Hi Java Man - Marc Swanepoel's Information on Oleander and Specific Gravity

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Thanks so much for your information - you have my admiration for what

you are doing. Colloidal silver and graviola are two of my favorites,

btw.

 

To answer your question about a more precise way of making oleander

extract, I am reposting this message from Marc Swanepoel from about

4000 messages back here in the forum:

 

Re: Specific Gravity and oleander soup

 

Specific gravity is the weight of a substance compared to that of an

equal volume of pure water. The specific gravity of the oleander,

according to the Anvirzel patent, should be around 1.08. That means

the final product (before mixing with alcohol) should be 8% heavier

than the same volume of water.

 

One can easily calculate the specific gravity of one's oleander soup

if you have a scale that measures accurately to one tenth of a gram.

Just take a small container and weigh it (say it weighs 20.5gm). Then

fill it with the oleander and weigh it again (say it now weighs

140.3gm). Then take the same container, fill it with water to the

same level as with the oleander, and weigh it one final time (say it

weighs 130.6gm). The weight of the container can now be deducted from

the last two weights to get the weight of the liquids (140.3 less 20.5

= 119.8 and 130.6 less 20.5 = 110.1). The specific gravity of the

oleander is the weight of the oleander divided by the weight of the

water (119.8 divided by 110.1 = 1.088). If your specific gravity

(BEFORE adding alcohol) is less than 1.06 the oleander is too diluted

and you need to cook a bit longer in order to get rid of excess water.

 

Regards,

 

Marc

 

 

oleander soup , Phillip Johnson <ilonapj wrote:

>

> Hello Group !

>

> Greetings from Java !

>

> I'm a new member of the group living in Indonesia.-

> I'd like to tell you a bit about myself and my reasons

> for joining this group. Sorry it's a bit long and I

> apologise for any mistakes using the forum etc., as I

> am not well educated in the use of computer tech for

> communications.

>

> My interest and mission in life is to bring better

> things into everyday use – they must be safer, more

> effective and affordable to all. Main focus is on

> health matters but am also active in alternative

> energy. Thses two subjects are of paramount importance

> and have common links.

>

> The economic situation here is very bad and poverty is

> rife. Whatever I do must be affordable and available

> to all, regardless of financial status.

>

> For the last year I have been researching and doing

> things that I consider to be important and useful – I

> have given up working for a salary. Life is not easy

> but my heart and head is full of such interesting

> things to persue. I am doing things that are useful in

> helping others.

>

> After reading up on orthodox medicine, success rates,

> education of doctors in the drug-only approach to

> treatment, the role of Big Pharma, Chemtrails,

> mammograms, suppression of knowledge for the sake of

> the buck, the fates of medical geniuses like Rife, the

> origin of diseases such as AIDS and mycoplasma etc.

> Etc - I am forced to involve and do my bit to help.

>

> Seems a lot of `professionals' in the health field are

> not contributing to the advancement of knowledge and

> the improvement of life. I do not have a medical

> background, but someone has to do the job. Whatever I

> can do to stimulate the application of safer and

> better ways of improving peoples health, I must do.

>

> I have seen first hand the reactions from orthodox

> medical people here towards `alternative " (hate that

> title) methods of medical treatment. Their ego and

> fear of facing the `conventional pharma-based medical

> establishment ` means they will do nothing to improve

> things. Making a buck is also very important for

> them.- more so than the wellbeing of their patients in

> most cases.

>

> Areas of activity in the past include processing of

> essential oils and herbal extracts, aromatherapy, aloe

> vera growing & processing, nata de coco, palm sugars,

> ozonated oils, virgin coconut oil, Rife therapy and

> colloidal silver to name as few.

>

> Currently I am producing colloidal silver which I sell

> at silly cheap prices and give for free to those who

> need but cannot afford. The feedback from users is

> nothing less than amazing – makes me feel useful and I

> know I am doing something good for the benefit of my

> fellow humans. When fiunds are available I will apply

> to the Department of Health here for approval for sale

> – that's going to be an interesting exercise !!!

> The recent information release on the use of graviola

> for cancer that was promoted and exposed by the Health

> Science Institute in Baltimore has lead to me

> processing and testing the product with local doctors.

>

>

> I have read so much about `the amazing botanicals of

> the rain forest' etc., etc. blah, blah – wishing I

> could get my hands on some to trial.

>

> With further study I found that graviola was a very

> common tree here. This was a great high for me. In

> fact I found 5 trees growing near my house, which are

> now the source of materials for testing.

>

> The reference in Health News by Tony on Oleander was a

> similar experience.

>

> Reading up on Nerium and it's potential benefits for

> many serious health conditions convinced me that this

> should be looked into quickly and seriously.

>

> After a sleepless night wondering where I could find

> the plant or get seeds, my wife appeared from her

> friends house with news and samples that the plant was

> prolific here where it is known as Japanese Sakura.

>

> So, dear members, it's off again ! Oleander ………

>

> That's why I have joined. I want to process and test

> the oleander soup with my doctor friend and hopefully

> help bring benefit and hope back to people in severe

> distress.

>

> We work so hard all ours lives, struggling to bring up

> our children, working at meaningless jobs – and then

> in the twilight of our life someone says you have

> cancer or some similar death sentence condition. There

> is no health care here and many times I have seen the

> poor souls selling their car and house to pay for

> chemo drugs that kill even faster. That's just not

> fair, it is a crime against humanity and all things

> good.

>

> I always remember the `bottom line' – I, my family or

> friends could be next, I must act !

>

> I am concerned over one major issue rearding the

> recipe to make the extract, no specific weights or

> quanitites were given i.e. – how much leaf and stem to

> use with how much water. Maybe a ratio of extract to

> raw material is one way to gauge stregth of the

> product. The need to be able to dose correctly is

> important, which in the case of nerium, needs to be

> quite accurate considering the toxicity of the plant.

>

> If anyone can help on this point, please let me know.

>

> Marc's concept of using Sutherlandia as a synergist

> with oleander is most interesting - I shall be

> looking into what potential synergists I have here

> that could be blended into a better performing end

> product. Like I said before, graviola is here and is

> maybe is one possibility.

>

> Wishing all good people a happy and healthy life.

>

> Always here to help.

>

> Phillip Johnson

> Bandung. West Java

>