Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 Another book I highly recommend on the topic of vaccine information is "How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Doctor", by Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D. He has another book as well called "Confessions of a Medical Heretic" which is also very good. One of the chapter titles is "If This is Preventive Medicine, I'll Take My Chances with Disease"! Gotta love it! LOL!! Kelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 also check out vaclib.org Peace and happiness, Elizabeth Elliott, Birth Doula and Childbirth Educator Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Yes!! Dr. Mendelsohn is truly a gem. Hard to believe he’s an MD. Guess they’ll be getting two books from amazon.com J On second thought, maybe I’ll save this one for the baby shower! More exposure, too. I’ll be sure to wear my flame suit, though. Thanks!!! Anna <<<<Another book I highly recommend on the topic of vaccine information is " How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of your Doctor " , by Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D. He has another book as well called " Confessions of a Medical Heretic " which is also very good. One of the chapter titles is " If This is Preventive Medicine, I'll Take My Chances with Disease " ! Gotta love it! LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Already a member of the list and also the organization. They have done so much to spread the word. Anna <<<<also check out vaclib.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Hey, you go girl! Some day there will be a reason for them to question their medico's opinion and they'll remember you giving them advice. They'll be back!! :)Kelli DrCrandall [drcrandall] Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:08 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Vaccines I’ll be sure to wear my flame suit, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 <<<Hey, you go girl! Some day there will be a reason for them to question their medico's opinion and they'll remember you giving them advice. They'll be back!! Kelli>>> THANKS for the encouragement. I DO like my flame suit, it’s mauve, ya know <wink wink> Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 And quite stylish if I may say so! Kelli DrCrandall [drcrandall] Saturday, May 08, 2004 3:10 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Vaccines I DO like my flame suit, it’s mauve, ya know <wink wink> Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 <<<<And quite stylish if I may say so! Kelli>>>> Thank you dahlin’ J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 And I just LOVE the fashion risk! **you'll have to imagine the "queer eye for the straight guy" lisp** ;-) JohnKelli Bever <kelli wrote: And quite stylish if I may say so! Kelli Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Sorry All, But why don't you want your kids vaccinated? I don't mean to be ignorant, but I guess I am. What's happening with vaccines? Debra - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 If I had to do it all over again, I would not vaccinate my child. The health problems he and I both have could all be link to the vaccination and of course other things as well. I believe just like any drug all it is a chemical, would I eat that, no. A girlfriend of mine has a 10 year child that has Autism, a great deal of people link Autism to vaccinations. vaccination to me are like the flu shot, how on earth can they predict, there so called polo vaccination came out when polo had a 50 % decrease already , it was already on it way out the door anyhow. You can also get alot of info about vaccination and organization that are against them on the net. GinaDebra Savage <gdwmn65 wrote: Sorry All, But why don't you want your kids vaccinated? I don't mean to be ignorant, but I guess I am. What's happening with vaccines? Debra - FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2005 Report Share Posted November 5, 2005 Hi... I just wanted to write in agreement with what Gina just stated; I wanted to respond also, with all due respect, to those of you who think vaccines should be given to protect our children. This is the general belief everywhere, and what is advertised and encouraged by allopathic mainstream doctors. Do you believe everything our government and the FDA want us to believe, regarding our health? If not, and if you want to take matters into your own hands as far as your health is concerned, there is a lot of research and reading to be done on the subject of vaccines! There are plenty of vaccine websites exposing the truth! Those of us who do not use vaccinations have studied it enough to believe that the opposite is true; there is more risk in getting vaccinated than not. GET THIS: The ONLY way to get polio in the United States today is by contracting it from a person who had a live-polio vaccination, or by getting a live-polio vaccination! Also, there is a congressional fund to pay for the damages to the victims of government-mandated vaccines! Well, the list goes on. Bottom line: do your research before making an informed decision. Jayde - Gina Kopera herbal remedies Friday, November 04, 2005 3:04 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Vaccines If I had to do it all over again, I would not vaccinate my child. The health problems he and I both have could all be link to the vaccination and of course other things as well. I believe just like any drug all it is a chemical, would I eat that, no. A girlfriend of mine has a 10 year child that has Autism, a great deal of people link Autism to vaccinations. vaccination to me are like the flu shot, how on earth can they predict, there so called polo vaccination came out when polo had a 50 % decrease already , it was already on it way out the door anyhow. You can also get alot of info about vaccination and organization that are against them on the net. GinaDebra Savage <gdwmn65 wrote: Sorry All, But why don't you want your kids vaccinated? I don't mean to be ignorant, but I guess I am. What's happening with vaccines? Debra - FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Just wanted to put my two cents in....If I knew then what I know now I wouldn't have vaccinated my boys either. I have twin boys with autism...They are not updated on vaccines because I got a waiver. No one really knows what causes autism but there are alot of speculations and one of them is the vaccines. I believe it is a combination of things... Suzann > > If I had to do it all over again, I would not vaccinate my child. The health problems he and I both have could all be link to the vaccination and of course other things as well. I believe just like any drug all it is a chemical, would I eat that, no. A girlfriend of mine has a 10 year child that has Autism, a great deal of people link Autism to vaccinations. vaccination to me are like the flu shot, how on earth can they predict, there so called polo vaccination came out when polo had a 50 % decrease already , it was already on it way out the door anyhow. You can also get alot of info about vaccination and organization that are against them on the net. > > Gina > > Debra Savage <gdwmn65@v...