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She definitely needs an intervention. Do you ever watch Clean House? The things they have to go thru to get people to part with pure CRAP in unbelievable. It always inspires me to get rid of more stuff, lol. I still have a ways to go, but I feel good about the progress I've made.

 

A big problem I have now is all the stuff I have from my mother that is in my garage. I wanted to get the garage cleaned out last fall, but Kail didn't have time to help, so it will have to wait now until after the rain stops. It just needs to be reorganized mostly, it's furniture I want to keep and get in the house. My kids have stuff in there that they want to keep, and my husband has his tools and "stuff" (I'm trying not to use the word crap, lol.) It'll probably not look much better when we are done, but at least I can go thru it all and know that I've gotten rid of stuff we truly don't want.

 

My goal is to get to the point where I don't have one single thing in my house that I don't truly want. Well, it's a goal, anyway, lol.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/23/2008 11:27:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

I could not believe my eyes how anyone can live like that but then again she is sick and she needs help.

 

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I know I have inherited that gene from my mother! When she passed away, my brother and I had to clean out TWO storage units. Two of my brothers cleaned out her home, and literally threw everything away, except for some stuff my sister in law managed to save, thinking someone might want it.

 

My problem is I have a "collecting" gene. I'm not sure if that's the same as a hoarding gene, but it's probably pretty close. I have "collections" I hate to part with, but I've compromised by paring them down and not starting any others!

 

Sluggy, how is your brother doing? Any change?

 

Cyndi, a work in progress ;-)

 

In a message dated 2/24/2008 8:02:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, arcure writes:

It turns out that I am the healthiest one of the bunch!lol At least what I collect is to sell on eBay and get rid of.I guess we all must have inherited a hoarding gene from my mother's side of the family.sluggy

 

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That's been around for ages. Everytime I look at it, I shake my head.

Whenever I feel back about my house, I just look at that and INSTANTLY feel

much better!lolol

 

Some of you will remember my oldest brother (who was sick last year and I

went down to help him), he has this hoarding 'illness' too. He had a stroke

early in Jan. and has been in a coma since then. I was down there for 3

weeks trying to straighten out finances and things.....one of the things I

did was cleaning out his mess of a house and a 30 ft. storage unit. This

yrs. trip also involved my other brother in the clean up. After seeing him

in action 'helping' to clean and throw out stuff(or NOT throw out stuff) and

after talking to his wife/my SIL, I've discovered that the other brother is

just as bad a hoarder. He is slowly turning his 3/4 million $ upscale

neighborhood home into a storage unit for old uleless crap. So far, his 3

car garage, the apt. over the garage, his home office room and a piece of a

hallway is filled to the top and unuseable. My SIL can't stop him & I am

afraid that she will leave him eventually over this.

 

It turns out that I am the healthiest one of the bunch!lol At least what I

collect is to sell on eBay and get rid of.

I guess we all must have inherited a hoarding gene from my mother's side of

the family.

 

sluggy

 

 

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If this is a case then you are a lucky girl, Sluggy :)

I think this is a terrible affliction.

 

Barbara

 

PS. No such problems for me....I throw everything out! LOL

 

 

That's been around for ages. Everytime I look at it, I shake my head.Whenever I feel back about my house, I just look at that and INSTANTLY feel much better!lololSome of you will remember my oldest brother (who was sick last year and I went down to help him), he has this hoarding 'illness' too. He had a stroke early in Jan. and has been in a coma since then. I was down there for 3 weeks trying to straighten out finances and things.....one of the things I did was cleaning out his mess of a house and a 30 ft. storage unit. This yrs. trip also involved my other brother in the clean up. After seeing him in action 'helping' to clean and throw out stuff(or NOT throw out stuff) and after talking to his wife/my SIL, I've discovered that the other brother is just as bad a hoarder. He is slowly turning his 3/4 million $ upscale neighborhood home into a storage unit for old uleless crap. So far, his 3 car garage, the apt. over the garage, his home office room and a piece of a hallway is filled to the top and unuseable. My SIL can't stop him & I am afraid that she will leave him eventually over this.It turns out that I am the healthiest one of the bunch!lol At least what I collect is to sell on eBay and get rid of.I guess we all must have inherited a hoarding gene from my mother's side of the family.sluggy

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Well, I replied to this a little while ago not knowing about this post. I throw everything out so I don't have very many things that I don't need. Thank goodness. I don't like clutter.

