Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 I don't know what his chances are w/ Oleander, but I do know that Burzynski's Antineoplastons, which passed FDA testing, have worked with people who had stage four glioblastoma. And the price is right in line with chemotherapy, so who knows, this might be the "conventional" route they'll take him. Altho, my money is on the tube up the artery in his leg to deliver chemo to the spot in his brain. Doctors love these really difficult and intrusive methods. Like astronauts, who respond better with lots of buttons to push, even when they do nothing but give the astronauts buttons to push. David In a message dated 5/20/2008 5:18:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, luellamay129 writes: Unfortunately, from listening to the news reports, it looks like he will be turning to the hand that has been feeding him all along. Tony has contacted his office. One can only hope that somebody receiving that email has an open mind and contacts Tony.He contacted Elizabeth Edwards a while back with regard to her cancer to no avail.This is so very sad. Looks like Big Pharma has everyone in their grasp. EVERYONE.Hugs,Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Tony, If there is anyone here on this board that has the ability to contact anyone in the Kennedy family, I think it would be a great thing if he was made aware of options for his malignant glioma, and most specifically for the use of oleander soup and/or Sutherlandia OPC and/or Anvirzel. He is terminally ill, so he has nothing to loose and everything to gain. Of course, there are many other things he should be doing, but that is probably beyond our ability to change. One thing I've learned over the years.. the more aggressive the tumor, the more quickly it responds to therapy. Bob - " Tony " <oleander soup > Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:24 AM [!! SPAM] Antioxidants, oxygen and cancer > The way I understand it, antioxidants scavange already present free > radicals and thus prevent cell damaging oxidation which the free > radicals would otherwise ause, but the antioxidants do not block > oxygen which is not generated by free radicals. > > However, here is the rub - the oxygenation caused by free radicals is > likely a key factor in cancer cell death (apoptosis) and thus some > believe that anti-oxidants may actually contribute to cancerous > growths in people who already have cancer or whose DNA has become > altered and in a pre-cancerous state. In which case, it may be best > for people who are relatively healthy to take anti-oxidants as a > cancer preventive and overall health booster, but people who are > cancerous or perhaps pre-cancerous would be better off avoiding > excessive anti-oxidants. > > Confusing isn't it? > > The bottom line to me is that if a person follows my suggested > anti-cancer protocol, which includes both added oxygen via > supplementation and the raw fruits and vegetables, along with healthy > antioxidants, the overall effect of the oxygen and antioxidants is > moot because the protocol works, and works better than anything else I > am aware of. > > > > oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " > <drlanphier wrote: >> >> Sorry. I hit send before I was finished with my last post. :-) >> >> >> >> I also notice on the Better Than Budwig page the statement below (in > black). >> If someone is oxygenating the body in order to get rid of disease > they do >> not need high levels antioxidants to counter-act the oxygenation. > This is a >> myth and people who believe this, usually, will not see good > results. For >> instance, I recommend a stabilized oxygen product for cleansing the >> digestive tract. It works great, people get relief from > constipation, feel >> good and it heals the digestive tract. Some competitors have come > up with >> basically the same product BUT have added large amounts Vitamin C to the >> mixture as an anti-oxidant which cancels out the benefits of the oxygen. >> People don't understand this but instead think they are inhibiting > any harm >> from the oxygen. Of course the magnesium in the product will help to >> produce an " effect " , but the people are not getting the benefit of > released >> oxygen. How do I know? Because we tested the products through > titration >> and there was no oxygen release whatsoever - none. Yet these companies >> advertise that oxygen is being released. Our bodies are basically > oxygen >> deficient because most people do not eat enough raw fruits and > vegetables >> which are actually oxygen-rich and because the hydrogenated oils > that we eat >> are not conducive for enhancing oxygen in the body. We have been > made to >> fear oxygen and ozone which is O3, just like we have been made to > fear the >> sun. Oxygen heals. >> >> >> >> wonderful omega-3 oils in our bodies releases oxygen. Oxygen > oxidizes. So we >> need antioxidants. We include lemon in all these recipes because lemon >> contains vitamin C and bioflavonoids. But you could ALWAYS add a > little more >> vitamin C (complex) and a good vitamin E oil to these recipes. Your > other >> option is to get your antioxidants through supplementation. >> >> >> >> Be