Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 There really are no studies that prove vaccines are safe and that they even effectively prevent the illnesses they're supposed to. Doctors will say they do, but IMO they're just parroting what they're taught, usually by the vaccine makers. The way our immune systems are supposed to work is the virus is either ingested or inhaled into the respiratory system, the brain senses it and mobilizes antibodies to go to work to overpower it and prevent it getting into the blood. Now, injecting a virus (live or dead) seems to me like it bypasses some important aspect of immune function, not to mention putting it directly into the bloodstream which is what out immune system it trying to prevent. Nope, just don't make any sense to me.... sue Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Judy Fitzgerald " <victoria_dragon@h...> wrote: > The Chinese discoverd and used vaccinations several centuries before they > were discovered in the West. But they were used in China and in the > beginning in the West in a lot saner manner than today. There were no > dozens of shots at very young ages. Only the worst diseases that did the > most damage and were the most common were vaccinated against. Vaccinations > - especially new vaccinations - are money makers. So a rush has been on to > vaccinate against anything and everything, even when the risk from the > vaccination is greater than the risk of getting the disease! > > And like many pharmaceuticals today, there is not enough concern with safety > and both short- and long-term effects. > > We've gone overboard on the vaccination thing. There is some evidence that > the immune system doesn't develop like it should when too many vaccinations > are given and especially at too young of an age. > > And at the same time we've been rushing to vaccinate anything and everything > and develop new (and more expensive) drugs, the funding for basic public > health measures has been decreased and even slashed. Hence, one factor in > the rise of TB cases. (It's not the only factor, but it is one.) Increased > numbers of homeless people also have played a role in the U.S. as well as > some other things. Anyone who thinks that health problems from pollution or > from infectious diseases are going to stop at an international boundary or > at a state line, or not invade more economically properous neighborhoods > within a city or town are living in a fool's paradise. Germs and pollution > don't say, " Oh no, here's the border between countries (or the state line or > the city limits) so <screech> I have to stop here. Can't cross that line. " > > Victoria > > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 Agreed totally - the schools here have just started this years sacrifices to the pharmacutical companies and I have strictly forbidden my children to have them - much to the annoyance of the school. Having recently done an essay on this subject and the damage it leaves I would not get them vaccinated. With our thoughts we make the World. StormwalkerICQ# 40246877 - Judy Fitzgerald Chinese Traditional Medicine Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:07 AM [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Vaccinations The Chinese discoverd and used vaccinations several centuries before they were discovered in the West. But they were used in China and in the beginning in the West in a lot saner manner than today ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release 7/08/2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 I am a nurse---one who knows the dangers of receiving these. In '91 I received the hepatitis vaccine--this is a series of 3 injections given over a certain time period. The series was interrupted due to a job change; so since 6 months had passed--the new hosp re-started the series. Before I received my 4th--I suggested they might want to do a titer--but was told it was quite expensive, etc, and since I had no problems with the other 3, there was no reason to think there would be a problem. Well, there was a problem. I ended up with a one-in-a- million reaction. With in 4 hours time, I had excruiating pain in my elbow and shoulder--I called the hosp and was told to take Ibuprofen and that helped a bit. But that was only the beginning. I received the injection on Thrusday morning--by Saturday I could no longer feed myself. It was as if my fingers would not do what I tried to get them to--And I went back to the doctor and was diagnosed with Guiiian Barre--a disease that very little is known about--can be caused by a vaccination or a virus or neither. It is a paralyzing virus in that some or all of the muscles-- in ascending or descending order--become paralyzed. Some people recover; some people do not. Aprroximately 2/3 of my muscles were paralyzed--the rest labored having to carry the workload of my entire body--as a result they were in constant spasm. For which I could take nothing due to the fact if those muscles relaxed and quit working, so would my diaphragm--and I would end up on a ventilator. I was so terrified. By the end of 2 I could barely walk. I was out of work from Nov 7th until mid-April----I had a paperwork job that was only a few hours a week that I managed to maintain. The hosp denied me worker's comp---even though they required this vaccine--and then denied my insurance. So I got a