Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 I am not familiar with any sites that deal with MS, but I can tell you what will very likely take care of it for your friend: large amounts of colloidal silver such as that made by our friend the Utopia Silver Supplement Company. Superior true colloidal silver is amazing - it is deadly to over 650 different pathogens and has been used successfully for MRSA, Lymes, Cancer, Crohns and yes, Multiple Sclerosis. And much, much more. Do a google search for " Multiple Sclerosis and colloidal silver " and you will see that I mean. oleander soup , " michael " <mikem07306 wrote: > > I'm sorry if this is off topic. My friend has recently been given a > provisional diagnosis of MS while tests are being done to rule out > other conditions. I'm a devoted follower of this group and am > anxiously awaiting receiving my order from Suderland. Gratefully, I > don't have cancer myself, but I'm in my 60's and after having > hepatitis A and B in my crazy youth, I'm keen on preventing liver > cancer. So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a site > similar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Tony, what is your opinion about home made colloidal silver with one of the smaller generates purchased from one of the members of the silver list? I think it's called Silver Puppy... And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? Thanks, Angel Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver Posted by: "Tony" Sat May 24, 2008 12:08 am (PDT) I am not familiar with any sites that deal with MS, but I can tell youwhat will very likely take care of it for your friend: large amountsof colloidal silver such as that made by our friend the Utopia SilverSupplement Company.Superior true colloidal silver is amazing - it is deadly to over 650different pathogens and has been used successfully for MRSA, Lymes,Cancer, Crohns and yes, Multiple Sclerosis. And much, much more.Do a google search for "Multiple Sclerosis and colloidal silver" andyou will see that I mean.Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 The major reason I do not make my own silver is that, as I type this, I am sitting less than fifteen feet away (a floor above) the lab that makes some of the best colloidal silver on the planet and get all I want for free (sounds like quite a deal, huh? actually Utopia Silver owner Ben Taylor gives his silver away free to anyone who comes to his location to visit, and sells all his supplements at cost to visitors as well. The locals love him!). If I lived elsewhere, and someday I likely will, I will keep a good supply of Utopia Silver's finest on hand just in case something really bad comes along, and also purchase a machine such as the Silver Puppy (my favorite) or perhaps the Silver Edge or Silver Gen machines to make bulk silver for all the many uses it has. The difference is that Utopia Silver's true colloidal silver has about 85% colloidal silver and 15% ionic silver and has particle sizes as small as .65 nanometer (with a mean average of about 2 nanometers). Such a tiny particle size means that for any given PPM concentration, you get many, many more times the surface area of silver. The best of the home machines turn out silver that is no more than 15% colloidal silver and 85% ionic silver - which is still quite useful for most needs. oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote: > > Tony, what is your opinion about home made colloidal silver with one of the smaller generates purchased from one of the members of the silver list? I think it's called Silver Puppy... > > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? > > Thanks, > Angel > > > > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > Posted by: " Tony " > Sat May 24, 2008 12:08 am (PDT) > I am not familiar with any sites that deal with MS, but I can tell you > what will very likely take care of it for your friend: large amounts > of colloidal silver such as that made by our friend the Utopia Silver > Supplement Company. > > Superior true colloidal silver is amazing - it is deadly to over 650 > different pathogens and has been used successfully for MRSA, Lymes, > Cancer, Crohns and yes, Multiple Sclerosis. And much, much more. > > Do a google search for " Multiple Sclerosis and colloidal silver " and > you will see that I mean. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Tony, There was just an article that came out that "researchers" (just can't remember who) said that nano-ionic-colloidal-silver can be dangerous because they are too small and go directly inside cells and could damage liver and kidney. But tdoesn't his type of silver leave the body within 24 hours? Meanwhile another "research er" said that colloidal silver have big silver particles than can get stuck in one's system and not come out. What are your views on the above? I thank you for mentioning silvergen which i use and it claims to make both ionic (85%) and colloidal (15%). At least we get both. Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 My take is that the researchers are full of crap and supposition - and most of it can be traced to mainstream medicine, for which colloidal silver represents a huge treat to billions of dollars of profit on their inferior and often dangerous antibiotics. Some companies have larger particle silver, some don't. My suggestion - if it is not commercial silver from Utopia Silver or Mesosilver and not homemade silver from one of the three machines I mentioned, be wary. But really, there are so many silver makers and machines out there. You have to really try hard to screw up the process and then consume it in huge amounts for a long period to have any negative effects - such as the quite rare blue skin condition known as argyria, which is actually reversible - contrary to what the mainstream media misreports. For more information: Colloidal Silver Has Mainstream Medicine Singing the Blues http://www.naturalnews.com/022728.html oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel wrote: > > Tony, > > There was just an article that came out that " researchers " (just can't remember who) said that nano-ionic-colloidal-silver can be dangerous because they are too small and go directly inside cells and could damage liver and kidney. But tdoesn't his type of silver leave the body within 24 hours? Meanwhile another " research er " > said that colloidal silver have big silver particles than can get stuck in one's system and not come out. > > What are your views on the above? > > I thank you for mentioning silvergen which i use and it claims to make both ionic (85%) and colloidal (15%). At least we get both. > > Thanks. > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 " So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a site similar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot. michael " Hi Michael You should definitely investigate LDN. You can join the lowdosenaltrexone and read all the testimonies of people with various autoimune diseases (including MS) using Low dose naltrexone. LDN in most cases halt the progress of the disease. Regards Martie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Michael ,Check this www.ldn4cancer.comLDN is very popular in the fight against MS.Good Luck,Maritzamarmeyh <Martie.Hanekomoleander soup Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:16:17 AM Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver "So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a site similar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot. michael" Hi Michael You should definitely investigate LDN. You can join the lowdosenaltrexone and read all the testimonies of people with various autoimune diseases (including MS) using Low dose naltrexone. LDN in most cases halt the progress of the disease. Regards Martie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Tony, I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! Thanks, Angel - toreadpeoplehealthinfo oleander soup Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? Thanks, Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 But Tony, now I'm confused. The people over on the silver list (where the sellers of the silver puppy and the other one, can't think of its name right now....all hang out) they say that calling the solution made by these generators "colloidal silver" is actually erroneous because these generators actually make ionic silver! I've seen references to this many times. I saw you recommending these generators and then I saw you also recommending "colloidal" silver over ionic in the email below. Now I'm confused...it seems incongruent. Doesn't it? Would you please clarify? Thanks, Angel [!! SPAM] Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver Posted by: "Tony" Sun May 25, 2008 12:43 pm (PDT) The only real controversy comes from those who do not have theknowledge of technology to make the true colloidal silver. Inactuality, colloidal silver converts to ionic silver upon contact andit is always ionic silver that actually is responsible for the actionsagainst pathogens. The problem comes when silver is taken foranything internally. Once ionic silver reaches the stomach, it isneutralized and destroyed by stomach acid (hydrochloric acid). Ionicsilver makers have put up a lot of bogus information and gimmicks totry to show that they are superior, but the are totally misleading andself serving.What I know is this: the colloidal silver I refer to has beensuccessful against cancers, MS, HIV, staph, MRSA, candida, Crohn's,Lymes and many other conditions. I have not seen the same with ANYpurely or mostly ionic silver. Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver Posted by: "Tony" Sun May 25, 2008 7:17 am (PDT) The major reason I do not make my own silver is that, as I type this,I am sitting less than fifteen feet away (a floor above) the lab thatmakes some of the best colloidal silver on the planet and get all Iwant for free (sounds like quite a deal, huh? actually Utopia Silverowner Ben Taylor gives his silver away free to anyone who comes to hislocation to visit, and sells all his supplements at cost to visitorsas well. The locals love him!).If I lived elsewhere, and someday I likely will, I will keep a goodsupply of Utopia Silver's finest on hand just in case something reallybad comes along, and also purchase a machine such as the Silver Puppy(my favorite) or perhaps the Silver Edge or Silver Gen machines tomake bulk silver for all the many uses it has.The difference is that Utopia Silver's true colloidal silver has about85% colloidal silver and 15% ionic silver and has particle sizes assmall as .65 nanometer (with a mean average of about 2 nanometers). Such a tiny particle size means that for any given PPM concentration,you get many, many more times the surface area of silver.The best of the home machines turn out silver that is no more than 15%colloidal silver and 85% ionic silver - which is still quite usefulfor most needs.Tonyoleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote:>> Tony, what is your opinion about home made colloidal silver withone of the smaller generates purchased from one of the members of thesilver list? I think it's called Silver Puppy...> > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, orthe lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decidewhich ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whateverelse there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply?> > Thanks,> Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Tony, After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website to order something called Silver Puppy on? Just my guess Bill - toreadpeoplehealthinfo oleander soup 2008-06-02 14:32 Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver Tony, I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! Thanks, Angel - toreadpeoplehealthinfo oleander soup Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? Thanks, Angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 The best overall silver is colloidal silver. Ionic silver is fine when used topically, but is far less effective internally. ALL silver action against microbes comes from ionic silver. Colloidal silver releases ionic silver upon contact with microbes. The advantage is that ionic silver gets mostly destroyed by hydrochloric acid in the stomach, whereas colloidal silver is better able to pass on to the internal areas and microbes needing treatment. Some of the literature and groups say differently - but that is because they all have inferior products they have to justify. oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote: > > But Tony, now I'm confused. The people over on the silver list (where the sellers of the silver puppy and the other one, can't think of its name right now....all hang out) they say that calling the solution made by these generators " colloidal silver " is actually erroneous because these generators actually make ionic silver! I've seen references to this many times. I saw you recommending these generators and then I saw you also recommending " colloidal " silver over ionic in the email below. > > Now I'm confused...it seems incongruent. Doesn't it? Would you please clarify? > > Thanks, > Angel > > > > [!! SPAM] Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > Posted by: " Tony " > Sun May 25, 2008 12:43 pm (PDT) > The only real controversy comes from those who do not have the > knowledge of technology to make the true colloidal silver. In > actuality, colloidal silver converts to ionic silver upon contact and > it is always ionic silver that actually is responsible for the actions > against pathogens. The problem comes when silver is taken for > anything internally. Once ionic silver reaches the stomach, it is > neutralized and destroyed by stomach acid (hydrochloric acid). Ionic > silver makers have put up a lot of bogus information and gimmicks to > try to show that they are superior, but the are totally misleading and > self serving. > > What I know is this: the colloidal silver I refer to has been > successful against cancers, MS, HIV, staph, MRSA, candida, Crohn's, > Lymes and many other conditions. I have not seen the same with ANY > purely or mostly ionic silver. > > > > > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > Posted by: " Tony " > Sun May 25, 2008 7:17 am (PDT) > The major reason I do not make my own silver is that, as I type this, > I am sitting less than fifteen feet away (a floor above) the lab that > makes some of the best colloidal silver on the planet and get all I > want for free (sounds like quite a deal, huh? actually Utopia Silver > owner Ben Taylor gives his silver away free to anyone who comes to his > location to visit, and sells all his supplements at cost to visitors > as well. The locals love him!). > > If I lived elsewhere, and someday I likely will, I will keep a good > supply of Utopia Silver's finest on hand just in case something really > bad comes along, and also purchase a machine such as the Silver Puppy > (my favorite) or perhaps the Silver Edge or Silver Gen machines to > make bulk silver for all the many uses it has. > > The difference is that Utopia Silver's true colloidal silver has about > 85% colloidal silver and 15% ionic silver and has particle sizes as > small as .65 nanometer (with a mean average of about 2 nanometers). > Such a tiny particle size means that for any given PPM concentration, > you get many, many more times the surface area of silver. > > The best of the home machines turn out silver that is no more than 15% > colloidal silver and 85% ionic silver - which is still quite useful > for most needs. > > > > oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: > > > > Tony, what is your opinion about home made colloidal silver with > one of the smaller generates purchased from one of the members of the > silver list? I think it's called Silver Puppy... > > > > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or > the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide > which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever > else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? > > > > Thanks, > > Angel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 Parts per million is mostly irrelevent. The key