Vaccination, Immunization, and Children - my response

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I agree Robert - very good article. Thanks for posting it - you beat me to it.Here is my response:Contrary to popular belief, I have never said that there has been no role at all for vaccinations nor that they have all been completely ineffective. Without question vaccine have effects, both good and bad, and have played a role in eliminating more than one disease. Just not nearly the role they try to claim credit for, especially in developed nations where improved hygeine and sanitation, and improved diet and overall medical care have played a much bigger role.

No doubt vaccinations have played a huge role in third world countries (along with some notable mishaps), where it has been more feasible to mass vaccinate at about a dollar or so a shot in most instances than the billions it would take to make the massive upgrades insanitation and hygeine, food and medical care that clearly are the best long term solutions.

While I do not disagree that the public at large should be protected, I believe that the ever growing list of vaccinations may represent more of a danger than a benefit. I also believe that it should be quite clear to anyone not brainwashed by the "just ask your doctor" mininformatin mill that the major drug companies take more credit that is not due and use that together with fear as marketing tool to reap increasing large and obscene profits.

What we should be paying attention to is our natural immunity that could come from a healthy diet and proper nutrition and lifestyle. Those parents who feed their children junk food and the SADS diet, do not encourage a healthy lifestyle and take no steps to eliminate toxins in their environment, as well as practice good hygeine, are far more guilty in my opinion than those parents who weigh the very small odds between infection with the 100% odds of causing irreversible changes in the nervous, immune and other systems from injecting any of the horrible list of ingredients in vaccines into their children when they are most vulnerable and their systems are still developing.

An example of the odds might be the well publicized "pertussis outbreaks" in California last year, where a whopping 24 children were infected and most had not been vaccinated. However, to put that in context, there are over 10,000,000 children in California. And so it would seem reasonable to me to take a 24 in 10 million chance on getting pertussis versus the 100% chance of having your child changed in some way, however small, by the ingredients in vaccines.

Make no mistake, anything you ingest or inject has some effect, however small or large, and there is no safe level of a toxin - just levels that the government has labelled as safe in ppm or ppb. However, the definition of safe is not harmless, but rather not likely to create significant harm - or death. Not likely means that it is nevertheless possible. Those changes may never be noticed, or they may be catastrophic, but you can rest assured that they are there and that the more the child who vaccinates, the less that child will turn out to develop the same as if they had not vaccinated.

Another consideration is that the medical industry itself admits that only two of their vaccines provide better immunity than natural exposure. And a final consideration is that vaccinated children, who are actually infected with viruses, are often the cause of unvaccinated children who have never had normal exposure becoming infected.

And so, to me, it is quite reasonable that many parents

 

 

 

 

 

Vaccine Ingredients

 

 

Below is a list of ingredients in vaccines. (It is not exhaustive - there are other chemicals not in the list.)

If you are tempted to assume that these poisons would only be in harmless quantities in vaccines, note:

1) There is no safe level for some of these poisons, such as formaldehyde and mercury, even if one of them was consumed or injected on its own.

2) Even if the quantity of any given ingredient was within a safe level, remember that a large number of these are being taken in all at once, which can lead to the accumulative toxicity being much higher.

3) Poisons such as formaldehyde and mercury are well known to have a sensitising effect on the body, i.e. they cause increased susceptibility to any foreign substance that it might encounter at the same time or in the future.

4) Even the manufacturers admit to a large list of adverse effects of vaccines, including even death.

The resultant damage, including brain damage, from these toxins can vary from mild enough not to be apparent, through to severe, in some cases death. You cannot inject a living being with these poisons and expect there to be no adverse effect at all. What varies, and varies greatly, is merely the degree of damage. The reason for the large variation in this degree of damage include:

 

great genetic variations in recipients, affecting susceptibility in general and susceptibility to specific vaccines

 

variations within one recipient from one time to another (due to biorhythms, other work the immune system is doing already fighting other infections, how many vaccines have already been given, etc), and

 

variations between vaccine batches - there is an acknowledged weakness in the area of controlling the levels of toxins in vaccines, resulting in some batches being labelled "hot lots". (Sadly even this identification does not necessarily result in recalls, but rather in distributing the "hot lot" as broadly as possible, as revealed in a leaked letter from a pharmaceutical company.)

Post mortems on cot death babies indicate asphyxia, which can be due to the level of poisons being just that little bit too high for these individuals' immature immune systems to mount a defence of the strength and sustained period of time required to deal with them. Adding to the difficulty in dealing with the large load of poisons is the fact that these poisons interfere with the activities of the immune system itself, and thus weaken its ability to eliminate any poisons. In the younger babies the battle is more often lost within hours or a few days from the injection. In the older babies they more often hold out longer and only lose the battle after a few weeks or longer (J Pediatrics 1982).

For chemical profiles and definitions, visit http://www.scorecard.org/.

Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical Encyclopaedia)

Formaldehyde:

(Used in vaccines as a tissue fixative)

Aust. National Research Council: Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the general population may be susceptible to formaldehyde and may react acutely at any exposure level. More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems, on at least 8 federal regulatory lists, ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health (Environmental Defense Fund).

It is not safe at ANY level.