 

My husband on the other hand, was a packrat and his garage was like your garage. Good thing that I did not have to live in his garage.... LOL

 

I guess you have to work for it and eventually your garage and home will be uncluttered also.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

She definitely needs an intervention. Do you ever watch Clean House? The things they have to go thru to get people to part with pure CRAP in unbelievable. It always inspires me to get rid of more stuff, lol. I still have a ways to go, but I feel good about the progress I've made.

 

A big problem I have now is all the stuff I have from my mother that is in my garage. I wanted to get the garage cleaned out last fall, but Kail didn't have time to help, so it will have to wait now until after the rain stops. It just needs to be reorganized mostly, it's furniture I want to keep and get in the house. My kids have stuff in there that they want to keep, and my husband has his tools and "stuff" (I'm trying not to use the word crap, lol.) It'll probably not look much better when we are done, but at least I can go thru it all and know that I've gotten rid of stuff we truly don't want.

 

My goal is to get to the point where I don't have one single thing in my house that I don't truly want. Well, it's a goal, anyway, lol.

 

Cyndi

 

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It's just as hard mentally as physically, truthfully, lol. I have a lot of stuff i just don't want to get rid of, lol!

 

Cyndi

 

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Well, I replied to this a little while ago not knowing about this post. I throw everything out so I don't have very many things that I don't need. Thank goodness. I don't like clutter.

 

My husband on the other hand, was a packrat and his garage was like your garage. Good thing that I did not have to live in his garage.... LOL

 

I guess you have to work for it and eventually your garage and home will be uncluttered also.

 

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No, you don't, lol! I wish I could get rid of everything like you do! LOL. I'm such a packrat...

 

Cyndi

 

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I feel for you..........................

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

It's just as hard mentally as physically, truthfully, lol. I have a lot of stuff i just don't want to get rid of, lol!

 

Cyndi

 

 

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I've stopped most of my bad accumulation habits, with the notable exception of books. I love to read! Then it's hard to give them up once they've been read. It seems such a waste of money to just donate them.

 

Usually when we clean out the garage, I am very motivated to get rid of stuff. It was looking pretty good until all my mother's stuff arrived. Ohhhhhhh, I hate the feeling of baggage i get when I look in that garage! LOL.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/25/2008 11:00:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

Of course, I don't!!! LOL

Just close your eyes and throw everything out! Gone!!!!!!

 

Barbara

 

PS. But then, don't start to accumulate things again!

 

 

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LOL! I'm not surprised your mom never noticed the missing clothes. Very often, packrats can't part with anything, but then never miss anything that is missing. Because they don't know what they have any more!

 

Yes, I still have my prom dress. I will end giving it to the goodwill one of these days, along with some other 80's clothes. It's only 3 or 4 items, not a whole closetful, lol.

 

If she is a packrat, moving is going to be a total nightmare for you. Good luck with the move!

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/25/2008 11:31:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, strange_decadence writes:

 

It's really difficult for some people...

My mom is a packrat. And when I was little, the way we cleaned my room was to put all the toys on the floor in a box, and put it in the attack or spare room. About 3 years ago I opened that attack, and started throwing stuff down to her...lol. Had a pretty decent yard sale, but 3 giant boxes had to be trashed b/c they got ruined in the attic. I was doing buy one get one free on stuffed animals, and at the end of the day I would take a dollar, give them a garbage bag, and tell them to fill it up (it was all going to be donated, just less for us to take there). I love doing that stuff.

Even before that, I cleaned out my mom's closet. She still had clothes she used to party in during the '80's, and that was not cool. Not only are they completely (even now, with the '80's flair back in) out of style, and she will never be that skinny again (heck, I've never been that skinny) and there were just some big old fashion no-nos in there. The closet, a walk in, was packed. JUNKED. Full, and trashed. So I took out all the clothes, and made three piles: yes, maybe, and OH HECK NO. I had a friend take the last to a donation place in the next city over, the maybe went in a pile on the couch in the spare bedroom and was covered with a sheet, the yes went back in, organized. Took her three days to notice the pile in the spare room... but only because she wanted to know what was under her sheet. She didn't notice her closet until I told her, but the day I did it I told her I just organized it for her. To this day she doesn't know about the donated clothes...

Sounds mean, but if she doesn't notice the missing stuff... well, it needed to go. This is a woman that would go through clothes I gave her to donate and keep most, throw away the rest. I found boxes full of them when I did this.