lawyer--I had no breath to talk or argue-- I had to let someone else do this. I started physical therapy in mid-Jan---I wasn't allowed to do anything at first--they just worked on the muscle spasms. And they found out where I was as far as physical activity. I recall on the first visit her asking me if I could do a sit-up---and I said " sure " --and she asked how many--I said " oh at least 20--but I will be sore tomorrow " --she asked me to do one--and I could not raise up at all. I did not realize how bad it was until then. (Or maybe I knew--but denial is a great coping mechanism!) Well, I will stop this--for those of you who were vacccinated at some time in the past agaist smallpox--get a titer--insist on one--you may still be immune. They really do not know--it is a guessing game at this point. Since that point, I have learned I am a highly allergic person. My titers for all the childhood diseases are sky-high. I have environmental allergies, food allergies, insect allergies, and of course, medication. Up until that point, I had only one severe reaction to a medication--after that, allergies were everywhere it seemed. Just something to think about . . . Kate ===== Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Celia, hope you will find your answers in this article. Barbara INOCULATIONS: THE TRUE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION CAUSING VIDS (VACCINE INDUCED DISEASES) (AN EPIDEMIC OF GENOCIDE) by Dr. Rebecca Carley, M.D. Court Qualified Expert in VIDS and Legal Abuse Syndrome "One basic truth can be used as a foundation for a mountain of lies,and if we dig down deep enough in the mountain of lies, and bring out thattruth, to set it on top of the mountain of lies; the entire mountain of lieswill crumble under the weight of that one truth. And there is nothing moredevastating to a structure of lies than the revelation of the truth uponwhich the structure of lies was built, because the shock waves of therevelation of the truth reverberate, and continue to reverberate throughoutthe Earth for generations to follow, awakening even those people who had nodesire to be awakened to the truth." (by Delamar Duvaris as written in thepreface of "Behold the Pale Horse" by William Cooper). The basic truth that served as the foundation for the mountain of liesknown as vaccinations was the observation that mammals who recover frominfection with microorganisms acquire natural immunity from furtherinfections. Whenever T cells (the little packman cells which kill viruses,bacteria, and cancer cells, thus conferring cellular immunity) and B cells(antibody producing cells which confer humoral immunity) are activated byvarious substances foreign to the body called antigens, some of the T and Bcells become memory cells. Thus, the next time the individual meets up withthat same antigen, the immune system can be quickly triggered to demolishit. This is the process known as immunity. This truth gave birth to a beLIEf that if a foreign antigen wasinjected into an individual, that individual would then become immune to afuture infection. This beLIEf, (you see the lie in the middle), was giventhe name, "vaccinations". What the promoters of vaccination failed torealize is that the respiratory tract of ALL mammals (since animals are justas devastated by these inoculations with disease as are humans) containsecretory IgA (an antibody which initiates the natural God given immuneresponse) within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosalaspect of the immune system by directly injecting organisms into thebloodstream leads to a corruption in the immune system itself. As a result,the pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune systemand remain in the body, where they will further grow and/or mutate as theindividual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environmentwhich continue to assault the immune system. The mechanism by which the immune system is corrupted can best berealized when you understand that the two poles of the immune system (thecellular and humoral mechanisms) have a reciprocal relationship. Thus, whenone is stimulated, the other is inhibited. Since vaccines activate the Bcells to secrete antibody, the T cells are subsequently suppressed. Thissuppression of the cell mediated response is a key factor in the developmentof cancer and life threatening infections. In fact, the "prevention" of adisease via vaccination is, in reality, an inability to expel organisms dueto the suppression of the cell-mediated response. Thus, rather thanpreventing disease; they actually prevent the disease from ever beingresolved. The organisms continue circulating through the body, mutating andtransforming into other organisms (as demonstrated by the work of ProfessorAntoine Bechamp), depending on the acidity and toxicity of the internalterrain of the body. Note that Bechamp proved that Louis Pasteur's "germtheory" of disease was incorrect due to this ability of organisms totransform and mutate based on the body's internal terrain (as Pasteuradmitted on his deathbed). Thus, treatment of infection with antibiotics aswell as "prevention" of disease with vaccines are both just examples ofcutting off the branches of dis-ease, when the root of the cause is a toxicinternal environment. However, since Pasteur's germ theory was conducive tothe profits of the burgeoning pharmaceutical companies