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Some people who are plagued with food allergies or just food sensitivities, may find this article helpful. You can check for yourself which particular food you are reacting to.

 

Barbara

 

From my article, "Nutritional Insights":FOOD SENSITIVITIES:Probably more than half the people in this countryexperience food allergies/sensitivities to one degreeor another. Actually, the term, "food allergies" is amisnomer, because the body reacts to various foodsubstances for more reasons than allergic reactions(hence the word, "sensitivities").When you think of allergies, you generally think ofsneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, etc. But allergiesmimic every known disease. The late Dr. Arthur Cocadiscovered that when people ate foods to which theywere allergic, their pulse increased. So he begantesting people by having them monitor their pulse whenthey ate certain foods. One woman who came to himbecause of her hay fever symptoms weighed 300 pounds.When she stopped eating the foods the pulse testinghad indicated she was sensitive to, she began losingweight at an amazing, even alarming, rate. She hurriedback to Dr. Coca and he told her to wait and see whatwould happen. When her body reached a healthy weightlevel, she stopped losing weight. Dr. Coca concludedthat her body's reaction when she ate foods to whichshe was sensitive was to accumulate and retain fat.Another of Dr. Coca's patients found that theirdiabetes symptoms disappeared and they were able todiscontinue taking insulin, and still another patientfound they no longer exhibited symptoms of epilepsy.Obviously, these examples are abnormal; foodsensitivities cannot be held responsible for more thana small percentage of diabetic or epilepticconditions, but there are other symptoms associatedwith food allergies, such as low energy, which aremore common than normally thought.In his book, "The Pulse Test", Dr. Coca explainedthat, when you eat something to which you areallergic, or even something which your body issensitive to and has trouble metabolizing, your bodywill begin to struggle with that food or substance,and your pulse will increase.To use the pulse test to determine which foods youshould avoid, the test should be conducted first thingin the morning, when you have first arisen, beforeeating or drinking anything. The reason for this isbecause your body will have had the night to clearitself out of the last food you ate. You should befully awake. First, sit down for a couple minutes, sothat your pulse is a sitting pulse. Then, take yourpulse for a whole minute (rather than 15 seconds andmultiplying by four). Then, eat one food which you aresuspicious of being an allergen. That's one food, suchas a hard-boiled egg, or a glass of milk, or anorange, etc. Bread is not one food, it contains wheat,eggs, milk, yeast, etc., so you could not accuratelydetermine which item you were reacting to.After eating the one food, take your pulse every 15minutes three times (Say you eat the food at 7:00 A.M.You would take your pulse at 7:15, 7:30 and 7:45),always sitting for a minute first so you are alwaystaking a sitting pulse, and always for a whole minutefor best accuracy (if you are testing a child who willnot hold still long enough, use the 15 secondsmethod). Eat nothing during that hour, and if yourpulse quickens to more than 92 beats per minute, yourbody is reacting to that food, and you should consideromitting it from your diet. You should test only onefood each morning for the testing to be the mostaccurate.The most common food allergens to consider testing arechocolate (number one food allergen), milk (test wholemilk, 1% or 2% milk and non-fat milk separately),wheat (test wheat germ or cooked whole-wheat berries),citrus fruits, strawberries, etc. Also, make sure totest the foods you eat the most frequently and theones you have strong or frequent cravings for.Addictive allergies are very common (having an"addiction" to the foods you are the most allergicto).If you discover reactions to certain foods, you maystill be able to eat them if you allow five or moredays to go by before eating them again, and if you donot over-indulge (pig out) when you do eat them. Ifyou have allergies to various non-food substances(dusts, pollens, etc.), you may find that after youomit the allergen foods from your diet, yoursensitivity to these non-food substances will decreaseor disappear.Terry ChamberlinMetabolic Solutions InstituteLawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada902-584-3810msibio

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This is good information, Barbara. I like this test!

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/24/2007 1:21:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

Some people who are plagued with food allergies or just food sensitivities, may find this article helpful. You can check for yourself which particular food you are reacting to.

 

Barbara

 

