Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Hello Group ! Greetings from Java ! I’m a new member of the group living in Indonesia.- I’d like to tell you a bit about myself and my reasons for joining this group. Sorry it’s a bit long and I apologise for any mistakes using the forum etc., as I am not well educated in the use of computer tech for communications. My interest and mission in life is to bring better things into everyday use – they must be safer, more effective and affordable to all. Main focus is on health matters but am also active in alternative energy. Thses two subjects are of paramount importance and have common links. The economic situation here is very bad and poverty is rife. Whatever I do must be affordable and available to all, regardless of financial status. For the last year I have been researching and doing things that I consider to be important and useful – I have given up working for a salary. Life is not easy but my heart and head is full of such interesting things to persue. I am doing things that are useful in helping others. After reading up on orthodox medicine, success rates, education of doctors in the drug-only approach to treatment, the role of Big Pharma, Chemtrails, mammograms, suppression of knowledge for the sake of the buck, the fates of medical geniuses like Rife, the origin of diseases such as AIDS and mycoplasma etc. Etc - I am forced to involve and do my bit to help. Seems a lot of ‘professionals’ in the health field are not contributing to the advancement of knowledge and the improvement of life. I do not have a medical background, but someone has to do the job. Whatever I can do to stimulate the application of safer and better ways of improving peoples health, I must do. I have seen first hand the reactions from orthodox medical people here towards ‘alternative” (hate that title) methods of medical treatment. Their ego and fear of facing the ‘conventional pharma-based medical establishment ‘ means they will do nothing to improve things. Making a buck is also very important for them.- more so than the wellbeing of their patients in most cases. Areas of activity in the past include processing of essential oils and herbal extracts, aromatherapy, aloe vera growing & processing, nata de coco, palm sugars, ozonated oils, virgin coconut oil, Rife therapy and colloidal silver to name as few. Currently I am producing colloidal silver which I sell at silly cheap prices and give for free to those who need but cannot afford. The feedback from users is nothing less than amazing – makes me feel useful and I know I am doing something good for the benefit of my fellow humans. When fiunds are available I will apply to the Department of Health here for approval for sale – that’s going to be an interesting exercise !!! The recent information release on the use of graviola for cancer that was promoted and exposed by the Health Science Institute in Baltimore has lead to me processing and testing the product with local doctors. I have read so much about ‘the amazing botanicals of the rain forest’ etc., etc. blah, blah – wishing I could get my hands on some to trial. With further study I found that graviola was a very common tree here. This was a great high for me. In fact I found 5 trees growing near my house, which are now the source of materials for testing. The reference in Health News by Tony on Oleander was a similar experience. Reading up on Nerium and it’s potential benefits for many serious health conditions convinced me that this should be looked into quickly and seriously. After a sleepless night wondering where I could find the plant or get seeds, my wife appeared from her friends house with news and samples that the plant was prolific here where it is known as Japanese Sakura. So, dear members, it’s off again ! Oleander ……… That’s why I have joined. I want to process and test the oleander soup with my doctor friend and hopefully help bring benefit and hope back to people in severe distress. We work so hard all ours lives, struggling to bring up our children, working at meaningless jobs – and then in the twilight of our life someone says you have cancer or some similar death sentence condition. There is no health care here and many times I have seen the poor souls selling their car and house to pay for chemo drugs that kill even faster. That’s just not fair, it is a crime against humanity and all things good. I always remember the ‘bottom line’ – I, my family or friends could be next, I must act ! I am concerned over one major issue rearding the recipe to make the extract, no specific weights or quanitites were given i.e. – how much leaf and stem to use with how much water. Maybe a ratio of extract to raw material is one way to gauge stregth of the product. The need to be able to dose correctly is important, which in the case of nerium, needs to be quite accurate considering the toxicity of the plant. If anyone can help on this point, please let me know. Marc’s concept of using Sutherlandia as a synergist with oleander is most interesting - I shall be looking into what potential synergists I have here that could be blended into a better performing end product. Like I said before, graviola is here and is maybe is one possibility. Wishing all good people a happy and healthy life. Always here to help. Phillip Johnson Bandung. West Java Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Phillip, While you are at it, check out Papaya Leaves as cure for cancer. Here is a website to visit. This protocol is used in Australia. http://www.middlepath.com.au/qol/pawpaw01.php Also visit this one: papayaleavesforcancer.com/index.html Another site: http://www.freshpatents.com/Compositions-for-cancer-prevention-treatment-or-amelioration-comprising-papaya-extract-dt20080320ptan20080069907.php (All this address on one line). Coconut oil was used for breast cancer cure together will all organic raw diet in the Philippines. Also successful with AIDS/HIV, and other diseases. