Codex is going to forbid organic foods and supplements

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

If you have not heard of Codex, you had better have a seat, because

you will NOT believe what it's designed to do.

 

Codex will forbid us to eat organic food and it will limit how much

nutrients that can be in a vitamin, AND it will mandate that harmful

chemicals, INCLUDING toxic pesticides, be included in our food.

 

Before you think I'm a lunatic, watch this video like it matters,

because it does.

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-

5266884912495233634 & q=Codex+Alimentarius

 

NOTE: YOu may have to copy and paste this into your address bar.

 

This not only makes me mad, it scares me terribly.

 

See what you think.

 

Kurt Gross

http://www.GrossInternational.com

[Guest guest]

I don't exactly understand what Codex exactly is and how it influences us???? Does Codex have some kind of legal jurisdiction in the USA? Please elaborate...I am confused.

 

--Celia--

 

 

-

Kurt Gross

RealSimple

Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:42 PM

[RealSimple] Codex is going to forbid organic foods and supplements

 

 

Hello,If you have not heard of Codex, you had better have a seat, because you will NOT believe what it's designed to do.Codex will forbid us to eat organic food and it will limit how much nutrients that can be in a vitamin, AND it will mandate that harmful chemicals, INCLUDING toxic pesticides, be included in our food.Before you think I'm a lunatic, watch this video like it matters, because it does.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634 & q=Codex+AlimentariusNOTE: YOu may have to copy and paste this into your address bar.This not only makes me mad, it scares me terribly. See what you think.

..

[Guest guest]

 

http://www.organicconsumers.org/Politics/update071505.cfm

 

You can read more about this here.....

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/6/2007 7:50:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurtray writes:

 

 

 

 

Hello,If you have not heard of Codex, you had better have a seat, because you will NOT believe what it's designed to do.Codex will forbid us to eat organic food and it will limit how much nutrients that can be in a vitamin, AND it will mandate that harmful chemicals, INCLUDING toxic pesticides, be included in our food.Before you think I'm a lunatic, watch this video like it matters, because it does.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634 & q=Codex+AlimentariusNOTE: YOu may have to copy and paste this into your address bar.This not only makes me mad, it scares me terribly. See what you think.Kurt Grosshttp://www.GrossInternational.com

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This is a good link too. I like Shirleys Wellness Cafe:

 

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/freedom.htm

 

Cyndi

 

 

In a message dated 1/6/2007 7:50:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurtray writes:

 

 

 

 

Hello,If you have not heard of Codex, you had better have a seat, because you will NOT believe what it's designed to do.Codex will forbid us to eat organic food and it will limit how much nutrients that can be in a vitamin, AND it will mandate that harmful chemicals, INCLUDING toxic pesticides, be included in our food.Before you think I'm a lunatic, watch this video like it matters, because it does.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5266884912495233634 & q=Codex+AlimentariusNOTE: YOu may have to copy and paste this into your address

 

 

[Guest guest]

Kurt, the video doesn't come up...

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/8/2007 11:08:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurtray writes:

 

 

 

 

Hi Ceclia,You say you're confused about what Codex is? That's because you haven't watched the video. It will answer your question better than I can.Don't only get an answer to your question from someone who has invested the time to learn about it.Watch the video yourself. There are other much more important questions that you need to be asking that you don't even know to ask now.Make sense? Just watch the video and you'll be glad you did.Kurt Grosshttp://www.GrossInternational.com/boomersRealSimple , "Celia Browne" <cbrowne wrote:>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Ceclia,

 

You say you're confused about what Codex is?

 

That's because you haven't watched the video. It will answer your

question better than I can.

 

Don't only get an answer to your question from someone who has

invested the time to learn about it.

 

Watch the video yourself. There are other much more important

questions that you need to be asking that you don't even know to ask

now.

 

Make sense?

 

Just watch the video and you'll be glad you did.

 

Kurt Gross

http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

 

RealSimple , " Celia Browne " <cbrowne wrote:

>

> I don't exactly understand what Codex exactly is and how it

influences us???? Does Codex have some kind of legal jurisdiction in

the USA? Please elaborate...I am confused.

>

> --Celia--

>

> -

> Kurt Gross

> RealSimple

> Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:42 PM

> [RealSimple] Codex is going to forbid organic foods and

supplements

>

>

> Hello,

>

> If you have not heard of Codex, you had better have a seat,

because

> you will NOT believe what it's designed to do.

>

> Codex will forbid us to eat organic food and it will limit how

much

> nutrients that can be in a vitamin, AND it will mandate that

harmful

> chemicals, INCLUDING toxic pesticides, be included in our food.