From my article, "Nutritional Insights":FOOD SENSITIVITIES:Probably more than half the people in this countryexperience food allergies/sensitivities to one degreeor another. Actually, the term, "food allergies" is amisnomer, because the body reacts to various foodsubstances for more reasons than allergic reactions(hence the word, "sensitivities").When you think of allergies, you generally think ofsneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, etc. But allergiesmimic every known disease. The late Dr. Arthur Cocadiscovered that when people ate foods to which theywere allergic, their pulse increased. So he begantesting people by having them monitor their pulse whenthey ate certain foods. One woman who came to himbecause of her hay fever symptoms weighed 300 pounds.When she stopped eating the foods the pulse testinghad indicated she was sensitive to, she began losingweight at an amazing, even alarming, rate. She hurriedback to Dr. Coca and he told her to wait and see whatwould happen. When her body reached a healthy weightlevel, she stopped losing weight. Dr. Coca concludedthat her body's reaction when she ate foods to whichshe was sensitive was to accumulate and retain fat.Another of Dr. Coca's patients found that theirdiabetes symptoms disappeared and they were able todiscontinue taking insulin, and still another patientfound they no longer exhibited symptoms of epilepsy.Obviously, these examples are abnormal; foodsensitivities cannot be held responsible for more thana small percentage of diabetic or epilepticconditions, but there are other symptoms associatedwith food allergies, such as low energy, which aremore common than normally thought.In his book, "The Pulse Test", Dr. Coca explainedthat, when you eat something to which you areallergic, or even something which your body issensitive to and has trouble metabolizing, your bodywill begin to struggle with that food or substance,and your pulse will increase.To use the pulse test to determine which foods youshould avoid, the test should be conducted first thingin the morning, when you have first arisen, beforeeating or drinking anything. The reason for this isbecause your body will have had the night to clearitself out of the last food you ate. You should befully awake. First, sit down for a couple minutes, sothat your pulse is a sitting pulse. Then, take yourpulse for a whole minute (rather than 15 seconds andmultiplying by four). Then, eat one food which you aresuspicious of being an allergen. That's one food, suchas a hard-boiled egg, or a glass of milk, or anorange, etc. Bread is not one food, it contains wheat,eggs, milk, yeast, etc., so you could not accuratelydetermine which item you were reacting to.After eating the one food, take your pulse every 15minutes three times (Say you eat the food at 7:00 A.M.You would take your pulse at 7:15, 7:30 and 7:45),always sitting for a minute first so you are alwaystaking a sitting pulse, and always for a whole minutefor best accuracy (if you are testing a child who willnot hold still long enough, use the 15 secondsmethod). Eat nothing during that hour, and if yourpulse quickens to more than 92 beats per minute, yourbody is reacting to that food, and you should consideromitting it from your diet. You should test only onefood each morning for the testing to be the mostaccurate.The most common food allergens to consider testing arechocolate (number one food allergen), milk (test wholemilk, 1% or 2% milk and non-fat milk separately),wheat (test wheat germ or cooked whole-wheat berries),citrus fruits, strawberries, etc. Also, make sure totest the foods you eat the most frequently and theones you have strong or frequent cravings for.Addictive allergies are very common (having an"addiction" to the foods you are the most allergicto).If you discover reactions to certain foods, you maystill be able to eat them if you allow five or moredays to go by before eating them again, and if you donot over-indulge (pig out) when you do eat them. Ifyou have allergies to various non-food substances(dusts, pollens, etc.), you may find that after youomit the allergen foods from your diet, yoursensitivity to these non-food substances will decreaseor disappear.Terry ChamberlinMetabolic Solutions InstituteLawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada902-584-3810msibio

 

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There's one MAJOR flaw with this test...it cannot be accurately used

on a substantial portion of the population. It can produce a false

positive on anyone who is diabetic, hypoglycemic, has Syndrome X or

has any kind of insulin resistance at all. Refined carbs produce the

identical response on affected persons, especially if untreated or

not on medication. Ask any diabetic person what happens after they

eat a handful of french fries or a few bites from a jelly

doughnut...especially after fasting! My clueless, skinny,

hypoglycemic sister is " food " stupid and doesn't understand the

mechanism of what triggers her episodes, even though I've explained

it to her a million times. I'll watch her eat a couple of coconut

shrimp with orange marmalade dip, and 15 minutes to a 1/2 hour later

she can't understand why her heart is racing and her pulse is so

high! (...And she's a freakin' nurse!)

 

I do not know what the combined percentage would be of the population

that has the above listed problems, but due to the obesity epidemic,

at least 1 out of 4 Americans would definitely fall into this

catagory, and another 1 out of 4 is borderline for these issues.

Therefore, it can only be performed with certainty on normal weight

individuals with no other risk factors such as those listed above.

 

--Cee--

 

RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> This is good information, Barbara. I like this test!

>

> Cyndi

>

> In a message dated 2/24/2007 1:21:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> barbara3 writes:

>

> Some people who are plagued with food allergies or just food

sensitivities,

> may find this article helpful. You can check for yourself which

particular

> food you are reacting to.

>

> Barbara

>

>

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I didn't take this test to mean persons with any diagnosed medical issues....they already KNOW what foods they have problems with, even if they are in denial, like your sister. Many times people just don't WANT to accept the truth, and eat what they want.

 

But there are MANY people out there who may be lactose intolerant, or wheat intolerant, etc. and don't know it. I think this sort of test is GREAT to help people pinpoint what may be giving them problems. AND, they can take this info to their doctor if they see a pattern. I did something similar with myself and sugar and grains, and my son with dairy products.

 

If a person does this kind of test, it's because they WANT to understand what foods will cause a reaction. I wonder how many people out there just feel crappy all the time and don't know why. You can't just go to your doctor and say "I feel crappy" and expect them to know what the problem is. There has to be someplace to start. My son has migraines, and every doctor he's seen over the years has told him to keep a food diary, and track what triggers a migraine. Food allergies are more common than people think. Just because someone does not drop over into a coma when they eat certain foods doesn't mean they aren't having a reaction to a food. I see this as a simple way to "test" yourself and understand what happens to your body, instead of mindlessly shoving food in and then wondering why you don't feel good, lol.

