Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Here is an interesting opinion on veganism. Cyndi Karen Van Cleef <toothsoap Cynthia Krall <cyndikrall Mon, Dec 14, 2009 6:17 pm Thank you and Veganism Hi Cynthia, I got a very unexpected and tremendous response to the last email I sent. Thank you so much if you wrote with advice and encouragement. Funny how life is. I talked about deficiencies and balancing hormones for years and now my hormones are balanced all right. They are balanced on the ground floor. GROUND ZERO that is. Yup. I am 60 on the inside. Now I am feeling very passionate about letting everyone know about my vitamin, protein and hormonal deficiencies because I know there must be others out there with the same thing. I know I was given these issues to share them with others. But I have to honest and say that this is "uncomfortable" now. Not because we are talking about hormones and deficiencies, but because I will now have to express my opinions. I have tried to keep my personal opinions about certain things to myself because I don't want to offend people. I have had to deal with the "people pleasing" issue my whole life. I may never get over it. :-/ In any event I have to risk offending some people with my latest video because I feel the message of deficiencies is very important. My only purpose with this video is to create awareness... that is it. I am not bashing anything but bringing more info to the table so that you can make the healthiest decision for you and your family. Knowledge is power. And my 2 cents might not be worth much, but it will raise some questions that might make you investigate further. And learning is such a great thing. :-) So here is what I think about veganism. :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEnGXeXQ0Zg Enjoy and all the best, Karen Van Cleef ToothSoap.com 402 S. Beavercreek Rd Ste. #113 Oregon City, OR 97045 US If you no longer wish to receive communication from us: http://sendtheinfo.com/app/r.asp?ID=124457925 & ARID=0 & D= To update your contact information: http://sendtheinfo.com/app/r.asp?c=1 & ID=124457925 & D= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yes, it is...and I applaud her for having the guts to express a not-always-popular opinion. I used to be one of those people that looked at meat eaters as misguided. I used to think, "What? Meat and meat FAT can contribute to a healthy diet? No way!" If I never researched or learned anything about the benefits of animal flesh in the human diet, I would still be convinced based on my own experiences as a former vegetarian/sometimes vegan and now a confirmed meat eater. I am healthier, happier and more satisfied today.... --Celia-- --- On Mon, 12/14/09, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote: cyndikrall <cyndikrall[RFSL] Fwd: Thank you and Veganismrealfoodsimplelife Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:32 PM Here is an interesting opinion on veganism. Cyndi Karen Van Cleef <toothsoap >Cynthia Krall <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com>Mon, Dec 14, 2009 6:17 pmThank you and Veganism Hi Cynthia, I got a very unexpected and tremendous response to the last email I sent. Thank you so much if you wrote with advice and encouragement. Funny how life is. I talked about deficiencies and balancing hormones for years and now my hormones are balanced all right. They are balanced on the ground floor. GROUND ZERO that is. Yup. I am 60 on the inside. Now I am feeling very passionate about letting everyone know about my vitamin, protein and hormonal deficiencies because I know there must be others out there with the same thing. I know I was given these issues to share them with others. But I have to honest and say that this is "uncomfortable" now. Not because we are talking about hormones and deficiencies, but because I will now have to express my opinions. I have tried to keep my personal opinions about certain things to myself because I don't want to offend people. I have had to deal with the "people pleasing" issue my whole life. I may never get over it. :-/ In any event I have to risk offending some people with my latest video because I feel the message of deficiencies is very important. My only purpose with this video is to create awareness... that is it. I am not bashing anything but bringing more info to the table so that you can make the healthiest decision for you and your family. Knowledge is power. And my 2 cents might not be worth much, but it will raise some questions that might make you investigate further. And learning is such a great thing. :-) So here is what I think about veganism. :-) http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=SEnGXeXQ0Zg Enjoy and all the best, Karen Van Cleef ToothSoap.com 402 S. Beavercreek Rd Ste. #113 Oregon City, OR 97045 US If you no longer wish to receive communication from us: http://sendtheinfo. com/app/r. asp?ID=124457925 & ARID=0 & D= To update your contact information: http://sendtheinfo. com/app/r. asp?c=1 & ID=124457925 & D= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Glad to hear it, Cee! I guess it works for some people, and thats great. But i think its hard to do it right and thrive. cyndi Celia Browne <lady_celia Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:07 am Re: [RFSL] Fwd: Thank you and Veganism Yes, it is...and I applaud her for having the guts to express a not-always-popular opinion. I used to be one of those people that looked at meat eaters as misguided. I used to think, "What? Meat and meat FAT can contribute to a healthy diet? No way!" If I never researched or learned anything about the benefits of animal flesh in the human diet, I would still be convinced based on my own experiences as a former vegetarian/sometimes vegan and now a confirmed meat eater. I am healthier, happier and more satisfied today.... --Celia-- --- On Mon, 12/14/09, cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com> [RFSL] Fwd: Thank you and Veganism realfoodsimplelife Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:32 PM Here is an interesting opinion on veganism. Cyndi Karen Van