Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hello everyone, My husband is hiv and hepc coinfected and has been for about 25 years, he has known about his infection for almost 15 years and was started immediately on monotherapy AZT and has since taken everything mainstream medicicine has thrown his way including HAART, peg interferon and ribafarin (the latter combination was hell and didn't work). He has never had an aids defining illness and his cd4 progressed from below 50 to around 400 and his viral load from 180K to 18k. So all though he is resistant to most HIV treatment his treatment was still working. Last month his liver started to play up and his doctors suspended all medication. This was a wakeup call for us to step up the complementary alternative supplements and to take a good look at what else to use. He has already started on Essiac which he is taking with Milk Thistle, Clamath Algae probiotics and digestive enzymes supplements and standard Clamath Algae. I am also wondering if colloidal silver fits in anywhere in this regime ? ... We are just setting up our Setcom account to arrange for our first order of Sutherlandia OPC with Marc says we can add to the things he is already doing (essiac, milk thistle, etc.). Anyone else out there using OPC for HIV or HEPC? Any parents out there - I am wondering if and when to tell our children about their father's problems. I think it is a little early now (they are 9 and 11) but any tips would be welcome. Hope I haven't put too much info in this and bored you all. Look forward to hearing from any of you. Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hi Nelly, First of all, you are in no way boring us and we are here for all of your concerns. I think that what you are doing is great and the fact that Marc has okayed it gives you a green light. I believe you will be pleased at your husband's progress when taking the supplements from Sutherlandia. I wish you and your husband all the best. About when to tell your kids..... That is a tough one. You know your kids and their level of maturity better than anyone. If you feel, they are not ready for this, or are in any way hesitant, my way of handling such situations is by answering questions as they come up. Hope I have helped. Hugs, oleander soup , " nellycave " <nellycave wrote: > > Hello everyone, > My husband is hiv and hepc coinfected and has been for about 25 > years, he has known about his infection for almost 15 years and was > started immediately on monotherapy AZT and has since taken everything > mainstream medicicine has thrown his way including HAART, peg > interferon and ribafarin (the latter combination was hell and didn't > work). He has never had an aids defining illness and his cd4 > progressed from below 50 to around 400 and his viral load from 180K > to 18k. So all though he is resistant to most HIV treatment his > treatment was still working. > Last month his liver started to play up and his doctors suspended all > medication. > This was a wakeup call for us to step up the complementary > alternative supplements and to take a good look at what else to use. > He has already started on Essiac which he is taking with Milk > Thistle, Clamath Algae probiotics and digestive enzymes supplements > and standard Clamath Algae. I am also wondering if colloidal silver > fits in anywhere in this regime ? ... > We are just setting up our Setcom account to arrange for our first > order of Sutherlandia OPC with Marc says we can add to the things he > is already doing (essiac, milk thistle, etc.). > Anyone else out there using OPC for HIV or HEPC? > Any parents out there - I am wondering if and when to tell our > children about their father's problems. I think it is a little early > now (they are 9 and 11) but any tips would be welcome. > Hope I haven't put too much info in this and bored you all. > Look forward to hearing from any of you. > Nelly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Hello Nellie. There is a list on Colloidal Silver that will give you good information. Unfortunately it does not have archives, but if you ask your question, I am sure you will get information. I have read that CS is effective against both HIV and HEPC. Here is the link to join: http://silverlist.org/ Here is a message on HIV from the list: Dear cs list members, just wanted to let you know that I have been treating a young single mother who has HIV ( given to her by her charming lover who knew he had the disease and who has consequently given it to three other women ) with a litre a week of 10 ppm cs for the last six months. She immediately began to feel more energetic and her periods became regular for the first time in ages. To begin with her CD4 ( immune system) was at 250 but improved to 371 within a month of taking cs. Last week she received an HIV test which revealed her CD4 was up to 415 ( " normal " people are around 450 ) but her viral load is now zero. There is no trace of HIV left in her body !! I suspect colloidal silver is going to take a severe bashing after the Oprah program but let none of us forget that with properly made cs , we have a truly magical medicine at our disposal that is safe enough to put in the eye of a child and yet is capable of killing off the Hiv virus - as well as hundreds of other ailments. Do we know no one , collectively, who can beg, borrow or steal $ 10,000,000 to prove and test it beyond reasonable doubt ?! thanks - Richard Richard Atkinson XXI century silver s. l. ra tel: +34 67 67 31 411 Gene At 03:44 PM 5/18/2008, you wrote: Hello everyone, My husband is hiv and hepc coinfected and has been for about 25 years, he has known about his infection for almost 15 years and was started immediately on monotherapy AZT and has since taken everything mainstream medicicine has thrown his way including HAART, peg interferon and ribafarin (the latter combination was hell and didn't work). He has never had an aids defining illness and his cd4 progressed from below 50 to around 400 and his