 

Cyndi

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/28/2007 4:45:50 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

There's one MAJOR flaw with this test...it cannot be accurately used on a substantial portion of the population. It can produce a false positive on anyone who is diabetic, hypoglycemic, has Syndrome X or has any kind of insulin resistance at all. Refined carbs produce the identical response on affected persons, especially if untreated or not on medication. Ask any diabetic person what happens after they eat a handful of french fries or a few bites from a jelly doughnut...especially after fasting! My clueless, skinny, hypoglycemic sister is "food" stupid and doesn't understand the mechanism of what triggers her episodes, even though I've explained it to her a million times. I'll watch her eat a couple of coconut shrimp with orange marmalade dip, and 15 minutes to a 1/2 hour later she can't understand why her heart is racing and her pulse is so high! (...And she's a freakin' nurse!)I do not know what the combined percentage would be of the population that has the above listed problems, but due to the obesity epidemic, at least 1 out of 4 Americans would definitely fall into this catagory, and another 1 out of 4 is borderline for these issues. Therefore, it can only be performed with certainty on normal weight individuals with no other risk factors such as those listed above.--Cee--RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:>> > This is good information, Barbara. I like this test! > > Cyndi> > In a message dated 2/24/2007 1:21:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > barbara3 writes:> > Some people who are plagued with food allergies or just food sensitivities, > may find this article helpful. You can check for yourself which particular > food you are reacting to. > > Barbara> >

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No test ever is 100% sure. This test is for people with food sensitivities but otherwise healthy. People with diabetes, hypoglycemia, or other insuline problems do not need to perform it.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

There's one MAJOR flaw with this test...it cannot be accurately used on a substantial portion of the population. It can produce a false positive on anyone who is diabetic, hypoglycemic, has Syndrome X or has any kind of insulin resistance at all. Refined carbs produce the identical response on affected persons, especially if untreated or not on medication. Ask any diabetic person what happens after they eat a handful of french fries or a few bites from a jelly doughnut...especially after fasting! My clueless, skinny, hypoglycemic sister is "food" stupid and doesn't understand the mechanism of what triggers her episodes, even though I've explained it to her a million times. I'll watch her eat a couple of coconut shrimp with orange marmalade dip, and 15 minutes to a 1/2 hour later she can't understand why her heart is racing and her pulse is so high! (...And she's a freakin' nurse!)I do not know what the combined percentage would be of the population that has the above listed problems, but due to the obesity epidemic, at least 1 out of 4 Americans would definitely fall into this catagory, and another 1 out of 4 is borderline for these issues. Therefore, it can only be performed with certainty on normal weight individuals with no other risk factors such as those listed above.--Cee--

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I should have read further in my mail, lol!

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/28/2007 11:58:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

Well, I'm not sure if you read my follow up post, but I changed my view after re-reading it a few times. while it would not be accurate in diagnosing true allergies in people with certain medical conditions, it could be VERY accurate in diagnosing "sensitivities," in both the healthy and the infirm. I have done it myself in the past--not for allergies--but to determine what foods I should and should not eat as a diabetic. I have thought of those foods in the past as "poisons," now I will consider them as "sensitivities" instead...--Cee--

 

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I still like the word "poison" lol. That's how I think of sugar!

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 2/28/2007 11:58:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

Well, I'm not sure if you read my follow up post, but I changed my view after re-reading it a few times. while it would not be accurate in diagnosing true allergies in people with certain medical conditions, it could be VERY accurate in diagnosing "sensitivities," in both the healthy and the infirm. I have done it myself in the past--not for allergies--but to determine what foods I should and should not eat as a diabetic. I have thought of those foods in the past as "poisons," now I will consider them as "sensitivities" instead...--Cee--

 

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Actually, Barbara...I have re-read the article and I am looking at it

in another light. An *entirely* different light!

 

I was so focused on the subject line calling it an " allergy test, "

that I didn't absorb the whole article with an open mind. (I still

stand by what I wrote...you can not use pulse action to determine

allergies in a diabetic or hypoglycemic person.) HOWEVER, upon re-

reading the article and focusing on the broader definition

of " sensitivities " instead of allergies...well, it's a whole new ball

game...

 

If one looks at the story of the obese woman who quit eating the

foods that made her pulse race and she lost weight, it makes perfect

sense! A 300 lb. women would most likely be insulin resistant, so

certain foods such as refined carbs and foods that make you " fat " by

releasing insulin (the fat hoarding hormone) would make her pulse

race, showing a " sensitivity " to eating this food! If she quit

eating this food (SAD) that made her obese in the first place, her

blood sugar would drop, her insulin levels would return to normal,

and her excess fat would slowly melt away. WOW! It makes TOTAL

sense that one could describe her as having a " sensitivity " to those

foods...because she does!

 

I know I do...

 

--Celia--

 

>

>

>

>

> From my article, " Nutritional Insights " :

>

> FOOD SENSITIVITIES:

> Probably more than half the people in this country

> experience food allergies/sensitivities to one degree

> or another. Actually, the term, " food allergies " is a

> misnomer, because the body reacts to various food

> substances for more reasons than allergic reactions

> (hence the word, " sensitivities " ).

>

> When you think of allergies, you generally think of

> sneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, etc. But allergies

> mimic every known disease. The late Dr. Arthur Coca

> discovered that when people ate foods to which they

> were allergic, their pulse increased. So he began

> testing people by having them monitor their pulse when

> they ate certain foods. One woman who came to him

> because of her hay fever symptoms weighed 300 pounds.

> When she stopped eating the foods the pulse testing

> had indicated she was sensitive to, she began losing

> weight at an amazing, even alarming, rate. She hurried

> back to Dr. Coca and he told her to wait and see what

> would happen. When her body reached a healthy weight

> level, she stopped losing weight. Dr. Coca concluded

> that her body's reaction when she ate foods to which

> she was sensitive was to accumulate and retain fat.