Cleef <toothsoap > Cynthia Krall <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com> Mon, Dec 14, 2009 6:17 pm Thank you and Veganism Hi Cynthia, I got a very unexpected and tremendous response to the last email I sent. Thank you so much if you wrote with advice and encouragement. Funny how life is. I talked about deficiencies and balancing hormones for years and now my hormones are balanced all right. They are balanced on the ground floor. GROUND ZERO that is. Yup. I am 60 on the inside. Now I am feeling very passionate about letting everyone know about my vitamin, protein and hormonal deficiencies because I know there must be others out there with the same thing. I know I was given these issues to share them with others. But I have to honest and say that this is "uncomfortable" now. Not because we are talking about hormones and deficiencies, but because I will now have to express my opinions. I have tried to keep my personal opinions about certain things to myself because I don't want to offend people. I have had to deal with the "people pleasing" issue my whole life. I may never get over it. :-/ In any event I have to risk offending some people with my latest video because I feel the message of deficiencies is very important. My only purpose with this video is to create awareness... that is it. I am not bashing anything but bringing more info to the table so that you can make the healthiest decision for you and your family. Knowledge is power. And my 2 cents might not be worth much, but it will raise some questions that might make you investigate further. And learning is such a great thing. :-) So here is what I think about veganism. :-) http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=SEnGXeXQ0Zg Enjoy and all the best, Karen Van Cleef ToothSoap.com 402 S. Beavercreek Rd Ste. #113 Oregon City, OR 97045 US If you no longer wish to receive communication from us: http://sendtheinfo. com/app/r. asp?ID=124457925 & ARID=0 & D= To update your contact information: http://sendtheinfo. com/app/r. asp?c=1 & ID=124457925 & D= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2009 Report Share Posted December 18, 2009 Agreed, especially long term. Some people make it work but I don't think it's healthy for anyone. Extremely healthy people, like my DIL and son, have the ability to sustain a diet like that much longer than those of us who have health issues. My son came out fine after many years of a vegan and vegetarian diet, but my health issues (as well as that of my mom and dad) were exacerbated by the lack of B-12, vitamin D and proper Omega balance. All 3 of us improved immediately once we reintroduced fish and meat into our diet. It's hard to convince those that believe otherwise though...they feel it's a conspiracy, LOL! --C----- On Tue, 12/15/09, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote: cyndikrall <cyndikrallRe: [RFSL] Fwd: Thank you and Veganism Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:30 PM Glad to hear it, Cee! I guess it works for some people, and thats great. But i think its hard to do it right and thrive. cyndi Celia Browne <lady_celia >Tue, Dec 15, 2009 7:07 amRe: [RFSL] Fwd: Thank you and Veganism Yes, it is...and I applaud her for having the guts to express a not-always-popular opinion. I used to be one of those people that looked at meat eaters as misguided. I used to think, "What? Meat and meat FAT can contribute to a healthy diet? No way!" If I never researched or learned anything about the benefits of animal flesh in the human diet, I would still be convinced based on my own experiences as a former vegetarian/sometime s vegan and now a confirmed meat eater. I am healthier, happier and more satisfied today.... --Celia-- --- On Mon, 12/14/09, cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com>[RFSL] Fwd: Thank you and VeganismrealfoodsimplelifeMonday, December 14, 2009, 10:32 PM Here is an interesting opinion on veganism. Cyndi Karen Van Cleef <toothsoap >Cynthia Krall <cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com>Mon, Dec 14, 2009 6:17 pmThank you and Veganism Hi Cynthia, I got a very unexpected and tremendous response to the last email I sent. Thank you so much if you wrote with advice and encouragement. Funny how life is. I talked about deficiencies and balancing hormones for years and now my hormones are balanced all right. They are balanced on the ground floor. GROUND ZERO that is. Yup. I am 60 on the inside. Now I am feeling very passionate about letting everyone know about my vitamin, protein and hormonal deficiencies because I know there must be others out there with the same thing. I know I was given these issues to share them with others. But I have to honest and say that this is "uncomfortable" now. Not because we are talking about hormones and deficiencies, but because I will now have to express my opinions. I have tried to keep my personal opinions about certain things to myself because I don't want to offend people. I have had to deal with the "people pleasing" issue my whole life. I may never get over it. :-/ In any event I have to risk offending some people with my latest video because I feel the message of deficiencies is very important. My only purpose with this video is to create awareness... that is it. I am not bashing anything but bringing more info to the table so that you can make the healthiest decision for you and your family. Knowledge is power. And my 2 cents might not be worth much, but it will raise some questions that might make you investigate further. And learning is such a great thing. :-) So here is what I think about veganism. :-) http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=SEnGXeXQ0Zg Enjoy and all the best, Karen Van Cleef ToothSoap.com 402 S. Beavercreek Rd Ste. #113 Oregon City, OR 97045 US If you no longer wish to receive communication from us: http://sendtheinfo. com/app/r. asp?ID=124457925 & ARID=0 & D= To update your contact information: http://sendtheinfo. com/app/r. asp?c=1 & ID=124457925 & D= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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