Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 The only real controversy comes from those who do not have the knowledge of technology to make the true colloidal silver. In actuality, colloidal silver converts to ionic silver upon contact and it is always ionic silver that actually is responsible for the actions against pathogens. The problem comes when silver is taken for anything internally. Once ionic silver reaches the stomach, it is neutralized and destroyed by stomach acid (hydrochloric acid). Ionic silver makers have put up a lot of bogus information and gimmicks to try to show that they are superior, but the are totally misleading and self serving. What I know is this: the colloidal silver I refer to has been successful against cancers, MS, HIV, staph, MRSA, candida, Crohn's, Lymes and many other conditions. I have not seen the same with ANY purely or mostly ionic silver. oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: > > Tony, > > I know this is off topic, but there is controversy as to which form of > silver, ionic or paticulate, is the most beneficial. I believe silver ions > are positively charged... which means they are attracted to negatively > charged particles (virus, bacteria, fungus). This may be more > therapeutically beneficial than particulate silver, although I'm not sure > how they are charged. > > Bob > - > " Tony " > <oleander soup > > Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:17 AM > [!! SPAM] Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > > > > The major reason I do not make my own silver is that, as I type this, > > I am sitting less than fifteen feet away (a floor above) the lab that > > makes some of the best colloidal silver on the planet and get all I > > want for free (sounds like quite a deal, huh? actually Utopia Silver > > owner Ben Taylor gives his silver away free to anyone who comes to his > > location to visit, and sells all his supplements at cost to visitors > > as well. The locals love him!). > > > > If I lived elsewhere, and someday I likely will, I will keep a good > > supply of Utopia Silver's finest on hand just in case something really > > bad comes along, and also purchase a machine such as the Silver Puppy > > (my favorite) or perhaps the Silver Edge or Silver Gen machines to > > make bulk silver for all the many uses it has. > > > > The difference is that Utopia Silver's true colloidal silver has about > > 85% colloidal silver and 15% ionic silver and has particle sizes as > > small as .65 nanometer (with a mean average of about 2 nanometers). > > Such a tiny particle size means that for any given PPM concentration, > > you get many, many more times the surface area of silver. > > > > The best of the home machines turn out silver that is no more than 15% > > colloidal silver and 85% ionic silver - which is still quite useful > > for most needs. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: > >> > >> Tony, what is your opinion about home made colloidal silver with > > one of the smaller generates purchased from one of the members of the > > silver list? I think it's called Silver Puppy... > >> > >> And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or > > the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide > > which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever > > else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Angel > >> > >> > >> > >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > >> Posted by: " Tony " @ > >> Sat May 24, 2008 12:08 am (PDT) > >> I am not familiar with any sites that deal with MS, but I can tell you > >> what will very likely take care of it for your friend: large amounts > >> of colloidal silver such as that made by our friend the Utopia Silver > >> Supplement Company. > >> > >> Superior true colloidal silver is amazing - it is deadly to over 650 > >> different pathogens and has been used successfully for MRSA, Lymes, > >> Cancer, Crohns and yes, Multiple Sclerosis. And much, much more. > >> > >> Do a google search for " Multiple Sclerosis and colloidal silver " and > >> you will see that I mean. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Tony, What is the ppm of the Utopia Silver you use? Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Tony, Some say it is best to swish the ionic/colloidal silver in the mouth for a few minutes before swallowing... that way the ions get absorbed through the mucous membranes in the mouth before reaching the stomach. In my previous post the infection I was referring to was a sinus infection which might be considered a topical or external infection. I tried washing my sinus out with pure colloidal silver to no avail... when I switched to ionic it worked like a charm. So there may be truth to taking colloidal for internal disorders, assuming the do change to the ionic form once absorbed. Bob - " Tony " <oleander soup > Monday, June 02, 2008 3:37 PM [!! SPAM] Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > The best overall silver is colloidal silver. Ionic silver is fine when > used topically, but is far less effective internally. > > ALL silver action against microbes comes from ionic silver. Colloidal > silver releases ionic silver upon contact with microbes. The > advantage is that ionic silver gets mostly destroyed by hydrochloric > acid in the stomach, whereas colloidal silver is better able to pass > on to the internal areas and microbes needing treatment. Some of the > literature and groups say differently - but that is because they all > have inferior products they have to justify. > > > > oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote: >> >> But Tony, now I'm confused. The people over on the silver list > (where the sellers of the silver puppy and the other one, can't think > of its name right now....all hang out) they say that calling the > solution made by these generators " colloidal silver " is actually > erroneous because these generators actually make ionic silver! I've > seen references to this many times. I saw you recommending these > generators and then I saw you also recommending " colloidal " silver > over ionic in the email below. >> >> Now I'm confused...it seems incongruent. Doesn't it? Would you > please clarify? >> >> Thanks, >> Angel >> >> >> >> [!! SPAM] Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> Posted by: " Tony " >> Sun May 25, 2008 12:43 pm (PDT) >> The only real controversy comes from those who do not have the >> knowledge of technology to make the true colloidal silver. In >> actuality, colloidal silver converts to ionic silver upon contact and >> it is always ionic silver that actually is responsible for the actions >> against pathogens. The problem comes when silver is taken for >> anything internally. Once ionic silver reaches the stomach, it is >> neutralized and destroyed by stomach acid (hydrochloric acid). Ionic >> silver makers have put up a lot of bogus information and gimmicks to >> try to show that they are superior, but the are totally misleading and >> self serving. >> >> What I know is this: the colloidal silver I refer to has been >> successful against cancers, MS, HIV, staph, MRSA, candida, Crohn's, >> Lymes and many other conditions. I have not seen the same with ANY >> purely or mostly ionic silver. >> >> >> >> >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> Posted by: " Tony " >> Sun May 25, 2008 7:17 am (PDT) >> The major reason I do not make my own silver is that, as I type this, >> I am sitting less than fifteen feet away (a floor above) the lab that >> makes some of the best colloidal silver on the planet and get all I >> want for free (sounds like quite a deal, huh? actually Utopia Silver >> owner Ben Taylor gives his silver away free to anyone who comes to his >> location to visit, and sells all his supplements at cost to visitors >> as well. The locals love him!). >> >> If I lived elsewhere, and someday I likely will, I will keep a good >> supply of Utopia Silver's finest on hand just in case something really >> bad comes along, and also purchase a machine such as the Silver Puppy >> (my favorite) or perhaps the Silver Edge or Silver Gen machines to >> make bulk silver for all the many uses it has. >> >> The difference is that Utopia Silver's true colloidal silver has about >> 85% colloidal silver and 15% ionic silver and has particle sizes as >> small as .65 nanometer (with a mean average of about 2 nanometers). >> Such a tiny particle size means that for any given PPM concentration, >> you get many, many more times the surface area of silver. >> >> The best of the home machines turn out silver that is no more than 15% >> colloidal silver and 85% ionic silver - which is still quite useful >> for most needs. >> >> >> >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: >> > >> > Tony, what is your opinion about home made colloidal silver with >> one of the smaller generates purchased from one of the members of the >> silver list? I think it's called Silver Puppy... >> > >> > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or >> the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide >> which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever >> else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Angel >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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