National Academy of Science:There is no population threshold for irritation effects.

National Research Council:Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the general population may be susceptible to formaldehyde and may react acutely at any exposure level.

Formaldehyde is oxidised to formic acid which leads to acidosis and nerve damage. Acidosis can be described as a condition in which the acidity of the body tissues and fluids is abnormally high. The liver and the kidneys may also be damaged.

Other effects:

Eye; nasal; throat and pulmonary irritation; acute sense of smell; alters tissue proteins; anaemia; antibodies formation; apathy; blindness; blood in urine; blurred vision; body aches; bronchial spasms; bronchitis; burns nasal and throat; cardiac impairment; palpitations and arrhythmias; central nervous system depression; changes in higher cognitive functions; chemical sensitivity; chest pains and tightness; chronic vaginitis; colds; coma; conjunctivitis; constipation; convulsions; corneal erosion; cough; death; destruction of red blood cells; depression; dermatitis; diarrhoea; difficulty concentrating; disorientation; dizziness; ear aches; eczema; emotional upsets; ethmoid polyps; fatigue; fecula bleeding; foetal asphyxiation (and they don't know what could cause SIDS?); flu-like or cold like illness; frequent urination with pain; gastritis; gastrointestinal inflammation; headaches; haemolytic anaemia; haemolytic haematuria; hoarseness; hyperactive airway disease; hyperactivity; hypomenstrual syndrome; immune system sensitiser; impaired (short) attention span; impaired capacity to attain attention; inability or difficulty swallowing; inability to recall words and names; inconsistent IQ profiles; inflammatory diseases of the reproductive organs; intestinal pain; intrinsic asthma; irritability; jaundice; joint pain; aches and swelling; kidney pain; laryngeal spasm; loss of memory; loss of sense of smell; loss of taste; malaise; menstrual and testicular pain; menstrual irregularities; metallic taste; muscle spasms and cramps; nasal congestions; crusting and mucosae inflammation; nausea; nosebleeds; numbness and tingling of the forearms and finger tips; pale, clammy skin; partial laryngeal paralysis; pneumonia; post nasal drip; pulmonary oedema; reduced body temperature; retarded speech pattern; ringing or tingling in the ear; schizophrenic-type symptoms; sensitivity to sound; shock; short term memory loss; shortness of breath; skin lesions; sneezing; sore throat; spacey feeling; speaking difficulty; sterility; swollen glands; tearing; thirst; tracheitis; tracheobronchitis; vertigo; vomiting blood; vomiting; wheezing.

References; C. Wilson; Chronic Exposure and Human Health (1993), McFarland & Company taken from Our Toxic Times Feb 1997 pgs 18 & 19.

Mercury:

(Used in vaccines as a preservative.)

Before you say, "But haven't they removed mercury from the vaccines on the childhood vaccination schedule?" read this: http://www.acnem.org/journal/23-2_september_2004/vaccines_and_mercury.htm

See this video filmed by the University of Calgary of an actual brain neuron - watch what happens to it when it is exposed to (a low amount of) mercury: http://commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/ The following is a written article about this video: http://unisci.com/stories/20011/0327013.htm

Mercury is the second most poisonous element known to man (next to uranium and its derivatives). As illustrated in the above video, neurons are observed to disintegrate in its presence. It has also been found to cause changes to chromosomes.

The U.S. has known about the potential problems of thimerosal (compound in vaccines that contains mercury) for many years. The World Health Organization voiced concerns as far back as 1990. Mercury is a highly toxic element which does not easily leave the body. Once ingested, injected, or inhaled, it stays and accumulates. An infant can receive in one day's doses of vaccines as much as the absolute maximum set by the W.H.O. for 3 months of exposure, but it is not safe at ANY level.

Thimerosal is listed as a recognized developmental toxicant as well as a suspected skin or sense organ toxicant by the Environmental Defense Fund1. The following was taken from a website affiliated with the National Institutes for Health2:

"Symptoms of exposure to this class of compounds includes aphthous, stomatitis, catarrhal gingivitis, nausea, liquid stools, pain, liver disorder, injury to the cardiovascular system and hematopoietic system, deafness and ataxia. Exposure may be fatal. Headache, paresthesia of the tongue, lips, fingers and toes, other non-specific dysfunctions, metallic taste, slight gastrointestinal disturbances, excessive flatus and diarrhea may occur. Acute poisoning may cause gastrointestinal irritation and renal failure. Early signs of severe poisoning include fine tremors of extended hands, loss of side vision, slight loss of coordination in the eyes, speech, writing and gait, inability to stand or carry out voluntary movements, occasional muscle atrophy and flexure contractures, generalized myoclonic movements, difficulty understanding ordinary speech, irritability and bad temper progressing to mania, stupor, coma, mental retardation in children, skin irritation, blisters and dermatitis. Other symptoms include chorea, athetosis, tremors, convulsions, pain and numbness in the extremities, nephritis, salivation, loosening of the teeth, blue line on the gums, anxiety, mental depression, insomnia, hallucinations and central nervous system effects. Exposure may also cause irritation of the eyes, mucous membranes and upper respiratory tract."

