New Members - Where to find information

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As a result of the three articles of mine about oleander that appeared

today at Natural News (http://www.naturalnews.com), one of which was

one of the three featured articles, we have added a number of new

members today.

 

Naturally, many of you come here with a lot of questions. My

suggestion is that before you ask questions that may have been asked

and answered (many times in some instances) that you take a look at

the articles and files here on the website as well as the links (you

will find both in the yellow box to the side of the messages box, just

).

 

You may also use the " search " function here on this site at the top of

the messages list to try to find the topic of your question(s).

 

Insofar as proof of oleander's effectiveness and it's history, there

are numerous links to case histories, testimonials and studies. Both

the www.saludintegral.hn and the www.drozel.org sites have many such

references.

 

Dr. Ozel, who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy in the early

1960s has used it to successfully treat thousands of cancer patients

in his native Turkey and he continues to do so to this day.

 

The best source of information in my prejudiced opinion is my book,

which can be purchased at www.rose-laurel.com. In addition, you can

take a look at the oleander series of articles on my website at

/articles.htm

 

Many of the trials and studies on oleander have been led by noted MD

Anderson scientist, Dr. Robert Newman. MD Anderson is in fact

currently conducting trials on a new oleander based medicine that

contains the same compounds found in the oleander home remedy, the

patented medicine Anvirzel and the dietary supplement Sutherlandia OPC

(http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com), which might be the best option,

since it costs only $60 and is made in a laboratory environment.

 

A member of our group, noted South African HIV and cancer crusader and

researcher Marc Swanepoel devised the OPC about four years ago and it

is the subject of his current doctoral thesis. To date it has had

100% success in stabilizing and reversing HIV symptoms in several

hundred people and over 90% success against a wide range of cancer

types in various stages. The only ones who are not still alive and

well over the past four years are 3 people who were in their very

final days and could not hold the extract (or anything else) down and

five who succumbed to major organ failure as a likely result of prior

chemo.

 

I might also point out that no matter how wonderful I believe oleander

is, I do not think that anything is a magic bullet and I urge everyone

to adapt an entire cancer beating and immune boosting lifestyle and

protocol such as the one I developed from my research into natural

cancer alternatives:

 

/anticancer.htm

 

I hope that answers most of your questions. If you follow my

suggestions and still cannot find the answers you seek, please ask us

- we are here for you.

 

Live long, live healthy, live happy!

 

 

oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote:

>

>

> Me again -

>

> Exploring this Oleander thing - again...

>

> I've read about it innumerable times since my diagnosis but always

put it aside because the information I gathered about it had so many

holes it seemed too much to tackle at the time.

>

> Now, it's time and I hope you can share what you know so I don't

have to re-invent the wheel all by myself again...

>

> The post below reminded me of some of the missing facts that has

prevented me from including this remedy in my arsenal for myself and

all my friends in my local support groups...

>

> 1) Who is this Phoenix spin-off company - Nerium Biotechnology

located in Canada ? Are they they manufacturer? What else do they

manufacture? What is the process they use? Is this a big operation

or is this some guy working from his shed in the back yard? What is

their address and contact info?

>

> 2) What is the toxicity level of homemade oleander soup? In other

words, at what point can it be deadly or cause permanent damage?

Amount ingested or concentration maximum exceeded, or type of oleander

used, or what? And by what mechanism is it deadly? Does it just shut

the liver down or what?

>

> 3) I don't understand this sentence " ...it does cross assay with

digitalis/digoxin, and lip numbness is a sign of contamination -

likely by pesticides such as Malathion. "

> what does that mean? when it is mixed with digitalis it's deadlier?

does Malathion contain digitalis? why would you use oleander that

has been sprayed with Malathion or anything else for that matter?

does this mean that if I'm taking digitalis pills, I under no

circumstance should use the oleander in any form, for cancer?

>

> 4) Where are all these reports and studies and research that's

constantly used as a factual basis for the conclusive oleander

benefits? Not asking for anything done by " pharma " but just the

ACTUAL sources of all these stories, benefits, assumptions? I want to

read these myself and make my own judgments about the FACTS or

fictions involved. So, where are all these documents, stories,

sources that Tony is basing his conviction and promotion on? I want

to discuss this with my naturopath also who is working with me on my

cancer treatment protocol - but I need to talk to him intelligently,

not just parrot some anecdotal hand-me-down stories about who knows

who having been cured who knows where and when.

>

> 5) Do any of these people who say they've been cured and having

surprised their doctors - do these people offer themselves as

references? Do they offer their medical records for review to us to

help us believe it in an intelligent way? Do their doctors offer any

kind of statements or anything anywhere?

