Crohn's Disease

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In a message dated 4/11/01 11:06:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tcmlorne writes:

 

 

I am working with two patients with crohn's disease. Both are female and have severe iron deficiencies. Most of their large intestines have been removed. I am looking to communicate with practitioners who have had experience working with crohn's patients.

 

Please contact me if you are willing to discuss some treatment plans regarding my patients. I will provide patterns and treatments providede to date if their are practitioners interested.

 

 

Lorne,

 

You can't use powders with these people due to the glutinous binders and excipients. Elimination-provocation strategies for determining sensitivities is necessary and......dietary therapy is more important than herbs for these people. There is a book called Food and the Gut Reaction by Elaine Godstchall...I have had the most reliable results with this method (it is a carbohydrate downloading method).

Herbally -- gotta have the case details......

 

Will

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Will, et al.

 

I personally have not had a problem working with herbal granules with Crohn's patients and have had often remarkable success with many of them using formulae in this form.

 

I do agree that diet can be crucial.

 

Mark

 

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WMorris116

Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:15 AM

Re: crohn's disease

In a message dated 4/11/01 11:06:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tcmlorne writes:

I am working with two patients with crohn's disease. Both are female and have severe iron deficiencies. Most of their large intestines have been removed. I am looking to communicate with practitioners who have had experience working with crohn's patients. Please contact me if you are willing to discuss some treatment plans regarding my patients. I will provide patterns and treatments providede to date if their are practitioners interested. Lorne, You can't use powders with these people due to the glutinous binders and excipients. Elimination-provocation strategies for determining sensitivities is necessary and......dietary therapy is more important than herbs for these people. There is a book called Food and the Gut Reaction by Elaine Godstchall...I have had the most reliable results with this method (it is a carbohydrate downloading method). Herbally -- gotta have the case details...... Will Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

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Perhaps he means herbs ground into powder which I could see as a problem

as opposed to freeze dried granules which disslove fully.

Heiko

Mark Reese wrote:

 

Will, et al. I

personally have not had a problem working with herbal granules with Crohn's

patients and have had often remarkable success with many of them using

formulae in this form. I do agree that diet can

be crucial. Mark

 

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Mark

Do you find with your Chrohn people that the TCM treatment slows down

, stops or relieves the problems. I have seen with other practitioners

that it seems necessary to continually need treatment , with having breaks

in between .

Heiko

Mark Reese wrote:

 

Will, et al. I

personally have not had a problem working with herbal granules with Crohn's

patients and have had often remarkable success with many of them using

formulae in this form. I do agree that diet can

be crucial. Mark

 

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WMorris116

 

Thursday, April 12, 2001 9:15

AM

Re:

crohn's disease

In a message

dated 4/11/01 11:06:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

tcmlorne

writes:

 

I

am working with two patients with crohn's disease. Both are female

and have severe

iron deficiencies. Most of their large intestines

have been removed.

I am looking to communicate with practitioners

who have had

experience working with crohn's patients.

Please contact

me if you are willing to discuss some treatment plans

regarding my

patients. I will provide patterns and treatments

providede to

date if their are practitioners interested.

 

Lorne,

You

can't use powders with these people due to the glutinous binders and

excipients.

Elimination-provocation strategies for determining sensitivities

is

necessary and......dietary therapy is more important than herbs for these

people.

There is a book called Food and the Gut Reaction by Elaine

Godstchall...I

have had the most reliable results with this method (it is a

carbohydrate

downloading method).

Herbally

-- gotta have the case details......

Will

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary

organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students

and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides

a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing

education.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Heiko,

 

With the exception of one of my successful Crohn's clients, they all seem to need regular treatments and long term herbal intervention. Often they are able to space acu treatments out as much as 3 weeks but more than than seems to start to cause some problems.

 

Mark Reese

 

 

[Guest guest]

I am referring to those crohn's patients who are gluten sensitive. The powders often have gluten as filler, binder or excipient.

