Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 Can anyone suggest a formula or individual herbs to prevent or cure altitude sickness, I have a patient that is traveling to the Andes to do some mountain climbing and will be at elevations from 9,000 to 19,000 feet if they summit. Thanks IRV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 The Institute for Traditional Medicine's START group (one of the most valuable TCM learning experiences I've had) published a monograph about altitude sickness formulas a few years back. I've used them with quite a few patients, as well as myself, and found them to be exceptionally useful. I would contact them first, they'll fax you the article. If you don't have a fax machine and need it more rapidly I'll dig up the formula and email it to you. Mark Reese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 Coca leaves, chewed, or in tea will relief all altitude symptoms. At that altitude the coca will bring a person " down " . >Can anyone suggest a formula or individual herbs to prevent or cure altitude >sickness, I have a patient that is traveling to the Andes to do some mountain >climbing and will be at elevations from 9,000 to 19,000 feet if they summit. >Thanks IRV L.Ac. acupuncture & herbs safe, compassionate care 1823 Wilshire Blvd. #610 Santa Monica, CA 90403 310 264-9197 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 There is an article at; http://www.itmonline.org/disorder.htm Reduction of Mountain Sickness with Chinese Herbs The only personal experience I have is that Tienchi helps me when at high altitude. Gilbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 on 10/5/00 7:30 AM, Irvcmarcus at Irvcmarcus wrote: > Can anyone suggest a formula or individual herbs to prevent or cure altitude > sickness, I have a patient that is traveling to the Andes to do some mountain > climbing and will be at elevations from 9,000 to 19,000 feet if they summit. > Thanks IRV > There are a number of medicinals that are used in China to treat altitude sickness. . . . one that comes to mind is wu wei zi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 I used to have terrible problems with altitude sickness. The best things I found were SLOW ascents, with plenty of time to stop and walk around on the way up. A day or two at the top altitude to accomodate before I had to do something important. Deep breathing exercises including a spell of rapid hyperventilation. Not wearing or carrying something that would reduce circulation (like a backpack or tight pants). And plenty of oatstraw infusion or a gentle diuretic might help that fluid retention. (1 oz. oatstraw/quart water, inused overnight) Siberian ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus, Ci wu jia) has a good track record for dealing with altitude and low oxygen environments. It is used by mountain climbers, athletes, the Russian Olympic team and Soviet cosmonauts (for really high altitudes). I remember one study where skiers took a single dose before a race and found fewer problems dealing with cold as well as physical endurance (especially when not fully-trained). Fenugreek tea also helps prevent and arrest the problem (external invasion by climactic factors). A friend concocted a successful altitude sickness tincture of equal parts of Gingko biloba leaf tincture, Cratageus tincture, gotu kola tincture, & Panax quinquefolia tincture, all 1:5 to be taken 1/2 tsp qid 3 days before ascending and for the duration of the climb. A 2 oz bottle at that dosage would have lasted a little over a week. Longer trekkers seem to acclimatize well and after a week or so can way diminish or quit the herbs altogether. She also suggests chlorophyll for a month before the trip to increasing the O2 carrying capacity of the cells. The Ci wu jia should do that as well. My South American colleagues tell me that drinking coca leaf tea is the only way to prevent Andean altitude sickness, besides hyperbaric oxygen which is found in Lima and less expensive than in the US. Maybe your friend can research one or the other. Karen Vaughan CreationsGarden *************************************** Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment. " Too many people overvalue what they are not and undervalue what they are. " --Malcolm Forbes ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2000 Report Share Posted October 5, 2000 I've had flatladers have an easy time adjusting to 12,000 feet in the Rocky Mountains on hikes from their sealevel homes. I had them take Cataplex E-2 from Standard Process West for a few weeks(3) before visiting. Standard Process West's phone is 970-416-9011 and they say this is a common supplement taken for climbing some of the worlds's highest mountains. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Atma Namaste, I am an Associate Certified Pranic Healer. One of friends has recently returned from a trip to the Himalayas. He was feeling quite awful on his return and his physician diagnosed Altitude Sickness. Can I provide Pranic treatment along with his medications? What should be the methodology and precautions? Abhijit Roy =========================== Dear Abhijit, Atma namaste. Thank you for your email. Medical Background: Altitude Illness Travelers whose itineraries will take them above an altitude of 1,829-2,438m (6,000-8,000ft) should be aware of the risk of altitude illness. Travelers are exposed to higher altitudes in a number of ways: by flying into a high-altitude city, by driving to a high-altitude destination, or by hiking or climbing in high mountains. Examples of high-altitude cities with airports are Cuzco, Peru (3,000m; 11,000ft); La Paz, Bolivia (3,444m; 11,300ft); and Lhasa, Tibet (3,749m; 12,500ft). Travelers vary considerably in their susceptibility to altitude illness, and no screening tests are available to predict someone's risk for altitude illness. Susceptibility to altitude illness appears to be inherent in some way and is not affected by training or physical fitness. How a traveler has responded in the past to exposure to high altitude is the most reliable guide for future trips but is not infallible. Travelers with underlying medical conditions, such as congestive heart failure, myocardial ischemia (angina), sickle cell disease, or any form of pulmonary insufficiency, should be advised to consult a doctor familiar with high-altitude illness before undertaking such travel. The risk of new ischemic heart disease in previously healthy travelers does not appear to be increased at high altitudes. Most people do not have visual problems at high altitude. However, at very high altitudes some persons who had incisional radial keratotomy (a procedure widely performed from the late 1970s to the early 1990s) may develop acute farsightedness. The laser surgery for vision correction that replaced radial keratotomy (e.g., Lasik and other procedures) is not associated with visual disturbances at high altitudes. Altitude illness is the result of traveling to a higher altitude faster than the body can adapt to that new altitude. Fluid leakage from blood vessels appears to be the main cause of symptoms. Altitude illness is divided into three syndromes: acute mountain sickness (AMS), high-altitude cerebral edema (HACE), and high-altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE). AMS is the most common form of altitude illness and, while it can occur at altitudes as low as 1,219-1,829m (4,000-6,000ft), most often it occurs in abrupt ascents to >2,743m (>9,000ft). Symptoms of AMS - The symptoms resemble those of an alcohol hangover: headache, fatigue, loss of appetite, nausea, and, occasionally, vomiting. The onset of AMS is delayed, usually beginning 6-12 hours after arrival at a higher altitude, but occasionally greater than or equal to 24 hours after ascent. HACE is considered a severe progression of AMS. In addition to the AMS symptoms, lethargy becomes profound, confusion can manifest, and ataxia will be demonstrated during the tandem gait test. A traveler who fails the tandem gait test has HACE by definition, and immediate descent is mandatory. HAPE can occur by itself or in conjunction with HACE. The initial symptoms are increased breathlessness with exertion, and eventually increased breathlessness at rest. The diagnosis can usually be made when breathlessness fails to resolve after several minutes of rest. At this point, it is critical to descend to a lower altitude. HAPE can be more rapidly fatal than HACE. Determining an itinerary that will avoid any occurrence of altitude illness is difficult because of variations in individual susceptibility, as well as in starting points and terrain. The main point of instructing travelers about altitude illness is not to prevent any possibility of altitude illness, but to prevent death from altitude illness. The onset of symptoms and clinical course are sufficiently slow and predictable that there is no reason for someone to die from altitude illness unless trapped by weather or geography in a situation in which descent is impossible. The three rules that travelers should be made aware of to prevent death from altitude illness are: -Learn the early symptoms of altitude illness and be willing to admit that you have them. -Never ascend to sleep at a higher altitude when experiencing any of the symptoms of altitude illness, no matter how minor they seem. -Descend if the symptoms become worse while resting at the same altitude. Studies have shown that travelers who are on organized group treks to high-altitude locations are more likely to die of altitude illness than travelers who are by themselves. This is most likely the result of group pressure (whether perceived or real) and a fixed itinerary. The most important aspect of preventing severe altitude illness