Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Does anyone know of any sucessful treatment (herbs, acupuncture, etc.) which could replace tooth extraction or root canal? The problem with antibiotics is that the bacteria are inside the tooth and so are not killed. It does not seem that herbs would be effective for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 In a message dated 9/15/2004 1:07:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, martyeisen writes: Does anyone know of any sucessful treatment (herbs, acupuncture, etc.) which could replace tooth extraction or root canal? The problem with antibiotics is that the bacteria are inside the tooth and so are not killed. It does not seem that herbs would be effective for the same reason. A friend of mine runs a drug company for dental issues. I found out recently it is actually a rather large company. Interesting to find out who I am speaking to sometimes. Anyway,,,, according to this guy, part of the typical problem with teeth is bacterial. Another common and usually concurrent issue is microbes. One of the reasons antibacterial don't often work completely is the microbes that are left behind. His company does sell inserts that will reside within the gum line and slowly kills the pathogens. This technology is usually used for periodontal, so the chance of a dentist being persuaded to use it to kill microbes or bacteria within their tooth is slim. IMHO. I don't even know if it would work. I do understand that teeth are very porous and there is a lot of circulation within teeth. Abscesses, IMHO, are a result of either tooth decay, or inflammation. I have known people who have had an abscess, that did dramatic life changes and cleanses that were able to keep the tooth without root canal. Your mileage may vary. Hope this helps, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2004 Report Share Posted September 15, 2004 Two patent herbal medication may prove helpful. The first is Watermelon Frost, famous for its ability to treat throat infections; it is also very useful for other mouth and tooth infections. The second is a Japanese product known as Trumpet brand Serogan pills, used for diarrhea and food poisoning, it is also very effective for infections with dental " carries " where there is a hole in the tooth that you pack with a piece of the pill. It is very potent. If there is no carrie, the Watermelon Frost may work as it comes as an ultra-fine powder that can be worked in around gum lines. Both of these products can be effective, but as you stated, if this is an infection completely contained within the tooth's enamel, these topical preparations may not get to the source well enough to be effective. - Matt Bauer - martyeisen Chinese Medicine Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:02 AM Re: Tooth abscess Does anyone know of any sucessful treatment (herbs, acupuncture, etc.) which could replace tooth extraction or root canal? The problem with antibiotics is that the bacteria are inside the tooth and so are not killed. It does not seem that herbs would be effective for the same reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 hi, try treating the meridian/organ associated with the abscessed tooth for infection (in the organ) as well as topically for the abscessed tooth (coq10, oxygen, clove, quercus - something orally that will pentrate tissues) stephen -- Stephen MacAllan Lic.Ac., B.Ac., M.Ac., M.H., Cert.B.E.R.M., M.H. M.B.Ac.C.,M.A.M.H. Acupuncturist, Herbalist, Kosmed practitioner Vega-tester www.stephenmacallan.co.uk www.stephenandphilipnaturally.co.uk powered by amiga 060/mediator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi All, & Matt, Matt Bauer wrote: > Watermelon Frost, famous [in] throat infections, is also very > useful for other mouth and tooth infections. Trumpet brand Serogan > pills [Japanese], used for diarrhea and food poisoning, also very > effective for infections with dental " caries " where there is a hole > in the tooth that you pack with a piece of the pill. It is very > potent. If there is no caries, Watermelon Frost may work as it > comes as an ultra-fine powder that can be worked in around gum > lines. Both of these products can be effective, but as you stated, > if this is an infection completely contained within the tooth's > enamel, these topical preparations may not get to the source well > enough to be effective. Matt Bauer See: http://www.herbs2000.com/disorders/toothache.htm http://www.startthehealing.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=product3.htm says: Clove Oil is an age-old remedy for toothache and tooth infection. One drop applied to the roof of the mouth can instantly relieve many headaches. Its antifungal, antibacterial and antivial qualities make it an excellent antiinfection essential oil for all types of infection. Its use can stop infections from taking hold in the body. Clove is also famous for its ability to kill parasites. It is powerful addition to an antiparasite program. When used topically, it helps to numb the skin and relieve many aches and pains. One of its main components, eugenol, is still used by dentists to numb the gums for dental procedures. Clove is a carminative that increases the ability of the stomach to digest foods The use of clove oil when used on the back of the tongue can help stave off tobacco cravings. Helps to dissolve warts and other abnormal growths When used in a gargle, helps relieve the pain of a sore throat. http://curezone.com/schulze/handbook/s-w.asp says: Tooth, infection: Tooth and Gum Restore; Echinacea Plus Immune Formula, or Children's Echinacea Formula; Garlic; Anti-infection Formula. Toothache: Clove oil; Tooth and Gum Restore; Echinacea Plus Immune Formula. http://www.kamwo.com/sys-tmpl/storkbrandpatentsgh/ Huang Lian Shang Qing Wan Has anyone tried these? Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing it " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Hi everyone, me again! I have a recurring tooth abscess under a particular group of teeth (which have root fillings), and I think after my recent run of stress and pushing myself too hard, it's coming back ( ( It's only just started to hurt and there's a bit of swelling in the gum. Is it too late to help it with any kind of natural healing, or am I just going to have to stick it out again... more antibiotics! (grrr) Kind of feels like punishment for letting myself get run down over the past month or two! It just proves once again that health problems are directly related to stress!! You get stressed, worn out, and your body's immune system is affected... on comes colds, abscesses etc, or worse! If there's anything you think I can do to stop this becoming a full-blown abscess then do please let me know, but I'm guessing it's too late. I have a bit of echinacea tincture left so am starting to take this again (shouldn't have stopped - now slapping wrist!), and I have rhodochrosite crystals (nature's antibiotic) - any suggestions on what I could do with them? Anything else I can use? Thanks, as always, Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 HI Katy, I have real good results with homeopathy and tooth problems. Take arnica for the trauma, Ledum for inflammation and Hypericum for nerve pain. Usually all three occur. But you can probably do the hypericum and arnica. Go for the 6x to start and take every half an hour for an hour and then every hour for 2 hours and then 3 times a day for a few days. You should have the results you need. In between, never at the same time, you can rinse with tea tree oil in water...one or two drops. That is wonderful for infections and inflammation but can nullify the homeopathic effects so never at the same time. Go on line for more info but this should give results. I have used it on many for years. Blessings, Dawn Silver Jewels of the Lotus Tibetan Gemstone Oracle...and Naprapath Katy Hill <kheditorial wrote: Hi everyone, me again! I have a recurring tooth abscess under a particular group of teeth (which have root fillings), and I think after my recent run of stress and pushing myself too hard, it's coming back ( ( It's only just started to hurt and there's a bit of swelling in the gum. Is it too late to help it with any kind of natural healing, or am I just going to have to stick it out again... more antibiotics! (grrr) Kind of feels like punishment for letting myself get run down over the past month or two! It just proves once again that health problems are directly related to stress!! You get stressed, worn out, and your body's immune system is affected... on comes colds, abscesses etc, or worse! If there's anything you think I can do to stop this becoming a full-blown abscess then do please let me know, but I'm guessing it's too late. I have a bit of echinacea tincture left so am starting to take this again (shouldn't have stopped - now slapping wrist!), and I have rhodochrosite crystals (nature's antibiotic) - any suggestions on what I could do with them? Anything else I can use? Thanks, as always, Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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