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Phillip, Welcome to the forum. Yes the American Federal Drug Agency (FDA) streaches far and worldwide , so keep what you find and use limited to the forum and people who need it. You sound like a great hope for your country!. Bill - Phillip Johnson oleander soup 2008-05-23 22:46 Hello from Java Hello Group ! Greetings from Java !I’m a new member of the group living in Indonesia.-I’d like to tell you a bit about myself and my reasonsfor joining this group. Sorry it’s a bit long and Iapologise for any mistakes using the forum etc., as Iam not well educated in the use of computer tech forcommunications.My interest and mission in life is to bring betterthings into everyday use – they must be safer, moreeffective and affordable to all. Main focus is onhealth matters but am also active in alternativeenergy. Thses two subjects are of paramount importanceand have common links. The economic situation here is very bad and poverty isrife. Whatever I do must be affordable and availableto all, regardless of financial status.For the last year I have been researching and doingthings that I consider to be important and useful – Ihave given up working for a salary. Life is not easybut my heart and head is full of such interestingthings to persue. I am doing things that are useful inhelping others. After reading up on orthodox medicine, success rates,education of doctors in the drug-only approach totreatment, the role of Big Pharma, Chemtrails,mammograms, suppression of knowledge for the sake ofthe buck, the fates of medical geniuses like Rife, theorigin of diseases such as AIDS and mycoplasma etc.Etc - I am forced to involve and do my bit to help.Seems a lot of ‘professionals’ in the health field arenot contributing to the advancement of knowledge andthe improvement of life. I do not have a medicalbackground, but someone has to do the job. Whatever Ican do to stimulate the application of safer andbetter ways of improving peoples health, I must do.I have seen first hand the reactions from orthodoxmedical people here towards ‘alternative” (hate thattitle) methods of medical treatment. Their ego andfear of facing the ‘conventional pharma-based medicalestablishment ‘ means they will do nothing to improvethings. Making a buck is also very important forthem.- more so than the wellbeing of their patients inmost cases. Areas of activity in the past include processing ofessential oils and herbal extracts, aromatherapy, aloevera growing & processing, nata de coco, palm sugars,ozonated oils, virgin coconut oil, Rife therapy andcolloidal silver to name as few. Currently I am producing colloidal silver which I sellat silly cheap prices and give for free to those whoneed but cannot afford. The feedback from users isnothing less than amazing – makes me feel useful and Iknow I am doing something good for the benefit of myfellow humans. When fiunds are available I will applyto the Department of Health here for approval for sale– that’s going to be an interesting exercise !!!The recent information release on the use of graviolafor cancer that was promoted and exposed by the HealthScience Institute in Baltimore has lead to meprocessing and testing the product with local doctors.I have read so much about ‘the amazing botanicals ofthe rain forest’ etc., etc. blah, blah – wishing Icould get my hands on some to trial. With further study I found that graviola was a verycommon tree here. This was a great high for me. Infact I found 5 trees growing near my house, which arenow the source of materials for testing.The reference in Health News by Tony on Oleander was asimilar experience.Reading up on Nerium and it’s potential benefits formany serious health conditions convinced me that thisshould be looked into quickly and seriously. After a sleepless night wondering where I could findthe plant or get seeds, my wife appeared from herfriends house with news and samples that the plant wasprolific here where it is known as Japanese Sakura. So, dear members, it’s off again ! Oleander ………That’s why I have joined. I want to process and testthe oleander soup with my doctor friend and hopefullyhelp bring benefit and hope back to people in severedistress.We work so hard all ours lives, struggling to bring upour children, working at meaningless jobs – and thenin the twilight of our life someone says you havecancer or some similar death sentence condition. Thereis no health care here and many times I have seen thepoor souls selling their car and house to pay forchemo drugs that kill even faster. That’s just notfair, it is a crime against humanity and all thingsgood. I always remember the ‘bottom line’ – I, my family orfriends could be next, I must act !I am concerned over one major issue rearding therecipe to make the extract, no specific weights orquanitites were given i.e. – how much leaf and stem touse with how much water. Maybe a ratio of extract toraw material is one way to gauge stregth of theproduct. The need to be able to dose correctly isimportant, which in the case of nerium, needs to bequite accurate considering the toxicity of the plant.If anyone can help on this point, please let me know.Marc’s concept of using Sutherlandia as a synergistwith oleander is most interesting - I shall belooking into what potential synergists I have herethat could be blended into a better performing endproduct. Like I said before, graviola is here and ismaybe is one possibility.Wishing all good people a happy and healthy life.Always here to help.Phillip JohnsonBandung. West Java Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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