Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Mary - How long have you been taking OS and how has your cancer and tumors responded so far? What is the topical black salve for? Is it the real deal - with blood root? The stuff I am using now for a spot on my face is eating a huge hole in my cheek - YEEEOOOOCH! I am not sure where you might find Inositol/IP6 in Australia, or high quality colloidal silver. If I were to make my own colloidal silver I would use the Silver Puppy machine, in my opinion the best by far for the money. I will see what I can find out, including possibly shipping from Utopia Silver to Australia. Be SURE to answer my questions! oleander soup , " Mary " <maihards wrote: > > Hi Tony, I am successfully taking OS preserved with vodka! Just read > your updated protocol. I am/have been following most of it and will > add the parts I haven't been doing. Where do I purchase Inositol/IP6 > and Utopia quality colloidal silver here in Australia? How do I know > it is good/reliable product. > I have just received my first order of Marc's OPC. I am taking the OS > 1 tablespoon tds, on all the recommended supplements plus a few > others, doing a liver/gallbladder cleanse from Tues next week. I have > done 3 courses of black salve internally and 2 topically. Then I will > start Sutherlandia OPC. > Also because of family and friends concern/pressure I have seen > doctors again. With the idea to de-bulk. The surgeon doesn't want to > operate until I have taken measures to, and have reduced the size of > tumors in left breast and axilla. I had a CT scan which confirms it is > local. I am to see an oncoligist next Wednesday and consult with > complementary medical practitioner next week. > I have not had surgery, chemo or radiation. > I have had and still having an incredible journey with GOD my FATHER. > Knowing Him more and better. I am positive. I know that He is in > control and I am following the leads He gives me. I praise Him and > thank Him. He is my refuge and strength. > Thank you for being part of my journey and healing. > Mary k > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Tony, I started in Nov 2007 for about 10 days and it was contaminated with lead and platinum and lead free petrol. I stopped and made some more with colloidal silver, took it for 10 days and it went fizzy. I stopped that. Started again three weeks ago and am taking 1 tablespoon 3 X daily. The tumors have grown since I first started the OS but not in the last three weeks. I not sure how to say they have responded. Perhaps the time has not been sufficient to make a difference. I was taking the black salve(zinc chloride, water, chaparral, bloodroot, graviola) 1small pea size in gelatin capsule 3 X daily. I also applied it externally at 2 separate sites at different times, waiting for one wound to heal before applying to new area where the tumors could be felt. Yes I had substantial holes on the side of my breast. The scabs produced a lot of pus. The areas have healed over now with new skin. Yes it was a painful experience. I am contemplating another session with black salve internally I believe my change in diet, lifestyle and supplements has kept the breaks on progression. God is on this case big time. I have a regular body function test done by examination of my siliva and it shows progress. Just wonder whether the OS will work faster than the cancer wants to grow? My son is in the USA for an undetermined time. He could possible bring back a "Silver Puppy" and some Inositol/IP6. Thank you, Gods blessings on you, Mary ---- 2/02/2008 4:12:25 PM oleander soup Re: Tony need info Mary -How long have you been taking OS and how has your cancer and tumorsResponded so far? What is the topical black salve for? Is it theReal deal - with blood root? The stuff I am using now for a spot onMy face is eating a huge hole in my cheek - YEEEOOOOCH!I am not sure where you might find Inositol/IP6 in Australia, or highQuality colloidal silver. If I were to make my own colloidal silver IWould use the Silver Puppy machine, in my opinion the best by far forThe money.I will see what I can find out, including possibly shipping fromUtopia Silver to Australia.Be SURE to answer my questions!Tonyoleander soup , "Mary" <maihards wrote:>> Hi Tony, I am successfully taking OS preserved with vodka! Just read> your updated protocol. I am/have been following most of it and will> add the parts I haven't been doing. Where do I purchase Inositol/IP6> and Utopia quality colloidal silver here in Australia? How do I know> it is good/reliable product. > I have just received my first order of Marc's OPC. I am taking the OS> 1 tablespoon tds, on all the recommended supplements plus a few> others, doing a liver/gallbladder cleanse from Tues next week. I have> done 3 courses of black salve internally and 2 topically. Then I will> start Sutherlandia OPC. > Also because of family and friends concern/pressure I have seen> doctors again. With the idea to de-bulk. The surgeon doesn't want to> operate until I have taken measures to, and have reduced the size of> tumors in left breast and axilla. I had a CT scan which confirms it is> local. I am to see an oncoligist next Wednesday and consult with> complementary medical practitioner next week.