is particle size. The smaller the particle, the more surface area a product has. Unfortunately, there is a lot of dishonesty about PPM and particle size when you compare the advertised figures versus tested figures. Utopia Silver has particles as small as .64 nanometers, with a mean average of 2 nanometers. Some products are advertised at 500 PPM and even more. That is ridiculous. I guess they want to see more Smurffs like Paul Karason running around . . . just add some salt to that 500 PPM silver, drink several ounces daily and before long, you too can be a blue celebrity. oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote: > > Tony, > > I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! > > Thanks, > Angel > > > - > toreadpeoplehealthinfo > oleander soup > Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? > > Thanks, > Angel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 http://www.silverpuppy.com Homemade silver is quite good for cleaning, disinfecting and topical use. 20 PPM is just fine. Again, particle size is utmost. For internal use, the colloidal silver becomes important. The besttru colloidal silver products have about 75% colloidal silver and 25% ionic. The best home generators, such as the puppy, make about 15% colloidal silver and 85% ionic. Ionic silver is mostly clear to pale yellow. Colloidal silver is mostly dark amber to brown. oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins wrote: > > Tony, > After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website to order something called Silver Puppy on? > Just my guess > Bill > - > toreadpeoplehealthinfo > oleander soup > 2008-06-02 14:32 > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > > > > Tony, > > I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! > > Thanks, > Angel > > > - > toreadpeoplehealthinfo > oleander soup > Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer this simply? > > Thanks, > Angel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Tony, I know you keep saying this but in my experience true colloidal silver did absolutely nothing for an infection I had, but when I switched to a mostly ionic form it cleared it in a few days. This happened more than once. I now make my own. The Silver Puppy is a good home unit. I use a Silvergen model that makes 5 gallons at a time. I use it for horses. Bob - " Tony " <oleander soup > Monday, June 02, 2008 3:52 PM Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > http://www.silverpuppy.com > > Homemade silver is quite good for cleaning, disinfecting and topical > use. 20 PPM is just fine. Again, particle size is utmost. > > For internal use, the colloidal silver becomes important. The besttru > colloidal silver products have about 75% colloidal silver and 25% > ionic. The best home generators, such as the puppy, make about 15% > colloidal silver and 85% ionic. > > Ionic silver is mostly clear to pale yellow. Colloidal silver is > mostly dark amber to brown. > > > > > oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins wrote: >> >> Tony, >> After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website to > order something called Silver Puppy on? >> Just my guess >> Bill >> - >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo >> oleander soup >> 2008-06-02 14:32 >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> >> >> >> Tony, >> >> I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! >> >> Thanks, >> Angel >> >> >> - >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo >> oleander soup >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> >> And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the > better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and > how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with > vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer > this simply? >> >> Thanks, >> Angel >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Was your infection external or internal? What brand did you use? A lot of products claim to be colloidal silver, only a couple really are. The colloidal silver I am familiar with - Utopia Silver - has taken care of Lymes, Crohns, Staph, Candida, MRSA and a host of other conditions. SilverGen is right up there with the Silver Puppy. Perhaps a bit more sophisticated and more expensive as well. oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: > > Tony, > > I know you keep saying this but in my experience true colloidal silver > did absolutely nothing for an infection I had, but when I switched to a > mostly ionic form it cleared it in a few days. This happened more than > once. I now make my own. The Silver Puppy is a good home unit. I use a > Silvergen model that makes 5 gallons at a time. I use it for horses. > > Bob > - > " Tony " > <oleander soup > > Monday, June 02, 2008 3:52 PM > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > > > > http://www.silverpuppy.com > > > > Homemade silver is quite good for cleaning, disinfecting and topical > > use. 20 PPM is just fine. Again, particle size is utmost. > > > > For internal use, the colloidal silver becomes important. The besttru > > colloidal silver products have about 75% colloidal silver and 25% > > ionic. The best home generators, such as the puppy, make about 15% > > colloidal silver and 85% ionic. > > > > Ionic silver is mostly clear to pale yellow. Colloidal silver is > > mostly dark amber to