Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Grape Leaves Throughout the ages, the grapevine has come to represent fertility and prosperity. A luxuriant blooming vineyard was associated with times of peace and prosperity. A desolate vineyard, choked with weeds and strewn with broken vines, was symbolic of the ravages of war. For many, the grape vine was not just the bounty of the fruitfulness of the land; it was a gift from God.Today, scientists are increasingly pointing to grape leaves for its numerous health benefits. As a powerful antioxidant it helps keep the free radicals in our bodies in check so that they don't promote too much oxidation, which can harm the walls and structure of cells, damage the genetic material inside a cell, and cause many serious diseases. An astringent, in ancient days grape leaves were used as a remedy for diarrhea and throat infections. The leaves are said to be rich in an a compound that is helps fight arthritis and cancer. Grape leaves contain resveratrol, a stress metabolite that inhibits the formation of fatty deposits in the liver. They are also a source of vinifern, an antifungal that works with resveratrol to protect the heart and cardiovascular system. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Grape leaves are good for pickling too. Boiled with other condiments, it preserves the " pickled " item retaining its crispiness. Melly oleander soup , John Palmer <beretta4408 wrote: > > Grape Leaves > Throughout the ages, the grapevine has come to represent fertility and prosperity. A luxuriant blooming vineyard was associated with times of peace and prosperity. A desolate vineyard, choked with weeds and strewn with broken vines, was symbolic of the ravages of war. For many, the grape vine was not just the bounty of the fruitfulness of the land; it was a gift from God. > Today, scientists are increasingly pointing to grape leaves for its numerous health benefits. As a powerful antioxidant it helps keep the free radicals in our bodies in check so that they don't promote too much oxidation, which can harm the walls and structure of cells, damage the genetic material inside a cell, and cause many serious diseases. An astringent, in ancient days grape leaves were used as a remedy for diarrhea and throat infections. The leaves are said to be rich in an a compound that is helps fight arthritis and cancer. Grape leaves contain resveratrol, a stress metabolite that inhibits the formation of fatty deposits in the liver. They are also a source of vinifern, an antifungal that works with resveratrol to protect the heart and cardiovascular system. > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard of them. Say that you have 20 young leaves, we wash and boil the leaves for 5 minutes one side, and 5 minutes on the other side. we strain them and put them in a plate. than we put in a bowl 20 tespoons rice, 1 onion grated, 3 cloves garlic grated, a handul mint, salt- pepper and 2 tablespoons olive oil. we mixed the ingredients well and start making the dolmadakia as follow. you lay down on a board 1 grape leave and you put 1 teasoonful of the rice mixture in the midle of the leave, then fold the leave from both sides to cover the rice, then you strart from the top of the leave and roall down gently and tiet to make a small sausage like and put it in a cooking pot, continue until you finished all the leaves. Now the cooking is a bit tricky. Boil some watery, put the pot on the stove with low heat add 3-4 tablespoons olive oil, add 1 cup boiling water slowlly and continue to add water to just cover the leaves, put a flat plait- dish on top of the leaves so they dont break and open, cook for 20 minutes. In the end of cooking you take 1 cup of the juice from the pot- the juice of 1 lemon and 2 eggs, bit the eggs with 2 tablespoons of water for a minute add the lemon juice and juice from the cooked leaves, keep on mixing for 1 more minute and add this on top of the food in the pot, cover the pot for 5 minutes and serve with fresh salad for a yammy dish. bone up petite. hugs Mary - milagros almanzor oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:32 AM Re: Grape leaves benefits Grape leaves are good for pickling too. Boiled with other condiments, it preserves the "pickled" item retaining its crispiness.Mellyoleander soup , John Palmer <beretta4408 wrote:>> Grape Leaves > Throughout the ages, the grapevine has come to represent fertility and prosperity. A luxuriant blooming vineyard was associated with times of peace and prosperity. A desolate vineyard, choked with weeds and strewn with broken vines, was symbolic of the ravages of war. For many, the grape vine was not just the bounty of the fruitfulness of the land; it was a gift from God.> Today, scientists are increasingly pointing to grape leaves for its numerous health benefits. As a powerful antioxidant it helps keep the free radicals in our bodies in check so that they don't promote too much oxidation, which can harm the walls and structure of cells, damage the genetic material inside a cell, and cause many serious diseases. An astringent, in ancient days grape leaves were used as a remedy for diarrhea and throat infections. The leaves are said to be rich in an a compound that is helps fight arthritis and cancer. Grape leaves contain resveratrol, a stress metabolite that inhibits the formation of fatty deposits in the liver. They are also a source of vinifern, an antifungal that works with resveratrol to protect the heart and cardiovascular system.> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Gee Mary, Thanks you made me feel hungry. I will try this recipe. I've seen this wrapped grape leaf for quite a bit just didn't have the guts to try it. Would adding basil or oregano add flavor or would it ruin the taste? Would cooking the leaves not remove its medicinal qualities? Can the leaves be eaten raw? Melly --- Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote: > Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with > rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard > of them. > Say that you have 20 young leaves, we wash and boil > the leaves for 5 minutes one side, and 5 minutes on > the other side. > we strain them and put them in a plate. > than we put in a bowl 20 tespoons rice, 1 onion > grated, 3 cloves garlic grated, a handul mint, salt- > pepper and 2 tablespoons olive oil. > we mixed the ingredients well and start making the > dolmadakia as follow. > you lay down on a board 1 grape leave and you put 1 > teasoonful of the rice mixture in the midle of the > leave, then fold the leave from both sides to cover > the rice, then you strart from the top of the leave > and roall down gently and tiet to make a small > sausage like and put it in a cooking pot, continue > until you finished all the leaves. > Now the cooking is a bit tricky. > Boil some watery, put the pot on the stove with low > heat add 3-4 tablespoons olive oil, add 1 cup > boiling water slowlly and continue to add water to > just cover the leaves, put a flat plait- dish on top > of the leaves so they dont break and open, cook for > 20 minutes. > In the end of cooking you take 1 cup of the juice > from the pot- the juice of 1 lemon and 2 eggs, bit > the eggs with 2 tablespoons of water for a minute > add the lemon juice and juice from the cooked > leaves, keep on mixing for 1 more minute and add > this on top of the food in the pot, cover the pot > for 5 minutes and serve with fresh salad for a > yammy dish. > bone up petite. > hugs Mary > - > milagros almanzor > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:32 AM > Re: Grape leaves benefits > > > Grape leaves are good for pickling too. Boiled > with other > condiments, it preserves the " pickled " item > retaining its crispiness. > > Melly > > oleander soup , John Palmer > <beretta4408 > wrote: > > > > Grape Leaves > > Throughout the ages, the grapevine has come to > represent fertility and prosperity. A luxuriant > blooming vineyard was > associated with times of peace and prosperity. A > desolate vineyard, > choked with weeds and strewn with broken vines, > was symbolic of the > ravages of war. For many, the grape vine was not > just the bounty of > the fruitfulness of the land; it was a gift from > God. > > Today, scientists are increasingly pointing to > grape leaves for its > numerous health benefits. As a powerful > antioxidant it helps keep the > free radicals in our bodies in check so that they > don't promote too > much oxidation, which can harm the walls and > structure of cells, > damage the genetic material inside a cell, and > cause many serious > diseases. An astringent, in ancient days grape > leaves were used as a > remedy for diarrhea and throat infections. The > leaves are said to be > rich in an a compound that is helps fight > arthritis and cancer. Grape > leaves contain resveratrol, a stress metabolite > that inhibits the > formation of fatty deposits in the liver. They are > also a source of > vinifern, an antifungal that works with > resveratrol to protect the > heart and cardiovascular system. > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > with Mobile. > Try it now. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that you only use grape leaves in the spring when they are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. Renee ---- Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze, or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and keep them in the fridge. dont forget to put dates on the containers. hugs Mary - Gaiacita oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that you only use grape leaves in the spring when they are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. Renee ---- Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Melly cooking the leaves make them soft and eatable otherwise they will be stringy. yes you can add any other ingredients you like, but dont over do it. some times i make raw salads with very young grape leaves with lots of other things in and it taste fantastic. also you can make tea out of the leaves for medicinal reasons. hugs Mary - melly banagale oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 2:54 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Gee Mary, Thanks you made me feel hungry. I will try thisrecipe. I've seen this wrapped grape leaf for quite abit just didn't have the guts to try it. Would addingbasil or oregano add flavor or would it ruin thetaste? Would cooking the leaves not remove itsmedicinal qualities? Can the leaves be eaten raw?Melly--- Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>wrote:> Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with> rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard> of them.