[!! SPAM] A warning about liquid zeolite

[Guest guest]

Tony,

 

In defence of NCD I will say that my personal use of it literally saved

my life when I was suffering from mercury poisoning. After months of

attempted detoxing I decided to try NCD and believe me when I tell you I

felt better in 5 days and completely well in three weeks after trying for

months to get rid of the mercury in my system. It worked for me and I

certainly don't feel any the worse for it. I feel normal again, something I

didn't feel for months before its use.

 

Bob

-

" Tony "

<oleander soup >

Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:17 PM

[!! SPAM] A warning about liquid zeolite

 

 

> It seems that our good Dr Laphier was quite correct in her

> reservations about liquid zeolite, or certainly not alone regarding

> the red flags. I received this via email today (thanks to the sender,

> btw, I know he is reading this):

>

> Potential Danger - Don't Eat " Liquid Zeolite! "

>

> The newest multi-level-marketing products called " Liquid Zeolite " , the

> most prominent of which is Natural Cellular Defense (NCD), are being

> promoted on the Internet, and people are signing up in droves all over

> the world to sell them. It is claimed that NCD, for instance, will

> " kill epithelial cancer cells, 100% kill rate, detoxify heavy metals

> and all toxins easily, and [it] disables viral replication by

> capturing viral components within it's [sic] cage like structure. " The

> company that sells NCD, Waiora, says in its publications that there is

> a study that supposedly demonstrates that the cancers of

> terminally-ill patients went into remission when they consumed

> zeolites. No such study ever happened. There is no documentation, and

> no peer reviewed articles were ever published anywhere.

>

> Clinoptilite, the zeolite crystal from which these products are made,

> has a long history of use as a powder, similar to clay, for biological

> detoxification and as an additive to animal feed. (It is also used in

> industrial detoxification and filtering systems). It is normally

> insoluble in stomach and bile acids, so that it is eliminated in feces

> along with the toxins that it has adsorbed.

>

> The manufacturers of Natural Cellular Defense and other zeolite

> liquids refer to this research on zeolite powder, claiming that their

> liquefied products are completely safe and are promoting them as

> something that people should take to prevent and treat disease. Rik

> Deitsch, one of the principals of the company that promotes NCD, has

> written much about his product, including a diatribe against me for my

> warnings about the product. But there are many unanswered questions.

>

> These " Liquid Zeolite " products contain zeolite that is now in

> solution. Clinoptilite zeolite is an aluminum-based mineral that may

> also contain heavy metals (mercury, lead, and/or cadmium). This would

> not be a problem if the products were powdered zeolite, as mentioned

> above, because the zeolite is normally insoluble and any contaminants

> are kept trapped in the zeolite mineral structure. But once zeolite is

> liquefied, it means that these liquid products must contain soluble

> aluminum and possibly soluble heavy metals as well. These soluble

> minerals can enter the bloodstream, and they are toxic to the human body.

>

> The manufacturers of NCD, for instance, do not specify where their

> mineral crystals come from or how they are processed, nor whether

> tests have been done to determine whether their product is lead,

> aluminum, and mercury free. The large body of research supporting

> zeolite's use as a detoxification agent do not make any reference to a

> liquified product.

>

> In relation to any health product this is a red flag. It is precisely

> this crucial piece of information that raises unanswered questions

> about its safety:

>

> *

>

> What do the soluble minerals in NCD do inside the cell and

> inter-cellular spaces?

> *

>

> What reactions do they mediate or interfere with?

> *

>

> Do they stay inside the cell and become part of it?

> *

>

> Do they leave the cell and intercellular spaces? Are they excreted?

> *

>

> How do they react with each of the thousands of cellular

> bio-chemicals, hormones, neurotransmitters, and essential fatty acids?

> *

>

> How do they get into the cell? Do they enter through a protein

> channel, or through the cell membrane?

> *

>

> What do they do to developing cells or tissue?

> *

>

> If they can enter cells from the bloodstream, then they can

> likely enter into the cerebrospinal fluid. If so, what do they do to

> the neural membrane or to developing brain cells?

