Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Hello Tony, My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would oleander (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this condition? His immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on prednisone and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him these but without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes, progresses rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again for all that you do. Bob - " Tony " <oleander soup > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM Re: pissed and confused >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a bit > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of relating. > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel feels the > same. > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you have at > FrancoBlanco! > > > > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being wrote: >> >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: >> >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went to a >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try to share >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will make my >> comment to what you wrote: >> >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% of the >> population - but still there was so much more that I was mistakenly >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health. >> >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only 90% of >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you will have >> an accident. Right? >> >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally healthy >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the holistic >> community standards. >> >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so many >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you can't >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not possible. >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are taking >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a disease. >> >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all possible >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal products, who >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, mostly even >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm just so >> frickin' confused and PISSED! >> >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems to be >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are living? >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your carpets, >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less toxic. You >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic and >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with money one >> can't trust... >> >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's pissing me >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " who lives >> this healthily get hit with cancer? >> >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you have done >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, because >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You did the >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the other >> that belongs to you? >> >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this healthily >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the sacrifice, >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way? >> What's the point?!!! >> >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose perfect >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. You can't >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of essential parts >> of yourself. >> >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll beat this >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not scared and >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED! >> >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not being >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into a dark >> void. >> >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the last 8 >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer diagnosis! >> >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and understand that >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to learn! >> >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I know all >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical - >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But so >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and USE it >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!! >> >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and look at >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your decision. >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for because >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a limited >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that goes >> beyond this. >> >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I mean, how >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " person?? >> >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' but if >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you and >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is quite >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' person is >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that you are >> capable. >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal people >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too long. But >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to my Web >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing process from >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some >> inspiration out of it... >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not enough to >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be in >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that you have >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security and >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about spiritual >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of your >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to an other >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just what your >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self knowledge and >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a knowledge >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an effective way >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com (Don't >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my experiences!) >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the answers >> will come to you... >> Namaste >> BeiYin >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Bob - It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far worse. I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help? oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote: > > Hello Tony, > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would oleander > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this condition? His > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on prednisone > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him these but > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes, progresses > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again for all that > you do. > > Bob > - > " Tony " > <oleander soup > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM > Re: pissed and confused > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a bit > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of relating. > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel feels the > > same. > > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you have at > > FrancoBlanco! > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being@> wrote: > >> > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: > >> > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went to a > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try to share > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will make my > >> comment to what you wrote: > >> > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% of the > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was mistakenly > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health. > >> > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only 90% of > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you will have > >> an accident. Right? > >> > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally healthy > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the holistic > >> community standards. > >> > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so many > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you can't > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not possible. > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are taking > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a disease. > >> > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all possible > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal products, who > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, mostly even > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm just so > >> frickin' confused and PISSED! > >> > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems to be > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are living? > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your carpets, > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less toxic. You > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic and > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with money one > >> can't trust... > >> > >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's pissing me > >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " who lives > >> this healthily get hit with cancer? > >> > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you have done > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, because > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You did the > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the other > >> that belongs to you? > >> > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this healthily > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the sacrifice, > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way? > >> What's the point?!!! > >> > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose perfect > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. You can't > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of essential parts > >> of yourself. > >> > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll beat this > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not scared and > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED! > >> > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not being > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into a dark > >> void. > >> > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the last 8 > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer diagnosis! > >> > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and understand that > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to learn! > >> > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I know all > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical - > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But so > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and USE it > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!! > >> > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and look at > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your decision. > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for because > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a limited > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that goes > >> beyond this. > >> > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I mean, how > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " person?? > >> > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' but if > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you and > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is quite > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' person is > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that you are > >> capable. > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal people > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too long. But > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to my Web > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing process from > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some > >> inspiration out of it... > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not enough to > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be in > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that you have > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security and > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about spiritual > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of your > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to an other > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just what your > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self knowledge and > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a knowledge > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an effective way > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com (Don't > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my experiences!) > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the answers > >> will come to you... > >> Namaste > >> BeiYin > >> > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through. Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold? Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart does go out to you. I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your dog. They are our most faithful friends. Hugs to you, oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > Bob - > > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the > most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your > dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far worse. > > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help? > > > > oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever@> wrote: > > > > Hello Tony, > > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would > oleander > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this condition? His > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on > prednisone > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him > these but > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes, > progresses > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again for > all that > > you do. > > > > Bob > > - > > " Tony " @> > > <oleander soup > > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM > > Re: pissed and confused > > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a bit > > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of relating. > > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel feels the > > > same. > > > > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you have at > > > FrancoBlanco! > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being@> wrote: > > >> > > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: > > >> > > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went to a > > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try to share > > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will make my > > >> comment to what you wrote: > > >> > > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% of the > > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was mistakenly > > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health. > > >> > > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only 90% of > > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you will have > > >> an accident. Right? > > >> > > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally healthy > > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the holistic > > >> community standards. > > >> > > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so many > > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you can't > > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not possible. > > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are taking > > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a > disease. > > >> > > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all possible > > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal products, who > > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, mostly even > > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm just so > > >> frickin' confused and PISSED! > > >> > > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems to be > > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are living? > > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your carpets, > > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less toxic. You > > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic and > > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with > money one > > >> can't trust... > > >> > > >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's pissing me > > >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " who lives > > >> this healthily get hit with cancer? > > >> > > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you have done > > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, because > > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You > did the > > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the other > > >> that belongs to you? > > >> > > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this healthily > > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the sacrifice, > > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way? > > >> What's the point?!!! > > >> > > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose perfect > > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. You can't > > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of essential parts > > >> of yourself. > > >> > > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll beat > this > > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not scared and > > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED! > > >> > > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not being > > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into a dark > > >> void. > > >> > > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the last 8 > > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer > diagnosis! > > >> > > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and understand that > > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to learn! > > >> > > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I > know all > > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical - > > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But so > > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and > USE it > > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!! > > >> > > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and