>

> 6) Is there a list anywhere of all these " places " or labs or doctors

or researchers involved with the oleander for cancer topic, worldwide

or at least domestically? Like this Nerium Biotech and MD Anderson

and Tony of course and who's continuing the work in Turkey or Israel

or where ever this originated back in the 30ies or 40ies?

>

> 7) And last question I can think of right now - Is there a more

definitive group, list, source for the oleander - cancer relationship,

than this list by Tony?

>

> I hope I haven't offended anyone on this list with my questioning

that, in which you all most likely are already believers. I WANT to

find out that this thing has some substantive data to support it's

promoted benefits. I really do. That's what I'm trying to do by

trying to get some of these obvious holes plugged in with the missing

information.

>

> I appreciate any feedback you can offer.

>

> Thank you,

> Angel

>

> .

> Re: The latest news about oleander

>

> > oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi folks!

> > >

> > > I thought maybe it would be a good time for an update on

> oleander.

> > > The news on the patented medicine Anvirzel is that it continues to

> > > enjoy great success against virtually all kinds of cancers, as

> does

> > > the Sutherlandia OPC dietary supplement and the home made Oleander

> > > Soup Remedy. The big news about Anvirzle is that it is no longer

> made

> > > by Phoenix Bitoech, but instead by the newly formed Phoenix spin-

> off

> > > Nerium Biotechnology located in Canada and operated by former

> Phoenix

> > > employee Dennis Knocke.

> > >

> > > Earlier today I spoke with Dennis and he assured me that they

> remain

> > > supportive of our group, as has been Phoenix, and of my efforts to

> > > help more people discover oleander in ANY form, including the home

> > > remedy. He also agrees that oleander should be quite safe so long

> as

> > > the directions for making it are followed.

> > >

> > > Which reminds me - if you are not going to follow instructions

> EXACTLY

> > > in both making and taking it, then don't attempt it. After

> recently

> > > hearing from a woman who decided to skip the straining (other

> than a

> > > metal juice type strainer), slug it down unmeasured out of the

> bottle

> > > and keep doing so after noticing numbness on her lips, I will have

> > > more to say on that subject in another message. In the interim,

> let's

> > > just remind one and all that oleander IS a highly toxic plant

> that can

> > > kill you in raw form, it does cross assay with digitalis/digoxin,

> and

> > > lip numbness is a sign of contamination - likely by pesticides

> such as

> > > malathion. So, either follow directions or forget it. With the

> > > Sutherlandia OPC (http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com) available for

> only

> > > $60 for a one month supply, it makes little sense to me to make

> your

> > > own anyway, and you also have the benefit of not having to worry

> about

> > > the varying batch strengths which tend to be consistent with the

> > > patented medicine and supplement and cac vary widely in the home

> made

> > > version.

> > >

> > > Back to my discussion with Dennis. While we talked about the

> success

> > > of oleander against virtually all cancers and a few cases in

> > > particular, he reminded me that oleander was without doubt the

> best

> > > option for pancreatic cancer and melanoma. He was talking with

> two

> > > pancreatic cancer patients this past week who are five months out

> from

> > > diagnosis. One uses only oleander and the cancer has stopped

> growing

> > > and the other uses chemo and oleander and the cancer is GONE! They

> > > have other patients who are alive years after being diagnosed with

> > > pancreatic cancer.

> > >

> > > Dennis also mentioned that two other papers were due to be

> published

> > > soon and he will forward them to me to share with you guys and

> gals

> > > (and the world at large) as soon as they are available.

> > >

> > > Meanwhile, in Houston, trials continue at MD Anderson on a new

> pill

> > > form of oleander developed by Phoenix Biotech whereby, according

> to

> > > Phoenix, they use a process with liquid carbon dioxide and micro-

> fine

> > > particles of oleander to extract a much greater amount of

> oleandrin

> > > and the other cardiac glycosides without losing any of the other

> > > supportive compounds.

> > >

> > > And last but not least, the news out of South Africa is that a

> major

> > > press conference will be held soon detailing the tremendous

> successes

> > > of the Sutherlandia OPC dietary supplement against HIV/AIDS and

> cancer

> > > and the new manufacturing facility that has taken over

> production. I

> > > have a series of articles of my own that are being published by

> Mike

> > > Adams Natural News website and I am patiently waiting on the very

> busy

> > > Marc Swanepoel (ahem) to find time to get back to me so that I can

> > > finish the crown piece in the series. I hope you are listening

> Marc!

> > >

> > > Til next time, Live long, live healthy and live happy!

> > >

> > > > > >

> >

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