> *

>

> Do they affect the operation of the cell organelles (components

> of the human cell), and, if so, how?

> *

>

> Do they enter into or affect the nuclear envelope (that is, does

> it affect DNA and RNA)?

> *

>

> Do they enter or affect the mitochondria, our energy subsystem?

> *

>

> Is the immune system aware of the presence of the minerals? Do

> they go into overdrive, eventually leading to allergy, MCS, or

> auto-immune disease?

>

> These unanswered questions suggest that we simply do not know very

> much about this material, and there are warning signs that we should

> heed. Powdered zeolite products appear to be safe as intestinal

> detoxification agents, but there is no reason to believe this is true

> for NCD and the other zeolite liquids.

>

> It is unfortunate that some of the foremost natural health activists,

> such as Mike Adams, have been apparently convinced of the safety and

> efficacy of liquified zeolite based on research papers on powdered

> zeolite.

>

> There is a critical difference between these liquid mineral products

> and food-derived substances, such as dietary supplements. Humans have

> been eating food and food extracts for as long as we have been on the

> earth, hundreds of thousands of years.

>

> In contrast, the people promoting Liquid Zeolites are subjecting the

> entire world's population to a potentially toxic substance that has no

> known therapeutic value, selling their products via a worldwide

> multi-level marketing organization, preying upon desperate, sick people.

>

> Please take my advice: For chronic disease, stay with food-based

> natural therapies, such as those developed by well-known researchers

> and physicians such as Dr. Matthias Rath and Dr. Hugh Riordan. These

> have been used successfully by thousands of people and proven safe.

>

> If you do decide to use a zeolite product for detoxification, get a

> powdered product, not a liquid.

>

> If you have been taking a liquid zeolite product such as NCD, I

> suggest you stop immediately, but save the leftover product: if you

> realize that you have suffered toxic trauma as a result of ingesting

> it, sue your distributor for bodily injury. Waiora is an LLC (Limited

> Liability Corporation), which means that you can never collect a

> settlement of a lawsuit, but must pay taxes on it, so that in actual

> practice they are rarely or never actually sued.

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tony,

 

If I may, one more thing as it pertains to NCD. I gave it to a cat

diagnosed with bowel cancer along with colloidal silver. As of this

writing, 6 months after the initial diagnosis, the cat is in complete

remission to the surprise of her vet and her owner.

 

Bob

-

" Tony "

<oleander soup >

Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:17 PM

[!! SPAM] A warning about liquid zeolite

 

 

> It seems that our good Dr Laphier was quite correct in her

> reservations about liquid zeolite, or certainly not alone regarding

> the red flags. I received this via email today (thanks to the sender,

> btw, I know he is reading this):

>

> Potential Danger - Don't Eat " Liquid Zeolite! "

>

> The newest multi-level-marketing products called " Liquid Zeolite " , the

> most prominent of which is Natural Cellular Defense (NCD), are being

> promoted on the Internet, and people are signing up in droves all over

> the world to sell them. It is claimed that NCD, for instance, will

> " kill epithelial cancer cells, 100% kill rate, detoxify heavy metals

> and all toxins easily, and [it] disables viral replication by

> capturing viral components within it's [sic] cage like structure. " The

> company that sells NCD, Waiora, says in its publications that there is

> a study that supposedly demonstrates that the cancers of

> terminally-ill patients went into remission when they consumed

> zeolites. No such study ever happened. There is no documentation, and

> no peer reviewed articles were ever published anywhere.

>

> Clinoptilite, the zeolite crystal from which these products are made,

> has a long history of use as a powder, similar to clay, for biological

> detoxification and as an additive to animal feed. (It is also used in

> industrial detoxification and filtering systems). It is normally

> insoluble in stomach and bile acids, so that it is eliminated in feces

> along with the toxins that it has adsorbed.

>

> The manufacturers of Natural Cellular Defense and other zeolite

> liquids refer to this research on zeolite powder, claiming that their

> liquefied products are completely safe and are promoting them as

> something that people should take to prevent and treat disease. Rik

> Deitsch, one of the principals of the company that promotes NCD, has

> written much about his product, including a diatribe against me for my

> warnings about the product. But there are many unanswered questions.