look at > > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your > decision. > > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for because > > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a limited > > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that goes > > >> beyond this. > > >> > > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I > mean, how > > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the > > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " > person?? > > >> > > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' but if > > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you and > > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is quite > > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' person is > > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that > you are > > >> capable. > > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal people > > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too > long. But > > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to my Web > > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing process from > > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some > > >> inspiration out of it... > > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not enough to > > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be in > > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that you > have > > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security and > > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about spiritual > > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of your > > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to an > other > > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just what > your > > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self knowledge and > > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a knowledge > > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an effective way > > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com (Don't > > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my experiences!) > > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the answers > > >> will come to you... > > >> Namaste > > >> BeiYin > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Hi Bob, I am new to the list, and haven't yet inro'd myself to all. I am a homeschooling mom with three chikdren in Florida, where there is plenty of Oleander to be found. I'm an alternative health advocate, a student of herbology, researcher, and political activist/organizer. Shirley's Wellness Cafe is a wonderful website with tons of information on alternative healing for pets and people. There aeem to be many causes for canine hemolytic anemia, but in a greta many cases has been linked to vaccines and poisoning from pet shampoos. There is hope for your dog in some natural alternatives such as a raw food diet, and treatments with transfer factors (http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/tf.htm). See links below. Elaine http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petvacc.htm http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/animals.htm http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petvacc.htm#paws http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/avictim.htm On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Tony wrote: Bob -It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is themost potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far worse.I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend.Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help?oleander soup , " bbanever " <bbanever wrote:>> Hello Tony,>> My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would oleander> (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this condition? His> immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now onprednisone> and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him these but> without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes,progresses> rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again forall that> you do.>> Bob > -> " Tony " > <oleander soup >> Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM > Re: pissed and confused>>> >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a bit> > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of relating. > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel feels the> > same.> >> > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you have at> > FrancoBlanco! > >> > Tony> >> > oleander soup , " idbeiyin " <Being@> wrote:> >>> >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote: > >>> >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went to a> >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try to share> >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will make my > >> comment to what you wrote:> >>> >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% of the> >> population - but still there was so much more that I was mistakenly > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health.> >>> >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only 90% of> >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you will have > >> an accident. Right?> >>> >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally healthy> >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the holistic > >> community standards.> >>> >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so many> >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you can't > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not possible.> >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are taking> >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a disease.> >>> >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all possible> >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal products, who> >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, mostly even > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm just so> >> frickin' confused and PISSED!> >>> >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems to be > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are living?> >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your carpets,> >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less toxic. You > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic and> >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected withmoney one> >> can't trust...> >> > >> Angel: It's not even the classic " why ME?! " thing that's pissing me> >> off, but rather the " how in heaven's name can " ANY PERSON " who lives> >> this healthily get hit with cancer? > >>> >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you have done> >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, because> >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You did the> >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the other> >> that belongs to you?> >>> >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this healthily > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the sacrifice,> >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way?> >> What's the point?!!!> >> > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose perfect> >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. You can't> >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of essential parts > >> of yourself.> >>> >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll beatthis> >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not scared and > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED!> >>> >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not being> >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into a dark > >> void.> >>> >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the last 8> >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancerdiagnosis! > >>> >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and understand that> >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to learn!> >>> >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I know all> >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical -> >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But so> >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and USE it> >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!!> >>> >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and look at> >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your decision.> >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for because> >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a limited> >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that goes > >> beyond this.> >>> >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? Imean, how> >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the> >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a " normal " person??> >>> >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' but if> >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you and> >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is quite > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' person is> >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is thatyou are> >> capable.> >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal people > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be toolong. But> >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to my Web> >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing process from > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some> >> inspiration out of it...