>

> Another of Dr. Coca's patients found that their

> diabetes symptoms disappeared and they were able to

> discontinue taking insulin, and still another patient

> found they no longer exhibited symptoms of epilepsy.

> Obviously, these examples are abnormal; food

> sensitivities cannot be held responsible for more than

> a small percentage of diabetic or epileptic

> conditions, but there are other symptoms associated

> with food allergies, such as low energy, which are

> more common than normally thought.

>

> In his book, " The Pulse Test " , Dr. Coca explained

> that, when you eat something to which you are

> allergic, or even something which your body is

> sensitive to and has trouble metabolizing, your body

> will begin to struggle with that food or substance,

> and your pulse will increase.

>

> To use the pulse test to determine which foods you

> should avoid, the test should be conducted first thing

> in the morning, when you have first arisen, before

> eating or drinking anything. The reason for this is

> because your body will have had the night to clear

> itself out of the last food you ate. You should be

> fully awake. First, sit down for a couple minutes, so

> that your pulse is a sitting pulse. Then, take your

> pulse for a whole minute (rather than 15 seconds and

> multiplying by four). Then, eat one food which you are

> suspicious of being an allergen. That's one food, such

> as a hard-boiled egg, or a glass of milk, or an

> orange, etc. Bread is not one food, it contains wheat,

> eggs, milk, yeast, etc., so you could not accurately

> determine which item you were reacting to.

>

> After eating the one food, take your pulse every 15

> minutes three times (Say you eat the food at 7:00 A.M.

> You would take your pulse at 7:15, 7:30 and 7:45),

> always sitting for a minute first so you are always

> taking a sitting pulse, and always for a whole minute

> for best accuracy (if you are testing a child who will

> not hold still long enough, use the 15 seconds

> method). Eat nothing during that hour, and if your

> pulse quickens to more than 92 beats per minute, your

> body is reacting to that food, and you should consider

> omitting it from your diet. You should test only one

> food each morning for the testing to be the most

> accurate.

>

> The most common food allergens to consider testing are

> chocolate (number one food allergen), milk (test whole

> milk, 1% or 2% milk and non-fat milk separately),

> wheat (test wheat germ or cooked whole-wheat berries),

> citrus fruits, strawberries, etc. Also, make sure to

> test the foods you eat the most frequently and the

> ones you have strong or frequent cravings for.

> Addictive allergies are very common (having an

> " addiction " to the foods you are the most allergic

> to).

>

> If you discover reactions to certain foods, you may

> still be able to eat them if you allow five or more

> days to go by before eating them again, and if you do

> not over-indulge (pig out) when you do eat them. If

> you have allergies to various non-food substances

> (dusts, pollens, etc.), you may find that after you

> omit the allergen foods from your diet, your

> sensitivity to these non-food substances will decrease

> or disappear.

>

>

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Well, I'm not sure if you read my follow up post, but I changed my

view after re-reading it a few times. while it would not be accurate

in diagnosing true allergies in people with certain medical

conditions, it could be VERY accurate in diagnosing " sensitivities, "

in both the healthy and the infirm. I have done it myself in the

past--not for allergies--but to determine what foods I should and

should not eat as a diabetic. I have thought of those foods in the

past as " poisons, " now I will consider them as " sensitivities "

instead...

 

--Cee--

 

RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> I didn't take this test to mean persons with any diagnosed medical

> issues....they already KNOW what foods they have problems with,

even if they are in

> denial, like your sister. Many times people just don't WANT to

accept the

> truth, and eat what they want.

>

> But there are MANY people out there who may be lactose intolerant,

or wheat

> intolerant, etc. and don't know it. I think this sort of test is

GREAT to

> help people pinpoint what may be giving them problems. AND, they

can take this

> info to their doctor if they see a pattern. I did something similar

with

> myself and sugar and grains, and my son with dairy products.

>

> If a person does this kind of test, it's because they WANT to

understand

> what foods will cause a reaction. I wonder how many people out

there just feel

> crappy all the time and don't know why. You can't just go to your

doctor and

> say " I feel crappy " and expect them to know what the problem is.

There has to

> be someplace to start. My son has migraines, and every doctor he's

seen over

> the years has told him to keep a food diary, and track what

triggers a

> migraine. Food allergies are more common than people think. Just

because someone

> does not drop over into a coma when they eat certain foods doesn't

mean they

> aren't having a reaction to a food. I see this as a simple way

to " test "

> yourself and understand what happens to your body, instead of

mindlessly shoving

> food in and then wondering why you don't feel good, lol.

>

> Cyndi

>

[Guest guest]

I know that this person knows what he is talking about.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

Actually, Barbara...I have re-read the article and I am looking at it in another light. An *entirely* different light!

 

--Celia--

[Guest guest]

I can see that you understood the test, Cyndi.... It is meant exactly like you are saying.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

I didn't take this test to mean persons with any diagnosed medical issues....they already KNOW what foods they have problems with, even if they are in denial, like your sister. Many times people just don't WANT to accept the truth, and eat what they want.