who only managedis-ease, no mention of the work of Professor Bechamp has been made inmedical school curricula. To make matters worse than the suppression of cellular immunity whichoccurs when vaccines are injected, adjuvants (which are substances added tovaccines to enhance the antibody response) can actually lead to serious sideeffects themselves. Adjuvants include oil emulsions, mineral compounds(which may contain the heavy metal aluminum), bacterial products, liposomes(which allow delayed release of substances), and squalene. The side effectsof adjuvants themselves include hyperactivity of B cells leading topathologic levels of antibody production, as well as allergic reaction tothe adjuvants themselves (as demonstrated in Gulf War I soldiers injectedwith vaccines containing the adjuvant squalene, to which antibodies werefound in many soldiers). Note that the pathologically elevated hyperactivityof antibody production caused by adjuvants also results in a distractionfrom the other antigens that the immune system encounters "naturally", whichmust be addressed to maintain health. This hyperactivity of the humoral (antibody producing) pole of theimmune system is, in this author's opinion, the sole cause of all autoimmunediseases. The only thing which determines which autoimmune disease youdevelop is which tissues in your body are attacked by auto-antibodies. Ifthe inside lining of the gastrointestinal tract (the mucosa) is attacked byauto-antibodies you develop leaky gut syndrome (which leads to foodallergies when partially digested food particles are released into thebloodstream, are recognized as antigens foreign to the body, and elicit anantibody response against those food particles that becomes heightened everytime that same food is eaten and released into the bloodstream partiallydigested again). Crohn's disease and colitis are also caused byauto-antibody attack on the mucosa of the GI tract itself. If the islet(insulin producing) cells of the pancreas are attacked by auto-antibodies,you develop insulin dependent (juvenile) diabetes. If the respiratorymucosa is attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop "leaky lung" syndromewhere, just as with leaky gut, antigens recognized as foreign to the bodywhich are inhaled are able to traverse the lining of the respiratory tract,causing the creation of antibodies against those antigens (usually dust,mold, pet or pollen antigens). When these substances are inhaled again, theallergic response producing constriction of the bronchioles is calledasthma. If the components of the articular surface of the joints areattacked by auto-antibodies, you develop rheumatoid (or juvenile) arthritis.If the skin is attacked, you develop "leaky skin" syndrome, where contactantigens which could not otherwise traverse the skin are allowed in, leadingto skin allergies to contact antigens. Additionally, depending on whichlevel of the skin is attacked by auto-antibodies, (i.e., the epidermis ordermis), you develop eczema, psoriasis or scleroderma. If the kidney tissueis attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop one of the many types ofnephritis, depending on which component of renal tissue is attacked (forexample, with glomerulonephritis, the basement membrane of the glomerularapparatus within the kidney (which filters blood to form urine) is attackedby auto-antibodies, thus allowing protein to escape from the serum into theurine). If you develop auto-antibodies against thyroid gland tissue, youdevelop Grave's disease. If you develop auto-antibodies against the tissueof the thymus gland (which is crucial in T cell production and function),you develop myasthenia gravis. If you develop auto-antibodies against thevery DNA in the nucleus of all cells, you develop systemic Lupus (thus, thepotential autoimmune potential of DNA vaccines being developed now is selfevident; worse yet, DNA components from these vaccines can be incorporatedinto your DNA, leading to actual genetic changes which could causeextinction of all (vaccinated) life on the Earth). And on, and on, and on. The brain and spinal cord can also be attacked with auto-antibodies(which this author refers to as vaccine induced encephalitis), leading to avariety of neurological diseases. The most severe of these, leading todeath, are sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) and most cases of "shakenbaby syndrome". If components of the myelin sheath (the insulating coveringof nerve fibers which allows proper nerve conduction) or the actualneurofilaments themselves are attacked by auto-antibodies, the resultantcondition is determined solely by the location of the damage done. Suchneurological conditions include but are not limited to minimal braindysfunction, ADD/ADHD, learning disabilities, mental retardation, criminalbehavior, the spectrum of pervasive developmental disorders (includingautism), multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Lou Gehrig's disease, GuillenBarre', seizure disorders, etc., etc. etc. (Please note that other toxinsare also sometimes involved, such as: aspartame, Lymes and mercury in casesof MS; aspartame in seizures; or pesticides in cases of Parkinson's). Thus,when detoxing to reverse these diseases, these other substances must also bedetoxed to obtain a full recovery. However, the corruption of the immunesystem caused by the injection of vaccines is a