> >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not enough to> >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be in > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that youhave> >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security and> >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about spiritual > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of your> >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to another> >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just what your> >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self knowledge and> >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a knowledge> >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an effective way > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com (Don't> >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my experiences!) > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the answers> >> will come to you...> >> Namaste> >> BeiYin> >>> >> >> > > > ---> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 May, Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of some of his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks Bill - May oleander soup Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM Re: Question for Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through.Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold?Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart does go out to you.I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your dog. They are our most faithful friends.Hugs to you,oleander soup , "Tony" wrote:>> Bob -> > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the> most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your> dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far worse.> > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help?> > Tony> > oleander soup , "bbanever" <bbanever@> wrote:> >> > Hello Tony,> > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would> oleander > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this condition? His > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on> prednisone > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him> these but > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes,> progresses > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again for> all that > > you do.> > > > Bob> > - > > "Tony" @>> > <oleander soup >> > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM> > Re: pissed and confused> > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a bit> > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of relating.> > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel feels the> > > same.> > >> > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you have at> > > FrancoBlanco!> > >> > > Tony> > >> > > oleander soup , "idbeiyin" <Being@> wrote:> > >>> > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote:> > >>> > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went to a> > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try to share> > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will make my> > >> comment to what you wrote:> > >>> > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% of the> > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was mistakenly> > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health.> > >>> > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only 90% of> > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you will have> > >> an accident. Right?> > >>> > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally healthy> > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the holistic> > >> community standards.> > >>> > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so many> > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you can't> > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not possible.> > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are taking> > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a> disease.> > >>> > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all possible> > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal products, who> > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, mostly even> > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm just so> > >> frickin' confused and PISSED!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems to be> > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are living?> > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your carpets,> > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less toxic. You> > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic and> > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with> money one> > >> can't trust...> > >>> > >> Angel: It's not even the classic "why ME?!" thing that's pissing me> > >> off, but rather the "how in heaven's name can "ANY PERSON" who lives> > >> this healthily get hit with cancer?> > >>> > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you have done> > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, because> > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You> did the> > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the other> > >> that belongs to you?> > >>> > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this healthily> > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the sacrifice,> > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way?> > >> What's the point?!!!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose perfect> > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. You can't> > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of essential parts> > >> of yourself.> > >>> > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll beat> this> > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not scared and> > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not being> > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into a dark> > >> void.> > >>> > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the last 8> > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer> diagnosis!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and understand that> > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to learn!> > >>> > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I> know all> > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical -> > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But so> > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and> USE it> > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and look at> > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your> decision.> > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for because> > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a limited> > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that goes> > >> beyond this.> > >>> > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I> mean, how> > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the> > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a "normal"> person??> > >>> > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' but if> > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you and> > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is quite> > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' person is> > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that> you are> > >> capable.> > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal people> > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too> long. But> > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to my Web> > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing process from> > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some> > >> inspiration out of it...> > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not enough to> > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be in> > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that you> have> > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security and> > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about spiritual> > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of your> > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to an> other> > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just what> your> > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self knowledge and> > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a knowledge> > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an effective way> > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com (Don't> > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my experiences!)> > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the answers> > >> will come to you...> > >> Namaste> > >> BeiYin> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > ---> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 May, I'm new to the group but I've been reading and learning a lot. I was wondering could you tell me how much Colloidal Silver you give your animals? Is it as a preventative measure? I have a small dog...22 pounds....8 years old. She has a tumor on her side. The Vet did a small biopsy and didn't get cancer cells but says that was not a conclusive test. I think the tumor is slowly growing. I was wondering if Colloidal Silver might help. I take Colloidal Silver but have never given to my pet. Thanks......Karen SueBill <w.wilkins wrote: May, Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of some of his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks Bill - May oleander soup Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM Re: Question for Tony Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through.Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold?Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart does go out to you.I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your dog. They are our most faithful friends.Hugs to you,oleander soup , "Tony" wrote:>> Bob -> > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the> most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your> dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far worse.> > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help?> > Tony> > oleander soup , "bbanever" <bbanever@> wrote:> >> > Hello Tony,> > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would> oleander > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this condition? His > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on> prednisone > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him> these but > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes,> progresses > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again for> all that > > you do.> > > > Bob> > - > > "Tony" @>> > <oleander soup >> > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM> > Re: pissed and confused> > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a bit> > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of relating.> > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel feels the> > > same.> > >> > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you have at> > > FrancoBlanco!> > >> > > Tony> > >> > > oleander soup , "idbeiyin" <Being@> wrote:> > >>> > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> wrote:> > >>> > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went to a> > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try to share> > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will make my> > >> comment to what you wrote:> > >>> > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% of the> > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was mistakenly> > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health.> > >>> > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only 90% of> > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you will have> > >> an accident. Right?> > >>> > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally healthy> > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the holistic> > >> community standards.> > >>> > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so many> > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you can't> > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not possible.> > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are taking> > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a> disease.> > >>> > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all possible> > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal products, who> > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, mostly even> > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm just so> > >> frickin' confused and PISSED!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems to be> > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are living?> > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your carpets,> > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less toxic. You> > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic and> > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with> money one> > >> can't trust...> > >>> > >> Angel: It's not even the classic "why ME?!" thing that's pissing me> > >> off, but rather the "how in heaven's name can "ANY PERSON" who lives> > >> this healthily get hit with cancer?> > >>> > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you have done> > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, because> > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You> did the> > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the other> > >> that belongs to you?> > >>> > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this healthily> > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the sacrifice,> > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way?> > >> What's the point?!!!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose perfect> > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. You can't> > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of essential parts> > >> of yourself.> > >>> > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll beat> this> > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not scared and> > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not being> > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into a dark> > >> void.> > >>> > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the last 8> > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer> diagnosis!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and understand that> > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to learn!> > >>> > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I> know all> > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical -> > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But so> > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and> USE it> > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!!> > >>> > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and look at> > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your> decision.> > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for because> > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a limited> > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that goes> > >> beyond this.> > >>> > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I> mean, how> > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the> > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a "normal"> person??> > >>> > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' but if> > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you and> > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is quite> > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' person is> > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that> you are> > >> capable.> > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal people> > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too> long. But> > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to my Web> > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing process from> > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some> > >> inspiration out of it...> > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not enough to> > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be in> > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that you> have> > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security and> > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about spiritual> > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of your> > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to an> other> > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just what> your> > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self knowledge and> > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a knowledge> > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an effective way> > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com (Don't> > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my experiences!)> > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the answers> > >> will come to you...> > >> Namaste> > >> BeiYin> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > ---> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi Karen Sue, First of all, welcome to our group! So glad you are here! Now then, I give my animals one teaspoon of colloidal silver in a standard water bowl per day. I started doing this when I noticed Misty's tumor getting bigger. And she was also 8 years old at the time. Since then, whenever an animal has been ill I have given them colloidal silver and they have cleared up in a matter of days. Now I give it to them every day as a preventative measure. I would venture to say your dog has a fatty tumor like Misty had. The doctor didn't mention that? And yes, they do grow. Is she also a bit sluggish, by chance? Misty seemed to be lethargic. Now she is a different dog and the tumor is gone. Try this. You will notice a marked improvement and that tumor will dissapear. Do you know where to get colloidal silver? If not, and I will tell you from personal experience, Utopia Silver is the best there is, in everything actually. It has the highest quality that I have found anywhere. Just click Utopia Silver Put in the Code LR001 for a 15% discount if it is not on sale. Colloidal silver is one of the things that I will not to without, not for myself, nor my animals I wish you the very best. Let me know how your dog progresses. I have a sneaking suspicion you will see wonderful results in no time. Hugs, oleander soup , Karen Baker <ksbaker54 wrote:>> May,> > I'm new to the group but I've been reading and learning a lot. I was wondering could you tell me how much Colloidal Silver you give your animals? Is it as a preventative measure? I have a small dog...22 pounds....8 years old. She has a tumor on her side. The Vet did a small biopsy and didn't get cancer cells but says that was not a conclusive test. I think the tumor is slowly growing. I was wondering if Colloidal Silver might help. I take Colloidal Silver but have never given to my pet.> > Thanks......Karen Sue> > Bill w.wilkins wrote:> May,> Please send me marc's email ( south african ) I am in need of some of his oleander soup and willing to pay the price. Thanks> Bill> - > May > oleander soup > Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:37 AM> Re: Question for Tony> > > Oh bless your heart Bob, I do know what you must be going through.