 

Cyndi

 

 

[Guest guest]

I can see how this could be a valuable tool for the blockheads in

denial though! Most diabetics and hypoglycemics feel " deprived " when

they are told they shouldn't eat certain foods and they eat 'em

anyway...and then can't figure out why they feel so sick! But if they

actually saw the cause and effect by testing these foods for

sensitivities, they might actually *get* it!

 

--Cee--

 

> I didn't take this test to mean persons with any diagnosed medical

issues....they already KNOW what foods they have problems with, even if

they are in denial, like your sister. Many times people just don't WANT

to accept the truth, and eat what they want.

>

> Cyndi

>

[Guest guest]

Another thing I wanted to mention about food sensitivities- if you

know anyone dealing with depression, I HIGHLY encourage you to pass

on this test to them! I never realized how badly sugar affected my

moods until I eliminated them from my diet. I didn't make the

connection at first. I was having a lot of hormone issues-the women

in my family go into menopause early-and I was looking for dietary

remedies. The first one was give up sugar, lol.

 

I couldn't believe the difference it made in my whole outlook on

life. I believe I solved a lot of my hormonal issues just by doing

this simple thing. I expanded it to limiting my grains, and the

difference was remarkable. And for me, there's NO such thing as

moderation. I can literally time when a trigger food is going

to " hit, " like your sister, Cee.

 

Even for men or women who aren't having hormonal issues, giving up

sugar or other trigger foods could make all the difference in dealing

with depression.

 

And the thing is, if you aren't having noticeable physical symptoms,

you might never realize that food is affecting your moods. Naturally,

if someone is already under a doctors care, they shouldn't dump all

their meds. But I know there are literally millions of people out

there who are depressed and DON'T go to their doctor. This could be

really HUGE in helping someone who doesn't understand why they are

depressed.

 

There are other simple remedies for depression, like magnesium, B

vitamins, and cod liver oil, especially in the winter when it's not

possible to be out in the sun. Lack of sun is a big reason people get

depressed in the winter.

 

Cyndi

 

 

RealSimple , " lady_celia " <cbrowne wrote:

>

> I can see how this could be a valuable tool for the blockheads in

> denial though! Most diabetics and hypoglycemics feel " deprived "

when

> they are told they shouldn't eat certain foods and they eat 'em

> anyway...and then can't figure out why they feel so sick! But if

they

> actually saw the cause and effect by testing these foods for

> sensitivities, they might actually *get* it!

>

> --Cee--

>

> > I didn't take this test to mean persons with any diagnosed

medical

> issues....they already KNOW what foods they have problems with,

even if

> they are in denial, like your sister. Many times people just don't

WANT

> to accept the truth, and eat what they want.

> >

> > Cyndi

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I agree Cyndi...great post and so true!

 

Barbara

 

 

Another thing I wanted to mention about food sensitivities- if you know anyone dealing with depression, I HIGHLY encourage you to pass on this test to them! I never realized how badly sugar affected my moods until I eliminated them from my diet. I didn't make the connection at first. I was having a lot of hormone issues-the women in my family go into menopause early-and I was looking for dietary remedies. The first one was give up sugar, lol. I couldn't believe the difference it made in my whole outlook on life. I believe I solved a lot of my hormonal issues just by doing this simple thing. I expanded it to limiting my grains, and the difference was remarkable. And for me, there's NO such thing as moderation. I can literally time when a trigger food is going to "hit," like your sister, Cee.Even for men or women who aren't having hormonal issues, giving up sugar or other trigger foods could make all the difference in dealing with depression. And the thing is, if you aren't having noticeable physical symptoms, you might never realize that food is affecting your moods. Naturally, if someone is already under a doctors care, they shouldn't dump all their meds. But I know there are literally millions of people out there who are depressed and DON'T go to their doctor. This could be really HUGE in helping someone who doesn't understand why they are depressed. There are other simple remedies for depression, like magnesium, B vitamins, and cod liver oil, especially in the winter when it's not possible to be out in the sun. Lack of sun is a big reason people get depressed in the winter. Cyndi

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Chemo seems to have put me into early menopause too, but I don't feel like I'm having hormonal problems, which is good. I've been taking some meds for neuropathy (Lyrica) lately that HAVE been messing with me, I get irritable as soon as I take them. I told my doctor I don't deal well with meds and I needed the LOWEST possible strength. And I still have side effects. I've been researching some natural remedies for the neuropathy.

 

Menopause at 29! Yikes! You were practically a baby still!

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 3/2/2007 8:52:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

 

Cyndi,

 

Ya know, it's been so long since I've eaten sugar or had hormone problems that I've forgotten what it was like, LOL! I've been diabetic for, what...6 or 7 years (that I know of, that is!), and have avoided sugar since, and I went through menopause at 29 (I'm now 47), so no more mood swings. Recently I was taking Flexerile(sp?) for a pulled muscle, and for some reason, I get very irritable when I take that kind of stuff. I found myself being very short with Roman and I almost snapped at him for no reason, then I burst out laughing because I realized that I hadn't had an irrational mood swing like that since I was a lot younger!!!

 

--Cee--

 

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Cyndi,

 

Ya know, it's been so long since I've eaten sugar or had hormone problems that I've forgotten what it was like, LOL! I've been diabetic for, what...6 or 7 years (that I know of, that is!), and have avoided sugar since, and I went through menopause at 29 (I'm now 47), so no more mood swings. Recently I was taking Flexerile(sp?) for a pulled muscle, and for some reason, I get very irritable when I take that kind of stuff. I found myself being very short with Roman and I almost snapped at him for no reason, then I burst out laughing because I realized that I hadn't had an irrational mood swing like that since I was a lot younger!!!