> Say that you have 20 young leaves, we wash and boil> the leaves for 5 minutes one side, and 5 minutes on> the other side.> we strain them and put them in a plate.> than we put in a bowl 20 tespoons rice, 1 onion> grated, 3 cloves garlic grated, a handul mint, salt-> pepper and 2 tablespoons olive oil.> we mixed the ingredients well and start making the> dolmadakia as follow.> you lay down on a board 1 grape leave and you put 1> teasoonful of the rice mixture in the midle of the> leave, then fold the leave from both sides to cover> the rice, then you strart from the top of the leave> and roall down gently and tiet to make a small> sausage like and put it in a cooking pot, continue> until you finished all the leaves.> Now the cooking is a bit tricky.> Boil some watery, put the pot on the stove with low> heat add 3-4 tablespoons olive oil, add 1 cup> boiling water slowlly and continue to add water to> just cover the leaves, put a flat plait- dish on top> of the leaves so they dont break and open, cook for> 20 minutes.> In the end of cooking you take 1 cup of the juice> from the pot- the juice of 1 lemon and 2 eggs, bit> the eggs with 2 tablespoons of water for a minute> add the lemon juice and juice from the cooked> leaves, keep on mixing for 1 more minute and add> this on top of the food in the pot, cover the pot> for 5 minutes and serve with fresh salad for a> yammy dish.> bone up petite.> hugs Mary> - > milagros almanzor > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:32 AM> Re: Grape leaves benefits> > > Grape leaves are good for pickling too. Boiled> with other > condiments, it preserves the "pickled" item> retaining its crispiness.> > Melly> > oleander soup , John Palmer> <beretta4408 > wrote:> >> > Grape Leaves > > Throughout the ages, the grapevine has come to > represent fertility and prosperity. A luxuriant> blooming vineyard was > associated with times of peace and prosperity. A> desolate vineyard, > choked with weeds and strewn with broken vines,> was symbolic of the > ravages of war. For many, the grape vine was not> just the bounty of > the fruitfulness of the land; it was a gift from> God.> > Today, scientists are increasingly pointing to> grape leaves for its > numerous health benefits. As a powerful> antioxidant it helps keep the > free radicals in our bodies in check so that they> don't promote too > much oxidation, which can harm the walls and> structure of cells, > damage the genetic material inside a cell, and> cause many serious > diseases. An astringent, in ancient days grape> leaves were used as a > remedy for diarrhea and throat infections. The> leaves are said to be > rich in an a compound that is helps fight> arthritis and cancer. Grape > leaves contain resveratrol, a stress metabolite> that inhibits the > formation of fatty deposits in the liver. They are> also a source of > vinifern, an antifungal that works with> resveratrol to protect the > heart and cardiovascular system.> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all> with Mobile. > Try it now.> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Thanks! I'll be putting some up for the year, then. Renee ---- Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze, or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and keep them in the fridge. dont forget to put dates on the containers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mary, Many thanks i shall also try the leaves for salad. Melly --- Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote: > Melly cooking the leaves make them soft and eatable > otherwise they will be stringy. > yes you can add any other ingredients you like, but > dont over do it. > some times i make raw salads with very young grape > leaves with lots of other things in and it taste > fantastic. > also you can make tea out of the leaves for > medicinal reasons. > hugs Mary > - > melly banagale > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 2:54 PM > Re: Re: Grape leaves > benefits > > > Gee Mary, > > Thanks you made me feel hungry. I will try this > recipe. I've seen this wrapped grape leaf for > quite a > bit just didn't have the guts to try it. Would > adding > basil or oregano add flavor or would it ruin the > taste? Would cooking the leaves not remove its > medicinal qualities? Can the leaves be eaten raw? > > Melly > --- Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon > wrote: > > > Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves > with > > rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have > heard > > of them. > > Say that you have 20 young leaves, we wash and > boil > > the leaves for 5 minutes one side, and 5 minutes > on > > the other side. > > we strain them and put them in a plate. > > than we put in a bowl 20 tespoons rice, 1 onion > > grated, 3 cloves garlic grated, a handul mint, > salt- > > pepper and 2 tablespoons olive oil. > > we mixed the ingredients well and start making > the > > dolmadakia as follow. > > you lay down on a board 1 grape leave and you > put 1 > > teasoonful of the rice mixture in the midle of > the > > leave, then fold the leave from both sides to > cover > > the rice, then you strart from the top of the > leave > > and roall down gently and tiet to make a small > > sausage like and put it in a cooking pot, > continue > > until you finished all the leaves. > > Now the cooking is a bit tricky. > > Boil some watery, put the pot on the stove with > low > > heat add 3-4 tablespoons