key component in thesedisease states leading to immune malfunction, and is the reason why anautistic child may also have leaky gut or eczema, etc. Note that myelinproduction, for the most part, does not begin until after birth. Most myelinis apparently laid down by age 5 years and usually completed by age 10years, judging by the level of success at various ages in reversing autisticand other neurological VIDS symptoms that this author has observed inhundreds of children by detoxing the viruses with homeopathic nosodes, andrepairing the immune corruption by simultaneous administration of bovinecolostrum (i.e., after 10 years of age, the ability to stop and repairauto-antibody induced damage in the myelin sheath and neurofilamentsthemselves is dramatically decreased). Thus, the hyperactivity of the humoral arm of the immune system inautoimmune disease is caused by adjuvants added just for that purpose.However, the autoimmunity itself (i.e., antibody against self) has severalmechanisms, including the following:1. The antigens present in the culture media itself cannot be completelyfiltered and separated from the organisms cultured thereon. Thus, anyantibodies formed against antigens from the culture cells themselves (forexample myelin basic protein from chick embryos or the 13 vaccines which nowcontain aborted fetal cells) can cross-react to form an autoimmune reactionagainst the myelin basic protein in your myelin sheath, etc.2. Molecular mimicry is due to similarity of proteins contained inorganisms and mammals. (For example, the measles virus is made up ofproteins similar to myelin basic protein; thus, antibodies formed againstthe measles virus antigens subsequently also cause an auto-antibody attackagainst myelin basic protein in the myelin sheath due to cross reactivity ofthese antibodies).3. intentional inclusion of antigens in vaccines to cause formation ofantibodies that attack specific hormones or races (for example, experimentsdone on women of childbearing age in the Philippines and probably otherlocations where HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin, the hormone produced whenwomen first become pregnant) placed into vaccines given these women resultedin antibodies against the HCG hormone, and subsequent spontaneous abortionthus occurred when the women became pregnant. It is also this author'shypothesis that the epidemic of vitiligo in people of color (hypopigmentation of skin caused by auto-antibody attack on melanocytes (melaninproducing cells) in skin) is also occurring due to intentional inclusion ofmelanin in vaccines given to people of color. In addition to the above phenomena which lead to simultaneousdepression of cellular immune function and hyperactivity of humoral immunefunction, vaccines also contain other toxic substances which can causeserious side effects themselves. The following ingredients are actuallylisted on the CDC website with this introductory statement: "Many things intoday's world, including food and medicines, have chemicals added to them toprevent the growth of germs and reduce spoilage." Translation: you'realready toxic, so what's the big deal with adding more poison? This author'sanswer to that question is that any immunotoxin can end up being the "strawthat breaks the immune system's back" in that individual, leading todis-ease. This is where genetics is key; i.e., not that what disease youdevelop is actually caused by some "gene" in most cases; but rather thatyour genes determine the strength of your immune system (i.e., how manyassaults your immune system can take before it reaches critical mass, andyou develop a dis-ease). Some additional ingredients in vaccines (as listed by the CDC ontheir website) include antibiotics, aluminum gels, formaldehyde, monosodiumglutamate (MSG), egg protein, and sulfites. Thus, we have antibiotics(which you could be allergic to); aluminum (highly involved in causingAlzheimer's disease); formaldehyde (a toxic carcinogenic substance used topickle dead people); MSG ( a potent excitotoxin which, like aspartame, cancause seizures, brain tumors, etc.); egg protein (to which you could have alife threatening anaphylactic reaction); and sulfites (another toxin whichwe are advised not to consume much of orally, but in vaccines, it isinjected directly into the blood stream). Is this not a veritable witch'sbrew of chemicals, organisms, and animal or human (aborted fetus) bodyparts? Note in this list that they do not mention the ethyl-mercurycontaining preservative thimerosol, which has been the only dangeroussubstance in vaccines to receive mainstream media attention (albeit most ofthat being disinformation) after the explosion in the rate of occurrence ofautism in the last generation became self-evident proof that vaccines arethe causative factor. For, although the scientists working for the medicalmafia continue to use statistics to twist and spin their data to make usbeLIEve that vaccines are not the cause, too many thousands of parents havewatched their children enter the downward spiral into autism after theirchildren received the vaccine which was the straw that broke the back oftheir child's immune system. No matter what the "white coats" tell theseparents; they know the truth! Mercury (also in dental amalgam fillings) is a highly toxic heavymetal, has been documented to cause cancer, and can be absorbed through thedigestive