viral load from 180K to 18k. So all though he is resistant to most HIV treatment his treatment was still working. Last month his liver started to play up and his doctors suspended all medication. This was a wakeup call for us to step up the complementary alternative supplements and to take a good look at what else to use. He has already started on Essiac which he is taking with Milk Thistle, Clamath Algae probiotics and digestive enzymes supplements and standard Clamath Algae. I am also wondering if colloidal silver fits in anywhere in this regime ? ... We are just setting up our Setcom account to arrange for our first order of Sutherlandia OPC with Marc says we can add to the things he is already doing (essiac, milk thistle, etc.). Anyone else out there using OPC for HIV or HEPC? Any parents out there - I am wondering if and when to tell our children about their father's problems. I think it is a little early now (they are 9 and 11) but any tips would be welcome. Hope I haven't put too much info in this and bored you all. Look forward to hearing from any of you. Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 Thank you Gene! And for your convenience, I am going to mention that Tony represents Utopia Silver Any members of this group can get a 15% discounted price by entering Code LR001, as long as the item is not on sale. Actually, this is true for all supplements. However, I think they may be giving one free bottle to any new customer. And I will spare you with my dissertation of my personal love for Utopia Silver colloidal silver. I have done this so many times. If you want to read my testimony, I think I did a post just a couple of days ago. Hugs, Luell oleander soup , Gene Wolfe <genew wrote:>> Hello Nellie.> > There is a list on Colloidal Silver that will give you good > information. Unfortunately it does not have archives, but if you ask > your question, I am sure you will get information. I have read that > CS is effective against both HIV and HEPC. Here is the link to join: > http://silverlist.org/> > Here is a message on HIV from the list:> > Dear cs list members, just wanted to let you know that I have been > treating a young single mother who has HIV ( given to her by her > charming lover who knew he had the disease and who has consequently > given it to three other women ) with a litre a week of 10 ppm cs for > the last six months. She immediately began to feel more energetic and > her periods became regular for the first time in ages. To begin with > her CD4 ( immune system) was at 250 but improved to 371 within a > month of taking cs. Last week she received an HIV test which revealed > her CD4 was up to 415 ( "normal" people are around 450 ) but her > viral load is now zero. There is no trace of HIV left in her body > !! I suspect colloidal silver is going to take a severe bashing > after the Oprah program but let none of us forget that with properly > made cs , we have a truly magical medicine at our disposal that is > safe enough to put in the eye of a child and yet is capable of > killing off the Hiv virus - as well as hundreds of other ailments. Do > we know no one , collectively, who can beg, borrow or steal $ > 10,000,000 to prove and test it beyond reasonable doubt ?! thanks - Richard> > > Richard Atkinson> XXI century silver s. l.> <rara tel: +34 67 67 31 411> > Gene> > > At 03:44 PM 5/18/2008, you wrote:> > >Hello everyone,> >My husband is hiv and hepc coinfected and has been for about 25> >years, he has known about his infection for almost 15 years and was> >started immediately on monotherapy AZT and has since taken everything> >mainstream medicicine has thrown his way including HAART, peg> >interferon and ribafarin (the latter combination was hell and didn't> >work). He has never had an aids defining illness and his cd4> >progressed from below 50 to around 400 and his viral load from 180K> >to 18k. So all though he is resistant to most HIV treatment his> >treatment was still working.> >Last month his liver started to play up and his doctors suspended all> >medication.> >This was a wakeup call for us to step up the complementary> >alternative supplements and to take a good look at what else to use.> >He has already started on Essiac which he is taking with Milk> >Thistle, Clamath Algae probiotics and digestive enzymes supplements> >and standard Clamath Algae. I am also wondering if colloidal silver> >fits in anywhere in this regime ? ...> >We are just setting up our Setcom account to arrange for our first> >order of Sutherlandia OPC with Marc says we can add to the things he> >is already doing (essiac, milk thistle, etc.).> >Anyone else out there using OPC for HIV or HEPC?> >Any parents out there - I am wondering if and when to tell our> >children about their father's problems. I think it is a little early> >now (they are 9 and 11) but any tips would be welcome.> >Hope I haven't put too much info in this and bored you all.> >Look forward to hearing from any of you.> >Nelly> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Hello , Gene, Tony, and everyone else who got back to me, Thanks for the support and advice. I already ordered some colloidal silver from Higher Nature in the UK as it seemed like a good thing to have in the medicine cabinet. Will check out Utopia's site too. As I live in Europe ordering from Europe makes more sense whenever possible. I will keep you all informed on how it goes. Got my sutherlandia opc order in today. Husband will be monitored regularly by his Doctor who okayed what we are doing today. I am going to wait on talking to the girls for now. This is my first time in a group and I'm not sure if I should reply to everyone who has got back to me or if a general thank you is acceptable. Nelly oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129 wrote: > > > Hi Nelly, > > First of all, you are in no way boring us and we are here for all of > your concerns. > > I think that what you are doing is great and the fact that Marc has > okayed it gives you a green