> > Well, I am certainly not the most knowledgeable at all. And what I > am going to suggest is a mere stab in the dark. What about giving > your dog colloidal silver? Or actually, maybe even colloidal gold?> > Colloidal silver has never failed me with any of my animals, although > no, I have never had to face a situation such as yours and my heart > does go out to you.> > I do wish you all the best and hope that you find the answer for your > dog. They are our most faithful friends.> > Hugs to you,> > > oleander soup , "Tony" @ wrote:> >> > Bob -> > > > It might but I would be hesitant to use it because oleander is the> > most potent immune booster on the planet and so it might make your> > dog's immune system attacks on it's own RBC's and platelets far > worse.> > > > I am sorry to say that I am at a loss as to what to recommend. > > Perhaps others here more knowledgeable than I can help?> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup , "bbanever" <bbanever@> wrote:> > >> > > Hello Tony,> > > > > > My dog has hemolytic anemia, an autoimmune disorder. Would> > oleander > > > (or Sutherlandia OPC) have any positive effect on this > condition? His > > > immune system attacks his own RBC's and platelets. He is now on> > prednisone > > > and cyclosporine to suppress him immune system. I hate giving him> > these but > > > without them he would have died. The disease, when it strikes,> > progresses > > > rapidy and is fatal in a few days if not treated. Thanks again > for> > all that > > > you do.> > > > > > Bob> > > - > > > "Tony" @>> > > oleander soup > > > Monday, April 07, 2008 7:49 PM> > > Re: pissed and confused> > > > > > > > > >I think that your message, while well meaning, may come across a > bit> > > > harsher than you mean it to - as in lecturing instead of > relating.> > > > Nevertheless, I think your intent is good and I hope Angel > feels the> > > > same.> > > >> > > > BTW - I took a look at your website. What a great place you > have at> > > > FrancoBlanco!> > > >> > > > Tony> > > >> > > > oleander soup , "idbeiyin" <Being@> wrote:> > > >>> > > >> oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo@> > wrote:> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: Angel, I will respond to your message because I went > to a> > > >> similar experience and I have learned from it, so I will try > to share> > > >> it, although it goes further then the physical. First I will > make my> > > >> comment to what you wrote:> > > >>> > > >> Angel: I learned that I was already living healthier than 90% > of the> > > >> population - but still there was so much more that I was > mistakenly> > > >> doing that was harmful to my health and my dog's health.> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: If you move in heavy trafic every day and you use only > 90% of> > > >> your attention, then it is likely that sooner or later you > will have> > > >> an accident. Right?> > > >>> > > >> Angel: since then, 8 years ago - I've lived a phenomenally > healthy> > > >> lifestyle in every way that is considered healthy by the > holistic> > > >> community standards.> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: Even though your lifestyle is healthy, there are so > many> > > >> influences from your surrounding that are not healthy and you > can't> > > >> avoid these unless you stay in a sealed room and that's not > possible.> > > >> Depending where you live, in a city or in the country, you are > taking> > > >> in enough toxins, that will accumulate and then might cause a> > disease.> > > >>> > > >> Angel: If a person who is SO disciplined about excluding all > possible> > > >> toxins from her home, from her diet, from her personal > products, who> > > >> eats only hearty, totally organic and unprocessed foods, > mostly even> > > >> raw, uses the most pure and potent supplements, etc. But I'm > just so> > > >> frickin' confused and PISSED!> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: This tells that you are not informed enough. It seems > to be> > > >> impossible to avoid all toxins. In what kind of house you are > living?> > > >> The building material is mostly toxic. Your furniture, your > carpets,> > > >> your cloth, plastic articles you use, all is more or less > toxic. You> > > >> can't be sure that even the biological grown food is not toxic > and> > > >> also not the supplements. Every thing that is connected with> > money one> > > >> can't trust...> > > >>> > > >> Angel: It's not even the classic "why ME?!" thing that's > pissing me> > > >> off, but rather the "how in heaven's name can "ANY PERSON" > who lives> > > >> this healthily get hit with cancer?> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: You are angry now and confused. You think that you > have done> > > >> something wrong. Of course you have done something wrong, > because> > > >> nobody is perfect and nobody can avoid all bad influences. You> > did the> > > >> best you could - on the physical level, but what about all the > other> > > >> that belongs to you?> > > >>> > > >> Angel: Or to turn it around - If ANY PERSON who lives this > healthily> > > >> can get cancer too - what the hell is the point of all the > sacrifice,> > > >> and discipline, and extra money spent to live this healthy way?> > > >> What's the point?!!!> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: The point might be that you come down from your rose > perfect> > > >> cloud of healthy living and get to know more about reality. > You can't> > > >> live perfection on the outside and forget the need of > essential parts> > > >> of yourself.> > > >>> > > >> Angel: I'm not depressed, and I'm not hopeless - I know I'll > beat> > this> > > >> thing. Don't ask me how I know - I just know - so I'm not > scared and> > > >> depressed or anything like that. I'm just so CONFUSED!> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: You are in a good position: being confused and not > being> > > >> depressed. What allows you to ask questions, not falling into > a dark> > > >> void.> > > >>> > > >> Angel: Confused because ALL the knowledge I've gathered in the > last 8> > > >> years completely contradicts the possibility of this cancer> > diagnosis!> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: Again: come down to the floor of reality and > understand that> > > >> your learning was not enough and that there is a lot more to > learn!> > > >>> > > >> Angel: And confused because I can't decide what to do now!? I> > know all> > > >> that knowledge about natural health makes sense, it's logical -> > > >> knowing what I know now. It's reasonable and makes sense. But > so> > > >> what??!! Who cares!!?? The OBJECTIVE wasn't just to KNOW it and> > USE it> > > >> for it's own sake, but rather to AVOID getting sick!!!> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: First you need to calm down, then you can search and > look at> > > >> all the information you are receiving and then you make your> > decision.> > > >> There is coming in more information then you are asking for > because> > > >> all you mention turns around 'natural health' and this is a > limited> > > >> level. It depends on your ability to take in something that > goes> > > >> beyond this.> > > >>> > > >> Angel: And how the hell do I UN-learn all that I know now? I> > mean, how> > > >> do I stuff my face with that doughnut and FORGET about all the> > > >> artificial crap that's in it, so I can enjoy it like a "normal"> > person??> > > >>> > > >> BeiYin: You don't need to unlearn thing about 'natural health' > but if> > > >> you want to live a normal life like every body else around you > and> > > >> that means that you can enjoy junk food, then indeed there is > quite> > > >> something more to learn. That is so much, that a 'normal' > person is> > > >> not capable for it. That's the bad news. The good news is that> > you are> > > >> capable.> > > >> First you need to understand that disease is not what normal > people> > > >> see in it. I can't tell you now, then this post would be too> > long. But> > > >> you are motivated to find out about it yourself. You can go to > my Web> > > >> site, where I have told the story about my self healing > process from> > > >> Fibromyalgia and from an Inguinal Hernia. You might get some> > > >> inspiration out of it...> > > >> Now only that much more: I mentioned before that it is not > enough to> > > >> take care of ones physical aspects. It is also necessary to be > in> > > >> balance with ones emotions and mental. That doesn't mean that > you> > have> > > >> a nice religious or spiritual concept that gives you security > and> > > >> satisfaction. That's the reason why I don't write about > spiritual> > > >> aspects, although of course there you can find the origin of > your> > > >> disease... But I want to avoid that you fly from one cloud to > an> > other> > > >> one! It has more to do with what you really are and not just > what> > your> > > >> self image is. With other words: You need to gain self > knowledge and> > > >> find out about your unconscious background. That means a > knowledge> > > >> that goes beyond your personality. How to do this in an > effective way> > > >> you also can find out at my Web site: http://falconblanco.com > (Don't> > > >> worry, I'm not selling anything, I'm just sharing my > experiences!)> > > >> Keep your positive attitude and go on, ask questions and the > answers> > > >> will come to you...> > > >> Namaste> > > >> BeiYin> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ---> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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