Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hello, My name is Amy and I am new to the site. I am a certified natural health professional here in IL. I have some question and concerns I was hoping someone here could answer. How many of you know someone or has used oleander yourself. If so, in what form (the recepie here or someone elses formula)? What side effects did you experience? How long before you noticed a change? Do you still take it? Is their certain types of cancers that it is more effective with? I have just learned about oleander tonight so I have much more to learn about it. If you have any further information to pass along, that would be much appriciated. I am asking this information for my husband's uncle in OK. He has been struggling with pain for many months now but due to him having no insurance or money, they have been through many people draging there feet for the right help. He has now had a MRI or CT that has shown a tumor in his bladder. They have told him he would have to remove it. Long story short, he is ready for alternatives and does not want it removed. Thanks Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hi Amy ,I'm writing from New Zealand and I was diag with breast cancer on a rib 4yrs ago.I had already suspected and was researching the net for cheap or free alternatives.I thought great I can make this myself!So I did.I did none of the things the docs wanted,no masectomy,no lymph nodes taken,no radiation,no chemo,just lumpectomy,some further inscision to remove clumping cells and a couple of months of tamoxifen that I stopped.I took my Oleander soup preserved with 50% vodka religeously for 2 yrs then gradually got slack mainly because I couldnt stand the taste.......I was told by 1 doc in particular that I would be dead in 5yrs.This is 41/2 yrs on and my circulating cancer cell blood count has gone up,I have started taking the oleander again.So far I have been having tests but nothing has been found.The previously opinionated doc tells me to keep on doing whatever it is I'm doing and how good I look etc......so you have nothing to lose and everything to gain and this is something that can be made very cheaply.even all the natural supplements that I also take have a cost and noting much is cheap anymore.When I first started taking it I experianced some diorrea and I became a little feverish and sweaty at night...that soon settled as my body got used to the mixture and I returned to normal....2wks.....The taste is unbelievably awful.thats the hardest part of it for me.........I have come to think of it as a natural herbal chemo......e noho ra...(stay well)...Pam NZ - salenbailey oleander soup Monday, April 14, 2008 2:30 PM New to the site Hello, My name is Amy and I am new to the site. I am a certified natural health professional here in IL. I have some question and concerns I was hoping someone here could answer. How many of you know someone or has used oleander yourself. If so, in what form (the recepie here or someone elses formula)? What side effects did you experience? How long before you noticed a change? Do you still take it? Is their certain types of cancers that it is more effective with?I have just learned about oleander tonight so I have much more to learn about it. If you have any further information to pass along, that would be much appriciated. I am asking this information for my husband's uncle in OK. He has been struggling with pain for many months now but due to him having no insurance or money, they have been through many people draging there feet for the right help. He has now had a MRI or CT that has shown a tumor in his bladder. They have told him he would have to remove it. Long story short, he is ready for alternatives and does not want it removed. Thanks Amy Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release 4/13/2008 1:45 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Pam, thank you for your awesome testimony. Actually, the trick is to always continue the oleander regimen to prevent the cancer from returning. Here is an excerpt from the Oleander recipe to prevent that bitter taste. It really works. " When you take the oleander soup, the bitter taste comes when you swallow and not when you hold it under your tongue prior to swallowing (there are no taste buds UNDER the tongue). Some prefer to flavor their soup with substances like pancake syrup or concentrated grape seed extract (a good choice!). The way the author avoids the bitter taste is to divide the dosage in half and mix half in a glass of grape juice with grapeseed extract, pomegranate juice, blueberry juice, acai juice, or some combination and then put half under the tongue and h old it there until time to swallow. Then, before you swallow, take a gulp of the juice mix and swallow all at once. You do not notice the bitterness nearly as much this way, and the other half of the dose is sufficiently diluted to barely be noticeable and not be unpleasant at all. " Also, anybody following the oleander recipe must do so precisely. Do all prior testing that is recommended. If buying the plant from