>

> Before you think I'm a lunatic, watch this video like it matters,

> because it does.

>

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-

> 5266884912495233634 & q=Codex+Alimentarius

>

> NOTE: YOu may have to copy and paste this into your address bar.

>

> This not only makes me mad, it scares me terribly.

>

> See what you think.

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

I don't have sound on my computer so I'd love it if someone would give me a brief overview of the video.Ellen LaFleche-Christian Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf Do You ?

[Guest guest]

Kurt...I *did* watch the video, had a lot of trouble following it, and it left me more confused then before.

 

I am pretty good at research and even 'googled' Codex and looked at a dozen sites, but none of it was explained well. Most confusing of all is how it legally applies to us in the USA if it is not a part of our government??? I am truly baffled, but oh, well. <shrugs shoulders> My boss is a history major and seems to know everything about government, so I'll ask him when he gets off medical...

 

--Celia--

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/8/2007 11:08:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurtray writes:

 

 

 

 

Hi Ceclia,You say you're confused about what Codex is? That's because you haven't watched the video. It will answer your question better than I can.Don't only get an answer to your question from someone who has invested the time to learn about it.Watch the video yourself. There are other much more important questions that you need to be asking that you don't even know to ask now.Make sense? Just watch the video and you'll be glad you did.Kurt Grosshttp://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

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[Guest guest]

The video didn't work for me for some reason. Cee, did you see the two links I sent yesterday? The Codex is established in Europe, the fear is that it will affect products coming into the US, not to mention possibly influencing the USA's future regulations, too.

 

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/8/2007 5:26:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cbrowne writes:

 

 

 

 

I wish I could help you out, Ellen, but it was a long, rambling, 4 plus minute minute video that was hard to follow without understanding what it's about to begin with, and I am totally confused. Maybe it's because I've never been a government or history fan, but it didn't make sense to me. Call me stupid, but I am drawing a blank as to what this organization is and how they have legal jurisdiction over us. I am hoping to find out soon...--Cee-- RealSimple , Ellen Christian <scentednights2002 wrote:>> I don't have sound on my computer so I'd love it if someone would give me a brief overview of the video.> > Ellen LaFleche-Christian> Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont> http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf> > > > > >

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi, Kurt!

 

I responded earlier but for some reason it didn't post, so I'll try

to do it again.

 

I *did* watch the video and was even more confused than before I

watched it. call me ignorant, but lacking background information, I

found it hard to follow. I even " googled " Codex and tried to find

out some more info about them, but it was STILL not clear. I am

awaiting the return of my boss who is out on medical as he has a

degree in history and government and he may be able to explain to me

what this is about...

 

--Cee--

 

 

RealSimple , " Kurt Gross " <kurtray wrote:

>

> Hi Ceclia,

>

> You say you're confused about what Codex is?

>

> That's because you haven't watched the video. It will answer your

> question better than I can.

>

> Don't only get an answer to your question from someone who has

> invested the time to learn about it.

>

> Watch the video yourself. There are other much more important

> questions that you need to be asking that you don't even know to

ask

> now.

>

> Make sense?

>

> Just watch the video and you'll be glad you did.

>

> Kurt Gross

> http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

[Guest guest]

I wish I could help you out, Ellen, but it was a long, rambling, 4 plus

minute minute video that was hard to follow without understanding what

it's about to begin with, and I am totally confused. Maybe it's

because I've never been a government or history fan, but it didn't make

sense to me. Call me stupid, but I am drawing a blank as to what this

organization is and how they have legal jurisdiction over us. I am

hoping to find out soon...

 

--Cee--

 

RealSimple , Ellen Christian

<scentednights2002 wrote:

>

> I don't have sound on my computer so I'd love it if someone would

give me a brief overview of the video.

>

> Ellen LaFleche-Christian

> Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont

> http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cyndi,

 

Here are three options to help you find the video on Codex that I

referred to:

 

1. Click on this link (or you may need to copy and paste it into

your Address bar):

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-

5266884912495233634 & q=codex & hl=en

 

2. Go to google.com and click on " Video " then do search on 'codex'

(without the quotes), then look for one titled " Nutricide -

Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs " It's by Dr. Rima

L. Laibow of Bauman College and her picture is there.

 

3. Go to Dr. Laibow's web site: www.healthfreedomusa.org (NOTE:

That's ORG, not com).

 

I'm curious as to your thoughts, and anyone elses, about this video!

