Guest guest Posted March 15, 2001 Report Share Posted March 15, 2001 You may want to ask about sickle cell anemia and TCM on the discusschineseherbs group. There may be someone on that list with more access to information than I have been able to find. Victoria _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 >One of my friend's son is suffering from Sickle Cell Anemia since 4years. >Now he is 5 yrs old. He is living in Madras, India. He has been prescribed >for changing his blood every 4 >months by allopathic doctors. I advised him to consult with Acupuncture >professionals. Could you please some one explain about this problem and >how >to treat with acupuncture or any Chinese herbal medicines? Please advise >your kind suggestions. I've been searching through the literature, and so far haven't been able to find much on sickle cell anemia. I'm passing on what I do have so far. I'm forwarding in an article from healingpeople.com which has a few mentions of sickle cell anemia, but doesn't give any TCM info on sickle cell anemia. In the next few days I'll be doing posts on the TCM definition of Blood, the Organs most concerned with the Blood in TCM, and Jing disorders. In general, hereditary conditions are classified as a type of Jing (Essence) disorder. Here is some basic background information on sickle cell anemia for readers without a background in Western anatomy and physiology. Sickle cell anemia is classified as one of the hereditary hemoglobinopathies. This means that there is a defect in the hemoglobin in red blood cells, and this was inherited from one or both parents. Hemoglobin is the pignment in red blood cells which gives them their color and which is responsible for carrying oxygen throughout the body. There are three types of hemoglobin which is present in adults. Most of it - 97% - is hemoglobin A. Hemoglobin A has 2 alpha and 2 beta chains. Sickle (S) hemoglobin has a difference from A of a single amino acid in the beta chains. Basic genetics background info (simplified): Most of the traits that human beings have are determined by genes inherited from the mother and genes inherited from the father. There are a few that only are inherited from the mother because they're not found on the male Y chromosome (males are XY and females are XX), but this doesn't concern us here. There are three genes from the mother and 3 from the father when it comes to hemoglobin and hereditary hemoglobinopathies. These are designated A, C, and D. One gene for A comes from the mother, one gene for A comes from the father. It's the A gene which is involved in sickling. Genes are classified as to being dominant or recessive. If a gene is dominant, only one of it is needed for the trait to be expressed. If a gene is recessive, it has to be inherited from both the mother and the father in order for the trait to be expressed. For example, the gene for skin pigmentation is dominant. If both of the parents pass along this gene (PP) or if just one of the parents pass along the dominant P gene for pigmentation (Pp), the child will have skin pigmentation. If both parents pass along the p gene (pp), the child will be an albino. This is why parents with pigmentation can produce an albino child. The recessive gene has been passed down in both families but never manifested until each parent passed on the recessive p gene. In addition to genes being either dominant or recessive, there is a third category called incomplete dominance. What this means is that if one of these genes get passed on, it's only partially expressed. The sickle (S) gene is an example of incomplete dominance. This means that if a person inherits one normal A gene and one S gene, the person will have both normal and sickling hemoglobin. A person who is A/S will is said to have sickle cell trait. A person with sickle cell trait can live his or her entire life unaware that he or she has a problem as blood counts, red cell morphology, and red cell life span usually are normal. A/S rarely causes symptoms or signs unless the person is subjected to an environment where there is not enough oxygen - like high altitude flying, like climbing a very high mountain, etc. In fact, having one S gene and one A gene can be a survival advantage in some parts of the world. People with the A/S genotype have increased resistence to malaria. When a person inherits two S genes (S/S), this is sickle cell anemia. The S gene occurs primarily in people of central African ancestory, but it is NOT limited to this racial group. In addition, sickling can occur in other genetic disorders besides sickle trait and sickle cell anemia - like sickle thalassemia. There are things which can go wrong with hemoglobin C and hemoglobin D as well as with hemoglobin A. Sometimes it takes some specialized testing to determine if a condition is sickle cell anemia or sickle cell-hemoglobin D disease or sickle thalassemia or sickle cell-persistent fetal hemoglobin syndrome. One distinguishing characteristic is that enlargement of the spleen usually does not occur in adults with sickle cell anemia but does occur in some of the other hemogloginopathies. Sickle cells will form when the concentration of oxygen is too low or the pH of the blood becomes too acidic. Instead of being the normal round shape that red blood cells are, the red blood cells will assume an elongated or sickle shape when oxygen concentration is low. Needless to say, these funny shaped red blood cells have trouble making it through capillaries. There can be circulation problems, and thrombosis is a