelin <Angelina.Thelin wrote: > > I also think we should never judge anyone. Everyone is here on a journey > and > we all share the energies this world and the heavens hold. and some are > allowed to tap into them at a higher plain. (I hope I am making sense). > I heard it once said, in regards to a group of words that held a similar > connection " it is only a word, it is the connection the word implies " . > Isnt > that the just truth, We are all gods/heavens/great Father's children here > to > perform a journey. I think whether we are calling it religion, Faith, > totem > spirit, whatever belief system it is, we are all tapping into a higher > plain > and accessing that additional power and energy to help us in our work > here. > I don't think I would be as successful without that additional source of > power. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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