 

Will

 

In a message dated 4/12/01 6:36:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, heiko writes:

 

 

 

Perhaps he means herbs ground into powder which I could see as a problem as opposed to freeze dried granules which disslove fully. Heiko Mark Reese wrote: Will, et al. I personally have not had a problem working with herbal granules with Crohn's patients and have had often remarkable success with many of them using formulae in this form. I do agree that diet can be crucial. Mark

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/12/01 9:47:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

 

 

starchy binder, not one that is glutinous

 

What is the source of the starch? Also....Godtschall's work defined ranges of carbs beyond glutens. Elimination provocation methods are an important key. I say first diet then get them to buy our herbs -- ethically speaking. This problem is very amenable to well designed diet therapy. And...I have found much more reliable results with bulk herbs than the powders for this condition.

 

Will

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, Heiko Lade <heiko@l...> wrote:

> Perhaps he means herbs ground into powder which I could see as a problem

> as opposed to freeze dried granules which disslove fully.

>

 

 

Binders vary between granule/powder companies. I believe many actually

use a starchy binder, not one that is glutinous. I know mine does.

 

[Guest guest]

Yes I have heard that diferent companies use different binders as a preservative

I think.I know I am not supposed to advertise on the list ........but one

company Chinawest doesn't use any fillers. This why they have a problem with

them drying up and soidifying sometimes when two

thirds have been used up. However they work well and I feel they are stronger .

Heiko

 

wrote:

 

> , Heiko Lade <heiko@l...> wrote:

> > Perhaps he means herbs ground into powder which I could see as a problem

> > as opposed to freeze dried granules which disslove fully.

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> Binders vary between granule/powder companies. I believe many actually

> use a starchy binder, not one that is glutinous. I know mine does.

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> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare

practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in

Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including

board approved online continuing education.

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[Guest guest]

who is china west

Alon

 

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Heiko Lade

Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:10 PM

Re: Re: crohn's disease

Yes I have heard that diferent companies use different binders as a preservative I think.I know I am not supposed to advertise on the list ........but one company Chinawest doesn't use any fillers. This why they have a problem with them drying up and soidifying sometimes when twothirds have been used up. However they work well and I feel they are stronger .Heiko wrote:> , Heiko Lade <heiko@l...> wrote:> > Perhaps he means herbs ground into powder which I could see as a problem> > as opposed to freeze dried granules which disslove fully.> >>> Binders vary between granule/powder companies. I believe many actually> use a starchy binder, not one that is glutinous. I know mine does.>>> Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.>> http://www..org>>

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Alon

Chinawest is a company that makes freeze dried individual Chinese

herb granules that are used in the Chinese hospital system. I get them

from Australia .I don't know if they are avaqilable in the States.

Heiko

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed

healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics

specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional

services, including board approved online continuing education.

 

 

[Guest guest]

thanks I do not think they are available

Alon

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In a message dated 4/15/01 1:54:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

 

There are many other forms of binder such as tapioca. And yes you are right, glutens are proteinaceous. It is important to know what binder is used. If there is a corn sensitivity --- then to risk the obvious -- powder concentrates using corn starch can't be used....another medium of delivery is required.

 

I believe gluten is a protein, not a starch. Some just use corn starch or potato starch

 

Elimination provocation methods are an important key. I > say first diet then get them to buy our herbs -- ethically speaking. This > problem is very amenable to well designed diet therapy.

 

I think diet therapy is important, but many of the "sensitivities" disappear after well constructed herbal therapy, so it is unclear which is more ethical. recommending permanently restricted diet or selling herbs that cure the problem.

 

 

That's all true -- sometimes....I am not recommending permanent diet alteration, it isn't necessary if handled properly....The commitment is to empowering the patient to manage their own condition.

Bottom line: the disease process is inherited or acquired. This evaluation affects therapeutic choices. If the disease is acquired, it makes more sense to understand what in the life is at cause. Typically, it is related to what and how a person eats.

 

Will

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, WMorris116@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/12/01 9:47:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> @i... writes:

>

>

> > starchy binder, not one that is glutinous

>

> What is the source of the starch? Also....Godtschall's work defined ranges of

> carbs beyond glutens.