 

--Cee--

 

 

Re: Fw: CS>Self-allergy testing

Posted by: "cyndik2" cyndikrall cyndik2

Thu Mar 1, 2007 12:05 pm (PST)

Another thing I wanted to mention about food sensitivities- if you know anyone dealing with depression, I HIGHLY encourage you to pass on this test to them! I never realized how badly sugar affected my moods until I eliminated them from my diet. I didn't make the connection at first. I was having a lot of hormone issues-the women in my family go into menopause early-and I was looking for dietary remedies. The first one was give up sugar, lol. I couldn't believe the difference it made in my whole outlook on life. I believe I solved a lot of my hormonal issues just by doing this simple thing. I expanded it to limiting my grains, and the difference was remarkable. And for me, there's NO such thing as moderation. I can literally time when a trigger food is going to "hit," like your sister, Cee.Even for men or women who aren't having hormonal issues, giving up sugar or other trigger foods could make all the difference in dealing with depression. And the thing is, if you aren't having noticeable physical symptoms, you might never realize that food is affecting your moods. Naturally, if someone is already under a doctors care, they shouldn't dump all their meds. But I know there are literally millions of people out there who are depressed and DON'T go to their doctor. This could be really HUGE in helping someone who doesn't understand why they are depressed. There are other simple remedies for depression, like magnesium, B vitamins, and cod liver oil, especially in the winter when it's not possible to be out in the sun. Lack of sun is a big reason people get depressed in the winter. Cyndi

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Yeah...all three of us girls, my sisters Chris and Yvonne and myself,

all went through " premature ovarian failure. " Yvonne and I were

lucky to have started early, otherwise we wouldn't have kids. Chris

waited later and almost didn't make it! She spent years with

fertility specialists and had many surgeries and procedures, all to

no avail. It's the old story though...she had given up and figured

it wouldn't happen, when her doctor's office preformed a test for

something totally unrelated and informed her she was pregnant! The

baby was premature but survived, and she went into full-blown

menopause shortly after his birth. Since there was no previous

history of early menopause in the family, they figure it was due to

the auto-immune disease that runs in the family. (The same disease

that causes thyroid disease, etc.)

 

Now, as for you, Cyndi...how old are you? 52 is the average age for

menopause, and I think you are considerably younger than that. I did

not know that chemo caused that, but I shouldn't be surprised. If it

can make all your hair fall out and get you sicker than a dog, why

not early menopause??? <wiggles eyebrows>

 

--Cee--

 

 

RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> Chemo seems to have put me into early menopause too, but I don't

feel like

> I'm having hormonal problems, which is good. I've been taking some

meds for

> neuropathy (Lyrica) lately that HAVE been messing with me, I get

irritable as

> soon as I take them. I told my doctor I don't deal well with meds

and I needed

> the LOWEST possible strength. And I still have side effects. I've

been

> researching some natural remedies for the neuropathy.

>

> Menopause at 29! Yikes! You were practically a baby still!

>

> Cyndi

>

[Guest guest]

Cee, that is incredible-that all you girls should go thru the same thing! I'm glad your sister was finally able to have a baby-I know what a heartbreak it is for women who want babies and can't have them.

 

I am 45, so it may or may not be menopause. I'd like to get to a Gyn one of these days and get my hormones tested to see for sure what is going on. 4-6 months is usually the recovery period after the end of chemo, so it's early yet to tell for sure.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 3/2/2007 5:43:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

Yeah...all three of us girls, my sisters Chris and Yvonne and myself, all went through "premature ovarian failure." Yvonne and I were lucky to have started early, otherwise we wouldn't have kids. Chris waited later and almost didn't make it! She spent years with fertility specialists and had many surgeries and procedures, all to no avail. It's the old story though...she had given up and figured it wouldn't happen, when her doctor's office preformed a test for something totally unrelated and informed her she was pregnant! The baby was premature but survived, and she went into full-blown menopause shortly after his birth. Since there was no previous history of early menopause in the family, they figure it was due to the auto-immune disease that runs in the family. (The same disease that causes thyroid disease, etc.) Now, as for you, Cyndi...how old are you? 52 is the average age for menopause, and I think you are considerably younger than that. I did not know that chemo caused that, but I shouldn't be surprised. If it can make all your hair fall out and get you sicker than a dog, why not early menopause??? <wiggles eyebrows>--Cee--RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:>> > Chemo seems to have put me into early menopause too, but I don't feel like

 

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Cee, have you considered seeing a geneticist? I talked to my Onc about this a couple months ago, and she is going to refer me to one. I've often wondered how it came to be so prevalent in my mother's family. I'd sure like to know if my brothers or their families or my sons are at any risks.

 

I wish you luck with your grandbaby and the vax issue. It is truly a tough road to follow. You'll have to fight the public school system the entire time they are in school. You've probably thought about this already, but you might want to research what kind of legal options you have in your state to satisfy the schools requirements. There's usually a "religious, ethical or moral" clause that allows you to get around it. Have you approached your son and DIL about it yet? That might be the hardest battle, lol. Personally, i think autism is just the tip of that iceberg. I wouldn't be surprised if they find links to other diseases in the future, too. Just seeing what vaccinations do to dogs and cats is scary enough. I keep reading reports about pets getting cancer at the site of the vaccination.

