Reality based? Copper Pyramids and Orgones

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Greetings and Salutations all,

 

With the thread about Atlantean crystal healing etc., it brings to mind other

curiosities of mine. Those of the energies surrounding/in Copper pyramids and

what folks refer to as Orgone tools. Does anyone here have any experiences

with either one?

 

While I can personally attest to copper pyramids having an energy to them

that is remarkable, Orgones I have seen (not worked with) leave me scratching my

head.

 

I shall explain:

I crafted a copper pyramid just out of a thick copper wire, just a small 7 "

square base. Once I had completed it and put it to use in testing it's

energies, I did find that there definitely is something there. Made of strictly

wire

it is an open frame pyramid. I put my hand into the pyramid and was very

surprised at what I felt. Just to be certain, I called my husband in and had him

do

the same, not saying what I felt. He put his hand in, looked at me in

disbelief and took it out and then put it in again. He noticed the same thing I

did

without me giving him and inclination of what I had felt. There was a definite

and noticeable temperature change in the little space that the pyramid was now

taking up. The temperature inside the pyramid was cooler then the rest of the

room. I have also put leaves in the pyramid and beside it and the ones in the

pyramid stayed green and un-wilted for a longer period of time. It works

nicely for cleansing and charging crystals and water also.

 

Orgones: Many of the pieces I have seen being sold strike no real cord with

me. The reason they make me scratch my head is the analytical side of my brain

is trying to reason how exactly these are supposed to conduct energy when most

of them are crystals encased in plastic (silicone) ... which is NOT an energy

conductor but an insulator. (I also do not connect currently with amber and

jet like I know many folks do. They also feel to *plastic* to me.)

 

Does anyone have thoughts/personal dealings with these two energy tools?

 

Blessings to your eves.

ReNau

 

 

 

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renaumoon wrote:

 

>Greetings and Salutations all,

>

>With the thread about Atlantean crystal healing etc., it brings to mind other

>curiosities of mine. Those of the energies surrounding/in Copper pyramids and

>what folks refer to as Orgone tools. Does anyone here have any experiences

>with either one?

>

>

 

I don't have much experience with most of these I have had some strong

experiences with copper pyramids including a very small one one I

made in art school

I have never been drawn to work with Orgone generator things. I have

done some work with the Huna metal and plastic version and while they

did seem to hold and amplify energy a bit when activated with

intention it was less than plain shakti and or working with crystal

Deva in grids or holding a stone. More fuss and bother than value (

IMHO)

 

>While I can personally attest to copper pyramids having an energy to them

>that is remarkable, Orgones I have seen (not worked with) leave me scratching

my

>head.

>

>Orgones: Many of the pieces I have seen being sold strike no real cord with

>me. The reason they make me scratch my head is the analytical side of my brain

>is trying to reason how exactly these are supposed to conduct energy when most

>of them are crystals encased in plastic (silicone)

>

 

Some of the plastics can conduct and amplify energies but its kind of a

crap shoot

 

> .

>

 

 

>(I also do not connect currently with amber and

>jet like I know many folks do. They also feel to *plastic* to me.)

>

>

 

One reason for this is that a HUGE amount of what is sold as Amber and

as Jet IS plastic and altogether fake.

or is " treated " " reconstituted " " stabilized " and generally f***ed

with. Even Age is not a guarantee of genuineness Amber has been faked

for centuries if not millenia . I've also noticed though that some amber

which used to seem to have energy has now retreated and does not want

to be active at this time.

It can be very difficult to determine if the Amber is Amber I have

not had much jet but have encountered quite a bit of Jet that is

definitely plastic .

I have also encountered jet other stones ( Indian Sunstone for one)

recently that I suspect have been dipped or soaked in Acrylic to "

stabilize " them ugh!

I know that Fabeku had posted some ways on his list to help tell if

Amber is genuine but I have not been able to find the info again.

 

Peggy Jentoft

 

>Does anyone have thoughts/personal dealings with these two energy tools?

>

>

>

 

 

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Peggy & all,

 

>

I know that Fabeku had posted some ways on his list to help tell

if Amber is genuine but I have not been able to find the info

again.

>

 

You're absolutely right about Amber being one of several stone

spirits (Jet, Red Coral & Turquoise being the others) that are so

often and so easily faked. It can be all but impossible to tell

a " fake " at times. There are so many substitutes sold as Amber - some

natural (Copal), some not (plastics, glass, etc.)

 

There are a few tests that one can do to test the authenticity of

Amber. This assumes that the stone isn't set into jewelry. The

simplest, perhaps, is the salt water test. True Amber will float in a

salt water solution, whereas generally speaking Copal and most

plastics will sink. Mix up 6 to 8 tablespoons of salt in a cup of

water. Stir the salt until it has dissolved fully. The float the

Amber in the water. If it floats, it's likely Amber. This test isn't

100% accurate, as sometimes Copal or plastic may float, but, in my

experience, more often then not they sink, so this is a good place to

start.

 

The next test one can do is a simple smell test. This will help

differentiate natural from synthetic, though it's less useful for

telling the differences between Amber and Copal. Vigorously rub the

Amber on the palm of your hand (removing any jewelry first) and/or on

a piece of wool. This will heat the Amber up a bit and it should

release a scent that smells like Pine. Obviously plastics won't do

that. The Amber may also pick up a slight static charge, picking up

small bits of paper too, but this doesn't always happen.

 

Another test you can do involves the use of a simple solvent like

acetone (nail polish remover). Amber isn't harmed by acetone, though

plastic and Copal are. For that reason I wouldn't recommend trying

this if you believe the spirit is Copal, as there's no sense in

needlessly harming the Copal. Pour a bit of the acetone over the

stone and if the surface becomes tacky and/or the acetone changes

color, it's either plastic or Copal. Amber reacts very slowly to

acetone and doesn't get tacky or cause the acetone to change colors.

 

Lastly, people often talk about the hot needle test, where a needle

is held with pliers, heated and then touched to the stone. I don't

recommend this for a number of reasons, including the fact that it's

not terribly respectful to the Amber/Copa spirits if they are, in

fact, natural. There are other options that one can explore.

 

There are other tests (such as IR spectroscopy), but they require

access to advance lab equipment beyond the reach of most of us.

 

The reality is that the majority of Amber you see available isn't

Amber at all. It's one of a few stones that I will only adopt from

people whose knowledge and integrity I trust implicitly. The average

vendor generally lacks the knowledge and/or interest to discern

whether the Amber they're offering is real or not. And being told

it's real by a wholesaler doesn't count. <grin>

 

eBay is among the worst of all possible sources for Amber. There's

more plastic (and dyed stones, and heated stones, and other

synthetics, etc.) being offered as Amber there than nearly anywhere

else I've seen. In the end, it's best to adopt Amber from someone

that you know and trust. Real Amber is not generally inexpensive (at

least compared to the synthetics). If the price seems too good to be

true, it probably is. After all, it costs next to nothing to make

plastic, but true Amber definitely costs more at every level - from

wholesale to retail.

 

I hope that the above is helpful in some small way.

 

In Love,

Fabeku

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