Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Tony wrote: > Soy and canola are two of the greatest evils, along with MSG, in our > food supply. Like MSG, they are in virtually everything (try finding > a salad dressing, mayonnaise or butter type spread that does not > contain one or both). Also like MSG and mainstream medical drugs, > they have billions of dollars backing them - and we know what happens > in this country when it comes to profits versus health. > > I'm so glad I've joined this group. I keep learning things all the time. Here I was choosing canola oil because it's supposed to be better for you than veggie and corn oils. I just read about canola oil at http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=772786 so now I need to know which oils we should be using. What about olive oil? Cyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Hi Cyndi, It is amazing how they promote Canola Oil as the healthy oil to choose. Actually, it is one of the worst things for your system and promotes disease. The only two oils that I use are olive oil and flaxseed oil. Nothing else. Hugs, oleander soup , cyndiann9 <cyndiann9 wrote: > > Tony wrote: > > > Soy and canola are two of the greatest evils, along with MSG, in our > > food supply. Like MSG, they are in virtually everything (try finding > > a salad dressing, mayonnaise or butter type spread that does not > > contain one or both). Also like MSG and mainstream medical drugs, > > they have billions of dollars backing them - and we know what happens > > in this country when it comes to profits versus health. > > > > > > I'm so glad I've joined this group. I keep learning things all the time. > Here I was choosing canola oil because it's supposed to be better for > you than veggie and corn oils. I just read about canola oil at > http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=772786 > > so now I need to know which oils we should be using. What about olive oil? > > Cyndi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 , Yes, glad to hear it, those are the only 2 oils I use as well. Nada else. Tammatha - May oleander soup Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:07 PM Re: No canola? Hi Cyndi,It is amazing how they promote Canola Oil as the healthy oil to choose. Actually, it is one of the worst things for your system and promotes disease.The only two oils that I use are olive oil and flaxseed oil. Nothing else.Hugs,oleander soup , cyndiann9 <cyndiann9 wrote:>> Tony wrote:> > > Soy and canola are two of the greatest evils, along with MSG, in our> > food supply. Like MSG, they are in virtually everything (try finding> > a salad dressing, mayonnaise or butter type spread that does not> > contain one or both). Also like MSG and mainstream medical drugs,> > they have billions of dollars backing them - and we know what happens> > in this country when it comes to profits versus health.> > > > Tony> > I'm so glad I've joined this group. I keep learning things all the time. > Here I was choosing canola oil because it's supposed to be better for > you than veggie and corn oils. I just read about canola oil at> http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=772786> > so now I need to know which oils we should be using. What about olive oil?> > Cyndi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Hi Cyndi, Olive oil is fine. Coconut oil is the healthiest oil. I'm sure others will give you where to buy. I have bought mine from Tropical Traditions. Wilderness Family Naturals probably has good quality also. Nonie so now I need to know which oils we should be using. What about olive oil?Cyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Add unrefined and extra virgin coconut oil to the list of excellent oils for cooking. Just don't cook it over 350. Canola means Canadian oil -- the biggest GMO product out there. Whole Foods uses it in all of their cooked products. Suz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Whole Foods Stores should be Whole (Lot of Money Pretending to be Health) Foods Stores. The majority of their products, produce and meat are not organic. oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: > > Suz, > > I have formally complained to Whole Foods a few times. They do put canola oil in all of their prepared foods... it's just abomidable. I think they must have Canadian backing of some sort. Why else would they choose to put this garbage in their food? Just boggles the mind really. > > Bob > - > suz stapler > oleander soup > Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:16 PM > [!! SPAM] Re: No canola? > > > Add unrefined and extra virgin coconut oil to the list of excellent oils for cooking. Just don't cook it over 350. > > Canola means Canadian oil -- the biggest GMO product out there. Whole Foods uses it in all of their cooked products. > > Suz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Whole paycheck is what we call it here, probably where everyone else is too. Tammatha - Tony oleander soup Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:39 PM Re: No canola? Whole Foods Stores should be Whole (Lot of Money Pretending to beHealth) Foods Stores. The majority of their products, produce andmeat are not organic.Tonyoleander soup , "bbanever" <bbanever wrote:>> Suz,> > I have formally complained to Whole Foods a few times. They doput canola oil in all of their prepared foods... it's just abomidable.I think they must have Canadian backing of some sort. Why else wouldthey choose to put this garbage in their food? Just boggles the mindreally.