track, skin, and respiratory track. Mercury is 1,000 times moretoxic than lead, and is second only to uranium as the most toxic metal. Ifchildren receive all recommended vaccines, they will receive 2,370 times the"allowable safe limit" for mercury in the first two years of life (as ifthere is such a thing as a "safe" amount of a toxic poison). Yet, evenafter Congressional hearings instigated by Congressman Dan Burton (whose owngrandchild became autistic after receiving vaccines) resulted in the FDArequesting (not ordering) vaccine manufacturers to remove this toxic heavymetal from their products, mercury is still present in many vaccines. Although the symptoms of mercury poisoning are identical to thesymptoms of autism, it should be noted that most children who descend intothe hellish state known as autism do so after the MMR vaccine. The MMRvaccine is one of the few vaccines that do not contain mercury. Thus, it isself-evident that the removal of mercury will not make vaccines "safe".(This is why the mercury is the only thing being addressed at all; becausewhen the people reading this paper realize that the very mechanism by whichvaccines corrupt the immune system means that NO vaccine is safe andeffective; there will be an evolution of consciousness where the structureof lies telling us vaccines are safe and effective disintegrates.) In theautistic community, this will lead to an exodus from the multiple autismgroups saying it is all about the mercury or worse yet, that autism genesare "inherited", to the only group which has their focus on the actualproblem. This group is named TAAP (the Autism Autoimmunity Project atwww.taap.info/), and is led by April Oakes. In this author's opinion, itwill be TAAP in alliance with the vaccine damaged soldiers and vets of theAmerican Gulf War Veterans Association at www.agwva.org led by Peter Kawajawhich, working together, will stop this holocaust on humanity called VIDS.The good news is that these VIDS can be reversed using natural remediescontained in the Hippocrates Protocol (www.drcarley.com). This "surgicalstrike" detoxification approach which has the potential to reverse ALL ofthe aforementioned conditions under the VIDS umbrella as long asdetoxification is started early enough (before age 10 for neurological VIDS)will be the one truth put on top of the mountain of lies (that vaccines aresafe and effective) that will cause the entire mountain of vaccine lies tocrumble. Combined with a massive outpouring of public support to these twoorganizations, the root of the tree of vaccine evil will be exposed. Thus,the holocaust on humanity (where instead of people being put inconcentration camps, the concentration camps are being put into the people)will finally be put to an end. Unfortunately, we can no longer pretend that this epidemic of VIDS ismerely a "mistake" made by good intentioned, albeit misguided madscientists. Because it's even worse than the above, folks.we are talkingTREASON and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, PETS, and even PLANTS, (which are alsobeing genetically modified to create vaccines). The evidence for this is asfollows: As concern for population growth started to grow and the finalplans to bring in the New World Order were put in place, this lie calledvaccines was transformed into pure evil, as it was realized that suchdelivery systems could be used to intentionally cause disease, which is nowbeing done under the US Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, § 1520 and 1524. Youcan read it for yourself at your local library, or go tohttp://www.drcarley.com/Title%2050%20US%20Code.htm. This law has been in place since the 1960's, and it was last modifiedin April of 2000. The only stipulation made for experimentation on humansubjects is that local civilian officials be notified 30 days before theexperiment is started. Section 1524 adds that the Secretary of Defense mayenter into agreements with the Secretary of Health and Human Services toprovide support for vaccination programs through use of excess peacetimebiological weapons (i.e., weapons of mass destruction). In April 2000, §1520 (a) was passed to put alleged restrictions on the use of human subjectsfor testing of chemical or biological agents after a caller on C Spanmentioned this law in 1999, which revealed this treasonous law to a hugeaudience of listeners (including this author, who has been including it inlectures and written materials since that call came into "WashingtonJournal"). However, the exceptions written to Title 50, chapter 32 under §1520 subsection (b) in the 2000 law passed by our aiders and abettors oftreason in Congress not only loophole back in a test carried out for "anypeaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical,agricultural, industrial, or research activity"; but add that suchbiological and chemical warfare agents can now be also used for any lawenforcement purpose, including "any purpose related to riot control" (justin case those C Span listeners should actually get off the couch at thehorror of what the traitors in Washington, D.C. are doing to God's people).Subsection © of this law now mandates that "informed consent" be required.In reality, not a single vaccine has ever been tested for its long term sideeffects (including carcinogenic potential). Additionally, the intentionalintroduction of stealth viruses, (including