References:1.) Environmental Defense Fund - http://www.scorecard.com/2.) National Institutes for Health - http://ntp-db.niehs.nih.gov/NTP_Reports/NTP_Chem_H & S/NTP_Chem5/Radian54-64-8.txt

Here is an excerpt from "The Vaccine Guide: Making an Informed Choice" (Randall Neustaedter, North Atlantic Books, 1996):

"Sensitivities to thimerosal in vaccines apparently develop as a result of previous vaccinations (Förström et al., 1980). Even the minute amount of thimerosal used in vaccines (.1 to .01%) can specifically stimulate the immune system and cause sensitization (Aberer, 1991). Mercury is a violent poison with many toxic effects. The toxicity of mercury varies depending on the form in which the element appears. Metallic mercury has different effects than inorganic or organic mercury compounds. However, major differences in toxicity are not expected among the different compounds within the inorganic group of mercury salts (Clement, 1992)...

....The neurologic toxicity symptoms caused by mercury compounds have a delayed onset after exposure (Bakir et al, 1973), which may have significance for the suspected long-term neurologic symptoms of learning disabilities and behaviour disorders associated with vaccines. (For full references, refer to book.)"

 

 

 

Antifreeze:

(This is in the polio vaccine.) Classed as "Very Toxic Material". May lead to kidney, liver, blood and central nervous system (CNS) disorders. Harmful or fatal if swallowed. Effects include behavioural disorders, drowsiness, vomiting, diarrhoea, visual disturbances, thirst, convulsions, cyanosis, and rapid heart rate, CNS stimulation, depression, cardiopulmonary effects, kidney disorders. May also lead to liver and blood disorders. Produces reproductive and developmental effects in experimental animals. (Source: http://www.pennzoil-quakerstate.com/MSDS/014/014978.pdf)

 

Aluminium:

 

EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant. Implicated as a cause of brain damage; suspected factor in Alzheimer's Disease, dementia, convulsions and comas. More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6 ranking systems. On at least 2 federal regulatory lists. (This element is not toxic when only in trace amounts, indeed at such levels is even beneficial to the body, however a trace amount is extremely minute - the level in vaccines is enormously higher, at around 0.5%)

 

2-Phenoxyethanol:

 

EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant, reproductive toxicant. Metabolic poison (i.e. interferes with the metabolism in all cells). Capable of disabling the immune system's primary response. Contains phenol (see below).

 

Phenol:

 

EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka Carbolic Acid, developmental toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems. On at least 8 federal regulatory lists

 

Methanol:

 

Described as a volatile, flammable and poisonous liquid alcohol. In industry, it is used as a solvent and an antifreeze compound in fuel. In the body it is metabolised to formaldehyde (see above). Whilst it can be found naturally in the pectin that is present in some common fruits, it is only in very small quantities in fruit and does not pose a danger to the body in that form.

 

Borax (sodium tetraborate decahydrate):

 

Traditionally used as a pesticide, including ant killer. Suspected cardiovascular or blood toxicant, endocrine toxicant, gastrointestinal or liver toxicant and neurological toxicant. Found to cause reproductive damage and reduced fertility in a study on rats.

 

Glutaraldehyde:

 

Poisonous if ingested (would be worse if injected). Causes birth defects in experimental animals.

 

MSG (monosodium glutamate):

 

In a 1995 report by the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology (FASEB) two groups of people were defined as intolerant of MSG - those who eat large quantities of MSG (which is in many processed foods as a flavour enhancer - # 621) and those with "severe, poorly controlled asthma". (Can you guess now why sensitivity to MSG is so common?) According to this report which was contracted by the FDA the following are symptoms that they found in reaction to MSG.

 

 

A. Burning sensation in the back of the neck, forearms and chestB. Numbness in the back of the neck, radiating to the arms and backC. Tingling, warmth, and weakness in the face, temples, upper back, neck and armsD. Facial pressure or tightnessE. Chest painF. HeadacheG. NauseaI. Rapid heartbeatJ. Bronchospasm (difficulty breathing) in MSG-intolerant people with asthmaK. DrowsinessL. Weakness An FDA web page called "FDA and Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)" states "Injections of glutamate in laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the brain."

In 1978 MSG was removed from baby food and other baby products for infants less than one year of age because the American Academy of Pediatrics and the National Academy of Sciences expressed concerns.

 

 

Sulfate and phosphate compounds

 

(to one or more of which your child may have already developed a severe allergy from past vaccinations.)

 

 

Ammonium Sulfate:

 

EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, neurotoxicant, respiratory toxicant.

 

 

Gentamicin Sulfate:

 

an antibiotic.

 

 

Neomycin Sulfate:

 

an antibiotic. Interferes with Vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the uptake of B6 can cause a rare form of epilepsy and mental retardation.

 

 

Tri(n)butylphosphate:

 

EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant, neurotoxicant. More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems. On at least 1 federal regulatory list.

 

 

Polymyxin B:

 

another antibiotic

 

Polysorbate 20 / 80:

 

EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant. Known to cause cancer in animals.

 

Sorbitol:

 

EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant. Less hazardous than most chemicals in 1 ranking system.