> I have not had surgery, chemo or radiation. > I have had and still having an incredible journey with GOD my FATHER.> Knowing Him more and better. I am positive. I know that He is in> control and I am following the leads He gives me. I praise Him and> thank Him. He is my refuge and strength. > Thank you for being part of my journey and healing.> Mary k> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I relate to your experience and feel your pain with the black salve - in fact, I am feeling it now! I am not sure what happened with your first couple of batches of oleander, at least not with the one with the silver. The first one was simply contaminated - it sounds like the oleander came from plants growing by the side of a very busy road. As for as the second batch, I have seen many batches treated here with silver now (a very good silver) and have not seen the fizziness happen, which is of course fermentation. It sounds like your latest batch has turned out well and it will be good to not have the on-again, off-again attempts to use the OS. I would be willing to bet that the fact that your tumors have not grown during the same time as you have been taking the recent batch is not coincidental. I am also sure that your overall healthy lifestyle plays an important role too. Maybe your son could order some Cell Forte from Utopia Silver while he is here. If feasible, he could also get their colloidal silver - which can be purchased in gallon and even five gallon sizes. The first purchase is buy-one get-one-free. And remember, any item (such as Inositol) from US that is not on sale is available to the group here at 15% off if you use the code LR001 and follow one of the links on my website (tbyil.com). I also found that US has customers in Australia and can ship whatever you wish to order to you. The savings might be substantial in postage if your son were to get the items you want - however, there is the consideration of time, and you might just want to get some inositol quickly to see how it does. Mary, be very careful to keep your liver protected and cleansed. According to Gerson, cancer never appears except when the liver is impaired to begin with, and a successful cancer elimination program will put further stress on your liver. You can rebuild and protect it though. Besides regular cleanses, milk thistle is the best liver protector and regenerator. Also believed to be important is alpha-lipoic acid, selenium, turmeric, beet juice and coconut oil. I do ALL of them (in fact, I do everything in this message), except have not yet been able to find any beet juice (yuck). Perhaps a trip to eclectic Austin will be the solution? oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards wrote: > > Tony, I started in Nov 2007 for about 10 days and it was contaminated with > lead and platinum and lead free petrol. I stopped and made some more with > colloidal silver, took it for 10 days and it went fizzy. I stopped that. > Started again three weeks ago and am taking 1 tablespoon 3 X daily. The > tumors have grown since I first started the OS but not in the last three > weeks. I not sure how to say they have responded. Perhaps the time has not > been sufficient to make a difference. > I was taking the black salve(zinc chloride, water, chaparral, bloodroot, > graviola) 1small pea size in gelatin capsule 3 X daily. I also applied it > externally at 2 separate sites at different times, waiting for one wound to > heal before applying to new area where the tumors could be felt. Yes I had > substantial holes on the side of my breast. The scabs produced a lot of pus. > The areas have healed over now with new skin. Yes it was a painful > experience. I am contemplating another session with black salve internally > I believe my change in diet, lifestyle and supplements has kept the breaks > on progression. God is on this case big time. > I have a regular body function test done by examination of my siliva and it > shows progress. Just wonder whether the OS will work faster than the cancer > wants to grow? > My son is in the USA for an undetermined time. He could possible bring back > a " Silver Puppy " and some Inositol/IP6. > > Thank you, Gods blessings on you, > Mary > > > ---- > > > 2/02/2008 4:12:25 PM > oleander soup > Re: Tony need info > > Mary - > > How