 

I would like to be a professional organizer. My plan is to use my mom's home as a model, take before and after pics, get a portfolio started. But with us moving soon, idk. It's still fun, but my mom's house is a lot of work, and I know within a week whatever room I will tackle will be right back to where it was before (happened when I fixed up her laundry room... couldn't see the floor, it was bad. sigh...)

 

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Barbara, THANK YOU for the justification! Woohoo! ;-)

 

And I will do the throwing out thing. I started this years ago with Fly Lady, but I tend to forget about it for long stretches. :-) Cyndi, who feels much better now. :-)

 

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Well, so you ARE on the way to get better in your habits :)

Books should be normal denizens of every household so I definitely do not consider collecting them as bad habit. Books should be kept forever.

To ease that pain, just trow out one thing at the time.

 

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And be on a waiting list forever? Been there, done that. Plus I like to reread my books, or refer to them, if they are plant oriented.

 

I only look at the library to preview books, or to read ones I know I don't want to keep. So I guess I AM keeping the book habit down as much as I can. ;-)I know, Dan is a bookaholic, and this is a sore subject for you, lol. ;-)Cyndi

 

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Cyndi, I have 1 word for you....Library.You get to enjoy the books and not have to store them. They are just down the road if you feel the need to read anything again. ;-)sluggy

 

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I've always been a book worm, but I'm the only one in my family. I even listen to audio books when I'm on the treadmill, lol.

 

Cyndi

 

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LOL....You are welcome...

You know, I was raised to hold books in high esteem. I can not write in a book, I can not make bunny ears on pages, I keep my books in immaculate conditions. I really take care of my books :)

Books are the wealth of knowledge.

 

About throwing things out....do the one thing every time you have a garbage pickup. Even if it is only a small thing. After a while you will see that your house (or garage) will look much better. And you will be in less pain from parting with them.

 

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I feel for you..........................

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

It's just as hard mentally as physically, truthfully, lol. I have a lot of stuff i just don't want to get rid of, lol!

 

Cyndi

 

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Of course, I don't!!! LOL

Just close your eyes and throw everything out! Gone!!!!!!

 

Barbara

 

PS. But then, don't start to accumulate things again!

 

 

 

 

No, you don't, lol! I wish I could get rid of everything like you do! LOL. I'm such a packrat...

 

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It's really difficult for some people... My mom is a packrat. And when I was little, the way we cleaned my room was to put all the toys on the floor in a box, and put it in the attack or spare room. About 3 years ago I opened that attack, and started throwing stuff down to her...lol. Had a pretty decent yard sale, but 3 giant boxes had to be trashed b/c they got ruined in the attic. I was doing buy one get one free on stuffed animals, and at the end of the day I would take a dollar, give them a garbage bag, and tell them to fill it up (it was all going to be donated, just less for us to take there). I love doing that stuff. Even before that, I cleaned out my mom's closet. She still had clothes she used to party in during the '80's, and that was not cool. Not only are they completely (even now, with the '80's flair back in) out of style, and she will never be that skinny again (heck, I've

never been that skinny) and there were just some big old fashion no-nos in there. The closet, a walk in, was packed. JUNKED. Full, and trashed. So I took out all the clothes, and made three piles: yes, maybe, and OH HECK NO. I had a friend take the last to a donation place in the next city over, the maybe went in a pile on the couch in the spare bedroom and was covered with a sheet, the yes went back in, organized. Took her three days to notice the pile in the spare room... but only because she wanted to know what was under her sheet. She didn't notice her closet until I told her, but the day I did it I told her I just organized it for her. To this day she doesn't know about the donated clothes... Sounds mean, but if she doesn't notice the missing stuff... well, it needed to go. This is a woman that would go through clothes I gave her to donate and keep most, throw away the rest. I found boxes full of

them when I did this. I would like to be a professional organizer. My plan is to use my mom's home as a model, take before and after pics, get a portfolio started. But with us moving soon, idk. It's still fun, but my mom's house is a lot of work, and I know within a week whatever room I will tackle will be right back to where it was before (happened when I fixed up her laundry room... couldn't see the floor, it was bad. sigh...) ~KrisBarbara <barbara3 wrote: I feel for you.......................... Barbara It's just as hard mentally as physically, truthfully, lol. I have a lot of stuff i just don't want to get rid of, lol! Cyndi Don't forget to check out my blog at:www.roguedecadence.vox.com & my online store at:www.roguedecadence.etsy.com

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Well, so you ARE on the way to get better in your habits :)

Books should be normal denizens of every household so I definitely do not consider collecting them as bad habit. Books should be kept forever.