> > Bob> - > suz stapler > oleander soup > Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:16 PM> [!! SPAM] Re: No canola?> > > Add unrefined and extra virgin coconut oil to the list ofexcellent oils for cooking. Just don't cook it over 350.> > Canola means Canadian oil -- the biggest GMO product out there. Whole Foods uses it in all of their cooked products.> > Suz> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Suz, EXTRA virgin coconut oil is hype. There is only virgin coconut oil. Virgin coconut oil is unrefined. EXTRA is only a marketing ploy copying the Extra Olive Oil. RBD coconut oil stands for refined, bleached and deodorized. Some use hexane and then steam, but the thing is residues can be left behind. You are right, for ingesting/cooking get the virgin coconut oil or the expeller pressed coconut oil made out of FRESH coconut meat, not the sun dried coconut meat. My supplier is wildernessfamilynaturals.com. I know her sources of vco from the Philippines and expeller pressed oil and they are excellent. WFN supplies me both centrifuged virgin coconut oil and expeller pressed from FRESH copra coconut oils. Coconut oil can take medium-high heat so it is excellent for cooking. Do not let the oil turn yellow from too much heat. Also this oil can be reused. Yes, it is safe to reuse it, just filter and separate containers for seafood, beef, chicken, and pork oilf. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Red Palm oil i heard is also good also contains antioxidants. But i use coconut oil. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 The healthiest oils to use are: Cooking Oils: unrefined, expeller-pressed virgin coconut oil (can use for frying as it has no flavor – hopefully one is not “frying” anything very much), virgin coconut oil (has a coconut flavor), organic hempseed oil, tea oil (NOT tea tree), Organic Macadamia Oil (can be used for sautéing – smoke point is 330°) Oils to use unheated: extra-virgin and cold-pressed olive, organic flaxseed Polyunsaturated fats (vegetable oils like corn, soy, safflower, sunflower and canola) are ones that are not healthy for the body. They are omega-6 oils and very susceptible to heat damage because of all the double bonds they contain. Many people believe that frying creates trans-fats but this is not the biggest concern. True, some trans-fats are created, but shouldn’t be too worrisome. There are many more toxic chemicals produced by frying omega-6 oils than trans-fats. Frying will destroy the antioxidants in oils and thus oxidizes them. Using the oils mentioned above contribute to the overabundance of omega-6 fats in the diet, thus creating an imbalance of the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio. Too much omega-6 fats in the diet can contribute to health concerns. Coconut oil is my favorite. It can be used instead of butter, olive oil, vegetable oil, margarine, or any other type of oil called for in recipes. If I don’t want the coconut taste, I used the unrefined, expeller-pressed. Instead of butter or oil for potatoes, bread, vegetables, etc. Dr. Budwig’s Oleolux recipe is WONDERFUL and VERY healthy!! The recipe is as follows: Oleolux Recipe 8.8-ounces virgin coconut oil4.4-ounces organic Flax Seed Oil1 organic onion 10 organic garlic cloves (peeled and pressed through garlic press) Preparation: Cut 1 medium sized onion in half and brown slightly in 8.8-ounces of heated coconut oil. Cook for approximately 15 minutes. Add 10 garlic cloves and heat for additional 3 minutes only. Strain the fat through a sieve into 4.4-ounces of Flax Seed Oil (previously chilled for ½ hour in the freezer). Keep this mixture refrigerated and bring to the table in small portions as required. Note: As a rule, Flax Oil and Oleolux should never be heated. If you prepare sauces according to the Budwig recipes, the sensitive, unsaturated fatty acids of Flax Oil are somewhat protected by the sulfhydryl group of spices (e.g.: pepper). Be careful not to heat the Oleolux more than one minute. Be Well Loretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Tony, We don't have much of a choice here in So.Cal. It's Whole Foods or not much else in the way of organic. Mothers Markets are great, but the closest one is 40 miles away. Whole Foods has enough organic produce/poultry to satisfy most. True not everything is organic, but enough to matter. I stay away from their prepared foods and salad bar due to the canola oil. I can't complain really, I'm thankful Whole Foods is here, otherwise it'd be Ralphs or some other supermarket chain poisoning me on a daily basis. Bob - " Tony " <oleander soup > Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:39 PM Re: No canola? > Whole Foods Stores should be Whole (Lot of Money Pretending to be > Health) Foods Stores. The majority of their products, produce and > meat are not organic. > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: >> >> Suz, >> >> I have formally complained to Whole Foods a few times. They do > put canola oil in all of their prepared foods... it's just abomidable. > I think they must have Canadian backing of some sort. Why else would > they choose to put this garbage in their food? Just