Well~ >> >> Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH >> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/> www.oawhealth.com >> Sign-up for our FREE <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/newsletter/> >> Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi Bob, Thank you for your lovely sentiments. However, Tony has already contacted his office. Hugs, oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: > > Tony, > > If there is anyone here on this board that has the ability to contact > anyone in the Kennedy family, I think it would be a great thing if he was > made aware of options for his malignant glioma, and most specifically for > the use of oleander soup and/or Sutherlandia OPC and/or Anvirzel. He is > terminally ill, so he has nothing to loose and everything to gain. Of > course, there are many other things he should be doing, but that is probably > beyond our ability to change. One thing I've learned over the years.. the > more aggressive the tumor, the more quickly it responds to therapy. > > Bob > - > " Tony " > <oleander soup > > Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:24 AM > [!! SPAM] Antioxidants, oxygen and cancer > > > > The way I understand it, antioxidants scavange already present free > > radicals and thus prevent cell damaging oxidation which the free > > radicals would otherwise ause, but the antioxidants do not block > > oxygen which is not generated by free radicals. > > > > However, here is the rub - the oxygenation caused by free radicals is > > likely a key factor in cancer cell death (apoptosis) and thus some > > believe that anti-oxidants may actually contribute to cancerous > > growths in people who already have cancer or whose DNA has become > > altered and in a pre-cancerous state. In which case, it may be best > > for people who are relatively healthy to take anti-oxidants as a > > cancer preventive and overall health booster, but people who are > > cancerous or perhaps pre-cancerous would be better off avoiding > > excessive anti-oxidants. > > > > Confusing isn't it? > > > > The bottom line to me is that if a person follows my suggested > > anti-cancer protocol, which includes both added oxygen via > > supplementation and the raw fruits and vegetables, along with healthy > > antioxidants, the overall effect of the oxygen and antioxidants is > > moot because the protocol works, and works better than anything else I > > am aware of. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " > > <drlanphier@> wrote: > >> > >> Sorry. I hit send before I was finished with my last post. :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> I also notice on the Better Than Budwig page the statement below (in > > black). > >> If someone is oxygenating the body in order to get rid of disease > > they do > >> not need high levels antioxidants to counter-act the oxygenation. > > This is a > >> myth and people who believe this, usually, will not see good > > results. For > >> instance, I recommend a stabilized oxygen product for cleansing the > >> digestive tract. It works great, people get relief from > > constipation, feel > >> good and it heals the digestive tract. Some competitors have come > > up with > >> basically the same product BUT have added large amounts Vitamin C to the > >> mixture as an anti-oxidant which cancels out the benefits of the oxygen. > >> People don't understand this but instead think they are inhibiting > > any harm > >> from the oxygen. Of course the magnesium in the product will help to > >> produce an " effect " , but the people are not getting the benefit of > > released > >> oxygen. How do I know? Because we tested the products through > > titration > >> and there was no oxygen release whatsoever - none. Yet these companies > >> advertise that oxygen is being released. Our bodies are basically > > oxygen > >> deficient because most people do not eat enough raw fruits and > > vegetables > >> which are actually oxygen-rich and because the hydrogenated oils > > that we eat > >> are not conducive for enhancing oxygen in the body. We have been > > made to > >> fear oxygen and ozone which is O3, just like we have been made to > > fear the > >> sun. Oxygen heals. > >> > >> > >> > >> wonderful omega-3 oils in our bodies releases oxygen. Oxygen > > oxidizes. So we > >> need antioxidants. We include lemon in all these recipes because lemon > >> contains vitamin C and bioflavonoids. But you could ALWAYS add a > > little more > >> vitamin C (complex) and a good vitamin E oil to these recipes. Your > > other > >> option is to get your antioxidants through supplementation. > >> > >> > >> > >> Be Well~ > >> > >> Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH > >> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/> www.oawhealth.com > >> Sign-up for our FREE <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/newsletter/> > >> Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter > >> > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 This brain tumor is Karma. Ted Kennedy is/has been one of the biggest shills in Congress for Big Pharma, and now his life is on the line...will he turn to the hand that has been feeding him or will he seek the alternative lifesaving path? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:02 PM, bbanever <bbanever wrote: Tony, If there is anyone here on this board that has the ability to contactanyone in the Kennedy family, I think it would be a great thing if he was made aware of options for his malignant glioma, and most specifically forthe use of oleander soup and/or Sutherlandia OPC and/or Anvirzel. He isterminally ill, so he has nothing to loose and everything to gain. Of course, there are many other things he should be doing, but that is probablybeyond our ability to change. One thing I've learned over the years.. themore aggressive the tumor, the more quickly it responds to therapy. Bob- " Tony " <oleander soup > Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:24 AM[!! SPAM] Antioxidants, oxygen and cancer> The way I understand it, antioxidants scavange already present free> radicals and thus prevent cell damaging oxidation which the free > radicals would otherwise ause, but the antioxidants do not block> oxygen which is not generated by free radicals.>> However, here is the rub - the oxygenation caused by free radicals is> likely a key factor in cancer cell death (apoptosis) and thus some > believe that anti-oxidants may actually contribute to cancerous> growths in people who already have cancer or whose DNA has become> altered and in a pre-cancerous state. In which case, it may be best > for people who are relatively healthy to take anti-oxidants as a> cancer preventive and overall health booster, but people who are> cancerous or perhaps pre-cancerous would be better off avoiding> excessive anti-oxidants. >> Confusing isn't it?>> The bottom line to me is that if a person follows my suggested> anti-cancer protocol, which includes both added oxygen via> supplementation and the raw fruits and vegetables, along with healthy > antioxidants, the overall effect of the oxygen and antioxidants is> moot because the protocol works, and works better than anything else I> am aware of.>> Tony>> oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " > <drlanphier wrote:>>>> Sorry. I hit send before I was finished with my last post. :-)>>>>>>>> I also notice on the Better Than Budwig page the statement below (in > black).>> If someone is oxygenating the body in order to get rid of disease> they do>> not need high levels antioxidants to counter-act the oxygenation.> This is a>> myth and people who believe this, usually, will not see good > results. For>> instance, I recommend a stabilized oxygen product for cleansing the>> digestive tract. It works great, people get relief from> constipation, feel>> good and it heals the digestive tract. Some competitors have come > up with>> basically the same product BUT have added large amounts Vitamin C to the>> mixture as an anti-oxidant which cancels out the benefits of the oxygen.>> People don't understand this but instead think they are inhibiting > any harm>> from the oxygen. Of course the magnesium in the product will help to>> produce an " effect " , but the people are not getting the benefit of> released>> oxygen. How do I know? Because we tested the products through > titration>> and there was no oxygen release whatsoever - none. Yet these companies>> advertise that oxygen is being released. Our bodies are basically> oxygen>> deficient because most people do not eat enough raw fruits and > vegetables>> which are actually oxygen-rich and because the hydrogenated oils> that we eat>> are not conducive for enhancing oxygen in the body. We have been> made to>> fear oxygen and ozone which is O3, just like we have been made to > fear the>> sun. Oxygen heals.>>>>>>>> wonderful omega-3 oils in our bodies releases oxygen. Oxygen> oxidizes. So we>> need antioxidants. We include lemon in all these recipes because lemon >> contains vitamin C and bioflavonoids. But you could ALWAYS add a> little more>> vitamin C (complex) and a good vitamin E oil to these recipes. Your> other>> option is to get your antioxidants through supplementation. >>>>>>>> Be Well~>>>> Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH>> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/> www.oawhealth.com >> Sign-up for our FREE <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/newsletter/>>> Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter >>>>>> --->> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Unfortunately, from listening to the news reports, it looks like he will be turning to the hand that has been feeding him all along. Tony has contacted his office. One can only hope that somebody receiving that email has an open mind and contacts Tony. He contacted Elizabeth Edwards a while back with regard to her cancer to no avail. This is so very sad. Looks like Big Pharma has everyone in their grasp. EVERYONE. Hugs, oleander soup , " Elaine Nichols " <moondancermom wrote: > > This brain tumor is Karma. Ted Kennedy is/has been one of the biggest shills > in Congress for Big Pharma, and now his life is on the line...will he turn > to the hand that has been feeding him or will he seek the alternative > lifesaving path? > > > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:02 