Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 There is really no such thing as overdosing your dog on silver - feel free to put in ample amounts. You might even try an experiment - put one bowl of plain water and one with silver in it side by side. I bet you that the dog prefers the one with silver! I have seen many reports of older and/or ill pets responding so well to silver that they play and frolic about the way they did years ago. When it comes to tumors in animals, Inositol/IP6 such as found in the Utopia Silver carried Cell Forte powder has had wonderful results jut as it has in humans. A local here in Utopia used it to get rid of a softball sized tumor on his goats neck in only a few weeks. If you happen to order it or anything else from Utopia Silver, be sure to use the discount code first created for this group - LR001 and you will get a 15% discount on anything not on sale. oleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54 wrote: > > May, > > THANKS so much for the advice. Yes, my Vet did say that the tumor was probably a fatty tumor. I will certainly try the Collodial Silver. I have some that I purchased at a health food store but I'm going to order some Utopia. > > I just want to clarify.......I don't want my dog to turn blue! I should put a teaspoon of Collodial Silver in her water bowl each day. So I will pour the old out and put in fresh water and fresh Collodial Silver each day? My dog doesn't drink all of the water in her bowl each day. I just want to make sure I don't overdose her. > > Also.....I read Tony's Cancer's Natural Enemy and he mentioned Zapper's. I have heard of these before and I would like to purchase one. I've done some research on the net but I would like your advice as to where to purchase a good brand. > > THANKS AGAIN......I will keep you posted on my dog's tumor elimination process. > > Hugs.....Karen Sue > > May <luellamay129 wrote: > Hi Karen Sue, > First of all, welcome to our group! So glad you are here! > Now then, I give my animals one teaspoon of colloidal silver in a standard water bowl per day. I started doing this when I noticed Misty's tumor getting bigger. And she was also 8 years old at the time. Since then, whenever an animal has been ill I have given them colloidal silver and they have cleared up in a matter of days. Now I give it to them every day as a preventative measure. > I would venture to say your dog has a fatty tumor like Misty had. The doctor didn't mention that? And yes, they do grow. > Is she also a bit sluggish, by chance? Misty seemed to be lethargic. Now she is a different dog and the tumor is gone. > Try this. You will notice a marked improvement and that tumor will dissapear. Do you know where to get colloidal silver? If not, and I will tell you from personal experience, Utopia Silver is the best there is, in everything actually. It has the highest quality that I have found anywhere. Just click > Utopia Silver > Put in the Code LR001 for a 15% discount if it is not on sale. > Colloidal silver is one of the things that I will not to without, not for myself, nor my animals > I wish you the very best. Let me know how your dog progresses. I have a sneaking suspicion you will see wonderful results in no time. > Hugs, > > > > oleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54@> wrote: > > > > May, > > > > I'm new to the group but I've been reading and learning a lot. I was wondering could you tell me how much Colloidal Silver you give your animals? Is it as a preventative measure? I have a small dog...22 pounds....8 years old. She has a tumor on her side. The Vet did a small biopsy and didn't get cancer cells but says that was not a conclusive test. I think the tumor is slowly growing. I was wondering if Colloidal Silver might help. I take Colloidal Silver but have never given to my pet. > > > > Thanks......Karen Sue > > > > Bill w.wilkins@ wrote: > > May, > > Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of some of his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks > > Bill > > - > > May > > oleander soup > > Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM > > Re: Question for > > > > > > Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through. > > > > Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I > > am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving > > your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold? > > > > Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although > > no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart > > does go out to you. > > > > I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your > > dog. They are our most faithful friends. > > > > Hugs to you, > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " @ wrote: > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the > > > most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your > > > dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far > > worse. > > > > > > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > > > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help? > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Tony, > > > > > > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would > > > oleander > > > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this > > condition? His > > > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on > > > prednisone > > > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him > > > these but > > > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes, > > > progresses > > > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again > > for > > > all that > > > > you do. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > - > > > > " Tony " @> > > > > oleander soup > > > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM > > > > Re: pissed and confused > > > > > > > > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a > > bit > > > > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of > > relating. > > > > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel > > feels the > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you > > have at > > > > > FrancoBlanco! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went > > to a > > > > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try > > to share > > > > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will > > make my > > > > >> comment to what you wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% > > of the > > > > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was > > mistakenly > > > > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health. > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only > > 90% of > > > > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you > > will have > > > > >> an accident. Right? > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally > > healthy > > > > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the > > holistic > > > > >> community standards. > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so > > many > > > > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you > > can't > > > > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not > > possible. > > > > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are > > taking > > > > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a > > > disease. > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all > > possible > > > > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal > > products, who > > > > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, > > mostly even > > > > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm > > just so > > > > >> frickin' confused and PISSED! > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems > > to be > > > > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are > > living? > > > > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your > > carpets, > > > > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less > > toxic. You > > > > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic > > and > > > > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with > > > money one > > > > >> can't trust... > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's > > pissing me > > > > >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " > > who lives > > > > >> this healthily get hit with cancer? > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you > > have done > > > > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, > > because > > > > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You > > > did the > > > > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the > > other > > > > >> that belongs to you? > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this > > healthily > > > > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the > > sacrifice, > > > > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way? > > > > >> What's the point?!!! > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose > > perfect > > > > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. > > You can't > > > > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of > > essential parts > > > > >> of yourself. > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll > > beat > > > this > > > > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not > > scared and > > > > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED! > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not > > being > > > > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into > > a dark > > > > >> void. > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the > > last 8 > > > > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer > > > diagnosis! > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and > > understand that > > > > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to > > learn! > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I > > > know all > > > > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical - > > > > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But > > so > > > > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and > > > USE it > > > > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!! > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and > > look at > > > > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your > > > decision. > > > > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for > > because > > > > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a > > limited > > > > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that > > goes > > > > >> beyond this. > > > > >> > > > > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I > > > mean, how > > > > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the > > > > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " > > > person?? > > > > >> > > > > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' > > but if > > > > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you > > and > > > > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is > > quite > > > > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' > > person is > > > > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that > > > you are > > > > >> capable. > > > > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal > > people > > > > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too > > > long. But > > > > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to > > my Web > > > > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing > > process from > > > > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some > > > > >> inspiration out of it... > > > > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not > > enough to > > > > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be > > in > > > > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that > > you > > > have > > > > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security > > and > > > > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about > > spiritual > > > > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of > > your > > > > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to > > an > > > other > > > > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just > > what > > > your > > > > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self > > knowledge and > > > > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a > > knowledge > > > > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an > > effective way > > > > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com > > (Don't > > > > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my > > experiences!) > > > > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the > > answers > > > > >> will come to you... > > > > >> Namaste > > > > >> BeiYin > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2008 Report Share Posted April 12, 2008 To this I must respond that my 9 year old Misty frolics as she did when she was a puppy, and she has that wonderful enthusiasm back. Furthermore, when I go on walks, she runs and keeps up with the other dogs, the oldest of which is two years old. Hugs, oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > There is really no such thing as overdosing your dog on silver - feel > free to put in ample amounts. You might even try an experiment - put > one bowl of plain water and one with silver in it side by side. I bet > you that the dog prefers the one with silver! > > I have seen many reports of older and/or ill pets responding so well > to silver that they play and frolic about the way they did years ago. > > When it comes to tumors in animals, Inositol/IP6 such as found in the > Utopia Silver carried Cell Forte powder has had wonderful results jut > as it has in humans. > > A local here in Utopia used it to get rid of a softball sized tumor on > his goats neck in only a few weeks. > > If you happen to order it or anything else from Utopia Silver, be sure > to use the discount code first created for this group - LR001 and you > will get a 15% discount on anything not on sale. > > > > oleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54@> wrote: > > > > May, > > > > THANKS so much for the advice. Yes, my Vet did say that the tumor > was probably a fatty tumor. I will certainly try the Collodial > Silver. I have some that I purchased at a health food store but I'm > going to order some Utopia. > > > > I just want to clarify.......I don't want my dog to turn blue! > I should put a teaspoon of Collodial Silver in her water bowl each > day. So I will pour the old out and put in fresh water and fresh > Collodial Silver each day? My dog doesn't drink all of the water in > her bowl each day. I just want to make sure I don't overdose her. > > > > Also.....I read Tony's Cancer's Natural Enemy and he mentioned > Zapper's. I have heard of these before and I would like to purchase > one. I've done some research on the net but I would like your advice > as to where to purchase a good brand. > > > > THANKS AGAIN......I will keep you posted on my dog's tumor > elimination process. > > > > Hugs.....Karen Sue > > > > May <luellamay129@> wrote: > > Hi Karen Sue, > > First of all, welcome to our group! So glad you are here! > > Now then, I give my animals one teaspoon of colloidal silver in a > standard water bowl per day. I started doing this when I noticed > Misty's tumor getting bigger. And she was also 8 years old at the > time. Since then, whenever an animal has been ill I have given them > colloidal silver and they have cleared up in a matter of days. Now I > give it to them every day as a preventative measure. > > I would venture to say your dog has a fatty tumor like Misty had. > The doctor didn't mention that? And yes, they do grow. > > Is she also a bit sluggish, by chance? Misty seemed to be > lethargic. Now she is a different dog and the tumor is gone. > > Try this. You will notice a marked improvement and that tumor > will dissapear. Do you know where to get colloidal silver? If not, > and I will tell you from personal