> wrote: > Sorry All, > > But why don't you want your kids vaccinated? I don't mean to be ignorant, but I guess I am. What's happening with vaccines? > > Debra > - > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hi Everyone, I just got this link about vaccines or rather a history of vaccines till the present times. Very important article, please read it. Barbara http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Excellent article, Barbara! My husband's been asking me when we're going to get our flu shots. I've been telling him, we're not getting any more shots because of the nasty stuff in them. If I can get him to read this article, I think the case will be closed! KariBarbara <barbara3 wrote: Hi Everyone, I just got this link about vaccines or rather a history of vaccines till the present times. Very important article, please read it. Barbara http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Oh, I'm so glad Kari! If this article will stop just one person from vaccinating it will be just great! Barbara Excellent article, Barbara! My husband's been asking me when we're going to get our flu shots. I've been telling him, we're not getting any more shots because of the nasty stuff in them. If I can get him to read this article, I think the case will be closed! Kari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 my twins had a bad reaction to the MMR vaccine, they were sick for days. , then when they went to school and had another shot,, one of them fainted and the teacher said she was putting it on. They both have problems,., one has paranoid schizophrenia and the other one has mood disorders and they are both sensitive to lots of foods-- They are both 25 yet and one is in hospital and the other one is on a sickness benefit. She has never had a job, I suspect it was the immunisations but I`m not sure. - In , " Mysticgem " <mysticgem69 wrote: > > my kids also do not get vacines. > my oldest son who's now going on 21 had a very bad reaction when he > got a series of his shots at about 18 months old, he cryed for about > 6 days straight his arm swelled up and became inflamed where the > shots were given, and afterwords we noticed magor changes in him he > didnt seem to know things he knew before the shots, he stopped > talking and cryed alot he had never been like that prior to the shots. > > I had taken him back to the dr several times in the days that > followed the shots, but our peds office just looked at me like it was > all a normal reaction and he would be fine i keep telling them there > was something wrong and different about him, but they thought I was > just a young dumb mother. > my son was never diagnosed with any condition other then being > learning disabled, but has struggled his whole life, and will > continue to struggle his adult life, and I know it was because of > those shots. non of the rest of my kids have ever had them, and I now > have very healthy adult children and teens. > > , " Amelia " > <lakotasiouxgrizzly2006@> wrote: > > > > I swear I saw a post and have spent the last 15 minutes trying to > find > > it and can't...help... > > ~Amy~ > > Thanks! > > P.S. I ordered 4 bumper stickers... > > I have 5 kids...22,20,18,16 and 11 > > The first baby had 2 shots ( one ploio and one DPT I think) and > then we > > quit dong the vacinations. The three older boys are body > builders..the > > 20 year old can leg press 1400 lbs. All healthy... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 What does anyone think about the Time magazine cover article headline? Does refusing vaccinations really put other families at risk? We don't do them with our daughter and are not going to with our next baby either, and it is not because we believe they put our children at risk for disease or mental illness, we just want their immune systems to develop naturally. When it's your baby's life you just research everything from every opinion, pray hard, and know your beliefs and your baby. No matter what the decision trust that you are making the right one for your child. Parents who don't vaccinate are just as afraid of our babies getting diseases as those who do, and all parents are only doing the best the can to protect their children, and that's all we can do. leave me your thoughts, Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 What are the chances that your unvaccinated child will catch a diseaese that s/he might have been vaccinated against and give it to someone else? Pretty low. On the other hand, your vaccinated child and all the vaccinated people s/he comes in contact with have already had their health damaged by the vaccine for sure. And those people could still get the disease anyway. Linda unwieldingdreams <unwieldingdreams Sunday, June 8, 2008 6:17:40 PM Re: Vaccines What does anyone think about the Time magazine cover article headline? Does refusing vaccinations really put other families at risk? We don't do them with our daughter and are not going to with our next baby either, and it is not because we believe they put our children at risk for disease or mental illness, we just want their immune systems to develop naturally. When it's your baby's life you just research everything from every opinion, pray hard, and know your beliefs and your baby. No matter what the decision trust that you are making the right one for your child. Parents who don't vaccinate are just as afraid of our babies getting diseases as those who do, and all parents are only doing the best the can to protect their children, and that's all we can do. leave me your thoughts, Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 More power to you for NOT vaccinating! NO I don't think you are putting other families at risk, if anything it is the other way around. I know with our animals there are just as many, if not more dogs that have been vaccinated that still develop the diseases they were supposed to be protected against. Afterall isn't it the mantra of vaccines that you are supposed to be protected/immune from all these terrible diseases ? So how can an unvaccinated person be a " risk " , because they are immune are they not? That's what they had all those vaccines for? Right? To protect them? Don't compromise your childs immune system by giving in to vaccines. I personally will not be deliberately any more vaccines, I've had all the ones I ever want. I've even knocked back the possibility of a job because you had to have a vaccine " just in case " you came in touch with a bad thing,lol. huggs Lyndall - " unwieldingdreams " <unwieldingdreams Monday, June 09, 2008 11:17 AM Re: Vaccines What does anyone think about the Time magazine cover article headline? Does refusing vaccinations really put other families at risk? leave me your thoughts, Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Every reader here should be familiar with the Vaccine Injury Coalition (VIC) www.vacinfo.org. They have excellent sources and links. No one who reads there will allow vaccination for anything. Join the movement and make a difference. Dr. Stephen Jared ND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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