 

Polyribosylribitol:

 

a component of the Hib bacterium.

 

Beta-Propiolactone:

 

EDF Recognized - carcinogen, EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant, respiratory toxicant, skin or sense organ toxicant. More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems. On at least 5 federal regulatory lists. Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to humans.

 

Amphotericin B:

 

MME definition - "a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can occur."

 

Animal organ tissue and blood:

 

Animal cell lines need to be used to culture the viruses in vaccines, so this material is included in the formulation that is injected. Other than when this protein material is digested (i.e. consumed and broken down into its component amino acids, etc, before absorption), it is unusable and toxic to the body. It can also contain many animal viruses (see Animal Viruses).

Animals used include monkey (kidney), cow (heart), calf (serum), chicken (embryo and egg), duck (egg), pig (blood), sheep (blood), dog (kidney), horse (blood), rabbit (brain), guinea pig, etc.

 

Aborted human foetal tissue and human albumin:

 

This is something you might like to consider if you are against abortion. Also from a health point of view tissue from another human (not just animals) is still foreign and therefore toxic to the body.

 

 

Large foreign proteins:

 

In addition to the above accompanying (protein) material, there are large proteins that are deliberately included, used for such purposes as adjuvants (i.e. to help get an immune "response"). Egg album and gelatin (or gelatine, obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-mineralized cattle bones and pork skin) are in several vaccines. Casein (milk protein) is in the triple antigen, i.e. DPT vaccine. As explained above, when injected, proteins are toxic to the body. Hence the immune system "response" - it is stressed by this invasion, which results in sensitisation - it becomes sensitive to these substances, not immune to them.

Is it any wonder, then, that allergies to these substances are now so common (in the case of milk, resulting in the relatively recent emergence of milk alternatives such as soy and rice "milk"s)?

 

Latex:

 

This is in the hepatitis B vaccine which is given routinely to health workers. Have you heard about the problem of the high occurrence of latex allergy among nurses? How do you think they became sensitised to latex? Allergic reactions can be life-threatening. Hepatitis B vaccine is now routinely given to newborn babies in many countries, including Australia and the US.

 

Animal Viruses:

 

Some of these can be particularly alien to the human body. The most frequently documented and publicised example is the monkey virus SV40. This is harmless in monkeys, but inject it into a human and it can cause cancer – in the brain (tumours), bone (e.g. multiple myeloma), lungs (mesothelioma) and lymphoid tissue (lymphoma). It has appeared in people born in the last 20 years (The Journal of Infectious Diseases, Sep 1999;180:884-887), long after the manufacturer claimed to have "cleaned up" the polio vaccine in which it was found. Such cases include the late Alexander Horwin, both of whose parents tested negative for SV40, therefore recent cases cannot just be blamed on inheritance from parents who received the vaccine (see www.ouralexander.org).

 

Human Viruses:

 

The viruses against which the vaccine is supposed to protect are frequently said to be "killed", "inactivated" or "attenuated". This is a myth. The main method used to inactivate viruses is treatment with formaldehyde, whose effectiveness is only limited, and even then only temporary - once the brew is injected into the body and disperses, it is documented in orthodox medical literature that these "killed" viruses can revert to their former virulence. (References for this are available.)

Please note also that whilst the included viruses, bacteria etc against which the vaccine is supposed to protect are claimed to be in "very small doses", the quantities are quite high enough for the diseases to occur, as they can do quite severely, occasionally even leading to death (e.g. deaths reported recently in the Lancet from yellow fever contracted from that vaccine). Indeed a susceptible person can succumb to infection when exposed to only a minute dose (particularly when directly injected), while a sufficiently healthy person will not succumb even when exposed, naturally that is, to an enormous dose. It is not the pathogen, but the interaction between pathogen and host that causes disease to appear (Intervirology 1993).

If the symptoms of a disease do not occur after a vaccine, it cannot be assumed that the person is not or will not be harmed by that pathogen. Most disease symptoms are actually the visible signs of the body's effort to defend itself against the pathogen, and with injections, important defences are bypassed.

 

Bacteria and the toxins they produce:

 

The human blood is supposed to be, and traditionally was, sterile - no bacteria (or other organisms) present in it. That is not the case any more. Naturally this has a weakening effect on the immune system, apart from sometimes leading to severe bacterial infections.

 

Mycoplasma:

 

These are microscopic organisms lacking rigid cell walls and considered to be the smallest free-living organisms. Many are pathogenic and one species is a cause of mycoplasma pneumonia which interestingly is noted to occur "in children and young adults" (Mosby's Medical Dictionary). So, are these only in vaccines by mistake as contaminants? No, believe it or not, they are deliberately included as adjuvants, i.e. to increase the immune system's "response" to the vaccine.

 

Genetically modified yeast:

 

This is in the hepatitis B vaccine. Given the controversy over the ingestion of genetically modified foods, how much less safe, do you think, is the injection of them, particularly considering what follows below?

