Guest guest Posted September 4, 2003 Report Share Posted September 4, 2003 Dear Karen, If patients are very weak, use more moxa (direct small cones) and fewer needles. My experience is that e-stim can have very deleterious effects if the patient is already exhibiting a high degree of spacicity. Flaws/Blue Poppy has a nice bit about MS in his book Treating Western Diseases With . Patients feel a bit more confident when they see it in a book. Ask for a diet diary, and what they do to counter balance stress. I also put ALL of them on essential fatty acids, since it is a demylinated nerve sheath that causes problems. Fatty acids coat nerves at the synaptic cleft. Peace. Anne K, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2003 Report Share Posted September 5, 2003 Karen, I do not currently have time for an in depth answer but my short version is; I have had great result treating Pts with MS. Most are Pi Xu, Yin Xu and very true Yang excess. Do notmake the mistake of following false heat type protocols since the Yang is truly out of control in so many of these Pts. Herbs are very important. Doc karen1954uk <tryfan wrote: I'd like to hear from practitioners who have treated patients with MS. I've recently begun treating at an MS clinic.<SNIP> True security must be rooted in true and complete social, economic and environmental justice for everyone everywhere with no exceptions. Anything else is an illusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2003 Report Share Posted September 7, 2003 i think MS is a severe cold problem in the kidneys. affecting the spine. i think if one works on the cold which will release with fair bit of moxa on bladder meridian on the back points. the release may be painful at times during treatment but pt will benefit. becareful of burning pt as sometimes sensation may not be the best. good luck. please pass on feedback as we can all benefit. anand --- Doc <drdrdoc wrote: > Karen, > I do not currently have time for an in depth answer > but my short version is; > I have had great result treating Pts with MS. Most > are Pi Xu, Yin Xu and very true Yang excess. > Do notmake the mistake of following false heat type > protocols since the Yang is truly out of control in > so many of these Pts. > Herbs are very important. > Doc > > > karen1954uk <tryfan wrote: > I'd like to hear from practitioners who have treated > patients with MS. > I've recently begun treating at an MS clinic.<SNIP> > > > True security must be rooted in true and complete > social, economic and environmental justice for > everyone everywhere with no exceptions. Anything > else is an illusion. > > > > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== Anand Bapat Pain Management Specialist Sports Injury Specialist Blacktown, Parramatta, Punchbowl, & Hammondville 0402 472 897 ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://mail.messenger..co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 i am with ms, willing to communicate On Behalf Of Annette McCraneySunday, October 02, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: MSMy next door neighbor, a 30YO man, has just been diagnosed with MS. His wife asked me if I could find out some information for him. I'd appreciate infol, sources,treatments, etc. I appreciate any help for this young couple...Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 First things first, in my humble opinion many, many times aspartame poisoning is diagnosed as MS. Check with him and find out if he drinks any diet sodas or drinks (like Crystal Lite) or eats any diet foods. Aspartame is well hidden in many foods - if they have decreased fat, they may have used aspartame to sweeten more (most low-fat yogurts do this). Also look for sucralose (Splenda) in the diet - as that too may be the culprit bringing on the symptoms. It's also possible that the symptoms are brought on by unseen allergies. An allergic reaction is not necessarily going to be hives and swelling or sneezing and stuffiness. My daughter had multichemical sensitivity/environmental illness a few years ago. With that, you have major allergies to many, many things, and the allergic reactions are not typical of what you would expect - emotional (rages), shooting neurological pains, weakness, visual disturbances, headache, brain fog, dumping syndrome, etc. Kat , Annette McCraney <shawneegal@e...> wrote: > My next door neighbor, a 30YO man, has just been diagnosed with MS. > His wife asked me if I could find out some information for him. I'd > appreciate infol, sources, > treatments, etc. I appreciate any help for this young couple...Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Annette, You could have a look at -remedyfind.com -ldn.org or something similar (LDN stands for Low Dose Naltrexone) -different MS diets (Best Bet, Swank,...) -newtreatment.org -mercola.com Allllllll the best to you & your neighbors (who are verrrrrrrry lucky to have you!), Yannic 2005/10/2, Annette McCraney <shawneegal: > My next door neighbor, a 30YO man, has just been diagnosed with MS. > His wife asked me if I could find out some information for him. I'd > appreciate infol, sources, > treatments, etc. I appreciate any help for this young couple...Annette > > > > > > 咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫咫誑咫èª\ §å’«èª‘咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫� > > is MOVING! > > We are moving to: > > MedicalConspiracies > > Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- > Post message: MedicalConspiracies > List owner: MedicalConspiracies-owner > > 咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫咫誑咫èª\ §å’«èª‘咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫� > > New Sister Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word) > Google groups: > http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiracies > > Post message: MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) com > Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com > > Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, > any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Another thing to look into is Colloidal Silver (CS) as a treatment. Do some googling with 'Nancy Delise'. She cured herself with CS. Yannic 2005/10/3, Kat <js_kat: > First things first, in my humble opinion many, many times aspartame > poisoning is diagnosed as MS. Check with him and find out if he > drinks any diet sodas or drinks (like Crystal Lite) or eats any diet > foods. Aspartame is well hidden in many foods - if they have > decreased fat, they may have used aspartame to sweeten more (most > low-fat yogurts do this). Also look for sucralose (Splenda) in the > diet - as that too may be the culprit bringing on the symptoms. > > It's also possible that the symptoms are brought on by unseen > allergies. An allergic reaction is not necessarily going to be hives > and swelling or sneezing and stuffiness. My daughter had > multichemical sensitivity/environmental illness a few years ago. With > that, you have major allergies to many, many things, and the allergic > reactions are not typical of what you would expect - emotional > (rages), shooting neurological pains, weakness, visual disturbances, > headache, brain fog, dumping syndrome, etc. > > Kat > > , Annette McCraney > <shawneegal@e...> wrote: > > My next door neighbor, a 30YO man, has just been diagnosed with MS. > > His wife asked me if I could find out some information for him. I'd > > appreciate infol, sources, > > treatments, etc. I appreciate any help for this young couple...Annette > > > > > 咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫咫誑咫èª\ §å’«èª‘咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫� > > is MOVING! > > We are moving to: > > MedicalConspiracies > > Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- > Post message: MedicalConspiracies > List owner: MedicalConspiracies-owner > > 咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫咫誑咫èª\ §å’«èª‘咫誧咫誑咫誧咫誑咫� > > New Sister Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word) > Google groups: > http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiracies > > Post message: MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) com > Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com > > Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. > **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** > In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, > any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hi Kat, Did your daughter recover from her environmental illness? How did she do it? Thanks, Bernadette > It's also possible that the symptoms are brought on by unseen > allergies. An allergic reaction is not necessarily going to be hives > and swelling or sneezing and stuffiness. My daughter had > multichemical sensitivity/environmental illness a few years ago. With > that, you have major allergies to many, many things, and the allergic > reactions are not typical of what you would expect - emotional > (rages), shooting neurological pains, weakness, visual disturbances, > headache, brain fog, dumping syndrome, etc. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Hi Bernadette, Yes, my daughter is doing great now, without allergies. I was very lucky to find the Natural Healing network of doctors. Natural Healing is a technique that gets the body back online and the body's communication system back up and functioning properly. The referral list for the doctors in the network I took my daughter to is at http://nhseminars.com/referral_list.htm - but if you have EI, I personally would call Dr. Frank (the originator of the NH discipline - his phone is at the bottom of the web page there) and ask him who he would recommend you see in your area. Really big issues with EI are, you have to get your water level up - and you need to be sure that your body is accessing and utilizing the water properly, eating red meat (which I have found most people with EI have been severely lacking in, which in turn may have been part of the cause of EI, and which they may also need to be harmonized to deal with, because if they have not had for a long period of time, their body may not remember how to properly utilize it), eating fresh fruits and vegetables and limiting processed carbs. If you wish to contact me directly, you're more than welcome to. I have a mail account using this name. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions or give you any more information you desire. Kat , " muttluver1 " <czernib@w...> wrote: > Hi Kat, > > Did your daughter recover from her environmental illness? How did she > do it? > Thanks, > Bernadette > > > > > It's also possible that the symptoms are brought on by unseen > > allergies. An allergic reaction is not necessarily going to be hives > > and swelling or sneezing and stuffiness. My daughter had > > multichemical sensitivity/environmental illness a few years ago. With > > that, you have major allergies to many, many things, and the allergic > > reactions are not typical of what you would expect - emotional > > (rages), shooting neurological pains, weakness, visual disturbances, > > headache, brain fog, dumping syndrome, etc. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'm sorry if this is off topic. My friend has recently been given a provisional diagnosis of MS while tests are being done to rule out other conditions. I'm a devoted follower of this group and am anxiously awaiting receiving my order from Suderland. Gratefully, I don't have cancer myself, but I'm in my 60's and after having hepatitis A and B in my crazy youth, I'm keen on preventing liver cancer. So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a site similar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 The LDN list would be helpful.Mikemichael <mikem07306oleander soup Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:09:43 PM MS I'm sorry if this is off topic. My friend has recently been given a provisional diagnosis of MS while tests are being done to rule out other conditions. I'm a devoted follower of this group and am anxiously awaiting receiving my order from Suderland. Gratefully, I don't have cancer myself, but I'm in my 60's and after having hepatitis A and B in my crazy youth, I'm keen on preventing liver cancer. So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a site similar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Many naturopaths feel that MS is a yeast infection of the nerves...and brain. Alkalizing is one of the best things to do for systemic yeast. Additionally, iFlora for Women is an antiyeast probiotic. And I just got this in a newsletter: Dear Reader, When you think of serotonin you probably think of depression or relief from depression. But new research suggests that multiple sclerosis progression may be impeded with serotonin manipulation. The question is, how will you manipulate it? A famous drug might do the trick. But non- drug approaches might work just as well. ----------- Keeping nerve lanes healthy ----------- Serotonin is a hormone that helps regulate our sense of well being. But it also plays an important role in the transmission of certain nerve impulses. Although it occurs naturally throughout the body, serotonin is concentrated in the midbrain where levels of the hormone are determined by reuptake into the pre-synaptic cell. When levels are low, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor drugs (SSRI) increase serotonin availability. A new study from the University of Groningen in the Netherlands tested fluoxetine (the generic name for the active ingredient of the SSRI Prozac) on patients with relapsing remitting or relapsing secondary progressive MS. For 24 weeks, 40 MS patients received either 20 mg of fluoxetine daily, or a placebo. On weeks 4, 8, 16 and 24, each patient was given a brain MRI to assess the telltale lesions typical of MS. These lesions are patches of inflammation that strip neurons of their myelin sheaths – the fatty insulation that protects nerve cells. Results showed that the average number of new lesions in the fluoxetine group was 1.84, compared to 5.16 in the placebo group. More than 60 percent of the subjects in the fluoxetine group had no new lesions, while 26 percent of the placebo subjects had no new lesions. ----------- Sunlight and sunflower seeds ----------- Before MS patients try to manage the progression of lesions with a drug that has a daunting list of adverse side effects, they should know that there are safe non-drug treatments that can help boost serotonin levels. In the March 2002 issue of Real Health Breakthroughs, William Campbell Douglass, M.D., recommended these supplements that may promote the production of serotonin: biotin, magnesium, vitamins B-1, B-3, B-6, and B-12. Moderate daily exposure to sunshine has also been shown to stimulate serotonin production. For a comprehensive overview of natural ways to treat MS, HSI has prepared a special report titled "Underground Cures: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Multiple Sclerosis." Compiled with the input of experts on the HSI Advisory Panel, this report offers details on alternative treatments that have provided answers for many MS patients. ...and another thing It sounds odd, but there just might be something to it: The length of your limbs might help predict risk of Alzheimer's disease (AD). Previous research has suggested a link between shorter arm spans and knee heights to increased risk of developing dementia. The theory: Poor nutrition in early life may have a simultaneous impact on future dementia risk and limb length. Researchers at Johns Hopkins and the USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging investigated this link with a study that followed nearly 2,800 elderly subjects for about five years. Results: In women, greater arm span and knee height were linked to lower risk of dementia and AD Women with the shortest arm spans were about 1.5 times more likely to develop dementia and AD compared to women with the longest arm spans In men, short arm span was the only limb measurement linked to lower dementia and AD risk If future research continues to confirm these findings, doctors will have another measure by which to predict possible dementia in their patients. Meanwhile, the nutrition you choose today may have a profound impact on your AD risk tomorrow. You can find tips for keeping your brain healthy and sharp in the e-Alert "Brain Boosters" (10/24/05). To Your Good Health, Jenny Thompson Sources: "Effects of Fluoxetine on Disease Activity in Relapsing and Multiple Sclerosis: A Double-blind, Placebo-Controlled, Exploratory Study" Journal of Neurology Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, Published online ahead of print 5/1/08, jnnp.bmj.com "Knee Height and Arm Span – A Reflection of Early Life environment and Risk of Dementia" Vol. 70, No. 19, Pt. 2, 5/6/08, Neurology, neurology.org NOTE from ME: some foods help build serotonin: bananas, walnuts. pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds contain l-tryptophan, an amino acid that converts to serotonin David In a message dated 5/23/2008 1:10:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikem07306 writes: I'm sorry if this is off topic. My friend has recently been given aprovisional diagnosis of MS while tests are being done to rule outother conditions. I'm a devoted follower of this group and amanxiously awaiting receiving my order from Suderland. Gratefully, Idon't have cancer myself, but I'm in my 60's and after havinghepatitis A and B in my crazy youth, I'm keen on preventing livercancer. So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a sitesimilar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot.Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Hello, I always think for what cause the problem, not just easily to blame any of the problem. To repair, I always also think about interaction nutrient that may cause harm full not to used it, as well as what need by the body to eliminated the problem using severals test like dry blood, Iridology, scelera, and the body sign, including pH, balanced nutrient, while treathing to cure are unique depend on who are in the problems. If you are thinking to used some herbs for some body problems, then it might go wrong due to the body reaction are not the same as any body. Thank you, Regards from Indonesia. ahzoov wrote: Many naturopaths feel that MS is a yeast infection of the nerves...and brain. Alkalizing is one of the best things to do for systemic yeast. Additionally, iFlora for Women is an antiyeast probiotic. No I am not  And I just got this in a newsletter:  Dear Reader, When you think of serotonin you probably think of depression or relief from depression. But new research suggests that multiple sclerosis progression may be impeded with serotonin manipulation. The question is, how will you manipulate it? A famous drug might do the trick. But non- drug approaches might work just as well. ----------- Keeping nerve lanes healthy ----------- Serotonin is a hormone that helps regulate our sense of well being. But it also plays an important role in the transmission of certain nerve impulses. Although it occurs naturally throughout the body, serotonin is concentrated in the midbrain where levels of the hormone are determined by reuptake into the pre-synaptic cell. When levels are low, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor drugs (SSRI) increase serotonin availability. A new study from the University of Groningen in the Netherlands tested fluoxetine (the generic name for the active ingredient of the SSRI Prozac) on patients with relapsing remitting or relapsing secondary progressive MS. For 24 weeks, 40 MS patients received either 20 mg of fluoxetine daily, or a placebo. On weeks 4, 8, 16 and 24, each patient was given a brain MRI to assess the telltale lesions typical of MS. These lesions are patches of inflammation that strip neurons of their myelin sheaths – the fatty insulation that protects nerve cells. Results showed that the average number of new lesions in the fluoxetine group was 1.84, compared to 5.16 in the placebo group. More than 60 percent of the subjects in the fluoxetine group had no new lesions, while 26 percent of the placebo subjects had no new lesions. ----------- Sunlight and sunflower seeds ----------- Before MS patients try to manage the progression of lesions with a drug that has a daunting list of adverse side effects, they should know that there are safe non-drug treatments that can help boost serotonin levels. In the March 2002 issue of Real Health Breakthroughs, William Campbell Douglass, M.D., recommended these supplements that may promote the production of serotonin: biotin, magnesium, vitamins B-1, B-3, B-6, and B-12. Moderate daily exposure to sunshine has also been shown to stimulate serotonin production. For a comprehensive overview of natural ways to treat MS, HSI has prepared a special report titled "Underground Cures: What Your Doctor Won't Tell You About Multiple Sclerosis." Compiled with the input of experts on the HSI Advisory Panel, this report offers details on alternative treatments that have provided answers for many MS patients. ....and another thing It sounds odd, but there just might be something to it: The length of your limbs might help predict risk of Alzheimer's disease (AD). Previous research has suggested a link between shorter arm spans and knee heights to increased risk of developing dementia. The theory: Poor nutrition in early life may have a simultaneous impact on future dementia risk and limb length. Researchers at Johns Hopkins and the USDA Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging investigated this link with a study that followed nearly 2,800 elderly subjects for about five years. Results: In women, greater arm span and knee height were linked to lower risk of dementia and AD Women with the shortest arm spans were about 1.5 times more likely to develop dementia and AD compared to women with the longest arm spans In men, short arm span was the only limb measurement linked to lower dementia and AD risk If future research continues to confirm these findings, doctors will have another measure by which to predict possible dementia in their patients. Meanwhile, the nutrition you choose today may have a profound impact on your AD risk tomorrow. You can find tips for keeping your brain healthy and sharp in the e-Alert "Brain Boosters" (10/24/05). To Your Good Health, Jenny Thompson Sources: "Effects of Fluoxetine on Disease Activity in Relapsing and Multiple Sclerosis: A Double-blind, Placebo-Controlled, Exploratory Study" Journal of Neurology Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, Published online ahead of print 5/1/08, jnnp.bmj.com "Knee Height and Arm Span – A Reflection of Early Life environment and Risk of Dementia" Vol. 70, No. 19, Pt. 2, 5/6/08, Neurology, neurology.org  NOTE from ME: some foods help build serotonin: bananas, walnuts. pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds contain l-tryptophan, an amino acid that converts to serotonin  David  In a message dated 5/23/2008 1:10:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikem07306 writes: I'm sorry if this is off topic. My friend has recently been given a provisional diagnosis of MS while tests are being done to rule out other conditions. I'm a devoted follower of this group and am anxiously awaiting receiving my order from Suderland. Gratefully, I don't have cancer myself, but I'm in my 60's and after having hepatitis A and B in my crazy youth, I'm keen on preventing liver cancer. So, if anyone has info on MS or could direct me to a site similar to this that deals with MS, I'd be very grateful. Thanks a lot. Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1461 - Release 5/22/2008 4:44 PM -- "Absolutely Drug less Health Care solution Organization" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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