Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I was reading your website rosequartz, and in it there are some pages about toxic minerals. i am confused because in melody's crystal guide and Gurudas's gem elixirs they do not say many of those listed as being toxic. for example sulfur seems to be ok to use in an elixir. Gurudas talks about how our body needs sulfur, hot springs are full of it, homeopathy use it, and its in all our food etc Amazonite is not said to be poisonous by Gurudas who is quite well known in crystal circles, (i thought) anyway, i hope you don't mind me discussing this with you as i am quite concerned that there is conflicting information, not sure who to " go by " wether that's a good thing in itself. Also i was thinking of getting an amazonite crystal for massaging with but do you think then that it is too poisonous to use on the skin? I hope i have understood correctly, let me know please what you think about all this, i am intrigued and a little disconcerted. As for radioactive minerals, where do i learn more about this? it worries me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Peggy.....what is a message wand? I've seen stones in catalogues that were listed as " messengers " but I don't know what that means. Blessings, Sharon O.K. using Amazonite as a massage wand. Don't think you should eat it. I reign with my let hand, I rule with my right, I'm lord of all darkness, I'm queen of the night. I've got the power-now do the march of the black queen. Freddie Mercury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 oysterstars wrote: > >I was reading your website rosequartz, and in it there are some pages about >toxic minerals. i am confused because in melody's crystal guide and Gurudas's >gem elixirs they do not say many of those listed as being toxic. for example >sulfur seems to be ok to use in an elixir. > Liz Gunther assembled the Toxic stones list though I have added a stone or two. Her list is from scientific and poison control sources. Gurudas and Melody are both metaphysical writers and I have always thought that both were a little light and incomplete on reporting safety issues. There are definitely cases where they do not warn about a stone should not be used in conventional elixirs. I think that you would probably be O.K. using Amazonite as a massage wand. Don't think you should eat it. Checking with poison control, too much Sulfur can be poisonous or irritate skin and cause difficulty breathing when inhaled. Yes I know we need some and it occurs naturally in many foods. Some people ( including myself) are rather sensitive to sulfur. Homeopathy uses minute amounts of substances and is in my opinion an energy modality rather than a medicinal method. The Radioactive stones information is from Atomic Rocks http://www.atomicrocks.com/index3.htm That page may have more information and resources. Peggy Jentoft > Gurudas talks about how our body >needs sulfur, hot springs are full of it, homeopathy use it, and its in all >our food etc Amazonite is not said to be poisonous by Gurudas who is quite well > known in crystal circles, (i thought) anyway, i hope you don't mind me >discussing this with you as i am quite concerned that there is conflicting >information, not sure who to " go by " wether that's a good thing in itself. Also i >was thinking of getting an amazonite crystal for massaging with but do you >think then that it is too poisonous to use on the skin? I hope i have understood >correctly, let me know please what you think about all this, i am intrigued >and a little disconcerted. As for radioactive minerals, where do i learn more >about this? it worries me! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thank you for this information I am very grateful. Please could you tell me of more websites or books that give this relevant and necessary information. I am worried about handling and meditating with particular stones now. I will be very grateful for any kind of information on toxicity of crystals. Thanks. If any of you could go through particular stones that are unhealthy for example, tigers eye? emerald calcite? clear quartz or even obsidian? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Fotograffa wrote: > > > > >Peggy.....what is a message wand? I've seen stones in catalogues that were >listed as " messengers " but I don't know what that means. > > A Massage wand is for rubbing the skin and muscles or applying pressure on the acupressure points or along the meridian channels I use quartz or river stone for massage. Messenger stones are said to have messages or information which can be received in meditation >Blessings, >Sharon > > >O.K. using Amazonite as a massage >wand. Don't think you should eat it. > > > > > > >I reign with my let hand, >I rule with my right, >I'm lord of all darkness, I'm queen of the night. >I've got the power-now do the march of the black queen. > >Freddie Mercury > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 In a message dated 10/12/2005 4:17:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rosequartz writes: A Massage wand is for rubbing the skin and muscles or applying pressure on the acupressure points or along the meridian channels I use quartz or river stone for massage. Messenger stones are said to have messages or information which can be received in meditation Thanks Peggy. I have bursitis really bad around my knees. Maybe it will help me. Blessings, Sharon I reign with my let hand, I rule with my right, I'm lord of all darkness, I'm queen of the night. I've got the power-now do the march of the black queen. Freddie Mercury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Oysterstars- > i am confused because in melody's crystal guide and Gurudas's gem elixirs they do not say many of those listed as being toxic. for example > I agree wholly with Peggy. Nearly every metaphysically oriented author I have read is dangerously lacking on reliable geological information, particularly when it comes to toxic and potentially dangerous stones. This is true for the authors you mentioned and many, many others. > Amazonite is not said to be poisonous by Gurudas who is quite well known in crystal circles... > Unfortunately being well known or having a popular