To ease that pain, just trow out one thing at the time.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

I've stopped most of my bad accumulation habits, with the notable exception of books. I love to read! Then it's hard to give them up once they've been read. It seems such a waste of money to just donate them.

 

Usually when we clean out the garage, I am very motivated to get rid of stuff. It was looking pretty good until all my mother's stuff arrived. Ohhhhhhh, I hate the feeling of baggage i get when I look in that garage! LOL.

 

Cyndi

 

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Cyndi wrote......

I've stopped most of my bad accumulation habits, with the notable exception

of books. I love to read! Then it's hard to give them up once they've been

read. It seems such a waste of money to just donate them.

 

***************

Cyndi, I have 1 word for you....

Library.

You get to enjoy the books and not have to store them. They are just down

the road if you feel the need to read anything again. ;-)

sluggy

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LOL....You are welcome...

You know, I was raised to hold books in high esteem. I can not write in a book, I can not make bunny ears on pages, I keep my books in immaculate conditions. I really take care of my books :)

Books are the wealth of knowledge.

 

About throwing things out....do the one thing every time you have a garbage pickup. Even if it is only a small thing. After a while you will see that your house (or garage) will look much better. And you will be in less pain from parting with them.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

Barbara, THANK YOU for the justification! Woohoo! ;-)

 

And I will do the throwing out thing. I started this years ago with Fly Lady, but I tend to forget about it for long stretches. :-) Cyndi, who feels much better now. :-)

 

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In contrast, my whole family were avid readers. With a heavy heart I had to leave half of my books behind me when I moved to Florida because they did not fit on the truck with all my plants.

BTW, I had to leave some of my plants behind too....

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

I've always been a book worm, but I'm the only one in my family. I even listen to audio books when I'm on the treadmill, lol.

 

Cyndi

 

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The waiting list thing sucks fruitcake, and my library doesn't have most of the books I'd enjoy. I have been waiting some time to read the next book in a ficitonal series I am reading... they are supposed to call or email me when it is back. But I was spending about $5 per book (or more, through amazon.com) and just can't afford it anymore. And then I have these books sitting around... and I won't re-read them anytime soon... and I don't have room for them... and I hate to just get rid of them... sigh. So I wait. I have had a lot of books over the years. I love books. I have to have at least one thing to read at all times or I will start reading shampoo bottles and such...lol. ~Kriscyndikrall wrote: And be on a waiting list forever? Been there, done that. Plus I like to reread my books, or refer to them, if they are plant oriented. I only look at the library to preview books, or to read ones I know I don't want to keep. So I guess I AM keeping the book habit down as much as I can. ;-)I know, Dan is a bookaholic, and this is a sore subject for you, lol. ;-)Cyndi In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:41:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, arcure (AT) ptdprolog (DOT) net writes: Cyndi, I have 1 word for you....Library.You get to enjoy the books and not have to store them. They are just down the road if you feel the need to read anything again. ;-)sluggy Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. Don't forget to check out my blog at:www.roguedecadence.vox.com & my online store at:www.roguedecadence.etsy.com

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I don't live with her anymore. Couldn't stand it. My boyfriend and I have our own apartment, and will be moving together. We are great at moving, don't have a lot of junk. She has been in the same house since right before I was born, for 29 years. What sucks is that she will buy more.. little things here and there, and doesn't have room. Some pj's on sale, a pair of cute socks (or several), or a nifty whatnot that she thinks is cute. Then there is junk everywhere again. She has clothes in her closet, my old closet, spare bedroom closet, laundry room, one armoire, one large dresser, one not as large dressed, and a coat closet. That doesn't include what is left hanging in both bathrooms and laying around her room... She has a great house, but if she just got rid of a lot of that stuff she doesn't need she could do the repairs on it that it needs. If it was useful stuff, I would not

worry about it. But it never is. No one needs 10 pairs of socks with puppies on it.. especially when you already have 20 pairs of other kinds of socks. And I swear I could go "shopping" in her house for misc stuff, and she would also not notice. Ugghh...lol. ~Kriscyndikrall wrote: LOL! I'm not surprised your mom never noticed the missing clothes. Very often, packrats can't part with anything, but then never miss anything that is missing. Because they don't know what they have any more! Yes, I still have my prom dress. I will end giving it to the goodwill one of these days, along with some other 80's