 

Kurt Gross

Knoxville, TN

http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

 

 

RealSimple , cyndikrall wrote:

>

>

> Kurt, the video doesn't come up...

>

> Cyndi

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellen,

 

Without sound, you miss the message. Think of asking that of someone

who went to a movie or show.

 

You could visit Dr. Rima > Laibow's site at www.healthfreedomusa.org

(That's ORG, not com), but I recommend that you hear her talk on

someone's elses computer sometime.

 

Good luck,

 

Kurt Gross

Knoxville, TN

http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

 

RealSimple , Ellen Christian

<scentednights2002 wrote:

>

> I don't have sound on my computer so I'd love it if someone would

give me a brief overview of the video.

>

> Ellen LaFleche-Christian

> Lilac Hill Homestead / Vermont

> http://tinyurl.com/lpfaf

[Guest guest]

Cee,

 

Codex is short for " Codex Alimentarius " . It's an international food

standard organization.

 

You can read more about it at Dr. Rima L. Laibow's site:

www.healthfreedomusa.org (ORG, not com)

 

Kurt Gross

Knoxville, TN

http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

 

RealSimple , " lady_celia " <cbrowne wrote:

>

> Hi, Kurt!

>

> I responded earlier but for some reason it didn't post, so I'll try

> to do it again.

>

> I *did* watch the video and was even more confused than before I

> watched it. call me ignorant, but lacking background information,

I

> found it hard to follow. I even " googled " Codex and tried to find

> out some more info about them, but it was STILL not clear. I am

> awaiting the return of my boss who is out on medical as he has a

> degree in history and government and he may be able to explain to

me

> what this is about...

>

> --Cee--

[Guest guest]

Kurt,

 

The elite part of the humanity decided that there is too many people on this earth and there is a need to eliminate 2/3 of them.

Codex is only one of the tools, vaccines are another and drugs play a good part too. Those in between many others. The remaining 1/3 of population will be just slaves and will keep working to carry the elite.

 

You can be sure that "Dr." Rolf Grossklaus who supposedly "believes" that nutrition plays no role in human health, eats all natural, organic foods at home and does not allow cloned animals or irradiated foods on his dinner table. Codex is only for masses, not for the elite. This is what our world is coming to.

 

Barbara

 

 

Cee,Codex is short for "Codex Alimentarius". It's an international food standard organization.You can read more about it at Dr. Rima L. Laibow's site: www.healthfreedomusa.org (ORG, not com)Kurt GrossKnoxville, TN http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

 

You have the right perspective. The sad part is, I don't see a way

to turn the tide. The best response seems to be to step aside from

the runaway train and stay off the tracks or you'll get runover.

 

Thanks for the post,

 

Kurt Gross

http://www.GrossInternational.com/invite

 

RealSimple , " Barbara " <barbara3 wrote:

>

> Kurt,

>

> The elite part of the humanity decided that there is too many

people on this earth and there is a need to eliminate 2/3 of them.

> Codex is only one of the tools, vaccines are another and drugs play

a good part too. Those in between many others. The remaining 1/3 of

population will be just slaves and will keep working to carry the

elite.

>

> You can be sure that " Dr. " Rolf Grossklaus who

supposedly " believes " that nutrition plays no role in human health,

eats all natural, organic foods at home and does not allow cloned

animals or irradiated foods on his dinner table. Codex is only for

masses, not for the elite. This is what our world is coming to.

>

> Barbara

>

>

>

>

> Cee,

>

> Codex is short for " Codex Alimentarius " . It's an international

food

> standard organization.

>

> You can read more about it at Dr. Rima L. Laibow's site:

> www.healthfreedomusa.org (ORG, not com)

>

> Kurt Gross

> Knoxville, TN

> http://www.GrossInternational.com/boomers

>

[Guest guest]

Kurt,

 

Thanks for the www.healthfreedomusa.org link. What you said (and what I read) did not make sense to me, but that link finally clarified things and I now understand. In a nutshell, it may have begun as an altruistic, U.N backed organization to protect the world's food sources, but much like the U.N. itself, it's seriously corrupt. Now in the pockets of big pharmaceuticals companies (and other corporate interests that do NOT have the interest of the consumer at heart), the organization is rife with people who cater to those who line their pockets and so serve their interests instead of ours. (Of particular concern is Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, “nutrition is not relevant to health” plus limiting access to vitamins because they are toxic???) If industrialized nations are healthy from good nutrition and don't eat junk like Sara Lee...there will be less people eating their manufactured food products and buying their drugs when we get sick from it. Sad...REALLY sad.