>

> These " Liquid Zeolite " products contain zeolite that is now in

> solution. Clinoptilite zeolite is an aluminum-based mineral that may

> also contain heavy metals (mercury, lead, and/or cadmium). This would

> not be a problem if the products were powdered zeolite, as mentioned

> above, because the zeolite is normally insoluble and any contaminants

> are kept trapped in the zeolite mineral structure. But once zeolite is

> liquefied, it means that these liquid products must contain soluble

> aluminum and possibly soluble heavy metals as well. These soluble

> minerals can enter the bloodstream, and they are toxic to the human body.

>

> The manufacturers of NCD, for instance, do not specify where their

> mineral crystals come from or how they are processed, nor whether

> tests have been done to determine whether their product is lead,

> aluminum, and mercury free. The large body of research supporting

> zeolite's use as a detoxification agent do not make any reference to a

> liquified product.

>

> In relation to any health product this is a red flag. It is precisely

> this crucial piece of information that raises unanswered questions

> about its safety:

>

> *

>

> What do the soluble minerals in NCD do inside the cell and

> inter-cellular spaces?

> *

>

> What reactions do they mediate or interfere with?

> *

>

> Do they stay inside the cell and become part of it?

> *

>

> Do they leave the cell and intercellular spaces? Are they excreted?

> *

>

> How do they react with each of the thousands of cellular

> bio-chemicals, hormones, neurotransmitters, and essential fatty acids?

> *

>

> How do they get into the cell? Do they enter through a protein

> channel, or through the cell membrane?

> *

>

> What do they do to developing cells or tissue?

> *

>

> If they can enter cells from the bloodstream, then they can

> likely enter into the cerebrospinal fluid. If so, what do they do to

> the neural membrane or to developing brain cells?

> *

>

> Do they affect the operation of the cell organelles (components

> of the human cell), and, if so, how?

> *

>

> Do they enter into or affect the nuclear envelope (that is, does

> it affect DNA and RNA)?

> *

>

> Do they enter or affect the mitochondria, our energy subsystem?

> *

>

> Is the immune system aware of the presence of the minerals? Do

> they go into overdrive, eventually leading to allergy, MCS, or

> auto-immune disease?

>

> These unanswered questions suggest that we simply do not know very

> much about this material, and there are warning signs that we should

> heed. Powdered zeolite products appear to be safe as intestinal

> detoxification agents, but there is no reason to believe this is true

> for NCD and the other zeolite liquids.

>

> It is unfortunate that some of the foremost natural health activists,

> such as Mike Adams, have been apparently convinced of the safety and

> efficacy of liquified zeolite based on research papers on powdered

> zeolite.

>

> There is a critical difference between these liquid mineral products

> and food-derived substances, such as dietary supplements. Humans have

> been eating food and food extracts for as long as we have been on the

> earth, hundreds of thousands of years.

>

> In contrast, the people promoting Liquid Zeolites are subjecting the

> entire world's population to a potentially toxic substance that has no

> known therapeutic value, selling their products via a worldwide

> multi-level marketing organization, preying upon desperate, sick people.

>

> Please take my advice: For chronic disease, stay with food-based

> natural therapies, such as those developed by well-known researchers

> and physicians such as Dr. Matthias Rath and Dr. Hugh Riordan. These

> have been used successfully by thousands of people and proven safe.

>

> If you do decide to use a zeolite product for detoxification, get a

> powdered product, not a liquid.

>

> If you have been taking a liquid zeolite product such as NCD, I

> suggest you stop immediately, but save the leftover product: if you

> realize that you have suffered toxic trauma as a result of ingesting

> it, sue your distributor for bodily injury. Waiora is an LLC (Limited

> Liability Corporation), which means that you can never collect a

> settlement of a lawsuit, but must pay taxes on it, so that in actual

> practice they are rarely or never actually sued.

>

>

> ---

>

>