olive oil, add 1 cup > > boiling water slowlly and continue to add water > to > > just cover the leaves, put a flat plait- dish on > top > > of the leaves so they dont break and open, cook > for > > 20 minutes. > > In the end of cooking you take 1 cup of the > juice > > from the pot- the juice of 1 lemon and 2 eggs, > bit > > the eggs with 2 tablespoons of water for a > minute > > add the lemon juice and juice from the cooked > > leaves, keep on mixing for 1 more minute and add > > this on top of the food in the pot, cover the > pot > > for 5 minutes and serve with fresh salad for a > > yammy dish. > > bone up petite. > > hugs Mary > > - > > milagros almanzor > > oleander soup > > Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:32 AM > > Re: Grape leaves > benefits > > > > > > Grape leaves are good for pickling too. Boiled > > with other > > condiments, it preserves the " pickled " item > > retaining its crispiness. > > > > Melly > > > > oleander soup , John Palmer > > <beretta4408 > > wrote: > > > > > > Grape Leaves > > > Throughout the ages, the grapevine has come to > > > represent fertility and prosperity. A luxuriant > > blooming vineyard was > > associated with times of peace and prosperity. A > > desolate vineyard, > > choked with weeds and strewn with broken vines, > > was symbolic of the > > ravages of war. For many, the grape vine was not > > just the bounty of > > the fruitfulness of the land; it was a gift from > > God. > > > Today, scientists are increasingly pointing to > > grape leaves for its > > numerous health benefits. As a powerful > > antioxidant it helps keep the > > free radicals in our bodies in check so that > they > > don't promote too > > much oxidation, which can harm the walls and > > structure of cells, > > damage the genetic material inside a cell, and > > cause many serious > > diseases. An astringent, in ancient days grape > > leaves were used as a > > remedy for diarrhea and throat infections. The > > leaves are said to be > > rich in an a compound that is helps fight > > arthritis and cancer. Grape > > leaves contain resveratrol, a stress metabolite > > that inhibits the > > formation of fatty deposits in the liver. They > are > > also a source of > > vinifern, an antifungal that works with > > resveratrol to protect the > > heart and cardiovascular system. > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all > > with Mobile. > > Try it now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Actually, they're finding that steaming veggies actually increases nutrient counts. Go figger. Was it on this mailing list that that info came out? In a message dated 5/5/2008 9:14:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mader writes: If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in a jar, are the nutritional components compromised? I have always understood that cooking or boiling removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, and, hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them. Thanks, MWondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in a jar, are the nutritional components compromised? I have always understood that cooking or boiling removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, and, hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them. Thanks, M - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze, or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and keep them in the fridge. dont forget to put dates on the containers. hugs Mary - Gaiacita oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that you only use grape leaves in the spring when they are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. Renee ---- Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 I read the article too, can't figure out which group it was publisihed, spinach is boiled for its nutrients to increase. Cruciferous vegetables are to be steamed. And here i was forcing my husband to eat raw broccoli which is actually bitter and he hated it. Now we can steam it and tastes a bit better. Melly --- ahzoov wrote: > Actually, they're finding that steaming veggies > actually increases nutrient > counts. > > Go figger. > > Was it on this mailing list that that info came out? > > > In a message dated 5/5/2008 9:14:54 A.M. Central > Daylight Time, > mader writes: > > If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in > a jar, are the > nutritional components compromised? > > I have always understood that cooking or boiling > removes some of the > benefits. I love dolmas, and, hee hee am looking > for more reasons to eat them. > > Thanks, M > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? > Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mary, Just asking why put dates in brine. What will dates do? Melly --- Margaret Mader <mader wrote: > If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in > a jar, are the nutritional components compromised? > > I have always understood that cooking or boiling > removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, and, > hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them. > > Thanks, M > > - > Maria Stathopoulos > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM > Re: Re: Grape leaves > benefits > > > > Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in > boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze, > or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put > them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup > boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and > keep them in the fridge. > dont forget to put dates on the containers. > hugs Mary > - > Gaiacita > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM > Re: Re: Grape leaves > benefits > > > Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape > leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe > freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that > you only use grape leaves in the spring when they > are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be > leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some > dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. > > Renee > > ---- > > Melly in my family we cook and eat grape > leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you > have heard of them. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Margaret i never buy jar food even organic, so i really dont know how they preserve them, to say if the leaves loose some of the nutritional componets, now i have my own vine so i have all the leaves i need, but before i always ask peaple to give me some leaves, and they always did, so why dont you ask for leaves next time you see a vine? p.ps. dont forget you make the dolmas for food, for medicinal benefits you make tea or salad so all the benefits will be there. hugs Mary - Margaret Mader oleander soup Monday, May 05, 2008 9:40 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in a jar, are the nutritional components compromised? I have always understood that cooking or boiling removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, and, hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them. Thanks, M - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze, or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and keep them in the fridge. dont forget to put dates on the containers. hugs Mary - Gaiacita oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that you only use grape leaves in the spring when they are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. Renee ---- Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 LOL LOL Melly my mistake sorry girl, no fruits dates, dates of week and month- so if you make 2 jars you use the one you make first, lol lol and hugs Mary - melly banagale oleander soup Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:15 AM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Mary,Just asking why put dates in brine. What will datesdo?Melly--- Margaret Mader <mader wrote:> If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in> a jar, are the nutritional components compromised?> > I have always understood that cooking or boiling> removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, and,> hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them.> > Thanks, M> > - > Maria Stathopoulos > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM> Re: Re: Grape leaves> benefits> > > > Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in> boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze,> or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put> them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup> boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and> keep them in the fridge.> dont forget to put dates on the containers.> hugs Mary> - > Gaiacita > oleander soup > Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM> Re: Re: Grape leaves> benefits> > > Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape> leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe> freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that> you only use grape leaves in the spring when they> are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be> leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some> dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use.> > Renee > > ----> > Melly in my family we cook and eat grape> leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you> have heard of them.> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Ok, thanks, and this is really going to tick the men (except the chefs off), but do you have a great dolmas recipe....? If so please email it to Mader. Love it. But question, why is it not as beneficial as in tea or salad? Especially in light of the recent conversations that cooking/steaming may CONCENTRATE the nutrients? Margaret - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Monday, May 05, 2008 8:06 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Margaret i never buy jar food even organic, so i really dont know how they preserve them, to say if the leaves loose some of the nutritional componets, now i have my own vine so i have all the leaves i need, but before i always ask peaple to give me some leaves, and they always did, so why dont you ask for leaves next time you see a vine? p.ps. dont forget you make the dolmas for food, for medicinal benefits you make tea or salad so all the benefits will be there. hugs Mary - Margaret Mader oleander soup Monday, May 05, 2008 9:40 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) in a jar, are the nutritional components compromised? I have always understood that cooking or boiling removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, and, hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them. Thanks, M - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them in boilining water for few seconds, strain and freeze, or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put them in a container or jar with little salt,1 cup boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar and keep them in the fridge. dont forget to put dates on the containers. hugs Mary - Gaiacita oleander soup Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape leaves for making dolmas later in the year? Maybe freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote that you only use grape leaves in the spring when they are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will be leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. Renee ---- Melly in my family we cook and eat grape leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe you have heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Mary, That was really funny. Makes me look " dense " . Melly --- Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote: > LOL LOL Melly my mistake sorry girl, no fruits > dates, dates of week and month- so if you make 2 > jars you use the one you make first, lol lol and > hugs Mary > - > melly banagale > oleander soup > Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:15 AM > Re: Re: Grape leaves > benefits > > > Mary, > > Just asking why put dates in brine. What will > dates > do? > > Melly > --- Margaret Mader <mader wrote: > > > If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course) > in > > a jar, are the nutritional components > compromised? > > > > I have always understood that cooking or boiling > > removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas, > and, > > hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them. > > > > Thanks, M > > > > - > > Maria Stathopoulos > > oleander soup > > Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM > > Re: Re: Grape leaves > > benefits > > > > > > > > Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them > in > > boilining water for few seconds, strain and > freeze, > > or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put > > them in a container or jar with little salt,1 > cup > > boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar > and > > keep them in the fridge. > > dont forget to put dates on the containers. > > hugs Mary > > - > > Gaiacita > > oleander soup > > Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM > > Re: Re: Grape leaves > > benefits > > > > > > Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape > > leaves for making dolmas later in the year? > Maybe > > freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote > that > > you only use grape leaves in the spring when > they > > are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will > be > > leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some > > dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use. > > > > Renee > > > > ---- > > > > Melly in my family we cook and eat grape > > leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe > you > > have heard of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Melly sweetheart by no means did i try to make you look or feel dense, but yes it was little funny in a good way. hugs Mary - melly banagale oleander soup Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:44 PM Re: Re: Grape leaves benefits Mary,That was really funny. Makes me look "dense".Melly--- Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>wrote:> LOL LOL Melly my mistake sorry girl, no fruits> dates, dates of week and month- so if you make 2> jars you use the one you make first, lol lol and> hugs Mary > - > melly banagale > oleander soup > Tuesday, May 06, 2008 5:15 AM> Re: Re: Grape leaves> benefits> > > Mary,> > Just asking why put dates in brine. What will> dates> do?> > Melly> --- Margaret Mader <mader wrote:> > > If you buy the grape leaves (organic, of course)> in> > a jar, are the nutritional components> compromised?> > > > I have always understood that cooking or boiling> > removes some of the benefits. I love dolmas,> and,> > hee hee am looking for more reasons to eat them.> > > > Thanks, M> > > > - > > Maria Stathopoulos > > oleander soup > > Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:54 PM> > Re: Re: Grape leaves> > benefits> > > > > > > > Yes Renee you can do both, either you drop them> in> > boilining water for few seconds, strain and> freeze,> > or you put salt on both sides of the leaves, put> > them in a container or jar with little salt,1> cup> > boiled but warm water, 1 cup apple cider vinegar> and> > keep them in the fridge.> > dont forget to put dates on the containers.> > hugs Mary> > - > > Gaiacita > > oleander soup > > Sunday, May 04, 2008 11:19 PM> > Re: Re: Grape leaves> > benefits> > > > > > Hi Mary. Can you preserve spring grape> > leaves for making dolmas later in the year?> Maybe> > freeze them? Once I read where someone wrote> that> > you only use grape leaves in the spring when> they> > are tender enough to eat. Our wild grapes will> be> > leafing out soon and I'd like to try making some> > dolmas and preserving the leaves for later use.> > > > Renee > > > > ----> > > > Melly in my family we cook and eat grape> > leaves with rice, we call them DOLMADAKIA, maybe> you> > have heard of them.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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