brown. > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins@> wrote: > >> > >> Tony, > >> After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website to > > order something called Silver Puppy on? > >> Just my guess > >> Bill > >> - > >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo@ > >> oleander soup > >> 2008-06-02 14:32 > >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > >> > >> > >> > >> Tony, > >> > >> I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Angel > >> > >> > >> - > >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo@ > >> oleander soup > >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM > >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > >> > >> And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the > > better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and > > how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with > > vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer > > this simply? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Angel > >> > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Tony, I used silver made from distilled H2O and .999 fine silver, using my Silvergen machine. Great device as is the Silver Puppy, both constant current with automatic stirring. The original colloidal silver I used was bought from Meso Silver. Not belitteling their product at all... it is exactly as they say, a pure colloid. I now believe the ions work because they are charged, thus getting attracted to the germs causing the problem. The way silver works is by contacting the microbes and destroying enzymes they need for cellular respiration. It is harmless to multi-cellular organisms but lethal to single celled critters as you know. Yes silver has the ability to regenerate tissue. I'm trying to figure out how I can regenerate my lingual nerve, damaged from an injection of anesthetic (articaine) about a year ago. Don't know if silver would be of help or not, and not too sure how I would get the silver into the area where it needs to be. Bob - " Tony " <oleander soup > Monday, June 02, 2008 6:11 PM Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > Was your infection external or internal? What brand did you use? A > lot of products claim to be colloidal silver, only a couple really > are. The colloidal silver I am familiar with - Utopia Silver - has > taken care of Lymes, Crohns, Staph, Candida, MRSA and a host of other > conditions. > > SilverGen is right up there with the Silver Puppy. Perhaps a bit more > sophisticated and more expensive as well. > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: >> >> Tony, >> >> I know you keep saying this but in my experience true colloidal > silver >> did absolutely nothing for an infection I had, but when I switched to a >> mostly ionic form it cleared it in a few days. This happened more > than >> once. I now make my own. The Silver Puppy is a good home unit. I > use a >> Silvergen model that makes 5 gallons at a time. I use it for horses. >> >> Bob >> - >> " Tony " >> <oleander soup > >> Monday, June 02, 2008 3:52 PM >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> >> >> > http://www.silverpuppy.com >> > >> > Homemade silver is quite good for cleaning, disinfecting and topical >> > use. 20 PPM is just fine. Again, particle size is utmost. >> > >> > For internal use, the colloidal silver becomes important. The besttru >> > colloidal silver products have about 75% colloidal silver and 25% >> > ionic. The best home generators, such as the puppy, make about 15% >> > colloidal silver and 85% ionic. >> > >> > Ionic silver is mostly clear to pale yellow. Colloidal silver is >> > mostly dark amber to brown. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Tony, >> >> After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website to >> > order something called Silver Puppy on? >> >> Just my guess >> >> Bill >> >> - >> >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo@ >> >> oleander soup >> >> 2008-06-02 14:32 >> >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tony, >> >> >> >> I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Angel >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo@ >> >> oleander soup >> >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM >> >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver >> >> >> >> And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the >> > better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and >> > how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with >> > vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer >> > this simply? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Angel >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 If you used Mesosilver then you used as good as it gets when it comes to pure colloidal silver. Mesosilver and Utopia Silver are the two best products out there - and they both use similar methods unlike anyone else. Not sure what to tell you about the linqual nerve other than spray and gargle with silver and give it time. oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: > > Tony, > > I used silver made from distilled H2O and .999 fine silver, using my > Silvergen machine. Great device as is the Silver Puppy, both constant > current with automatic stirring. The original colloidal silver I used was > bought from Meso Silver. Not belitteling their product at all... it is > exactly as they say, a pure colloid. I now believe the ions