long have you been taking OS and how has your cancer and tumors > Responded so far? What is the topical black salve for? Is it the > Real deal - with blood root? The stuff I am using now for a spot on > My face is eating a huge hole in my cheek - YEEEOOOOCH! > > I am not sure where you might find Inositol/IP6 in Australia, or high > Quality colloidal silver. If I were to make my own colloidal silver I > Would use the Silver Puppy machine, in my opinion the best by far for > The money. > > I will see what I can find out, including possibly shipping from > Utopia Silver to Australia. > > Be SURE to answer my questions! > > > > oleander soup , " Mary " <maihards@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tony, I am successfully taking OS preserved with vodka! Just read > > your updated protocol. I am/have been following most of it and will > > add the parts I haven't been doing. Where do I purchase Inositol/IP6 > > and Utopia quality colloidal silver here in Australia? How do I know > > it is good/reliable product. > > I have just received my first order of Marc's OPC. I am taking the OS > > 1 tablespoon tds, on all the recommended supplements plus a few > > others, doing a liver/gallbladder cleanse from Tues next week. I have > > done 3 courses of black salve internally and 2 topically. Then I will > > start Sutherlandia OPC. > > Also because of family and friends concern/pressure I have seen > > doctors again. With the idea to de-bulk. The surgeon doesn't want to > > operate until I have taken measures to, and have reduced the size of > > tumors in left breast and axilla. I had a CT scan which confirms it is > > local. I am to see an oncoligist next Wednesday and consult with > > complementary medical practitioner next week. > > I have not had surgery, chemo or radiation. > > I have had and still having an incredible journey with GOD my FATHER. > > Knowing Him more and better. I am positive. I know that He is in > > control and I am following the leads He gives me. I praise Him and > > thank Him. He is my refuge and strength. > > Thank you for being part of my journey and healing. > > Mary k > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Tony< I need help desperately. Someone sent a message (olender Soup) Foods that heal. It was from May. I'll send the the request to her also. I hope at least one can resend it. Thanks , 7 families are providing food for a friend of mine that has pancreatic cancer that his doctor has said has already spread to his liver. There may not be enough time for oleander soup. Any help the forum passes along on this one would be appreciated! Thanks Bill Wilkins w.wilkins - Tony oleander soup Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:31 AM Re: Tony need info I relate to your experience and feel your pain with the black salve -in fact, I am feeling it now!I am not sure what happened with your first couple of batches ofoleander, at least not with the one with the silver. The first onewas simply contaminated - it sounds like the oleander came from plantsgrowing by the side of a very busy road.As for as the second batch, I have seen many batches treated here withsilver now (a very good silver) and have not seen the fizzinesshappen, which is of course fermentation.It sounds like your latest batch has turned out well and it will begood to not have the on-again, off-again attempts to use the OS. Iwould be willing to bet that the fact that your tumors have not grownduring the same time as you have been taking the recent batch is notcoincidental. I am also sure that your overall healthy lifestyleplays an important role too.Maybe your son could order some Cell Forte from Utopia Silver while heis here. If feasible, he could also get their colloidal silver -which can be purchased in gallon and even five gallon sizes. Thefirst purchase is buy-one get-one-free. And remember, any item (suchas Inositol) from US that is not on sale is available to the grouphere at 15% off if you use the code LR001 and follow one of the linkson my website (tbyil.com).I also found that US has customers in Australia and can ship whateveryou wish to order to you. The savings might be substantial in postageif your son were to get the items you want - however, there is theconsideration of time, and you might just want to get some inositolquickly to see how it does.Mary, be very careful to keep your liver protected and cleansed.According to Gerson, cancer never appears except when the liver isimpaired to begin with, and a successful cancer elimination programwill put further stress on your liver. You can rebuild and protect itthough. Besides regular cleanses, milk thistle is the best liverprotector and regenerator. Also believed to be important isalpha-lipoic acid, selenium, turmeric, beet juice and coconut oil. Ido ALL of them (in fact, I do everything in this message), except havenot yet been able to find any beet juice (yuck). Perhaps a trip toeclectic Austin will be the solution?Tonyoleander soup , "mary k" <maihards wrote:>> Tony, I started in Nov 2007 for about 10 days and it wascontaminated with> lead and platinum and lead free petrol. I stopped and made some morewith> colloidal silver, took it for 10 days and it went fizzy. I stopped that.