 

Well, I'm off to juice my afternoon veggie tonic, lol.

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 3/4/2007 11:42:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

Yes, it is too early to tell...your body may "right" itself in the next 6 months. Depends on how much of a shock your body took, I guess!Just discussing this makes me wonder if our auto-immune disease is totally a genetic thing or if there has been any toxic chemical exposure to exacerbate it??? It's probably not as it known to be an inherited gene, but I'm looking at patterns here. Just like you ended up with the same disease as your mother (and that is NOT supposed to be inherited); my co-worker Mary Ellen got breast cancer very young and there is an appallingly high incidence of various cancers in both her family and entire neighborhood (they are downwind from an industrial area); and here is disease that is *usually* inherited (but can be brought on by chemical exposure) that popped up out of nowhere. Well...who's to say that us girls and my dad weren't all exposed to the same thing??? <shrugs shoulders> My dad used to work with highly toxic chemicals in the 50's and 60's, at a time when they were believed to be "safe." Today they are ALL banned. I can remember him coming home stinking of something that smelled like gasoline and bug spray, and having to take a long shower to get it off of him. We'll never know for sure. I guess that's for future generations to find out. I am worried now about my future grandchild getting vaccinations. It might take some convincing but I do NOT want to take a chance. 1 chance out of 100 and something for autism is WAY too high for me...(((HUGS)))--Cee--RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:>> > Cee, that is incredible-that all you girls should go thru the same thing! > I'm glad your sister was finally able to have a baby-I know what a heartbreak > it is for women who want babies and can't have them.> > I am 45, so it may or may not be menopause. I'd like to get to a Gyn one of > these days and get my hormones tested to see for sure what is going on. 4-6 > months is usually the recovery period after the end of chemo, so it's early > yet to tell for sure. >

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is too early to tell...your body may " right " itself in the

next 6 months. Depends on how much of a shock your body took, I

guess!

 

Just discussing this makes me wonder if our auto-immune disease is

totally a genetic thing or if there has been any toxic chemical

exposure to exacerbate it??? It's probably not as it known to be an

inherited gene, but I'm looking at patterns here. Just like you

ended up with the same disease as your mother (and that is NOT

supposed to be inherited); my co-worker Mary Ellen got breast cancer

very young and there is an appallingly high incidence of various

cancers in both her family and entire neighborhood (they are downwind

from an industrial area); and here is disease that is *usually*

inherited (but can be brought on by chemical exposure) that popped up

out of nowhere. Well...who's to say that us girls and my dad weren't

all exposed to the same thing??? <shrugs shoulders> My dad used to

work with highly toxic chemicals in the 50's and 60's, at a time when

they were believed to be " safe. " Today they are ALL banned. I can

remember him coming home stinking of something that smelled like

gasoline and bug spray, and having to take a long shower to get it

off of him.

 

We'll never know for sure. I guess that's for future generations to

find out. I am worried now about my future grandchild getting

vaccinations. It might take some convincing but I do NOT want to

take a chance. 1 chance out of 100 and something for autism is WAY

too high for me...

 

(((HUGS)))

 

--Cee--

 

 

 

RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> Cee, that is incredible-that all you girls should go thru the same

thing!

> I'm glad your sister was finally able to have a baby-I know what a

heartbreak

> it is for women who want babies and can't have them.

>

> I am 45, so it may or may not be menopause. I'd like to get to a

Gyn one of

> these days and get my hormones tested to see for sure what is

going on. 4-6

> months is usually the recovery period after the end of chemo, so

it's early

> yet to tell for sure.

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know about people but in dogs a great majority of auto-immune diseases are caused by vaccinations.

 

Barbara

 

Just discussing this makes me wonder if our auto-immune disease is totally a genetic thing or if there has been any toxic chemical exposure to exacerbate it??? <snip>

[Guest guest]

Wow, really? I had a hell of a time in Texas, when we moved there. And that was just trying to get together all the kids shot records. I couldn't imagine trying to deal with NO immun. records. Well, I'm glad it seems to be fairly easy! I should have thought of telling the schools in TX that I had NO records due to religious preferences, lolol.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 3/4/2007 2:57:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, barbara3 writes:

 

No Cyndi, you are mistaken about the problems in school when you take an exemption from the vaccines. All you have to do is go to the school board and take as many sheets as many children you have and sign them as a religious (the easiest) exemption and they will file them and that's it. At least that is what I'm hearing on several lists and from several states. It is not a problem at all and much safer for the child.

 

Barbara

 

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No Cyndi, you are mistaken about the problems in school when you take an exemption from the vaccines. All you have to do is go to the school board and take as many sheets as many children you have and sign them as a religious (the easiest) exemption and they will file them and that's it. At least that is what I'm hearing on several lists and from several states. It is not a problem at all and much safer for the child.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

 

 

I wish you luck with your grandbaby and the vax issue. It is truly a tough road to follow. You'll have to fight the public school system the entire time they are in school. You've probably thought about this already, but you might want to research what kind of legal options you have in your state to satisfy the schools requirements. There's usually a "religious, ethical or moral" clause that allows you to get around it. Have you approached your son and DIL about it yet? That might be the hardest battle, lol. Personally, i think autism is just the tip of that iceberg. I wouldn't be surprised if they find links to other diseases in the future, too. Just seeing what vaccinations do to dogs and cats is scary enough. I keep reading reports about pets getting cancer at the site of the vaccination.