 

Foreign DNA:

 

This DNA is from such organisms as various animals, animal/human viruses, fungi and bacteria. It has been documented that the injecting foreign DNA can cause it or some of it to be incorporated into the recipient's DNA (see 'Immunisation' Against Diseases for Children). Remember, nature has not experienced such a direct invasion as this before, so can you be sure that it would have developed a way to protect your body against it?oleander soup , robert-blau wrote:>> Very informative and balanced article. It has lots of clickable links in> its original format, available at:> http://www.adz2go.com/mailmgt/templates/JonBarron/Mar08PC2/newsletterlink.html> > Here's a topic that Jon is frequently pressed to write about --> childhood immunizations and vaccinations. Are they safe or aren't they? > Kristen> > Vaccination, Immunization, and Children> by Jon Barron (baselinenutritionals.com)> > In the wisdom of modern medicine, we have created vaccines to "pre-build> memory" for our immune systems -- memories of significant diseases we> have never had, such as measles, mumps, polio, diphtheria, small pox,> etc. Vaccines contain a weakened sterilized version of microorganisms> (or proteins from those microorganisms) that is capable of producing an> immune response in the body without inducing a full-blown onset of the> disease itself. Although vaccines have played a significant role in> helping reduce the number of deaths among children, this benefit has not> come without cost.> > As I mentioned in Lessons from the Miracle Doctors, I have a strong> emotional attachment to this issue, which makes it impossible for me to> be objective. My youngest brother, Peter, was one of those "small> percentage" of children who responded badly to the series of> immunization shots he received back in the early 60s. I was there after> the first two shots when he ran high fevers and cried all night. I was> there when my mother called the pediatrician each time, only to be> reassured that it was nothing to worry about. And I was there after the> third shot, when my mother and I took turns holding Peter and rocking> him to try and comfort him as he screamed at the top of his lungs for> hours on end, ran a fever of 105, and convulsed. As it turns out, the> pediatrician was wrong. My brother, along with thousands of other> children (unfortunately, even a small percentage, when applied to a> large number, still equals thousands of children), reacted to the shots> that ultimately left him severely retarded. > > Although the manufacturer of the vaccine had indications that this was a> possibility, they had not made it clear to the pediatricians who used> it. Also, before 1990, doctors were not legally obligated to report> adverse reactions to vaccines to the Centers for Disease Control; and,> even with the current legal obligation, it's estimated that only 10% of> doctors report the damage they see to the CDC. This sort of reaction to> a vaccine and this sort of irresponsibility by a pharmaceutical company> are not as anomalous as you might think.> > Paralytic Polio> > The polio vaccine is considered one of the great success stories of> modern medicine. Maybe yes, maybe no! Jonas Salk testified before a> Senate subcommittee that since 1961, except for a few importations from> other countries, all cases of polio have been caused by the Oral Polio> Vaccine. In fact, over a number of years, Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin> each accused the other's vaccine of causing polio. Unfortunately, they> were both right!> > First, Jonas Salk's vaccine was responsible for one of the worst> pharmaceutical disasters ever. Just two weeks after the release of his> "miracle" polio vaccine, a series of telephone calls about a strange> outbreak of paralysis in children in California started pouring in. In> each case, paralysis occurred in the arm that was inoculated with Salk's> vaccine, and in each case the vaccine was made by Cutter Laboratories.> Cutter's vaccine was immediately recalled, but 380,000 doses had already> been administered -- mostly to healthy first- and second-graders. Within> months, the Communicable Diseases Center in Atlanta found that Cutter's> vaccine had caused 40,000 cases of mild polio, 200 cases of permanent> paralysis, and 10 deaths. It was one of the worst pharmaceutical> disasters in American history.> > But the Salk vaccine was not alone in causing polio. Salk was correct> when he implicated the Sabin oral vaccine in causing polio. The oral> polio vaccine contains a weakened version of the poliovirus, activating> an immune response in the body. As it turns out, in rare instances,> the virus in the vaccine can mutate into a form that can paralyze. When> this virus regains the ability to circulate, it is called a circulating> vaccine-derived poliovirus (cVDPV). As I said, it is rare -- about 200> cases in the US over the last decade. But if you're one of those cases,> rare doesn't matter.> > And finally, there is strong evidence that the original polio epidemic> itself in the late 1940s was caused (or at least greatly exacerbated) by> another vaccine. The early triple vaccine against diphtheria, whooping> cough, and tetanus has been shown beyond doubt to cause paralytic polio> in some children to whom it was administered. The incidence of polio in> children vaccinated with this shot was statistically greater than in> unvaccinated children. This scandal broke in Britain during 1949, an> epidemic year for polio; other reports soon followed from Australia.> > SV40> > But it's not just polio, there's also SV40, the monkey virus. The polio> vaccine that was given to children in the 50s and 60s was not as> sterilized as originally thought. In fact, when better test equipment> was later used, it was found that there were over 140 live viruses in> those early versions of the polio vaccine. This is not speculation. A> 1999 study affirmed that unique strains of SV40 in commercial polio> vaccines from 1955 were not readily identifiable with then current> testing for SV40 infection. With what result? Well for one thing, SV40> is strongly implicated in a number of cancers, including brain cancer.> > In 2002, three leading SV40 experts (Drs. Gazdar, Butel and Carbone)> published their findings that SV40 should be included in the list of> group 2A carcinogens. For perspective, Group 2A includes: Human> papilloma virus and Kaposi's sarcoma herpes virus/human herpes virus.> > In their book, The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a> Cancer-Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the> Millions of Americans Exposed, Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher state> that between 1997 and early 2003, more than 25 published studies found> SV40 in human mesotheliomas; 16 others found the virus in brain and bone> cancers, lymphomas, and other cancers, and in kidneys and peripheral> blood. As of 2003, SV40 had been found in human tumors in 18 developed> countries. Bookchin and Schumacher claim that the rates of SV40-positive> tumors seem highest in countries that used the greatest amount of> contaminated Salk polio vaccine, including the UK, USA, and Italy.> > Thimerosal> > In addition to the "active" part of the vaccine, the vaccine includes> substances such as ethylene glycol (antifreeze), formaldehyde (a known> carcinogen), and aluminum & hellip;and, of course, thimerosal, the mercury> based preservative.