risk. Other symptoms of sickle cell anemia include recurrent attacks of fever, pain the in limbs and the abdomen, anemia, jaundice, and reticulocytosis. The most debilitating thing about sickle cell anemia is not the anemia but the pain. I found one reference to sickle cell disease in Chinese Herbal Medicine Formulas & Strategies, compiled and translated by Dan Bensky and Randall Barolet. _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2001 Report Share Posted March 16, 2001 >One of my friend's son is suffering from Sickle Cell Anemia since 4years. >Now he is 5 yrs old. He is living in Madras, India. He has been prescribed >for changing his blood every 4 >months by allopathic doctors. I advised him to consult with Acupuncture >professionals. Could you please some one explain about this problem and >how >to treat with acupuncture or any Chinese herbal medicines? Please advise >your kind suggestions. I've been searching through the literature, and so far haven't been able to find much on sickle cell anemia. I'm passing on what I do have so far. I'm forwarding in an article from healingpeople.com which has a few mentions of sickle cell anemia, but doesn't give any TCM info on sickle cell anemia. In the next few days I'll be doing posts on the TCM definition of Blood, the Organs most concerned with the Blood in TCM, and Jing disorders. In general, hereditary conditions are classified as a type of Jing (Essence) disorder. Here is some basic background information on sickle cell anemia for readers without a background in Western anatomy and physiology. Sickle cell anemia is classified as one of the hereditary hemoglobinopathies. This means that there is a defect in the hemoglobin in red blood cells, and this was inherited from one or both parents. Hemoglobin is the pignment in red blood cells which gives them their color and which is responsible for carrying oxygen throughout the body. There are three types of hemoglobin which is present in adults. Most of it - 97% - is hemoglobin A. Hemoglobin A has 2 alpha and 2 beta chains. Sickle (S) hemoglobin has a difference from A of a single amino acid in the beta chains. Basic genetics background info (simplified): Most of the traits that human beings have are determined by genes inherited from the mother and genes inherited from the father. There are a few that only are inherited from the mother because they're not found on the male Y chromosome (males are XY and females are XX), but this doesn't concern us here. There are three genes from the mother and 3 from the father when it comes to hemoglobin and hereditary hemoglobinopathies. These are designated A, C, and D. One gene for A comes from the mother, one gene for A comes from the father. It's the A gene which is involved in sickling. Genes are classified as to being dominant or recessive. If a gene is dominant, only one of it is needed for the trait to be expressed. If a gene is recessive, it has to be inherited from both the mother and the father in order for the trait to be expressed. For example, the gene for skin pigmentation is dominant. If both of the parents pass along this gene (PP) or if just one of the parents pass along the dominant P gene for pigmentation (Pp), the child will have skin pigmentation. If both parents pass along the p gene (pp), the child will be an albino. This is why parents with pigmentation can produce an albino child. The recessive gene has been passed down in both families but never manifested until each parent passed on the recessive p gene. In addition to genes being either dominant or recessive, there is a third category called incomplete dominance. What this means is that if one of these genes get passed on, it's only partially expressed. The sickle (S) gene is an example of incomplete dominance. This means that if a person inherits one normal A gene and one S gene, the person will have both normal and sickling hemoglobin. A person who is A/S will is said to have sickle cell trait. A person with sickle cell trait can live his or her entire life unaware that he or she has a problem as blood counts, red cell morphology, and red cell life span usually are normal. A/S rarely causes symptoms or signs unless the person is subjected to an environment where there is not enough oxygen - like high altitude flying, like climbing a very high mountain, etc. In fact, having one S gene and one A gene can be a survival advantage in some parts of the world. People with the A/S genotype have increased resistence to malaria. When a person inherits two S genes (S/S), this is sickle cell anemia. The S gene occurs primarily in people of central African ancestory, but it is NOT limited to this racial group. In addition, sickling can occur in other genetic disorders besides sickle trait and sickle cell anemia - like sickle thalassemia. There are things which can go wrong with hemoglobin C and hemoglobin D as well as with hemoglobin A. Sometimes it takes some specialized testing to determine if a condition is sickle cell anemia or sickle cell-hemoglobin D disease or sickle thalassemia or sickle cell-persistent fetal hemoglobin syndrome. One distinguishing characteristic is that enlargement of the spleen usually does not occur in adults with sickle cell anemia but does occur in some of the other hemogloginopathies. Sickle cells will form when the concentration of oxygen is too low or the pH of the blood becomes too acidic. Instead of being the normal round shape that red blood cells are, the red blood cells will assume an elongated or sickle shape when oxygen concentration