 

Well, I'm off to juice my afternoon veggie tonic, lol.

Cyndi

 

[Guest guest]

At this juncture...no. I'm past childbearing, and if there any health "surprises" in my future, I would rather that they stay that way..."surprises." Heh-heh. I have no interest in worrying about what might be, LOL! As for my pending grandchild, both Nikki and Terrance have worked closely with the OB and are participating in any and all genetic tests they can get on the baby so they can be prepared if something is wrong. So far everything has come back perfectly normal. Terrance seems to have skipped most of the defective "Browne" genes and has taken more from his dad's side. (Thank God!) Terrance does not have auto-immune disease, though he may be a carrier. A boy is not likely to get it, but a girl could. There is no incidence of it in Nikki's family, so even if he is a carrier, the chances are lower. The good part is that they are both health and fitness buffs, and with clean, healthy living and good mental health, auto-immune disease does not usually strike until old age. (Exposure to toxins and chemicals, pregnancy and severe mental stress can all bring it on early.)

 

Speaking of stress...that's another red herring in the mix. We come from a long line of dysfunctional people, so all of us kids were exposed to extraordinary stress and dysfunctional living circumstances that may also have contributed to the "early" onset of our auto-immune disease. It's amazing how much disease can be brought on by stress--especially in women, but men are not immune. When all 3 of us girls were in therapy years ago (we all saw the same psychologist, LOL!), the therapist pointed out to me that mentally "well" people do not get sick the way that dysfunctional people do, and she's right! I started reading up on the subject and there is a whole host of diseases, illnesses and general health problems that plague people who are not psychologically "well." Did you know that until America started getting this epidemic of obesity that now skews the statistics, that one out of every three obese females were molested or sexually assaulted as a child? The incidence of that amongst thin women was much lower, but where it was present without obesity, you often found promiscuity, drug and alcohol problems.

 

This just proves to me how important it is for all of us to keep ourselves both mentally and physically well, and to do what makes us feel happy and fulfilled... <smiles>

 

(((HUGS)))

 

--Celia--

 

 

Re: Fw: CS>Self-allergy testing

Posted by: "cyndikrall" cyndikrall cyndik2

Sun Mar 4, 2007 1:44 pm (PST)

Cee, have you considered seeing a geneticist? I talked to my Onc about this a couple months ago, and she is going to refer me to one. I've often wondered how it came to be so prevalent in my mother's family. I'd sure like to know if my brothers or their families or my sons are at any risks.

 

[Guest guest]

It's funny you mention this, Cee. I was just today reading about the "cancer personality" and about how the way we process stress and anger in our life can contribute to getting cancer. It's amazing how mental health and physical health are related.

 

cyndi

 

In a message dated 3/5/2007 6:32:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

 

At this juncture...no. I'm past childbearing, and if there any health "surprises" in my future, I would rather that they stay that way..."surprises." Heh-heh. I have no interest in worrying about what might be, LOL! As for my pending grandchild, both Nikki and Terrance have worked closely with the OB and are participating in any and all genetic tests they can get on the baby so they can be prepared if something is wrong. So far everything has come back perfectly normal. Terrance seems to have skipped most of the defective "Browne" genes and has taken more from his dad's side. (Thank God!) Terrance does not have auto-immune disease, though he may be a carrier. A boy is not likely to get it, but a girl could. There is no incidence of it in Nikki's family, so even if he is a carrier, the chances are lower. The good part is that they are both health and fitness buffs, and with clean, healthy living and good mental health, auto-immune disease does not usually strike until old age. (Exposure to toxins and chemicals, pregnancy and severe mental stress can all bring it on early.)

 

Speaking of stress...that's another red herring in the mix. We come from a long line of dysfunctional people, so all of us kids were exposed to extraordinary stress and dysfunctional living circumstances that may also have contributed to the "early" onset of our auto-immune disease. It's amazing how much disease can be brought on by stress--especially in women, but men are not immune. When all 3 of us girls were in therapy years ago (we all saw the same psychologist, LOL!), the therapist pointed out to me that mentally "well" people do not get sick the way that dysfunctional people do, and she's right! I started reading up on the subject and there is a whole host of diseases, illnesses and general health problems that plague people who are not psychologically "well." Did you know that until America started getting this epidemic of obesity that now skews the statistics, that one out of every three obese females were molested or sexually assaulted as a child? The incidence of that amongst thin women was much lower, but where it was present without obesity, you often found promiscuity, drug and alcohol problems.

 

This just proves to me how important it is for all of us to keep ourselves both mentally and physically well, and to do what makes us feel happy and fulfilled... <smiles>

 

(((HUGS)))

 

--Celia--

 

 

Re: Fw: CS>Self-allergy testing

Posted by: "cyndikrall" cyndikrall cyndik2

Sun Mar 4, 2007 1:44 pm (PST)

Cee, have you considered seeing a geneticist? I talked to my Onc about this a couple months ago, and she is going to refer me to one. I've often wondered how it came to be so prevalent in my mother's family. I'd sure like to know if my brothers or their families or my sons are at any risks.

 

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