 

I still didn't understand quite how it could impact us in the U.S. (surely our Congressmen and medical community would protect us...wouldn't they?), until I read that all of this is backed with U.N. sanctions! WHAT??? <big sigh> We do need to fight this...

 

--Celia--

 

 

 

 

 

> Cee,> > Codex is short for "Codex Alimentarius". It's an international food > standard organization.> > You can read more about it at Dr. Rima L. Laibow's site: > www.healthfreedomusa.org (ORG, not com)

..

[Guest guest]

I highly recommend all of Suzanne Somers books. I don't have Ageless, but I have many of her cookbooks and books on Bioidentical Hormones and Womens health. I recommend them all the time. She didn't "invent" bioidentical hormones, but she certainly has given voice to them.

 

Maybe I'm a bit cranky today, because I'm in a moderate amount of pain, but please don't tell anyone they need to stop thinking like a sixth grader. As I've said many times, I value EVERYONE'S opinions. A healthy amount of skepticism about anything-even what we read here-is never a bad thing. I know you don't mean to sound mean, because I know your heart is in the right place, and we DO need to be passionate about issues like this, just crank it down a notch, please. :-)Thanks!

Cyndi

 

In a message dated 1/16/2007 9:43:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kurtray writes:

 

 

 

 

Hi Celia,You ask if we need to fight this. The answer is not simple. Yes, it should be fought, but no we shouldn't because it's going through regardless of what we want.As paranoid as this sounds, the forces behind this are so big and powerful and secretive that it doesn't matter what you and I think. You're right on target when you say that there are organizations of people that have their interests ahead of ours. And they are powerful enough to keep the pressure up until they get their way.It won't be in one fell swoop either. It'll be gradualism. the changes will occur in small bits of which no one by itself will seem that big a deal.The ultimate goal is to keep them in control and the populace at large under control. Like I said, it sounds very paranoid, especially to the newcomer to this issue.Just educate yourself and watch. The more you learn, the more you'll see signs of this happening with each passing month and year. You said that "surely our Congressmen and medical community would protect us...wouldn't they?".You need to quit thinking like a sixth grader who believes our gov't and authorities will take care of us. They take care of themselves first, and we come in second. Sometimes I wonder if we even place, but we are in the mix, we're just not at the head of their concerns.I suggest that you read a book by Kevin Trudeau called "Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About". And be warned, the medical establishment, not your local doctor, he/she is fine, I'm talking about the behind-the-scenes AMA folks, they have tried to discredit Kevin because they are very scared that he's getting too close to the truth.There is a lot of smoke and mirrors about all this, and I'm certainly not an expert on it, but when I started learning about this, doubting the established medical community, the evidence is scary to say the least.If all this sounds too weird, that's ok, just do your own research into alternative healing and medicenes. The more you learn, the less weird this will seem.Suzanne Summers book "Ageless" is another book that will open your eyes, especially from a woman's perspective.Kurt Grosshttp://www.GrossInternational.com/invite RealSimple , "Celia Browne" <cbrowne wrote:>> Kurt,> > Thanks for the www.healthfreedomusa.org link. What you said (and what I read) did not make sense to me, but that link finally clarified things and I now understand. In a nutshell, it may have begun as an altruistic, U.N backed organization to protect the world's food sources, but much like the U.N. itself, it's seriously corrupt. Now in the pockets of big pharmaceuticals companies (and other corporate interests that do NOT have the interest of the consumer at heart), the organization is rife with people who cater to those who line their pockets and so serve their interests instead of ours. (Of particular concern is Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, "nutrition is not relevant to health" plus limiting access to vitamins because they are toxic???) If industrialized nations are healthy from good nutrition and don't eat junk like Sara Lee...there will be less people eating their manufactured food products and buying their drugs when we get sick from it. Sad...REALLY sad.> > I still didn't understand quite how it could impact us in the U.S. (surely our Congressmen and medical community would protect us...wouldn't they?), until I read that all of this is backed with U.N. sanctions! WHAT??? <big sigh> We do need to fight this...> > --Celia--> > > > > > Cee,> > > > Codex is short for "Codex Alimentarius". It's an international > food > > standard organization.> > > > You can read more about it at Dr. Rima L. Laibow's site: > > www.healthfreedomusa.org (ORG, not com)> > .>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Celia,

 

You ask if we need to fight this. The answer is not simple. Yes, it

should be fought, but no we shouldn't because it's going through

regardless of what we want.

 

As paranoid as this sounds, the forces behind this are so big and

powerful and secretive that it doesn't matter what you and I think.