is low. Needless to say, these funny shaped red blood cells have trouble making it through capillaries. There can be circulation problems, and thrombosis is a risk. Other symptoms of sickle cell anemia include recurrent attacks of fever, pain the in limbs and the abdomen, anemia, jaundice, and reticulocytosis. The most debilitating thing about sickle cell anemia is not the anemia but the pain. I found one reference to sickle cell disease in Chinese Herbal Medicine Formulas & Strategies, compiled and translated by Dan Bensky and Randall Barolet. _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 > >One of my friend's son is suffering from Sickle Cell Anemia since 4years. > >Now he is 5 yrs old. He is living in Madras, India. He has been prescribed > >for changing his blood every 4 > >months by allopathic doctors. I advised him to consult with Acupuncture > >professionals. Could you please some one explain about this problem and > >how > >to treat with acupuncture or any Chinese herbal medicines? Please advise > >your kind suggestions. Judy Fitzgerald reported: > symptoms of > sickle cell anemia include recurrent attacks of fever, pain the in limbs and > the abdomen, anemia, jaundice, and reticulocytosis. > > The most debilitating thing about sickle cell anemia is not the anemia but > the pain. Sometimes the best way to understand a pathology in TCM terms is to look at how it presents in the patient rather than Western medical information. What we have in these last two paragraphs are some signs and symptoms that begin to paint a picture that can look a lot like a TCM diagnosis. These symptoms do begin to look like a blood deficiency in TCM terms. A low grade fever can arise from either a deficiency of Yin (body fluids in general) or Blood (the red fluid in particular). Pain in the limbs could be due to a lack of Liver Blood unable to nourish the tendons and sinews. Or perhaps the deficiency of Blood leading to a stagnation issue. Stagnations hurt. Again, the Liver is implicated as it is in charge of keeping the Qi and Blood flowing. (The Heart pushes the blood, but the Liver lubricates the vessels.) Pain in the abdomen could be just about anything, but pain is usually due to something causing a stagnation of Qi or Blood, and a deficiency of Liver Blood is one of these possible causes. Anemia would obviously be related to a Blood deficiency, even in TCM. Jaundice is generally considered a problem of dampness with or without heat. I don't really see the connection to Blood from the TCM standpoint. Except perhaps that the Blood is said to be stored by the Liver and jaundice is often considered " damp heat " in the Liver... but that's a really weak relationship. Reticulocytosis is another blood condition, not a symptom that one would necessarily see with the naked eye, unless the naked eye was wearing a microscope. It is a higher number of a certain type of blood cells than is normally seen in the blood stream. If there are symptoms associated with this condition, I don't know what they are. Added to the above information, as a practitioner, I would also include the point about this being hereditary. Things that get passed on from one generation to the next tend to have something to do with the Kidneys in Chinese medicine. The Kidneys and Liver are really close as far as internal organs go. There's an old Chinese medicine saying that says " The Kidneys and the Liver come from the same source. " Which is to say that when the Kidneys are diseased, it often shows up in the Liver. If memory serves me I believe that in the growth of the fetus, the Liver and Kidneys do actually arise from the same tissue early on in our growth. To say that there is a genetic blood pathology really brings this statement home about the Kidneys (genetic) and the Liver (Blood deficiency/sickle cell anemia) arising from the same source. So, how to fix this problem? We can certainly tonify and stimulate the movement of the blood with formulas such as Si Wu Tang and acupuncture points such as UB 17 with UB 18 and UB 20. We can perhaps effect future generations within the blood line too. The stronger the parents are at the time of conception (and the stronger the mother during her pregnancy) the less Kidney related issues the baby is going to have, so treating the Kidneys of the parents prior to conception can potentially limit the amount of children who manifest this pathology. Of course, we don't treat people based solely on what we *think* may be going on. We'd also like to see a thin pulse, a pale tongue, dry eyes, brittle nails, thinning hair and a few other symptoms to really support the diagnosis of Liver Blood deficiency. That done, we're on our way! Be well. -- Al Stone L.Ac. <AlStone http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2001 Report Share Posted March 25, 2001 >To say that there is a genetic blood pathology really brings this >statement home about the Kidneys (genetic) and the Liver (Blood >deficiency/sickle cell anemia) arising from the same source. Thanks for another great post and a lot of good info. >We can perhaps effect future generations within the blood line too. The >stronger the parents are at the time of conception (and the stronger the >mother during her pregnancy) the less Kidney related issues the baby is >going to have, so treating the Kidneys of the parents prior to >conception can potentially limit the amount of children who manifest >this pathology. BTW, there's an article in the NY Times about all the problems scientists are running into with cloning. At