Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 yes times have changed but traditions are not lost , In my people you do not chage and seek reward for your gift, and this has been hundreds of years,We will tell you if someone charges he or she is not a real healer or sharman,also times have chaged when old customs are called new age, people like myself are happy knowing we have helped anyone, and that we will continue to do this for many years to come,one small thing though why would anyone want to charge for using mother nature to help another soul. Claudia <whitedov Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:27:44 -0500 Re: [CrystalHW] Psychic Readings, Cards etc >from shaman training or birth, the cards are not a toys to impress friends with Not all psychics are shamans and not all are born with the gift, but develop it through the years. >that's why a person whom uses them must never charge money what they do, to do >so, would only be a mockery of such a gift. This is like saying a gifted artist should not charge for his paintings, or a singer, etc. The days when a healer was gifted for their services is over. People no longer gift the healer or psychic unless they are charged. There is no honor for them as there was long ago. If we did not charge we would starve to death. Times have changed. Namaste ('The god in me honors the god in you'), Claudia http://www.naturalloveliness.com 100% pure powdered mineral makeup. http://www.askclaudia.com Accurate Psychic Readings, Emotional Healing, Spiritual Counseling and much more. http://www.bodymindspirithealing.com Energetic vibrational supplements for the 21st century and beyond. http://www.lightworkersupplies.com The most beautiful metaphysical jewelry on the market today, Crystals, Fantasy Tees, Psychic Protection Seminar, and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Shamanism refers to the traditional healing and religious practices of Northern Asia (Siberia) and Mongolia. By extension, the concept of shamanism has been extented in common language to a range of traditional beliefs and practices that involve the ability to diagnose, cure, and sometimes cause human suffering by traversing the axis mundi and forming a special relationship with, or gaining control over, spirits. Shamans have been credited with the ability to control the weather, divination, the interpretation of dreams, astral projection, and traveling to upper and lower worlds. Shamanistic traditions have existed throughout the world since prehistoric times. Shamanism is based on the premise that the visible world is pervaded by invisible forces or spirits that affect the lives of the living. In contrast to animism and animatism, which any and usually all members of a society practice, shamanism requires specialized knowledge or abilities. It could be said that shamans are the experts employed by animists or animist communities. Shamans are not, however, often organized into full-time ritual or spiritual associations, as are priests. It is questionnable whether there was an -ism called " Shamanism " until such a thing was invented in the West out of the diverse practices of indigenous people in particular locations worldwide. Angelina , Dragonswife <dragonswife@t...> wrote: > > With all due respect, Tarot has nothing to do with Shamanism, and again > with all due respect the Cherokee Medicine workers do *not* mix their > Healing and Spiritual practices with outside systems - not even other > Native American systems, nor do they call themselves shamans. > > Money is only today's exchange medium, there *must* be an exchange of > energy of some kind, even if it's only the agreement that the healee do > good for someone else, or the Healer creates a burden of obligation. > > This last bit is my opinion, but is based on experience. > > The first bit was strenuously taught me by Native Elders very concerned > for the theft of their own Folkways by well-meaning (and not so > well-meaning) outsiders. > > Namaste, > Kate > > > TheKgscherQn4Evr@a... wrote: > > > > > > >yes anyone can be taught to read cards, and be lucky with them, but to fully > >appreciate and have a total understanding of the reading, the person whom > >does the reading must totally comprehend and have the vast knowledge either > >from shaman training or birth, the cards are not a toys to impress friends with > >or to make money with, they are for understanding and power to help others > >that's why a person whom uses them must never charge money what they do, to do > >so, would only be a mockery of such a gift. > > > >The Frog Does Not Swallow The Pond He Lives In. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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