 

You're right on target when you say that there are organizations of

people that have their interests ahead of ours. And they are

powerful enough to keep the pressure up until they get their way.

 

It won't be in one fell swoop either. It'll be gradualism. the

changes will occur in small bits of which no one by itself will seem

that big a deal.

 

The ultimate goal is to keep them in control and the populace at

large under control. Like I said, it sounds very paranoid,

especially to the newcomer to this issue.

 

Just educate yourself and watch. The more you learn, the more you'll

see signs of this happening with each passing month and year.

 

You said that " surely our Congressmen and medical community would

protect us...wouldn't they? " .

 

You need to quit thinking like a sixth grader who believes our gov't

and authorities will take care of us. They take care of themselves

first, and we come in second. Sometimes I wonder if we even place,

but we are in the mix, we're just not at the head of their concerns.

 

I suggest that you read a book by Kevin Trudeau called " Natural Cures

They Don't Want You To Know About " . And be warned, the medical

establishment, not your local doctor, he/she is fine, I'm talking

about the behind-the-scenes AMA folks, they have tried to discredit

Kevin because they are very scared that he's getting too close to the

truth.

 

There is a lot of smoke and mirrors about all this, and I'm certainly

not an expert on it, but when I started learning about this, doubting

the established medical community, the evidence is scary to say the

least.

 

If all this sounds too weird, that's ok, just do your own research

into alternative healing and medicenes. The more you learn, the less

weird this will seem.

 

Suzanne Summers book " Ageless " is another book that will open your

eyes, especially from a woman's perspective.

 

Kurt Gross

http://www.GrossInternational.com/invite

 

RealSimple , " Celia Browne " <cbrowne wrote:

>

> Kurt,

>

> Thanks for the www.healthfreedomusa.org link. What you said (and

what I read) did not make sense to me, but that link finally

clarified things and I now understand. In a nutshell, it may have

begun as an altruistic, U.N backed organization to protect the

world's food sources, but much like the U.N. itself, it's seriously

corrupt. Now in the pockets of big pharmaceuticals companies (and

other corporate interests that do NOT have the interest of the

consumer at heart), the organization is rife with people who cater to

those who line their pockets and so serve their interests instead of

ours. (Of particular concern is Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, " nutrition is

not relevant to health " plus limiting access to vitamins because they

are toxic???) If industrialized nations are healthy from good

nutrition and don't eat junk like Sara Lee...there will be less

people eating their manufactured food products and buying their drugs

when we get sick from it. Sad...REALLY sad.

>

> I still didn't understand quite how it could impact us in the U.S.

(surely our Congressmen and medical community would protect

us...wouldn't they?), until I read that all of this is backed with

U.N. sanctions! WHAT??? <big sigh> We do need to fight this...

>

> --Celia--

>

>

>

>

> > Cee,

> >

> > Codex is short for " Codex Alimentarius " . It's an international

> food

> > standard organization.

> >

> > You can read more about it at Dr. Rima L. Laibow's site:

> > www.healthfreedomusa.org (ORG, not com)

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

Suzanne Somers' books are AWESOME! I admire her so much and I thank her from the bottom of my heart for speaking out about bio-identical hormones instead of that cancer-causing pharmaceutical crap! It helped me immensely when I was going through it, and I would still be using them today (to treat other post-menopausal symptoms) if it were not for other risk factors I have.

 

As for the comment about me thinking like a 6th grader...I got a chuckle out of it! I was being facetious so I didn't take it personally, and besides...I probably need to tone it down a notch or two myself, heehee.

 

Regarding *you* being cranky...oh, heck! If anyone's got a right to feel cranky, Cyndi, it's YOU!!! <big smiles>

 

xxxooo

 

~Cee~

 

 

 

 

 

-

cyndikrall

RealSimple

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:05 PM

Re: [RealSimple] Re: Codex is going to forbid organic foods and supplements

 

 

 

 

I highly recommend all of Suzanne Somers books. I don't have Ageless, but I have many of her cookbooks and books on Bioidentical Hormones and Womens health. I recommend them all the time. She didn't "invent" bioidentical hormones, but she certainly has given voice to them.

 

Maybe I'm a bit cranky today, because I'm in a moderate amount of pain, but please don't tell anyone they need to stop thinking like a sixth grader. As I've said many times, I value EVERYONE'S opinions. A healthy amount of skepticism about anything-even what we read here-is never a bad thing. I know you don't mean to sound mean, because I know your heart is in the right place, and we DO need to be passionate about issues like this, just crank it down a notch, please. :-)Thanks!

Cyndi

 

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[Guest guest]

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