 

I believe gluten is a protein, not a starch. Some just use corn starch

or potato starch

 

Elimination provocation methods are an important key. I

> say first diet then get them to buy our herbs -- ethically speaking. This

> problem is very amenable to well designed diet therapy.

 

I think diet therapy is important, but many of the " sensitivities "

disappear after well constructed herbal therapy, so it is unclear which

is more ethical. recommending permanently restricted diet or selling

herbs that cure the problem.

 

And...I have found

> much more reliable results with bulk herbs than the powders for this

> condition.

 

Not me. compliance remains poor with bulk.

 

[Guest guest]

Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:36 AM

Atma Namaste,

 

What is the protocol for Crohn's Disease? I cannot locate it in the texts and I

have saved my emails since I joined the group. I'm sorry that I have missed it

if it has already been sent.

 

Thank you so much!

Warmest regards,

 

Lyn

 

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MEDICAL INFORMATION: CROHN'S DISEASE

 

" Crohn's disease causes inflammation in the small intestine.

Crohn's disease usually occurs in the lower part of the small intestine, called

the ileum, but it can affect any part of the digestive tract, from the mouth to

the anus.

 

The inflammation extends deep into the lining of the affected

organ. The inflammation can cause pain and can make the

intestines empty frequently, resulting in diarrhea.

Crohn's disease is an inflammatory bowel disease (IBD), the

general namefor diseases that cause inflammation in the intestines. Crohn's

disease can be difficult to diagnose because its symptoms are similar to other

intestinal disorders such as irritable bowel syndrome and to another type of IBD

called ulcerative colitis. Ulcerative colitis causes inflammation and ulcers in

the top layer of the lining of the large intestine.

 

Crohn's disease affects men and women equally and seems to run

in some families. About 20 percent of people with Crohn's disease have a blood

relative with some form of IBD, most often a brother or sister and sometimes a

parent or child. Crohn's disease may also be called ileitis or enteritis.

 

What Causes Crohn's Disease?

Theories about what causes Crohn's disease abound, but none has

been proven. The most popular theory is that the body's immune system

reacts to a virus or a bacterium by causing ongoing inflammation in the

intestine.People with Crohn's disease tend to have abnormalities

of the immune system, but doctors do not know whether these

abnormalities are a cause or result of the disease. Crohn's disease is not

caused by emotional distress.

 

What Are the Symptoms?

The most common symptoms of Crohn's disease are abdominal pain,

often in the lower right area, and diarrhea. Rectal bleeding, weight

loss, and fever may also occur. Bleeding may be serious and persistent, leading

to anemia.

 

Children with Crohn's disease may suffer delayed development and

stunted growth. "

 

 

PRANIC HEALING TREATMENT:

 

1. Apply general sweeping.

2. Sweep the front and back solar plexus and the navel chakras,

the stomach, and the small & large intestines thoroughly. Energize

solar plexus and navel chakras with LWB, then with LWV. Repeat the

sweeping and energizing on the affected part(s) several times until patient is

relieved.

3. Sweep front and back heart chakra. Energize heart through the

back heart chakra with LWG, then with LWV.

4. Sweep the basic chakra. Energize with LWR.

5. Repeat treatment 2 to 3 times a week.

6. Stabilize and release the projected energy.

7. You may also follow pranic healing protocol on " Enhancing the

Immunity and Defense System, " Advanced Pranic Healing book.

 

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With Loving Blessings,

The PHQandA Team

 

Source: The books written by MASTER CHOA KOK SUI including:

Miracles Through Pranic Healing

Advanced Pranic Healing

Pranic Psychotherapy

Pranic Crystal Healing

 

NOTICE:

1. Pranic Healing is not intended to replace orthodox medicine, but rather to

complement it. If symptoms persist or if the ailment is severe, please consult

immediately a medical doctor and a Certified Pranic Healer.

 

2. Pranic Healers who are are not medical doctors should not prescribe nor

interfere with prescribed medications and/or medical treatments. ~ Master

Choa Kok Sui

 

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