best there's a 3% success rate, and all kinds of unexpected problems are cropping up at various life stages of the organisms. The list of problems reads like a list of Jing Deficiency symptoms. Victoria _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Namaste Ma'am, This is Sanu I want the guidance for the treatment of Sickle Cell two types- trait in which RBCs are sickle shaped Anemia-in which RBCs and Haemoglobin is defected. Thank you Sanu ==================================================== Dear Sanu, Namaste. Medical Background: Sickle cell disease is an inherited condition. Two genes for the sickle hemoglobin must be inherited from one's parents in order to have the disease. A person who receives a gene for sickle cell disease from one parent and a normal gene from the other has a condition called " sickle cell trait. " Sickle cell trait produces no symptoms or problems for most people. Sickle cell disease can neither be contracted nor passed on to another person. The severity of sickle cell disease varies tremendously. Some people with sickle cell disease lead lives that are nearly normal. Others are less fortunate, and can suffer from a variety of complications. Some of the common symptoms seen in patients suffering from sickle cell anaemia include: - Anaemia - Intermittent Jaundice - Severe joint pains - Recurrent infections These symptoms usually appear between the ages of four and five and severity increases with age. Most of the patients do not require blood transfusion. Careful history, presence of the above mentioned symptoms and caste constitute basis for diagnosis of sickle cell anemia. Pranic Healing: Ref: Advanced Pranic Healing by Master Choa Kok Sui. 1. Invoke and scan before, during and after treatment. 2. General sweeping several times. 3. Localized thorough sweeping on the crown, forehead, ajna, back head and throat chakras with LEV or EV. Energize with LEV or EV. The emphasis of treatment is on the ajna which must be thoroughly cleansed and energized. Rescan and repeat, if necessary. 4. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back heart using LEV or EV. Energize through the back heart with LEV or EV. This step is very important. 5. Localized thorough sweeping on the front, sides and back of the lungs. Energize the back of the lungs with LWG then with more of LWV. 6. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back spleen laternately with LWG and ordinary LWV. For proficient pranic healers: Energize the spleen chakra with EV with the intention of neutralizing the abnormal cells. This has to be done with caution. For not so proficient pranic healers: just use ordinary LWV to energize the spleen chakra. 7. Re scan the front and back spleen and the meng mein chakra. If they have become over activated, aply localized sweeping and inhibit with LWB until they have become normalized. 8. Localizd thorough sweeping on the spine alternately with LWG and LWV. 9. Localized thorough sweeping on the basic chakra alternately with LWG and LWO. This has to be done very thoroughly. If the basic chakra is over activated, inhibit with LWB. Rescan the basic. 10. Localized thorough sweeping on the both arms and both legs with emphasis on their minor chakras alternately with LWG and ordinary LWV. Energize the chakras with LWR. 11. A proficient advanced pranic healer is required to apply this step properly : Form the intention not to over activate the basic chakra. Exert a certain degree of will to energize the basic with EV with the intention of disintegrating the abnormal cells. Visualize the pranic energy going into the spine, ribs, breast bone, hip bones, arma dn leg bones. For a less proficient pranic healer, just use LWR for energizing. 12. Rescan the basic chakra. 13. Localized thorough sweeping on the front and back solar plexus and the liver alternately with LWG and ordinary LWV. Energize the solar plexus with LWG, LWB then with more of ordinary LWV. 14. Localized thorough sweeping on the meng mein, sex, and navel chakras. Energize the sex and navel with LWR. 15. Stabilize and release projected pranic energy. 16. Repeat treatment three times per week. For th epatient: 1. Daily practice of the Meditation on Twin Hearts. Instruct the patient and the patient's family how to practice the Meditation on Twin Hearts properly. This meditation when practiced daily regularly will facilitate the proper assimilation of healing energy and produce positve karma for the practitioner. When practiced as a group, the energy generated is increased exponentially. 2. Practice Loving Kindness, Mercy and Forgiveness. 3. Do service for the good of others. 4. Tithe for healing. This may be done by donating a sufficient amount of money to a clinic or hospital for the purchase of clean blood for the use of indigent patients who need blood transfusion. As healthy blood is given, healthy blood is received. Love, Marilette Pranic Healing is not intended to replace orthodox medicine, but rather to complement it. If symptoms persist or the ailment is severe, please consult immediately a medical doctor and a Certified Pranic Healer . ~ Master Choa Kok Sui Miracles do not happen in contradiction to nature, but only to that which is known to us in nature. ~ St. Augustine Ask or read the uptodate pranic healing protocols by joining the group through http://health./ For the latest International Information regarding GMCKS Pranic Healing, visit http://www.pranichealing.org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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