book doesn't mean they're necessarily knowledgeable, especially about the geological aspects of the stone spirits. They may know something of their energy, but not their chemistry... at least not enough to recognize potential problems that could be easily encountered when someone makes a vibrational essences or even handles a particularly toxic stone! There's a moderately well known author that, in her book, encourages people to make essences with Cerussite, which contains about 78% Lead! Needless to say, that could be extremely dangerous if someone were to make this essence and then ingest it! There are also some stone spirits that could even be harmful if handled for a short period of time or if one doesn't wash their hands thoroughly after handling them. This is rarely mentioned, which is unfortunate as the risks are very real. I feel like authors have a certain responsibility to their audience. If you intend to advocate things like making and ingesting vibrational essences then the only responsible thing to do is to a) spend some serious time researching the toxicity of stone spirits or b) stress the need to co-create essences via alternative means to help prevent any problems. Authors who do any less are, I feel, failing in their responsibilities and potentially putting people at risk. And while I'd like to say it's the exception, I don't believe that's true. Even some stone spirits we generally think of as being safe, like Quartz for example, can and often do form with other stone spirits that may not be safe, particularly if soaked in water to co-create a vibrational essence. The problem with propogating the broad idea that " Quartz is safe for essences " is that people may fail to recognize a potentially harmful inclusion or association found in/on Quartz and make the assumption that it's Quartz so it's safe. I think it's imperative to err on the side of caution. There are ways to co-create essences, do a laying-on-of-stones and so on that are not only perfectly effective, but also perfectly safe. The biggest problem isn't that they don't exist or don't work, but that they're underexplored. As far as who to trust about potentially toxic stone spirits, I'd always trust people with solid geological knowledge of the stones over people whose knowledge and study has been limited to the metaphysical aspects alone. When in doubt, err on the side of caution. In Love, Fabeku Caretaker, Crystal_Spirit list crystal_spirit_2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Thanks to all of you who are sharing information on this topic. Do any of you know of frequently used stones that are toxic to handle, carry or wear? e.g., obsidian, hematite, garnet, red jasper, tiger eye, citrine, carnelian, aventurine, malachite, bloodstone, blue lace agate,chrysoprase, kyanite, lapis, sodalite, amethyst, flourite? I use these for chakra balancing for clients and myself. Smiles and Blessings, Lahna Fabeku <fabeku wrote: Oysterstars- > i am confused because in melody's crystal guide and Gurudas's gem elixirs they do not say many of those listed as being toxic. for example > I agree wholly with Peggy. Nearly every metaphysically oriented author I have read is dangerously lacking on reliable geological information, particularly when it comes to toxic and potentially dangerous stones. This is true for the authors you mentioned and many, many others. > Amazonite is not said to be poisonous by Gurudas who is quite well known in crystal circles... > Unfortunately being well known or having a popular book doesn't mean they're necessarily knowledgeable, especially about the geological aspects of the stone spirits. They may know something of their energy, but not their chemistry... at least not enough to recognize potential problems that could be easily encountered when someone makes a vibrational essences or even handles a particularly toxic stone! There's a moderately well known author that, in her book, encourages people to make essences with Cerussite, which contains about 78% Lead! Needless to say, that could be extremely dangerous if someone were to make this essence and then ingest it! There are also some stone spirits that could even be harmful if handled for a short period of time or if one doesn't wash their hands thoroughly after handling them. This is rarely mentioned, which is unfortunate as the risks are very real. I feel like authors have a certain responsibility to their audience. If you intend to advocate things like making and ingesting vibrational essences then the only responsible thing to do is to a) spend some serious time researching the toxicity of stone spirits or b) stress the need to co-create essences via alternative means to help prevent any problems. Authors who do any less are, I feel, failing in their responsibilities and potentially putting people at risk. And while I'd like to say it's the exception, I don't believe that's true. Even some stone spirits we generally think of as being safe, like Quartz for example, can and often do form with other stone spirits that may not be safe, particularly if soaked in water to co-create a vibrational essence. The problem with propogating the broad idea that " Quartz is safe for essences " is that people may fail to recognize a potentially harmful inclusion or association found in/on Quartz and make the assumption that it's Quartz so it's safe. I think it's imperative to err on the side of caution. There are ways to co-create essences, do a laying-on-of-stones and so on that are not only perfectly effective, but also perfectly safe. The biggest problem isn't that they don't exist or don't work, but that they're underexplored. As far as who to trust about potentially toxic stone spirits, I'd always trust people with solid geological knowledge of the stones over people whose knowledge and study has been limited to the metaphysical aspects alone. When in doubt, err on the side of caution. In Love, Fabeku Caretaker, Crystal_Spirit list crystal_spirit_2/ files are online at Http://www.solarraven.com/crystal-entry.html files, photos, and message archives can be found At: , photos, and message archives can be found At: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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