work because > they are charged, thus getting attracted to the germs causing the problem. > The way silver works is by contacting the microbes and destroying enzymes > they need for cellular respiration. It is harmless to multi-cellular > organisms but lethal to single celled critters as you know. Yes silver has > the ability to regenerate tissue. I'm trying to figure out how I can > regenerate my lingual nerve, damaged from an injection of anesthetic > (articaine) about a year ago. Don't know if silver would be of help or not, > and not too sure how I would get the silver into the area where it needs to > be. > > Bob > - > " Tony " > <oleander soup > > Monday, June 02, 2008 6:11 PM > Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > > > > Was your infection external or internal? What brand did you use? A > > lot of products claim to be colloidal silver, only a couple really > > are. The colloidal silver I am familiar with - Utopia Silver - has > > taken care of Lymes, Crohns, Staph, Candida, MRSA and a host of other > > conditions. > > > > SilverGen is right up there with the Silver Puppy. Perhaps a bit more > > sophisticated and more expensive as well. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever@> wrote: > >> > >> Tony, > >> > >> I know you keep saying this but in my experience true colloidal > > silver > >> did absolutely nothing for an infection I had, but when I switched to a > >> mostly ionic form it cleared it in a few days. This happened more > > than > >> once. I now make my own. The Silver Puppy is a good home unit. I > > use a > >> Silvergen model that makes 5 gallons at a time. I use it for horses. > >> > >> Bob > >> - > >> " Tony " @> > >> <oleander soup > > >> Monday, June 02, 2008 3:52 PM > >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > >> > >> > >> > http://www.silverpuppy.com > >> > > >> > Homemade silver is quite good for cleaning, disinfecting and topical > >> > use. 20 PPM is just fine. Again, particle size is utmost. > >> > > >> > For internal use, the colloidal silver becomes important. The besttru > >> > colloidal silver products have about 75% colloidal silver and 25% > >> > ionic. The best home generators, such as the puppy, make about 15% > >> > colloidal silver and 85% ionic. > >> > > >> > Ionic silver is mostly clear to pale yellow. Colloidal silver is > >> > mostly dark amber to brown. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Tony, > >> >> After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website to > >> > order something called Silver Puppy on? > >> >> Just my guess > >> >> Bill > >> >> - > >> >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo@ > >> >> oleander soup > >> >> 2008-06-02 14:32 > >> >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Tony, > >> >> > >> >> I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it ! > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Angel > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> toreadpeoplehealthinfo@ > >> >> oleander soup > >> >> Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM > >> >> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver > >> >> > >> >> And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher the > >> > better, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest and > >> > how to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning with > >> > vs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answer > >> > this simply? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Angel > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Can somebody elucidate on the colloidal silver for internal consumption? I will soon be buying a unit for home use. For some reason I feel there is conflicting or confusing data on the subject. I understand about the particle size...tiny is better for absorption; that makes sense but what I do not understand is which is better? Ionic or the CS? I also feel you cannot have one without the other. If this assumption is true, then what is the ratio from a home unit for optimal health? Thnx MC Tony wrote: http://www.silverpuppy.comHomemade silver is quite good for cleaning, disinfecting and topicaluse. 20 PPM is just fine. Again, particle size is utmost.For internal use, the colloidal silver becomes important. The besttrucolloidal silver products have about 75% colloidal silver and 25%ionic. The best home generators, such as the puppy, make about 15%colloidal silver and 85% ionic.Ionic silver is mostly clear to pale yellow. Colloidal silver ismostly dark amber to brown.Tonyoleander soup , "Bill" <w.wilkins wrote:>> Tony,> After reading it It is implied that she/he does not what website toorder something called Silver Puppy on?> Just my guess> Bill> - > toreadpeoplehealthinfo > oleander soup > 2008-06-02 14:32> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver> > > > Tony,> > I didn't see a reply to this question. Sorry if I missed it !> > Thanks,> Angel> > > - > toreadpeoplehealthinfo > oleander soup > Sunday, May 25, 2008 1:09 AM> Re: MS - Use Colloidal Siver> > And I always get confused about the ppm-s, the higher thebetter, or the lower the better... which ppms are the strongest andhow to decide which ppm to use for what? Internal vs. cleaning withvs. whatever else there is... Do you know enough about it to answerthis simply?> > Thanks,> Angel> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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