a nursery, make sure the plant is free of insecticides. I recommend an organic nursery. And remember, oleander cross assays with dioxin/digitalis. If you choose to make the recipe yourself, we are here to guide you, so please do not hesitate in asking questions. If one follows precise instructions without taking shortcuts, you will be successful in creating a perfect batch of Oleandersoup. One more word..... Tony encourages the use of Oleandersoup together with his anti-cancer, antidisease protocol. A well rounded plan to fight cancer is the best alternative. Hugs, oleander soup , " Pam Griffin " <pgriff wrote: > > Hi Amy ,I'm writing from New Zealand and I was diag with breast cancer on a rib 4yrs ago.I had already suspected and was researching the net for cheap or free alternatives.I thought great I can make this myself!So I did.I did none of the things the docs wanted,no masectomy,no lymph nodes taken,no radiation,no chemo,just lumpectomy,some further inscision to remove clumping cells and a couple of months of tamoxifen that I stopped.I took my Oleander soup preserved with 50% vodka religeously for 2 yrs then gradually got slack mainly because I couldnt stand the taste.......I was told by 1 doc in particular that I would be dead in 5yrs.This is 41/2 yrs on and my circulating cancer cell blood count has gone up,I have started taking the oleander again.So far I have been having tests but nothing has been found.The previously opinionated doc tells me to keep on doing whatever it is I'm doing and how good I look etc......so you have nothing to lose and everything to gain and this is something that can be made very cheaply.even all the natural supplements that I also take have a cost and noting much is cheap anymore.When I first started taking it I experianced some diorrea and I became a little feverish and sweaty at night...that soon settled as my body got used to the mixture and I returned to normal....2wks.....The taste is unbelievably awful.thats the hardest part of it for me.........I have come to think of it as a natural herbal chemo......e noho ra...(stay well)...Pam NZ > - > salenbailey > oleander soup > Monday, April 14, 2008 2:30 PM > New to the site > > > Hello, > My name is Amy and I am new to the site. I am a certified natural > health professional here in IL. I have some question and concerns I > was hoping someone here could answer. How many of you know someone > or has used oleander yourself. If so, in what form (the recepie here > or someone elses formula)? What side effects did you experience? > How long before you noticed a change? Do you still take it? Is > their certain types of cancers that it is more effective with? > I have just learned about oleander tonight so I have much more to > learn about it. If you have any further information to pass along, > that would be much appriciated. > > I am asking this information for my husband's uncle in OK. He has > been struggling with pain for many months now but due to him having > no insurance or money, they have been through many people draging > there feet for the right help. He has now had a MRI or CT that has > shown a tumor in his bladder. They have told him he would have to > remove it. Long story short, he is ready for alternatives and does > not want it removed. > > Thanks > Amy -- ---------- > > > > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Hi ,Yes it works, if you dont have sensitive teeth,or theyre made of plastic ! The mixture is kept in the fridge and a tablespoon of the cold stuff is too much for my teeth to bear......actually it goes down better before food,eating a meal afterwards seems to get rid of any residue that has permeated the taste buds,and also makes the stomach feel more settled.....and after all the experimenting with other things to preserve it(cider vinegar)felt like paint stripper in the gut) collodial silver(went bubbly and i suspected its contents,)even under refigeration...I went back to vodka as it keeps forever in the fridge perfectly.........Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Oh Pam, I'm glad it works. Hmmmm......... Wonder what you could do about the sensitive teeth. Maybe let the dose you are about to take warm to room temperature first? I am so glad this is working better for you. Thank you for letting me know. Hugs, oleander soup , " Pam Griffin " <pgriff wrote: > > Hi ,Yes it works, if you dont have sensitive teeth,or theyre made of plastic ! The mixture is kept in the fridge and a tablespoon of the cold stuff is too much for my teeth to bear......actually it goes down better before food,eating a meal afterwards seems to get rid of any residue that has permeated the taste buds,and also makes the stomach feel more settled.....and after all the experimenting with other things to preserve it(cider vinegar)felt like paint stripper in the gut) collodial silver(went bubbly and i suspected its contents,)even under refigeration...I went back to vodka as it keeps forever in the fridge perfectly.........Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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