clothes. It's only 3 or 4 items, not a whole closetful, lol. If she is a packrat, moving is going to be a total nightmare for you. Good luck with the move! Cyndi In a message dated 2/25/2008 11:31:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, strange_decadence writes: It's really difficult for some people... My mom is a packrat. And when I was little, the way we cleaned my room was to put all the toys on the floor in a box, and put it in the attack or spare room. About 3 years ago I opened that attack, and started throwing stuff down to her...lol. Had a pretty decent yard sale, but 3 giant

boxes had to be trashed b/c they got ruined in the attic. I was doing buy one get one free on stuffed animals, and at the end of the day I would take a dollar, give them a garbage bag, and tell them to fill it up (it was all going to be donated, just less for us to take there). I love doing that stuff. Even before that, I cleaned out my mom's closet. She still had clothes she used to party in during the '80's, and that was not cool. Not only are they completely (even now, with the '80's flair back in) out of style, and she will never be that skinny again (heck, I've never been that skinny) and there were just some big old fashion no-nos in there. The closet, a walk in, was packed. JUNKED. Full, and trashed. So I took out all the clothes, and made three piles: yes, maybe, and OH HECK NO. I had a friend take the last to a donation place in the next city over, the maybe went in a pile on the couch

in the spare bedroom and was covered with a sheet, the yes went back in, organized. Took her three days to notice the pile in the spare room... but only because she wanted to know what was under her sheet. She didn't notice her closet until I told her, but the day I did it I told her I just organized it for her. To this day she doesn't know about the donated clothes... Sounds mean, but if she doesn't notice the missing stuff... well, it needed to go. This is a woman that would go through clothes I gave her to donate and keep most, throw away the rest. I found boxes full of them when I did this. I would like to be a professional organizer. My plan is to use my mom's home as a model, take before and after pics, get a portfolio started. But with us moving soon, idk. It's still fun, but my mom's house is a lot of work, and I know within a week whatever room I will tackle will be

right back to where it was before (happened when I fixed up her laundry room... couldn't see the floor, it was bad. sigh...) ~KrisBarbara <barbara3 wrote: I feel for you.......................... Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.Don't forget to check out my blog at:www.roguedecadence.vox.com & my online store at:www.roguedecadence.etsy.com

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The worst thing of all! I hope they got good homes-books AND plants.

 

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In contrast, my whole family were avid readers. With a heavy heart I had to leave half of my books behind me when I moved to Florida because they did not fit on the truck with all my plants.

BTW, I had to leave some of my plants behind too....

 

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Kris, you know about paperbackswap.com right? I've gotten rid of a lot of books like that, and freecycle too.

 

Our library is so small, it's hopeless to wait for anything.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/25/2008 5:24:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, strange_decadence writes:

 

The waiting list thing sucks fruitcake, and my library doesn't have most of the books I'd enjoy. I have been waiting some time to read the next book in a ficitonal series I am reading... they are supposed to call or email me when it is back. But I was spending about $5 per book (or more, through amazon.com) and just can't afford it anymore. And then I have these books sitting around... and I won't re-read them anytime soon... and I don't have room for them... and I hate to just get rid of them... sigh. So I wait.

I have had a lot of books over the years. I love books. I have to have at least one thing to read at all times or I will start reading shampoo bottles and such...lol.

 

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Maybe socks with KITTENS, anyway. ;-)Good luck with the move! It's never fun, no matter what.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/25/2008 5:31:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, strange_decadence writes:

 

I don't live with her anymore. Couldn't stand it. My boyfriend and I have our own apartment, and will be moving together. We are great at moving, don't have a lot of junk. She has been in the same house since right before I was born, for 29 years. What sucks is that she will buy more.. little things here and there, and doesn't have room. Some pj's on sale, a pair of cute socks (or several), or a nifty whatnot that she thinks is cute. Then there is junk everywhere again. She has clothes in her closet, my old closet, spare bedroom closet, laundry room, one armoire, one large dresser, one not as large dressed, and a coat closet. That doesn't include what is left hanging in both bathrooms and laying around her room...

She has a great house, but if she just got rid of a lot of that stuff she doesn't need she could do the repairs on it that it needs.

If it was useful stuff, I would not worry about it. But it never is. No one needs 10 pairs of socks with puppies on it.. especially when you already have 20 pairs of other kinds of socks.

 

And I swear I could go "shopping" in her house for misc stuff, and she would also not notice. Ugghh...lol.

 

~Kris

 

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