is to refrain from further ascent until all symptoms of altitude illness have disappeared. Children are as susceptible to altitude illness as adults, and young children who cannot talk can show very nonspecific symptoms, such as loss of appetite and irritability. There are no studies or case reports of harm to a fetus if the mother travels briefly to high altitude during pregnancy. However, most authorities recommend that pregnant women stay below 3,658m (12,000ft) if possible. There are medications that have shown to be useful in the prevention and treatment of altitude illness. (Please consult your medical doctor for your specific requirements.) HAPE is always associated with increased pulmonary artery pressure. Drugs that can selectively lower pulmonary artery pressure have been shown to be of benefit in preventing and treating HAPE. For trekking groups and expeditions going into remote high-altitude areas, where descent to a lower altitude could be problematic, a pressurization bag (the Gamow bag) can prove extremely beneficial. Persons with altitude illness can be zipped into the bag, and a foot pump can increase the pressure inside the bag by 2 lbs. per in2, mimicking a descent of 1,500-1,800m (5,000-6,000ft), depending on the starting altitude. The total packed weight of the bag and pump is approximately 6.5kg. For most travelers, the best way to avoid altitude illness is to plan a gradual ascent, with extra rest days at intermediate altitudes.... Source : David Shlim, Yellow Book, Chapter 6 – Non-Infectious Risks During Travel, Travelers' Health: Health Information for International Travel, 2005-2006 The Yellow Book is published every two years by CDC as a reference for those who advise international travelers of health risks. The Yellow Book is written primarily for health care providers, although others might find it useful. Pranic Healing: 1. Invoke and scan before, during and after treatment. 2. Teach the patient proper slow deep abdominal Pranic Breathing 6-3-6-3. Wait until the patient has completed 12 cycles of Pranic Breathing before starting the treatment. Ask the patient to continue Pranic Breathing during treatment. 3. General sweeping twice using LWG. 4. Localized thorough sweeping on all the major chakras and vital organs using LWG. 5. Localized thorough sweeping on the head area, the ajna chakra, forehead chakra, crown chakra, temple minor chakras and back head minor chakra. Energize them with LWG then with oridnary LWV. 6. Localized thorough sweeping on the jaw minor chakras, throat chakra and secondary throat chakra. Energize them with LWG then with ordinary LWV. 7. Localized thorough sweeping on the ribs and the entire spine. 8. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back heart chakra. Energize through the back heart chakra with LWG then with more of ordinary LWV. 9. Localized thorough sweeping on the front, sides and back of the lungs. Energize through the back of the lungs with LWG, LWR then ordinary LWV. 10. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back spleen chakra. 11. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back solar plexus chakra and the liver. Energize the solar plexus chakra with LWG, LWB then ordinary LWV. More experienced advanced Pranic Healers, please apply the cleansing the internal organs technique. 12. Localized thorough sweeping on the basic chakra, sex chakra, navel chakra and the lower abdominal area. Energize the chakras with LWR. 13. Localized thorough sweeping on the arms and legs and their minor chakras. Energize the minor chakras of the arms and legs with LWR. 14. Stabilize and release projected pranic energy. 15. Repeat treatment 2 to 3 times per week. 16. For patient - Slow deep abdominal Pranic Breathing for 5 minutes per session, one session every 3 to 6 hours everyday. - Light physical exercise daily. Love, Marilette Source materials for all MCKS Pranic Healing protocols are taken from the following books by Master Choa Kok Sui: * Miracles Through Pranic Healing * Advanced Pranic Healing * Pranic Psychotherapy * Pranic Crystal Healing. NOTICE: 1. Pranic Healing is not intended to replace orthodox medicine, but rather to complement it. If symptoms persist or if the ailment is severe, please consult immediately a medical doctor and a Certified Pranic Healer. 2. Pranic Healers who are are not medical doctors should not prescribe nor interfere with prescribed medications and/or medical treatments. ~ Master Choa Kok Sui " Miracles do not happen in contradiction to nature, but only to that which is known to us in nature. " ~ St. Augustine Ask or read the up to date Pranic Healing protocols by joining the group through http://health./ MCKS Pranic Healing gateway website: http://www.pranichealing.org. ______________________________\ ____ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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