man-made viruses that causecancer, mycoplasma and the HIV virus), antigens which target certain races,(and surely a microchip in the future) into vaccines makes it self evidentthat informed consent is impossible, as it would initiate impeachmentproceedings and war crimes trials against every "public servant" involved inperpetrating these crimes against the American people, in violation of theNuremberg Code (which was written after the end of WW II to prevent thebarbaric experiments that occurred in the Nazi concentration camps) . Whatmost people don't know is that the top level mad scientists from NaziGermany were actually brought to the United States through "OperationPaperclip", and have been continuing their work to this day in places likeBrookhaven labs, Cold Spring Harbor and Plum Island in this author'sbackyard on Long Island. (To see the document proving that Americanscientists created the HIV virus, this author refers you to p. 442 of Deathin the Air by Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, where you can read the 1969 documentin which the U.S. military/CIA and Rockefeller directed National Academy ofSciences-National Research Council (NAS-NRC) announced that a researchprogram to explore the feasibility of "creating a new infectivemicroorganism.which would be refractory to the immunological and therapeuticprocesses upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom frominfectious disease" could be completed at a total cost of $10 million.)Yes, this is what your tax dollars are going towards, folks. But hang on toyour hat, because it only gets worse. The most heinous, bone chilling and evil piece of this puzzle has beenrevealed to the world by an American hero named Peter Kawaja, who worked inthe late 1980's as a security and counter terrorism expert for the UnitedStates government (a service for which he has been rewarded with the murderof his wife, torching of his home, issuance of a war crimes subpoena to(they thought) confiscate all his evidence, illegal IRS liens on allsubsequent income, and multiple attempts on his own life, all funded by YOURtax dollars). Please go to www.agwva.org/mission.htm and read some of the34 counts that Mr. Kawaja brought against the domestic traitors to America(in both their individual and governmental capacities) in a federal lawsuitin which the perpetrators, again, used your tax dollars to hire themselvesattorneys from the Department of "Justice" whose defense of their warcriminal clients was that they are "immune, under color of law". (You canlisten to Mr. Kawaja on one of his multiple internet radio shows, including"What's Ailing America?" which he co-hosts with this author atwww.highway2health.net every Wednesday at 10 PM, EST. Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute ofHealth reported in December, 2003 that "the only safe vaccine is one that isnever used". However, the reverberating truth, "the shot heard round theworld" which will lead to the evolution of consciousness necessary to stopthe holocaust against humanity known as vaccinations, will be that not onlyare vaccinations not safe or effective, but that they are actually weaponsof mass destruction being perpetrated upon humanity in the name of health,for the purpose of genocide and to bring in the New World Order. Part 2 ofthe genocidal plan could drop anytime with activation of the Model StateHealth Emergency Powers Act whenever the next fabricated terrorist attackusing biological agents occurs. Worse yet, the Congressional traitors inWashington posing as public "servants" are doing all they can to pass"Codex" legislation which will make the natural remedies and supplementsused in the Hippocrates Protocol developed by this author to reverse alldis-eases only available by prescription. So, you didn't hear about that onyour local news station either? Please go to the site of another Americanhero, John Hammell of the International Alliance for Health Freedom (whoreversed his schizophrenia symptoms with these natural supplements and hasdedicated his life to stop Codex from passing) at www.iahf.com . Wake up, America-it's getting very late..it is time for the mountainof lies to crumble. Please spread the world to everyone you know..we canmake it happen! The time to stop chopping at branches and get to the rootof this evil is now!www.drcarley.com Okay, guys...what's all the fuss about vaccines? I'm sure you're going to tell me that my head will split open and snakes will pour out, heh-heh, but I *do* want to know what makes you guys so skeptical.Okay, I gave you my justifications for wanting vaccinations. Go ahead and convince me that I'm stupid...Your Grateful Servant,--Celia-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Barbara, you can't be serious...this woman is a crack-pot! You will probably hate me after this and never want to talk to me again, but the more I read, the more I was horrified. She claims that ALL disease can prevented by not being vaccinated and that ALL disease can be cured! This woman offers not one shred of evidence to prove her point. She relies totally on anecdotal evidence--which does not mean she is wrong--but it also does not mean that she is right. She has zero credibility in my book...and I don't know any self-respecting member of the medical profession who would put sick and demented photos like the one below on their web site AND claim to have