experience, Utopia Silver is the > best there is, in everything actually. It has the highest quality > that I have found anywhere. Just click > > Utopia Silver > > Put in the Code LR001 for a 15% discount if it is not on sale. > > Colloidal silver is one of the things that I will not to without, > not for myself, nor my animals > > I wish you the very best. Let me know how your dog progresses. I > have a sneaking suspicion you will see wonderful results in no time. > > Hugs, > > > > > > > > oleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54@> wrote: > > > > > > May, > > > > > > I'm new to the group but I've been reading and learning a lot. I > was wondering could you tell me how much Colloidal Silver you give > your animals? Is it as a preventative measure? I have a small dog...22 > pounds....8 years old. She has a tumor on her side. The Vet did a > small biopsy and didn't get cancer cells but says that was not a > conclusive test. I think the tumor is slowly growing. I was wondering > if Colloidal Silver might help. I take Colloidal Silver but have never > given to my pet. > > > > > > Thanks......Karen Sue > > > > > > Bill w.wilkins@ wrote: > > > May, > > > Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of some > of his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks > > > Bill > > > - > > > May > > > oleander soup > > > Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM > > > Re: Question for > > > > > > > > > Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through. > > > > > > Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I > > > am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving > > > your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold? > > > > > > Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although > > > no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart > > > does go out to you. > > > > > > I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your > > > dog. They are our most faithful friends. > > > > > > Hugs to you, > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Tony " @ wrote: > > > > > > > > Bob - > > > > > > > > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the > > > > most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your > > > > dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far > > > worse. > > > > > > > > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > > > > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Tony, > > > > > > > > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would > > > > oleander > > > > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this > > > condition? His > > > > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on > > > > prednisone > > > > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him > > > > these but > > > > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes, > > > > progresses > > > > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again > > > for > > > > all that > > > > > you do. > > > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > - > > > > > " Tony " @> > > > > > oleander soup > > > > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM > > > > > Re: pissed and confused > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a > > > bit > > > > > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of > > > relating. > > > > > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel > > > feels the > > > > > > same. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you > > > have at > > > > > > FrancoBlanco! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being@> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went > > > to a > > > > > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try > > > to share > > > > > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will > > > make my > > > > > >> comment to what you wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% > > > of the > > > > > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was > > > mistakenly > > > > > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only > > > 90% of > > > > > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you > > > will have > > > > > >> an accident. Right? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally > > > healthy > > > > > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the > > > holistic > > > > > >> community standards. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so > > > many > > > > > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you > > > can't > > > > > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not > > > possible. > > > > > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are > > > taking > > > > > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a > > > > disease. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all > > > possible > > > > > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal > > > products, who > > > > > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, > > > mostly even > > > > > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm > > > just so > > > > > >> frickin' confused and PISSED! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems > > > to be > > > > > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are > > > living? > > > > > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your > > > carpets, > > > > > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less > > > toxic. You > > > > > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic > > > and > > > > > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with > > > > money one > > > > > >> can't trust... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's > > > pissing me > > > > > >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " > > > who lives > > > > > >> this healthily get hit with cancer? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you > > > have done > > > > > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, > > > because > > > > > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You > > > > did the > > > > > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the > > > other > > > > > >> that belongs to you? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this > > > healthily > > > > > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the > > > sacrifice, > > > > > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way? > > > > > >> What's the point?!!! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose > > > perfect > > > > > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. > > > You can't > > > > > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of > > > essential parts > > > > > >> of yourself. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll > > > beat > > > > this > > > > > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not > > > scared and > > > > > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not > > > being > > > > > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into > > > a dark > > > > > >> void. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the > > > last 8 > > > > > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer > > > > diagnosis! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and > > > understand that > > > > > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to > > > learn! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I > > > > know all > > > > > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical - > > > > > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But > > > so > > > > > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and > > > > USE it > > > > > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!! > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and > > > look at > > > > > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your > > > > decision. > > > > > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for > > > because > > > > > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a > > > limited > > > > > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that > > > goes > > > > > >> beyond this. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I > > > > mean, how > > > > > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the > > > > > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " > > > > person?? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' > > > but if > > > > > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you > > > and > > > > > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is > > > quite > > > > > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' > > > person is > > > > > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that > > > > you are > > > > > >> capable. > > > > > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal > > > people > > > > > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too > > > > long. But > > > > > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to > > > my Web > > > > > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing > > > process from > > > > > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some > > > > > >> inspiration out of it... > > > > > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not > > > enough to > > > > > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be > > > in > > > > > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that > > > you > > > > have > > > > > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security > > > and > > > > > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about > > > spiritual > > > > > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of > > > your > > > > > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to > > > an > > > > other > > > > > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just > > > what > > > > your > > > > > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self > > > knowledge and > > > > > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a > > > knowledge > > > > > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an > > > effective way > > > > > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com > > > (Don't > > > > > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my > > > experiences!) > > > > > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the > > > answers > > > > > >> will come to you... > > > > > >> Namaste > > > > > >> BeiYin > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Tony, I'm planning to order some of the inositol/IP6 powder to take myself as a preventative and to possibly give to my dog for the tumor. How do I determine the amount to give to my dog? Does it taste bad? Should I order tablets or powder? Although I'm pretty healthy now and I'm trying to follow a healthy lifestyle I think I will do as you said in a previous email: "Just to be sure, every few months or so I will go several weeks atfull oleander dose and do the same every few months with a containerof inositol/IP6 powder (the Cell Forte from Utopia Silver) which DOESzap tumors." Thanks for the advice.Tony wrote: There is really no such thing as overdosing your dog on silver - feelfree to put in ample amounts. You might even try an experiment - putone bowl of plain water and one with silver in it side by side. I betyou that the dog prefers the one with silver!I have seen many reports of older and/or ill pets responding so wellto silver that they play and frolic about the way they did years ago.When it comes to tumors in animals, Inositol/IP6 such as found in theUtopia Silver carried Cell Forte powder has had wonderful results jutas it has in humans.A local here in Utopia used it to get rid of a softball sized tumor onhis goats neck in only a few weeks.If you happen to order it or anything else from Utopia Silver, be sureto use the discount code first created for this group - LR001 and youwill get a 15% discount on anything not on sale.Tonyoleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54 wrote:>> May,> > THANKS so much for the advice. Yes, my Vet did say that the tumorwas probably a fatty tumor. I will certainly try the CollodialSilver. I have some that I purchased at a health food store but I'mgoing to order some Utopia.> > I just want to clarify.......I don't want my dog to turn blue! :)I should put a teaspoon of Collodial Silver in her water bowl eachday. So I will pour the old out and put in fresh water and freshCollodial Silver each day? My dog doesn't drink all of the water inher bowl each day. I just want to make sure I don't overdose her.> > Also.....I read Tony's Cancer's Natural Enemy and he mentionedZapper's. I have heard of these before and I would like to purchaseone. I've done some research on the net but I would like your adviceas to where to purchase a good brand.> > THANKS AGAIN......I will keep you posted on my dog's tumorelimination process. > > Hugs.....Karen Sue> > May <luellamay129 wrote:> Hi Karen Sue,> First of all, welcome to our group! So glad you are here!> Now then, I give my animals one teaspoon of colloidal silver in astandard water bowl per day. I started doing this when I noticedMisty's tumor getting bigger. And she was also 8 years old at thetime. Since then, whenever an animal has been ill I have given themcolloidal silver and they have cleared up in a matter of days. Now Igive it to them every day as a preventative measure.> I would venture to say your dog has a fatty tumor like Misty had.The doctor didn't mention that? And yes, they do grow.> Is she also a bit sluggish, by chance? Misty seemed to belethargic. Now she is a different dog and the tumor is gone.> Try this. You will notice a marked improvement and that tumorwill dissapear. Do you know where to get colloidal silver? If not,and I will tell you from personal experience, Utopia Silver is thebest there is, in everything actually. It has the highest qualitythat I have found anywhere. Just click > Utopia Silver > Put in the Code LR001 for a 15% discount if it is not on sale.> Colloidal silver is one of the things that I will not to without,not for myself, nor my animals> I wish you the very best. Let me know how your dog progresses. Ihave a sneaking suspicion you will see wonderful results in no time.> Hugs,> > > > oleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54@> wrote:> >> > May,> > > > I'm new to the group but I've been reading and learning a lot. Iwas wondering could you tell me how much Colloidal Silver you giveyour animals? Is it as a preventative measure? I have a small dog...22pounds....8 years old. She has a tumor on her side. The Vet did asmall biopsy and didn't get cancer cells but says that was not aconclusive test. I think the tumor is slowly growing. I was wonderingif Colloidal Silver might help. I take Colloidal Silver but have nevergiven to my pet.> > > > Thanks......Karen Sue> > > > Bill w.wilkins@ wrote:> > May,> > Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of someof his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks> > Bill> > - > > May > > oleander soup > > Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM> > Re: Question for Tony> > > > > > Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through.> > > > Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I > > am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving > > your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold?> > > > Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although > > no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart > > does go out to you.> > > > I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your > > dog. They are our most faithful friends.> > > > Hugs to you,> > > > > > oleander soup , "Tony" @ wrote:> > >> > > Bob -> > > > > > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the> > > most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your> > > dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far > > worse.> > > > > > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > > > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help?> > > > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup , "bbanever" <bbanever@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hello Tony,> > > > > > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would> > > oleander > > > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this > > condition? His > > > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on> > > prednisone > > > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him> > > these but > > > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes,> > > progresses > > > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again > > for> > > all that > > > > you do.> > > > > > > > Bob> > > > - > > > > "Tony" @>> > > > oleander soup > > > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM> > > > Re: pissed and confused> > > > > > > > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a > > bit> > > > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of > > relating.> > > > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel > > feels the> > > > > same.> > > > >> > > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you > > have at> > > > > FrancoBlanco!> > > > >> > > > > Tony> > > > >> > > > > --- In oleander soup , "idbeiyin" <Being@> wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> > > wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went > > to a> > > > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try > > to share> > > > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will > > make my> > > > >> comment to what you wrote:> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% > > of the> > > > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was > > mistakenly> > > > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health.> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only > > 90% of> > > > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you > > will have> > > > >> an accident. Right?> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally > > healthy> > > > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the > > holistic> > > > >> community standards.> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so > > many> > > > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you > > can't> > > > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not > > possible.> > > > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are > > taking> > > > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a> > > disease.> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all > > possible> > > > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal > > products, who> > > > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, > > mostly even> > > > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm > > just so> > > > >> frickin' confused and PISSED!> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems > > to be> > > > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are > > living?> > > > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your > > carpets,> > > > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less > > toxic. You> > > > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic > > and> > > > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with> > > money one> > > > >> can't trust...> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: It's not even the classic "why ME?!" thing that's > > pissing me> > > > >> off, but rather the "how in heaven's name can "ANY PERSON" > > who lives> > > > >> this healthily get hit with cancer?> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you > > have done> > > > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, > > because> > > > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You> > > did the> > > > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the > > other> > > > >> that belongs to you?> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this > > healthily> > > > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the > > sacrifice,> > > > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way?> > > > >> What's the point?!!!> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose > > perfect> > > > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. > > You can't> > > > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of > > essential parts> > > > >> of yourself.> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll > > beat> > > this> > > > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not > > scared and> > > > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED!> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not > > being> > > > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into > > a dark> > > > >> void.> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the > > last 8> > > > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer> > > diagnosis!> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and > > understand that> > > > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to > > learn!> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I> > > know all> > > > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical -> > > > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But > > so> > > > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and> > > USE it> > > > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!!> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and > > look at> > > > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your> > > decision.> > > > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for > > because> > > > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a > > limited> > > > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that > > goes> > > > >> beyond this.> > > > >>> > > > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I> > > mean, how> > > > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the> > > > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a "normal"> > > person??> > > > >>> > > > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' > > but if> > > > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you > > and> > > > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is > > quite> > > > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' > > person is> > > > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that> > > you are> > > > >> capable.> > > > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal > > people> > > > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too> > > long. But> > > > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to > > my Web> > > > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing > > process from> > > > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some> > > > >> inspiration out of it...> > > > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not > > enough to> > > > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be > > in> > > > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that > > you> > > have> > > > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security > > and> > > > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about > > spiritual> > > > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of > > your> > > > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to > > an> > > other> > > > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just > > what> > > your> > > > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self > > knowledge and> > > > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a > > knowledge> > > > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an > > effective way> > > > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com > > (Don't> > > > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my > > experiences!)> > > > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the > > answers> > > > >> will come to you...> > > > >> Namaste> > > > >> BeiYin> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ---> > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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