boggles the mind > really. >> >> Bob >> - >> suz stapler >> oleander soup >> Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:16 PM >> [!! SPAM] Re: No canola? >> >> >> Add unrefined and extra virgin coconut oil to the list of > excellent oils for cooking. Just don't cook it over 350. >> >> Canola means Canadian oil -- the biggest GMO product out there. > Whole Foods uses it in all of their cooked products. >> >> Suz >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Right on, right on, right on. In a message dated 5/29/2008 8:21:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drlanphier writes: The healthiest oils to use are:Cooking Oils: unrefined, expeller-pressed virgin coconut oil (can use for frying as it has no flavor – hopefully one is not “frying†anything very much), virgin coconut oil (has a coconut flavor), organic hempseed oil, tea oil (NOT tea tree), Organic Macadamia Oil (can be used for sautéing – smoke point is 330°)Oils to use unheated: extra-virgin and cold-pressed olive, organic flaxseed Polyunsaturated fats (vegetable oils like corn, soy, safflower, sunflower and canola) are ones that are not healthy for the body. They are omega-6 oils and very susceptible to heat damage because of all the double bonds they contain. Many people believe that frying creates trans-fats but this is not the biggest concern. True, some trans-fats are created, but shouldn’t be too worrisome. There are many more toxic chemicals produced by frying omega-6 oils than trans-fats. Frying will destroy the antioxidants in oils and thus oxidizes them. Using the oils mentioned above contribute to the overabundance of omega-6 fats in the diet, thus creating an imbalance of the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio. Too much omega-6 fats in the diet can contribute to health concerns. Coconut oil is my favorite. It can be used instead of butter, olive oil, vegetable oil, margarine, or any other type of oil called for in recipes. If I don’t want the coconut taste, I used the unrefined, expeller-pressed.Instead of butter or oil for potatoes, bread, vegetables, etc. Dr. Budwig’s Oleolux recipe is WONDERFUL and VERY healthy!! The recipe is as follows: Oleolux Recipe 8.8-ounces virgin coconut oil4.4-ounces organic Flax Seed Oil1 organic onion 10 organic garlic cloves (peeled and pressed through garlic press) Preparation: Cut 1 medium sized onion in half and brown slightly in 8.8-ounces of heated coconut oil. Cook for approximately 15 minutes. Add 10 garlic cloves and heat for additional 3 minutes only. Strain the fat through a sieve into 4.4-ounces of Flax Seed Oil (previously chilled for ½ hour in the freezer). Keep this mixture refrigerated and bring to the table in small portions as required. Note: As a rule, Flax Oil and Oleolux should never be heated. If you prepare sauces according to the Budwig recipes, the sensitive, unsaturated fatty acids of Flax Oil are somewhat protected by the sulfhydryl group of spices (e.g.: pepper). Be careful not to heat the Oleolux more than one minute. Be Well Loretta Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 We first go to farmers' market, where local USDA certified organic and some sustainable (some say better than organic, using old fashioned organic farming) produce are sold. Mostly vegetables, some but not a lot of fruits are sold on different tents. Some homemade foods are also present as well as organic meat. Then we go to WholeFoods or HEB Central Market to purchase what we could not find at the farmers' market. Pretty soon HEB Central Market will give WholeFoods a run for its money. The Central Market sells very good looking fresh organic produce, specially its organic herbs. I suggest go to your local farmers' market. Do a search on "farmers' organic markets" follow the prompts. We are in Austin, Texas, and there are still farms around here that do sustainable farming. I am sure every area has some kind of farmers' market. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 HI, I also recommend hemp seed oil. It has all the THCs removed by the way. It has a better balance of fatty acids than flax seed, and it tastes better. Dr. Goebel May <luellamay129 wrote: Hi Cyndi,It is amazing how they promote Canola Oil as the healthy oil to choose. Actually, it is one of the worst things for your system and promotes disease.The only two oils that I use are olive oil and flaxseed oil. Nothing else.Hugs,oleander soup , cyndiann9 <cyndiann9 wrote:>> Tony wrote:> > > Soy and canola are two of the greatest evils, along with MSG, in our> > food supply. Like MSG, they are in virtually everything (try finding> > a salad dressing, mayonnaise or butter type spread that does not> > contain one or both). Also like MSG and mainstream medical drugs,> > they have billions of dollars backing them - and we know what happens> > in this country when it comes to profits versus health.> > > > Tony> > I'm so glad I've joined this group. I keep learning things all the time. > Here I was choosing canola oil because it's supposed to be better for > you than veggie and corn oils. I just read about canola oil at> http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=772786> > so now I need to know which oils we should be using. What about olive oil?> > Cyndi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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