the cure for all diseases! Dr. Mercola at least offers credible evidence and sites many resources to back up his claim, and it's done with a professional air. The only thing that hurts his credibility is the fact that he has a vested interest in a product he sells at that site, but I am willing to overlook that shortcoming because he is otherwise logical and professional. This woman further claims that the silence of the American Academy of Pediatrics proves that they can't dispute her ironclad rhetoric. LOL! I look at it another way also, "Don't waste your breath talking to a fool, otherwise a person walking by will not know who the fool is." Auto immune disease, cancer and autism were all present long before vaccinations. Yes, they are higher now and yes I do believe our lifestyle, poisons, toxins, and possibly vaccinations are all contributing to our early demise, but those diseases did NOT suddenly appear when vaccines were invented. Nor will they be cured by stopping all vaccinations. Sadly, if there is a grain of truth to what she says, who is going to believe a whack-job like that? I can't... I would never say that vaccines can't, won't or don't do bad things...because they do. Look at Gillian-Barr Syndrome. But this lady has a screw loose. She believes we don't have to worry about sick people sneezing upon us as "that is not the way colds are developed." Huh??? I don't know of any doctor, scientist or anyone in the medical profession that would agree with her assessment of how colds are passed from person to person. From her site: "Whenever a person coughs or sneezes, most people cringe, thinking that thegerms are being spread around in the au and will attack people. There is noneed to fear those germs any more, because that is not the way colds aredeveloped. Germs cant live apart from the cells (host) and cant do harmanyway, even if they wanted to. They have no teeth to bite anyone, nopoison pouches like snakes, mosquitoes or bees, and do not multiply, exceptin decomposed substances, so they are helpless to harm. As stated before,their purpose is useful, not destructive.The 1918 flu was the most devastating disease we ever had, and it broughtforth all the medical bag of tricks to quell it, but those added drugs, allof which are poisons, only intensified the over-poisoned condition of thepeople, so the treatments actually killed more than the vaccines did." I am not dismissing the idea that vaccinations might be bad but I am dismissing this person as a certifiable nut-job, and I can understand why no professionals want to talk to her... Respectfully Yours, Celia CLICK HERE: [ 1-2-3-4 ] FOR DR. CARLEY'S DIAGRAMS WHICH REVEAL THE CAUSE OF ALL DISEASE AS WELL AS HOW ALL DISEASES CAN BE REVERSED WITH NATURAL THERAPIES (The 4th diagram is the big picture of her Hippocrates Protocol which she develops on an individual basis and teaches her clients who obtain consults after reviewing their history of toxin exposure)............... If you wish to contact Dr. Carley for a consult to learn how to reverse your disease with natural remedies, please call her at 828-294-0662 9A-9P/EST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 LOL....No, your reaction will not stop me talking to you... LOL And I will not try to defend that woman either because there is no need to. There are plenty of sites that talk about terible damage that vaccines are doing to people, babies, and plenty of sites that show that unvaccinated children do not get sick the way that vaccinated ones do. Sure, most are anecdotal but who do you think has enough money to conduct the study to prove that vaccines or other drugs for that matter are so very harmful? Take autism for example. Before the vaccines there was autistic child for every 10,000 children. Today there is one for every 166. Do you call it coincidence? Maybe, until you have that one in 166. Amish people do not vaccinate and there is no autistic children in their families. Vaccinated kids gets ear infections many times before they grow out of them, but nonvaxed kids do not. There are examples everywhere like this and even though they are anecdotal, if thre are so many of them, they become statistic and as good as scientific studies. Talking about pets. The worst is immune mediated hemolytic anemia. It is deadly. Unvaxed dogs do net get it, only vaxed ones do. Even vets are admiting that fact. Epilepsy also can be broght up by vaccines. Skin allergies, digestive system problems and cancer. All from vaccines. You know, even if I wrote a book, I would not give you all the examples of damage that vaccines do to people and pets. And they do not protect anyone. Only your own strong immune system does. But vaccines destroy it. That's how they are designed. Most of the diseases that we are vaccinated against were already on the decline when the vaccines for them were introduced. People and all animals do acquire natural immunity, if not, there would be no life on Earth left. Barbara Barbara, you can't be serious...this woman is a crack-pot! You will probably hate me after this and never want to talk to me again, but the more I read, the more I was horrified. She claims that ALL disease can prevented by not being vaccinated and that ALL disease can be cured! Respectfully Yours, Celia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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