> > Every couple of months, a new study or medical pronouncement is released> "claiming" that thimerosal is safe -- that it doesn't cause autism. But> the claims of safety are inaccurate, and the claims related to autism> too limited. > > Recently, for example, an Argentinean study was released that found,> "the levels of thimerosal [in childhood vaccinations] don't go very high> and they go down right away. By the time it's time for the next dose of> vaccine, the levels are right back to where they were at the beginning."> The study found that the half-life of ethyl mercury in the blood -- the> time it takes for the body to get rid of half the mercury, and then> another half, and so on -- was 3.7 days. That's significantly less than> the half-life of methyl mercury, the kind found in fish, at 44 days.> Bottom line: according to the study's authors, the study proved that the> controversial mercury-containing preservative thimerosal is rapidly> excreted from babies' bodies and can't build up to toxic levels.> > Unfortunately, the data showed no such thing.> > According to the study's methodology, the infants in the study were put> into three age groups and their blood-mercury levels were tested both> before and after vaccinations were given to newborns, and at their two-> and six-month checkups.> Excuse me, but let's use our brains here for a moment -- assuming they> haven't been damaged by exposure to mercury.> Just because blood levels of mercury drop doesn't necessarily mean that> the mercury has been excreted from the body -- only that it has left the> bloodstream. Those are two very different conclusions. Since the study> didn't monitor urine levels of mercury, there's no way to tell if it> left the body. In fact, experience tells us that mercury does not easily> leave the body, that it in fact "electrically binds" with soft tissue,> bones, and even brain matter. If anything, the study should potentially> raise alarm bells -- indicting that ethyl mercury binds with cellular> tissue and locks into the body far faster than methyl mercury. Without> the urine testing, there's no way to know.> > Bottom line: Mercury does not easily "metabolize" and pass out of the> body. It remains for years and years locked to body tissue. If you want> to get rid of it, you have to chelate it out. Make no mistake, this> study has not proven thimerosal safe. It may not cause autism, but that> doesn't mean that it's safe. > In fact, it's no secret that mercury is one of the most toxic metals> known. Numerous studies have shown its impact on health. There is strong> evidence that mercury lowers T-Cell counts. This, alone, implicates it> in cancer, autoimmune diseases, allergies, Candida overgrowth, and> multiple sclerosis. In fact, due to other studies that showed mercuric> chloride increased several types of tumors in rats and mice, and methyl> mercury caused kidney tumors in male mice, the EPA has determined that> mercuric chloride and methyl mercury are possible human carcinogens. It> has also been shown that mercury cuts the oxygen carrying capacity of> blood by half. This would account for many instances of chronic fatigue.> > Mercury also has an affinity for brain tissue and is implicated in brain> tumors and dementia (think mad as a hatter). And, finally, mercury has> an affinity for fetal tissue, which accounts for its implication in> birth defects. In 2002, the National Academy of Sciences found strong> evidence for the toxicity of methyl mercury to children's developing> brains, even at low levels of exposure. A 2005 study from the Centers> for Disease Control found that as many as 637,233 American children are> born each year with mercury levels of more than 5.8 µg/L (5.8> micrograms per liter), the level associated with brain damage and loss> of IQ.> > To be sure, some study may ultimately prove that injecting infants with> the second most toxic metal known to man (just behind plutonium) is> safe, but no study so far has proven that -- not by a long shot (all> puns intended)..> And of course, there is the recent court ruling on Hannah Poling that> found that the vaccinations she received "significantly aggravated an> underlying mitochondrial disorder, which predisposed her to deficits in> cellular energy metabolism, and manifested as a regressive> encephalopathy with features of autism spectrum disorder."> VICP> > On October 1, 1988, the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986> (Public Law 99-660) created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation> Program (VICP). Officially, the VICP was established to ensure an> adequate supply of vaccines, stabilize vaccine costs, and establish and> maintain an accessible and efficient forum for individuals found to be> injured by certain vaccines. In reality, it was designed to protect> vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits so that they would not feel> "legally" constrained in their ability to produce vaccines as necessary.> Indeed, it was established in response to a liability crisis centering> around children's vaccines -- specifically, the same DTP immunization> shots which had destroyed my brother's brain some years earlier. The> VICP is a no-fault alternative to the traditional tort system for> resolving vaccine injury claims that provides compensation to people> found to be injured by certain vaccines. > > To date, over $1.5 billion has been paid out ( post-1988 and pre-1988).> That's a surprisingly large number for injuries caused by vaccines> promoted as perfectly safe -- and it doesn't begin to tell the real> story. As it turns out, over 75% of all claims for permanent immune> system and brain damage following immunization of the mandated vaccines> are rejected for payment by the fund. That would put the true cost in> the US alone at over $6 billion dollars, not to mention the far larger> number of people who do not even know the fund exists and, therefore,> never file at all. Total it up and you're now looking at a rather> frighteningly high injury cost for "safe, mandated childhood> vaccinations."> Note: On average, in the United States, children are now required to> receive some 33 doses of 9 different vaccines in order to attend school.> > The success of vaccines> > Okay, we've dealt with the myth that vaccines are perfectly safe and> looked at their downside. But there is also a myth that vaccines do not> work, and that is equally untrue.> > 12 vaccine preventable diseases and disease rates have been reduced by> 99% in the U.S. These include mumps, measles, diphtheria, whooping> cough/pertussis, and tetanus to name a few. > > 50 years ago in the United States, polio paralyzed more than 16,000> children and killed nearly 2,000 annually. That doesn't happen any more > > The Global Polio Eradication Initiative, spearheaded by the World Health> Organization, Rotary International, the CDC and UNICEF, was begun in> 1988. That year, an estimated 350,000 children were paralyzed with polio> worldwide; in 2004, polio cases had fallen to just over 1,200 cases> globally. > > And Smallpox.> > On the other hand, much of this success may not be related to> vaccinations at all. Statistical evidence clearly indicates that the> mortality rates of most of the diseases that vaccines have claimed> victory over were already dropping precipitously even before the vaccine> was introduced. In fact, in most cases, you can't even notice a> statistical blip after the introduction of vaccines. To be fair,> mortality rates are not the same as incidence rates and can be> reflective of better medical care.