Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks for your input, Bill. Now, would you please share with the group your own success with oleander? Thanks! oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins wrote: > > To all concerned, > I personally tried the budwig diet for 3 months. It tasted great, but my gist tumor grew from 7.6 to 9.7 cm during that time. I would not recommend anyone to solely depend on the budwig diet. I even got the correct cheese recommended as a dairy in Davis California produced it. > Bill Wilkins > > - > md29again > oleander soup > 2008-05-18 16:25 > Re: The " key people " at the Budwig group are wrong! > > > > Hi... > > Dr. Budwig may have used unprocessed cottage cheese in Germany and that could have made a big difference in her achieving better results. > > -Mary 970-282-8551 > > In a message dated 5/18/2008 12:27:42 PM Mountain Daylight Time, writes: > I don't know who the " key members " in the Budwig Group are, or their > experiences or qualifications, but I personally will venture that they > are out to lunch unless they provide specific information to change my > mind. Certainly the flaxseed and cottage cheese/yogurt part of the > Budwig diet (and that is the part I recommend highest) is completely > compatible with oleander. Perhaps there are other elements they think > might not match up? > > I have great respect for the Budwig diet (or at least the key elements > of it) and it has been a part of my recommendations from day one. The > makers of Anvirzel vouch for it's compatibility with oleander, as does > MD Anderson lead research scientist Dr. Robert Newman, and so does > Marc Swanepoel (who formulated the Sutherlandia OPC). > > Add the flaxseed and cottage cheese/yogurt part to the natural > anti-cancer protocol I have posted will give you a very good cancer > fighting and cancer beating protocol - one that better and more > practical than the Budwig Diet alone. > > A lot of groups seem to be overly protective and overly zealous of > their own protocols - maintaining that they must be followed to the > letter or else (and on " or else " sometimes is that it gives them an > out when the protocol fails!) while rejecting compatibility with other > protocols. > > I understand - I am a bit the same way when it comes to oleander and > the things I recommend. However, I have always recommended a > multi-element approach. And besides, I KNOW that oleander and the > rest of the protocol works. > > I have seen the same attitude with Essaic (NOT a strong standalone > cancer treatment, despite the protests of the ardent followers)and a > number of other groups, as well as with groups like the fanatic > followers of the supreme huckster Trudeau (who knows very little about > natural health, but a whole lot about hype and relieving people of > their money) and the stinky breathed Atkins diet folks (NOT a healthy > diet, regardless of the hype and apologists). > > OK - off my soapbox. Tell those " key people " to put up and tell us > specifically why they believe there is any compatibility or else take > another look! > > > > oleander soup , " Duane Christensen " > <duanechristensen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi Tony and group. today i went to the health shop to buy some powder magnesium ( magnisium chloride ) witch they dint have, so they invice me to take EPSOM SALT my question is, is this correct? regards Mary - Tony oleander soup Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:34 AM Thanks Bill - another oleander success story Thanks for your input, Bill. Now, would you please share with thegroup your own success with oleander?Thanks!Tonyoleander soup , "Bill" <w.wilkins wrote:>> To all concerned,> I personally tried the budwig diet for 3 months. It tasted great,but my gist tumor grew from 7.6 to 9.7 cm during that time. I wouldnot recommend anyone to solely depend on the budwig diet. I even gotthe correct cheese recommended as a dairy in Davis California produced it.> Bill Wilkins> > - > md29again > oleander soup > 2008-05-18 16:25> Re: The "key people" at the Budwig groupare wrong!> > > > Hi...> > Dr. Budwig may have used unprocessed cottage cheese in Germany andthat could have made a big difference in her achieving better results. > > -Mary 970-282-8551 > > In a message dated 5/18/2008 12:27:42 PM Mountain Daylight Time, writes:> I don't know who the "key members" in the Budwig Group are, or their> experiences or qualifications, but I personally will venturethat they> are out to lunch unless they provide specific information tochange my> mind. Certainly the flaxseed and cottage cheese/yogurt part of the> Budwig diet (and that is the part I recommend highest) is completely> compatible with oleander. Perhaps there are other elements theythink> might not match up?> > I have great respect for the Budwig diet (or at least the keyelements> of it) and it has been a part of my recommendations from dayone. The> makers of Anvirzel vouch for it's compatibility with oleander,as does> MD Anderson lead research scientist Dr. Robert Newman, and so does> Marc Swanepoel (who formulated the Sutherlandia OPC).> > Add the flaxseed and cottage cheese/yogurt part to the natural> anti-cancer protocol I have posted will give you a very good cancer> fighting and cancer beating protocol - one that better and more> practical than the Budwig Diet alone.> > A lot of groups seem to be overly protective and overly zealous of> their own protocols - maintaining that they must be followed to the> letter or else (and on "or else" sometimes is that it gives them an> out when the protocol fails!) while rejecting compatibility withother> protocols.> > I understand - I am a bit the same way when it comes to oleander and> the things I recommend. However, I have always recommended a> multi-element approach. And besides, I KNOW that oleander and the> rest of the protocol works.> > I have seen the same attitude with Essaic (NOT a strong standalone> cancer treatment, despite the protests of the ardent followers)and a> number of other groups, as well as with groups like the fanatic> followers of the supreme huckster Trudeau (who knows very littleabout> natural health, but a whole lot about hype and relieving people of> their money) and the stinky breathed Atkins diet folks (NOT ahealthy> diet, regardless of the hype and apologists).> > OK - off my soapbox. Tell those "key people" to put up and tell us> specifically why they believe there is any compatibility or elsetake> another look!> > Tony> > oleander soup , "Duane Christensen"> <duanechristensen@> wrote:> >> > > > > > > > >-------------------------> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on familyfavorites at AOL Food.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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