Re[2]: How to live job free

January 15, 2007

Hi Cyndi,

I also worked as a cook before becoming a notary, interesting synch! I loved cooking too, but it was very hard work. I mainly worked in hospitals, I tried a restaurant once but -wow, that was really hard!

There are some good ways to make money online now. The one I've had the most success with is t-shirt design at http://www.cafepress.com If you're good at coming up with funny sayings or drawing simple designs, then there's a chance you can make a lot of money. Me and my s/o have been doing this for several years now, it took us a while to find something that really sold well, but now we have a solid secondary income coming in every month.

Right now I'm working part time in a store, while I'm trying to get my private Notary biz off the ground. Hopefully, I'll be able to combine that with my online income and live job free by next year.

John M

On 1/14/2007 at 4:19 PM cyndikrall wrote:

Sluggy, you mean you didn't have a problem with the phone sex career recommendation? ROFL!!!!! I couldn't believe my eyes, lol. Oh, well, to each his/her own!

When i worked in banking, one of my various jobs one time was as a "floater." I did not have a permanent branch to work in, I just traveled to different branches when their Customer Service Reps were out sick or on vacation, etc. It was awesome, and I loved it. It suited my temperment, and I loved traveling to different parts of the county.

Having worked in a restaurant for 4 years, waitressing was NOT suited for me, lolol. Some of you might not know me as well as Sluggy does, so let's just say I have a problem with *ssholes, lolol. I worked as a cook in the restaurant, which I loved, but it was HARD work. Now I'm too old and lazy, lol. Notary work, as an independent contractor, suits me completely, and I LOVE it. When I worked in banking I was a notary for 5 years, with no idea that it would become a full time endeavor for me some day. So you never know where you experience and skills might lead you. ecoming a full time Notary was DEFINITELY thinking outside the box for me, but it works better for me than anything else. i set my own hours (ZERO at the moment, lolol) and it suits my need for something new every day. I think i might have undiagnosed ADD, lol.

I agree completely with your views on the ethical and moral implications of being employed, and making your way thru the world. I also firmly believe you can find a way to be a contributing member of society AND do something you're passionate about, no matter how "unimportant" that it might make you in the eyes of the world. I try to impress that on my kids. i want them to find some career that makes them HAPPY. "Working" and "happiness" and not mutually exclusive...

Cyndi

In a message dated 1/14/2007 12:13:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, arcure writes:

Be sure to also read Confessions of a Bottomfeeder (link at the bottom of that article.) I read it a while back, it's a fun read. :-)Cyndi*************OMG!lol I read about 75% of that page....my eyes started crossing before I got to page 2! I wouldn't go so far as to call it an 'essay' as they did....more of a semi-coherent, rambling, stream of consciensciousness, by someone who may or may not have a firm grasp on reality. But even crazy people can have good ideas it seems.lolI have always heard that one of the Best jobs to have if you want time/energy to pursue a passion that won't support you. is to work as a temp. You can work as much or as little as you like, depending on your financial/time needs. It's flexible and always available if you have a skill that agencies can use.Another one is waitstaffing. Working for tips doesn't sound like a great job, but if you break down the income per hours worked, waiting tables or bartending can be quite lucrative....if you can put up with having to take shit from people.lololSome of the tips/info was interesting. But when they went into the realm of 'sticking it to the man before the man sticks it to you' and crossing the line into illegal, unethical or immoral, that's when they lost me.I personally have a problem with people who, in order to live the life they want to, either directly or indirectly cheat/steal from others or expect someone else to support them or their lifestyle. There seems to be a high percentage of that kind of thinking around nowadays and personally, I have way too many relatives in my life now who feel that the world or any family member who has money, owes them some.I have 2 in-laws who don't work-their CHOICE-but all they do is piss & moan about how broke they are & are always looking to us for a handout. Both of them could go out and get a job tomorrow, but refuse to.DH has to be the financially responsible one for their mother w/Alzheimer's, even though we are the ones with the least amount of time/most things on our plate(kids/high pressure job/little free time, etc.). Why? Because if we turned over her finances to any of his 3 siblings, they would systematically siphon off her income for their needs, leaving her destitute within 6 months.We found evidence of them accepting money from her before she was diagnosed w/Dementia 4 yrs ago, when she was exhibiting full blown symptons of the disease. (From what the drs and we can extrapilate, she had been symptomatic for 3 yrs before then). They would have had to have been stupid not to have noticed she wasn't 'all there'! They kept this info from us, as we weren't nearby to see it, and let her slip further into the disease as long as they could get her to sign over cash to them. Ask my BIL about the $100K CD he cosigned with her in Jersey that the paperwork for, just 'disappeared' right before it was coming due. MIL didn't have it and BIL 'claims' he doesn't have it.Wanna bet that next time it comes due and hubby goes to use the affidavit to cash it in for her, that it's already been cashed in on the previous rollover date by BIL and he's already spent it all?We blew their little schemes outta the water and got POA and financial control of her assets 4 yrs. ago, when we moved her out here to PA. We set up separate everything for her finances & Never mix our money with hers so the family bottom feeders can't come after us and question our fuduciary responsibility to her.Sorry.....didn't mean to go on & on about that.....lololNobody gets a free ride through life. If you are able bodied you should work, period! Work provides money which you need, and even more important, it is good for your soul. Just look all those 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc. generation rich folks.....the kids of people who made a fortune(the Paris Hiltons, Nicole Richies, and others of that ilk). The ancestor who made the fortune had an amazing work ethic. Each subsequent generation either becomes a good steward of that wealth or not. They run the family business/oversee the family trust or charities or they just go off and fritter their entire life away playing and being a drain on the family & society. They never work or contributed to society in a positive way. At the end of their lives, will the world be a better place for them having been here? Will they be better people for having not worked or will their lives have been a waste of a carbon based life form.It's preferable to work at something you enjoy/have a passion for.....if you can't make a living at that, then work at something that gives you enough time to do what you enjoy but also gives you enough monetary resources to live a life where you don't have to have others support you, fully or partially.Money is Not evil, nor are most of the people who make a great deal of it evil. Money is a WONDERFUL TOOL if used properly that gives you options in life & FREEDOM(to live where you prefer, to work at what you love, have the free time w/friends or family or persue a passion, etc.). The most freeing thing IMHO is HAVING money. The more money you have available to you, the less crap you have to take off of other people.....the less you have to be indebted to others, work for an ahole boss, etc. Money gives you power over your own life, so that other people have less Power over You!That being said, the be all and end all shouldn't be the pursuit/accumulation of money. Pursue it so you can USE it to facilitate your life/lifestyle. Having money just for the sake of having it/hoarding it is not the goal.While money is a great tool, things are not. Things beyond what you truly need or can enjoy is clutter. Clutter is the anti-life force......it drags you down and imprisons you. So much clutter in your house makes it into a prison.I am only coming to this observation/way of thinking recently. I was an accumulator most of my life....I wasn't as bad as these people you hear about who get buried under piles of their own stuff and nobody finds them for 6 months and they are dead.lol But if left to my own devices & hadn't gotten my head out of my own ass, I might have ended up on the 6 o'clock news.Accumulating came from a place in me that needed stability....surrounding myself with things gave me that sense of stability. This all stems from my teenage years.....a time in my life when I was abandoned by my parents. But that's another story for another time....At least I didn't have to spend thousands of $s seeing a shrink for 10 yrs. to finally see this about myself. Self analysis....hmmmm.....maybe I AM a bottom feeder after all! ;-)sluggy

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