> > Parents opting out of immunization> > There is now a fairly substantial movement of parents who wish to avoid> childhood immunizations. To be sure, all states except Mississippi and> West Virginia allow a religious exemption to vaccination for those> people who hold a sincere religious belief opposing vaccination such> that it would be an infringement on their right to exercise their> religious beliefs. Some 20 states also allow exemptions for parents> whose "personal beliefs" prompt them to skip vaccination for their> children. In 1991, approximately 1% of children in the US went> unvaccinated. By 2004, that number was up to 2.5%. At first glance, 2.5%> might not seem like a big deal, but with approximately 40 million> children under the age of 10, you're talking upwards of 1 million> unvaccinated children.> > The downside> > Yes, there is a downside. One of the main reasons that parents can> successfully opt their children out of vaccination programs is because> those programs have been somewhat successful. > > Last month in San Diego, 12 kids fell ill with the measles, a once> common childhood disease now rarely seen in this country. Nine of the> kids had skipped vaccination because their parents objected; the other> three were too young to receive the vaccine. As Dr. Mark Sawyer, a> pediatrician and infectious disease specialist at Rady Children's> Hospital in San Diego, told the New York Times, "The very success of> immunizations has turned out to be an Achilles' heel. Most of these> parents have never seen measles, and don't realize it could be a bad> disease so they turn their concerns to unfounded risks. They do not> perceive risk of the disease but perceive risk of the vaccine."> > On the other hand, Dr. Sawyer would have a harder time using lack of> immunization as an excuse for an outbreak of mumps in 2006 that infected> over 400 people, considering that all but one of the infected Kansas> students had received two doses of the Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine.> > And then, of course, a whooping cough outbreak in Children's Hospital in> Boston in 2006, also had nothing to do with lack of immunizations, but> rather, appears to have been caused by a surgeon who contracted the> disease while on military reserve duty and brought it back to the> hospital. > > Conclusion> > So where does that leave us?> > In opposing ideological war rooms, we find the anti-vaccination movement> that sees no benefit in any vaccination program and the medical> establishment that believes, like Dr. Sawyer, that no possible vaccine> should be left unused. > > And on the actual battlefield, we find parents like Sybil Carlson, who> is quoted in the NYT article as saying, "I refuse to sacrifice my> children for the greater good" opposed by government bureaucrats who> look to mandate an ever increasing number of questionable vaccines.> What to do? What to do? What to do?> > Unfortunately, the answer is not clear cut. > And even what is known is far more nuanced than black and white. Even> Mr. Spock's logical dictum from Star Trek "The needs of the many> outweigh the needs of the few" is not black and white in this case. Why?> Consider what we've discussed.> > Yes, you can make the case that childhood vaccinations have dramatically> helped to reduce infant mortality. > > On the other hand, statistical evidence shows that they deserve far less> credit for reducing this mortality than they receive. > And yes, as Mr. Spock would say, society has the right to protect itself> from massive outbreaks of disease even if a small percentage of children> are harmed. > But do society's representatives have the right to deliberately lie> about the dangers inherent in mandated vaccinations? > And where does it stop? Does the government have the right to mandate> that preschoolers get vaccinated for the flu every year, or for HPV, or> even for HIV before a vaccine is even proven to work? > > And what do you tell the thousands of children throughout the world (as> small as the percentage might be) when their brains are destroyed, or> they get cancer, or asthma? What should I have told my brother, whom I> was very close to, before he passed away -- that he died for the greater> good? > > Look, I'm not saying vaccines should be eliminated (besides, that's not> going to happen anyway) -- just that we should use a lot more> discrimination than we are at the moment in their application. > > Eventually, it's possible that new techniques of genetic engineering, by> being able to totally isolate the offending antigen, may be able to> offer a safer form of vaccine. But until that day & hellip;> We need to be a lot more selective as to which vaccines are mandated and> which are discretionary. > > We need to remove any ingredients like Thimerosal that give rise to any> question concerning their safety. Wasting time on studies "proving" that> thimerosal may not cause autism is unconscionable. Let's get real here.> Mercury is one of the most toxic substances known to man. Its effects> are cumulative. It doesn't easily leave the body. Just because it may> not cause autism doesn't mean it isn't slowly killing you. Thimerosal> can be easily replaced in any vaccine. Not doing so undermines any> credibility the medical community has regarding their concern for public> safety. > > We need to have full disclosure on the true benefits of vaccination> programs -- not the inflated propaganda numbers currently touted. And we> need full disclosure concerning the side effects and resultant injuries. > > And finally, we need to update programs like the VICP that keep their> figures artificially rosy by rejecting ¾ of all injury claims. > > And for those of you who choose not to immunize your children, there is> a cautionary that may alter the equation. As long as most of the> children in your neighborhood are getting immunized, then the likelihood> of your child contracting a serious childhood illness is minimal -- and> in most first world countries that has been true for some time. But with> the increase in globalization, the increase in travel from third world> countries as economies shift, the increase in immigration from poorer to> wealthier countries, that protective cocoon is disappearing. Every day,> the risk of exposure to long absent childhood diseases is increasing.> You now have to weigh that increasing, but unknown, risk against the> very real risks inherent in many of the vaccines now available that> might offer a modicum of protection. And that's your call -- not mine,> nor the government's (at least for now). > > Premium versions of Jon's formulas are available at> www.baselinenutritionals.com > The information provided in this newsletter is for informational> purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for advice from your> physician or other health care professional or any information contained> on or in any product label or packaging. You should not use the> information in this newsletter for diagnosis or treatment of any health> problem or for prescription of any medication or other treatment. You> should consult with a healthcare professional before starting any diet,> exercise or supplementation program, before taking any medication, or if> you have or suspect you might have a health problem. You should not stop> taking any medication without first consulting your physician. > © 2008 by The Baseline of Health Foundation. All rights reserved.>