light. I believe you will be pleased at > your husband's progress when taking the supplements from Sutherlandia. > I wish you and your husband all the best. > > About when to tell your kids..... That is a tough one. > > You know your kids and their level of maturity better than anyone. > > If you feel, they are not ready for this, or are in any way hesitant, my > way of handling such situations is by answering questions as they come > up. > > Hope I have helped. > > Hugs, > > > > oleander soup , " nellycave " <nellycave@> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > My husband is hiv and hepc coinfected and has been for about 25 > > years, he has known about his infection for almost 15 years and was > > started immediately on monotherapy AZT and has since taken everything > > mainstream medicicine has thrown his way including HAART, peg > > interferon and ribafarin (the latter combination was hell and didn't > > work). He has never had an aids defining illness and his cd4 > > progressed from below 50 to around 400 and his viral load from 180K > > to 18k. So all though he is resistant to most HIV treatment his > > treatment was still working. > > Last month his liver started to play up and his doctors suspended all > > medication. > > This was a wakeup call for us to step up the complementary > > alternative supplements and to take a good look at what else to use. > > He has already started on Essiac which he is taking with Milk > > Thistle, Clamath Algae probiotics and digestive enzymes supplements > > and standard Clamath Algae. I am also wondering if colloidal silver > > fits in anywhere in this regime ? ... > > We are just setting up our Setcom account to arrange for our first > > order of Sutherlandia OPC with Marc says we can add to the things he > > is already doing (essiac, milk thistle, etc.). > > Anyone else out there using OPC for HIV or HEPC? > > Any parents out there - I am wondering if and when to tell our > > children about their father's problems. I think it is a little early > > now (they are 9 and 11) but any tips would be welcome. > > Hope I haven't put too much info in this and bored you all. > > Look forward to hearing from any of you. > > Nelly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Bless your heart Nelly, a general thank you is fine. You are very sweet. I am so glad you got the Sutherlandia supplement today! Please keep us informed. We are waiting with bated breath for the good news. Hugs, oleander soup , " nellycave " <nellycave wrote: > > Hello , Gene, Tony, and everyone else who got back to me, > > Thanks for the support and advice. I already ordered some colloidal > silver from Higher Nature in the UK as it seemed like a good thing to > have in the medicine cabinet. Will check out Utopia's site too. As I > live in Europe ordering from Europe makes more sense whenever > possible. > I will keep you all informed on how it goes. Got my sutherlandia opc > order in today. Husband will be monitored regularly by his Doctor who > okayed what we are doing today. > I am going to wait on talking to the girls for now. > This is my first time in a group and I'm not sure if I should reply > to everyone who has got back to me or if a general thank you is > acceptable. > > Nelly > > oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129@> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Nelly, > > > > First of all, you are in no way boring us and we are here for all of > > your concerns. > > > > I think that what you are doing is great and the fact that Marc has > > okayed it gives you a green light. I believe you will be pleased at > > your husband's progress when taking the supplements from > Sutherlandia. > > I wish you and your husband all the best. > > > > About when to tell your kids..... That is a tough one. > > > > You know your kids and their level of maturity better than anyone. > > > > If you feel, they are not ready for this, or are in any way > hesitant, my > > way of handling such situations is by answering questions as they > come > > up. > > > > Hope I have helped. > > > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " nellycave " <nellycave@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > My husband is hiv and hepc coinfected and has been for about 25 > > > years, he has known about his infection for almost 15 years and > was > > > started immediately on monotherapy AZT and has since taken > everything > > > mainstream medicicine has thrown his way including HAART, peg > > > interferon and ribafarin (the latter combination was hell and > didn't > > > work). He has never had an aids defining illness and his cd4 > > > progressed from below 50 to around 400 and his viral load from > 180K > > > to 18k. So all though he is resistant to most HIV treatment his > > > treatment was still working. > > > Last month his liver started to play up and his doctors suspended > all > > > medication. > > > This was a wakeup call for us to step up the complementary > > > alternative supplements and to take a good look at what else to > use. > > > He has already started on Essiac which he is taking with Milk > > > Thistle, Clamath Algae probiotics and digestive enzymes > supplements > > > and standard Clamath Algae. I am also wondering if colloidal > silver > > > fits in anywhere in this regime ? ... > > > We are just setting up our Setcom account to arrange for our first > > > order of Sutherlandia OPC with Marc says we can add to the things > he > > > is already doing (essiac, milk thistle, etc.). > > > Anyone else out there using OPC for HIV or HEPC? > > > Any parents out there - I am wondering if and when to tell our > > > children about their father's problems. I think it is a little > early > > > now (they are 9 and 11) but any tips would be welcome. > > > Hope I haven't put too much info in this and bored you all. > > > Look forward to hearing from any of you. > > > Nelly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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