PM, bbanever <bbanever wrote: > > > Tony, > > > > If there is anyone here on this board that has the ability to contact > > anyone in the Kennedy family, I think it would be a great thing if he was > > made aware of options for his malignant glioma, and most specifically for > > the use of oleander soup and/or Sutherlandia OPC and/or Anvirzel. He is > > terminally ill, so he has nothing to loose and everything to gain. Of > > course, there are many other things he should be doing, but that is > > probably > > beyond our ability to change. One thing I've learned over the years.. > > the > > more aggressive the tumor, the more quickly it responds to therapy. > > > > Bob > > - > > " Tony " > > <oleander soup > > > Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:24 AM > > [!! SPAM] Antioxidants, oxygen and cancer > > > > > > > The way I understand it, antioxidants scavange already present free > > > radicals and thus prevent cell damaging oxidation which the free > > > radicals would otherwise ause, but the antioxidants do not block > > > oxygen which is not generated by free radicals. > > > > > > However, here is the rub - the oxygenation caused by free radicals is > > > likely a key factor in cancer cell death (apoptosis) and thus some > > > believe that anti-oxidants may actually contribute to cancerous > > > growths in people who already have cancer or whose DNA has become > > > altered and in a pre-cancerous state. In which case, it may be best > > > for people who are relatively healthy to take anti-oxidants as a > > > cancer preventive and overall health booster, but people who are > > > cancerous or perhaps pre-cancerous would be better off avoiding > > > excessive anti-oxidants. > > > > > > Confusing isn't it? > > > > > > The bottom line to me is that if a person follows my suggested > > > anti-cancer protocol, which includes both added oxygen via > > > supplementation and the raw fruits and vegetables, along with healthy > > > antioxidants, the overall effect of the oxygen and antioxidants is > > > moot because the protocol works, and works better than anything else I > > > am aware of. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " > > > <drlanphier@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Sorry. I hit send before I was finished with my last post. :-) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I also notice on the Better Than Budwig page the statement below (in > > > black). > > >> If someone is oxygenating the body in order to get rid of disease > > > they do > > >> not need high levels antioxidants to counter-act the oxygenation. > > > This is a > > >> myth and people who believe this, usually, will not see good > > > results. For > > >> instance, I recommend a stabilized oxygen product for cleansing the > > >> digestive tract. It works great, people get relief from > > > constipation, feel > > >> good and it heals the digestive tract. Some competitors have come > > > up with > > >> basically the same product BUT have added large amounts Vitamin C to the > > >> mixture as an anti-oxidant which cancels out the benefits of the oxygen. > > >> People don't understand this but instead think they are inhibiting > > > any harm > > >> from the oxygen. Of course the magnesium in the product will help to > > >> produce an " effect " , but the people are not getting the benefit of > > > released > > >> oxygen. How do I know? Because we tested the products through > > > titration > > >> and there was no oxygen release whatsoever - none. Yet these companies > > >> advertise that oxygen is being released. Our bodies are basically > > > oxygen > > >> deficient because most people do not eat enough raw fruits and > > > vegetables > > >> which are actually oxygen-rich and because the hydrogenated oils > > > that we eat > > >> are not conducive for enhancing oxygen in the body. We have been > > > made to > > >> fear oxygen and ozone which is O3, just like we have been made to > > > fear the > > >> sun. Oxygen heals. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> wonderful omega-3 oils in our bodies releases oxygen. Oxygen > > > oxidizes. So we > > >> need antioxidants. We include lemon in all these recipes because lemon > > >> contains vitamin C and bioflavonoids. But you could ALWAYS add a > > > little more > > >> vitamin C (complex) and a good vitamin E oil to these recipes. Your > > > other > > >> option is to get your antioxidants through supplementation. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Be Well~ > > >> > > >> Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH > > >> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/> www.oawhealth.com > > >> Sign-up for our FREE <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/newsletter/ > > > > > >> Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I hear you, on the one hand - but on the other would it not be wonderful, besides saving a life, for him to be cured by alternative means such as oleander? He is not my favorite Kennedy, that is for sure. But ahhh, a little bitty piece of me died along with his brothers John and Bobby . . . . oleander soup , " Elaine Nichols " <moondancermom wrote: > > This brain tumor is Karma. Ted Kennedy is/has been one of the biggest shills > in Congress for Big Pharma, and now his life is on the line...will he turn > to the hand that has been feeding him or will he seek the alternative > lifesaving path? > > > > > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:02 PM, bbanever <bbanever wrote: > > > Tony, > > > > If there is anyone here on this board that has the ability to contact > > anyone in the Kennedy family, I think it would be a great thing if he was > > made aware of options for his malignant glioma, and most specifically for > > the use of oleander soup and/or Sutherlandia OPC and/or Anvirzel. He is > > terminally ill, so he has nothing to loose and everything to gain. Of > > course, there are many other things he should be doing, but that is > > probably > > beyond our ability to change. One thing I've learned over the years.. > > the > > more aggressive the tumor, the more quickly it responds to therapy. > > > > Bob > > - > > " Tony " > > <oleander soup > > > Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:24 AM > > [!! SPAM] Antioxidants, oxygen and cancer > > > > > > > The way I understand it, antioxidants scavange already present free > > > radicals and thus prevent cell damaging oxidation which the free > > > radicals would otherwise ause, but the antioxidants do not block > > > oxygen which is not generated by free radicals. > > > > > > However, here is the rub - the oxygenation caused by free radicals is > > > likely a key factor in cancer cell death (apoptosis) and thus some > > > believe that anti-oxidants may actually contribute to cancerous > > > growths in people who already have cancer or whose DNA has become > > > altered and in a pre-cancerous state. In which case, it may be best > > > for people who are relatively healthy to take anti-oxidants as a > > > cancer preventive and overall health booster, but people who are > > > cancerous or perhaps pre-cancerous would be better off avoiding > > > excessive anti-oxidants. > > > > > > Confusing isn't it? > > > > > > The bottom line to me is that if a person follows my suggested > > > anti-cancer protocol, which includes both added oxygen via > > > supplementation and the raw fruits and vegetables, along with healthy > > > antioxidants, the overall effect of the oxygen and antioxidants is > > > moot because the protocol works, and works better than anything else I > > > am aware of. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " > > > <drlanphier@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Sorry. I hit send before I was finished with my last post. :-) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I also notice on the Better Than Budwig page the statement below (in > > > black). > > >> If someone is oxygenating the body in order to get rid of disease > > > they do > > >> not need high levels antioxidants to counter-act the oxygenation. > > > This is a > > >> myth and people who believe this, usually, will not see good > > > results. For > > >> instance, I recommend a stabilized oxygen product for cleansing the > > >> digestive tract. It works great, people get relief from > > > constipation, feel > > >> good and it heals the digestive tract. Some competitors have come > > > up with > > >> basically the same product BUT have added large amounts Vitamin C to the > > >> mixture as an anti-oxidant which cancels out the benefits of the oxygen. > > >> People don't understand this but instead think they are inhibiting > > > any harm > > >> from the oxygen. Of course the magnesium in the product will help to > > >> produce an " effect " , but the people are not getting the benefit of > > > released > > >> oxygen. How do I know? Because we tested the products through > > > titration > > >> and there was no oxygen release whatsoever - none. Yet these companies > > >> advertise that oxygen is being released. Our bodies are basically > > > oxygen > > >> deficient because most people do not eat enough raw fruits and > > > vegetables > > >> which are actually oxygen-rich and because the hydrogenated oils > > > that we eat > > >> are not conducive for enhancing oxygen in the body. We have been > > > made to > > >> fear oxygen and ozone which is O3, just like we have been made to > > > fear the > > >> sun. Oxygen heals. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> wonderful omega-3 oils in our bodies releases oxygen. Oxygen > > > oxidizes. So we > > >> need antioxidants. We include lemon in all these recipes because lemon > > >> contains vitamin C and bioflavonoids. But you could ALWAYS add a > > > little more > > >> vitamin C (complex) and a good vitamin E oil to these recipes. Your > > > other > > >> option is to get your antioxidants through supplementation. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Be Well~ > > >> > > >> Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH > > >> <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/> www.oawhealth.com > > >> Sign-up for our FREE <http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/newsletter/ > > > > > >> Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 If it were me and I had the finest doctors in the entire world at my disposal, I would choose oleander, along with inositol/IP6 and the rest of my anti-cancer protocol. Oleander crosses the blood brain barrier and some of the earliest and most impressive successes by Doc Ozel were against brain cancers (childhood brain cancers in fact). oleander soup , ahzoov wrote: > > I don't know what his chances are w/ Oleander, but I do know that > Burzynski's Antineoplastons, which passed FDA testing, have worked with people who had > stage four glioblastoma. And the price is right in line with chemotherapy, so > who knows, this might be the " conventional " route they'll take him. Altho, > my money is on the tube up the artery in his leg to deliver chemo to the spot > in his brain. Doctors love these really difficult and intrusive methods. Like > astronauts, who respond better with lots of buttons to push, even when they > do nothing but give the astronauts buttons to push. > > David > > > > In a message dated 5/20/2008 5:18:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > luellamay129 writes: > > Unfortunately, from listening to the news reports, it looks like he > will be turning to the hand that has been feeding him all along. > > Tony has contacted his office. One can only hope that somebody > receiving that email has an open mind and contacts Tony. > > He contacted Elizabeth Edwards a while back with regard to her cancer > to no avail. > > This is so very sad. Looks like Big Pharma has everyone in their > grasp. EVERYONE. > > Hugs, > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 In a message dated 5/21/2008 12:53:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, firefly541 writes: can see with their eyes that I'm thriving. the two years that I've done better with alternatives than with oncologists Hey Rhoda, Would you share a little bit about your health regimen ? EdithGet trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Looks like Big Pharma has everyone in their grasp. EVERYONE.Not everyone! Not us!My sad personal experience is that it takes a very special mindset to go against conventional medicine, even when relatives and friends KNOW they are dying, and can see with their eyes that I'm thriving. the two years that I've done better with alternatives than with oncologists, several relatives and good friends have died. The most disheartening is in my immediate family. My husband's daughter (first wife) was diagnosed with the same ovarian cancer that I have, after I switched to Budwig. The whole family could see how I was thriving, while she never achieved even a remission from chemo and surgery. The last times I saw that family, she knew she was on palliative chemo and was dying, but wouldn't look at me, much less ask. My husband was ill for months, and died shortly after a biopsy to be sure that what he had was mesotheiloma (asbestos-related lung cancer) just over three months ago. He fully supported my choices, but would not take them for himself. You can lead a mule to water, but you can't make him drink!Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Bless your heart Rhoda. I am so sorry about the loss of your husband. Your experience is a common one. I have friends and family who have also obeyed their doctor, obeyed them even unto death, and that is nothing short of heartbreaking. And yes, this is after they have seen what natural alternatives have done for me. You are right, opting for natural healing does take a special mindset. Maybe we beat to a different drum? Well, that's a good thing. We seem to grasp the truth where others cannot see it and continue blindly in their quest for health through conventional medicine, yet never attaining it. Yet, though heartbreaking as it is, we must not be discouraged (yeah, easier said than done, I know). Still loving them, we must continue on our path, doing what we do, and helping those who truly seek for an answer. You said it....... Not us! Hugs, oleander soup , " Rhoda Mead " <firefly541 wrote: > > Looks like Big Pharma has everyone in their grasp. EVERYONE. > > Not everyone! Not us! > > My sad personal experience is that it takes a very special mindset to go > against conventional medicine, even when relatives and friends KNOW they are > dying, and can see with their eyes that I'm thriving. the two years that > I've done better with alternatives than with oncologists, several relatives > and good friends have died. The most disheartening is in my immediate > family. > My husband's daughter (first wife) was diagnosed with the same ovarian > cancer that I have, after I switched to Budwig. The whole family could see > how I was thriving, while she never achieved even a remission from chemo and > surgery. The last times I saw that family, she knew she was on palliative > chemo and was dying, but wouldn't look at me, much less ask. My husband was > ill for months, and died shortly after a biopsy to be sure that what he had > was mesotheiloma (asbestos-related lung cancer) just over three months ago. > He fully supported my choices, but would not take them for himself. > > You can lead a mule to water, but you can't make him drink! > > Rhoda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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