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Howdy, I'm a Newbie and I was wondering if there are people who have tried leander Soup and have anecdotal reports or testimonies... if I am not on the correct site please help... Many thnx~ MC

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Hello Mister Cee,In the files in this group you should find some reports of people who have used Oleander Soup (OS). I take OS every day. 1 tbsp. and I have 2 friends with prostate CA and 1 friend with Breast CA who are taking it daily. I do not have and have not had CA, but use it in my prevention regimen. The two friends are doing o.k. right now. The friend with the Breast CA has used other natural treatments and also chemo and surgery. The 2 friends with prostate CA are both only using natural treatments as they are older (70's) and feel that chemo and surgery would be to harsh on their bodies. If you go back and look at my posts you will see my updates on Mary Ann (the friend with Breast CA) it has been a while since I posted on her, and I need to do it soon. (search the posts for jeffery.jack and you should find all of the posts). I only try and post relevant and important

information.You should buy Tony's PDF "Cancers Natural Enemy" and I personally think that the PDF Book called "Cancer Free" by Bill Henderson is a very good book with lots of good information. Mister Cee <mister.cee wrote: Howdy, I'm a Newbie and I was wondering if there are people who have tried leander Soup and have anecdotal reports or testimonies... if I am not on the correct site please help... Many thnx~ MC

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Hello Mister Cee,In the files in this group you should find some reports of people who have used Oleander Soup (OS). I take OS every day. 1 tbsp. and I have 2 friends with prostate CA and 1 friend with Breast CA who are taking it daily. I do not have and have not had CA, but use it in my prevention regimen. The two friends are doing o.k. right now. The friend with the Breast CA has used other natural treatments and also chemo and surgery. The 2 friends with prostate CA are both only using natural treatments as they are older (70's) and feel that chemo and surgery would be to harsh on their bodies. If you go back and look at my posts you will see my updates on Mary Ann (the friend with Breast CA) it has been a while since I posted on her, and I need to do it soon. (search the posts for jeffery.jack and you should find all of the posts). I only try and post relevant and important

information.You should buy Tony's PDF "Cancers Natural Enemy" and I personally think that the PDF Book called "Cancer Free" by Bill Henderson is a very good book with lots of good information. I hope that this information helps.Many blessings,JeffMister Cee <mister.cee wrote: Howdy, I'm a Newbie and I was wondering if there are people who have tried leander Soup and have anecdotal reports or testimonies... if I am not on the correct site please help... Many thnx~ MC

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