Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 The way you purchase the Sutherlandia OPC is to go to the website: http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com The price is only $60 now for a one month supply (500ml) of extract, including shipping worldwide. A new capsule version is $45, but at this time I recommend the extract version, which has a four year history of proven results. If for some reason you have difficulty, let me know and I will see what I can do. Marc is extremely busy right now. oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins wrote: > > May, > Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of some of his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks > Bill > - > May > oleander soup > Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM > Re: Question for > > > Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through. > > Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I > am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving > your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold? > > Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although > no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart > does go out to you. > > I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your > dog. They are our most faithful friends. > > Hugs to you, > > > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote: > > > > Bob - > > > > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the > > most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your > > dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far > worse. > > > > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help? > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Tony, > > > > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would > > oleander > > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this > condition? His > > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on > > prednisone > > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him > > these but > > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes, > > progresses > > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again > for > > all that > > > you do. > > > > > > Bob > > > - > > > " Tony " @> > > > <oleander soup > > > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM > > > Re: pissed and confused > > > > > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a > bit > > > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of > relating. > > > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel > feels the > > > > same. > > > > > > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you > have at > > > > FrancoBlanco! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went > to a > > > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try > to share > > > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will > make my > > > >> comment to what you wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% > of the > > > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was > mistakenly > > > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health. > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only > 90% of > > > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you > will have > > > >> an accident. Right? > > > >> > > > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally > healthy > > > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the > holistic > > > >> community standards. > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so > many > > > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you > can't > > > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not > possible. > > > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are > taking > > > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a > > disease. > > > >> > > > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all > possible > > > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal > products, who > > > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, > mostly even > > > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm > just so > > > >> frickin' confused and PISSED! > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems > to be > > > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are > living? > > > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your > carpets, > > > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less > toxic. You > > > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic > and > > > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with > > money one > > > >> can't trust... > > > >> > > > >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's > pissing me > > > >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " > who lives > > > >> this healthily get hit with cancer? > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you > have done > > > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, > because > > > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You > > did the > > > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the > other > > > >> that belongs to you? > > > >> > > > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this > healthily > > > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the > sacrifice, > > > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way? > > > >> What's the point?!!! > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose > perfect > > > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. > You can't > > > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of > essential parts > > > >> of yourself. > > > >> > > > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll > beat > > this > > > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not > scared and > > > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED! > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not > being > > > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into > a dark > > > >> void. > > > >> > > > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the > last 8 > > > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer > > diagnosis! > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and > understand that > > > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to > learn! > > > >> > > > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I > > know all > > > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical - > > > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But > so > > > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and > > USE it > > > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!! > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and > look at > > > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your > > decision. > > > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for > because > > > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a > limited > > > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that > goes > > > >> beyond this. > > > >> > > > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I > > mean, how > > > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the > > > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " > > person?? > > > >> > > > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' > but if > > > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you > and > > > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is > quite > > > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' > person is > > > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that > > you are > > > >> capable. > > > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal > people > > > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too > > long. But > > > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to > my Web > > > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing > process from > > > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some > > > >> inspiration out of it... > > > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not > enough to > > > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be > in > > > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that > you > > have > > > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security > and > > > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about > spiritual > > > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of > your > > > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to > an > > other > > > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just > what > > your > > > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self > knowledge and > > > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a > knowledge > > > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an > effective way > > > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com > (Don't > > > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my > experiences!) > > > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the > answers > > > >> will come to you... > > > >> Namaste > > > >> BeiYin > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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