> Started again three weeks ago and am taking 1 tablespoon 3 X daily. The> tumors have grown since I first started the OS but not in the last three> weeks. I not sure how to say they have responded. Perhaps the timehas not> been sufficient to make a difference. > I was taking the black salve(zinc chloride, water, chaparral, bloodroot,> graviola) 1small pea size in gelatin capsule 3 X daily. I alsoapplied it> externally at 2 separate sites at different times, waiting for onewound to> heal before applying to new area where the tumors could be felt. YesI had> substantial holes on the side of my breast. The scabs produced a lotof pus.> The areas have healed over now with new skin. Yes it was a painful> experience. I am contemplating another session with black salveinternally> I believe my change in diet, lifestyle and supplements has kept thebreaks> on progression. God is on this case big time. > I have a regular body function test done by examination of my silivaand it> shows progress. Just wonder whether the OS will work faster than thecancer> wants to grow?> My son is in the USA for an undetermined time. He could possiblebring back> a "Silver Puppy" and some Inositol/IP6.> > Thank you, Gods blessings on you,> Mary> > > ----> > Tony> 2/02/2008 4:12:25 PM> oleander soup > Re: Tony need info> > Mary -> > How long have you been taking OS and how has your cancer and tumors> Responded so far? What is the topical black salve for? Is it the> Real deal - with blood root? The stuff I am using now for a spot on> My face is eating a huge hole in my cheek - YEEEOOOOCH!> > I am not sure where you might find Inositol/IP6 in Australia, or high> Quality colloidal silver. If I were to make my own colloidal silver I> Would use the Silver Puppy machine, in my opinion the best by far for> The money.> > I will see what I can find out, including possibly shipping from> Utopia Silver to Australia.> > Be SURE to answer my questions!> > Tony> > oleander soup , "Mary" <maihards@> wrote:> >> > Hi Tony, I am successfully taking OS preserved with vodka! Just read> > your updated protocol. I am/have been following most of it and will> > add the parts I haven't been doing. Where do I purchase Inositol/IP6> > and Utopia quality colloidal silver here in Australia? How do I know> > it is good/reliable product. > > I have just received my first order of Marc's OPC. I am taking the OS> > 1 tablespoon tds, on all the recommended supplements plus a few> > others, doing a liver/gallbladder cleanse from Tues next week. I have> > done 3 courses of black salve internally and 2 topically. Then I will> > start Sutherlandia OPC. > > Also because of family and friends concern/pressure I have seen> > doctors again. With the idea to de-bulk. The surgeon doesn't want to> > operate until I have taken measures to, and have reduced the size of> > tumors in left breast and axilla. I had a CT scan which confirms it is> > local. I am to see an oncoligist next Wednesday and consult with> > complementary medical practitioner next week.> > I have not had surgery, chemo or radiation. > > I have had and still having an incredible journey with GOD my FATHER.> > Knowing Him more and better. I am positive. I know that He is in> > control and I am following the leads He gives me. I praise Him and> > thank Him. He is my refuge and strength. > > Thank you for being part of my journey and healing.> > Mary k> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I know of nothing that works as well as oleander for pancreatic cancer. The latest study I posted about was a study on oleander inducing autophagy (a type of cell death) in pancreatic cells. The same is true of liver cancer - oleander is extremely successful. Pancreatic cancer is one of the fastest acting and growing cancers and time is of the essence. If it were me, I would try to find a Beck, Rife or even Hulda Clark type zapper to hope to buy a bit of time, take oleander, inositol/IP6, colloidal silver and gold, plant derived trace minerals, etc., and take silymarin (milk thistle), alpha lipoic acid, selenium, turmeric, beet juice and coconut oil for the liver. Non animal lecithin is also recommended for the liver. And of course, immediately adopt a diet and lifestyle that was anti-cancer - cleansing, removal of all toxins (especially amalgam fillings) from the body and environment, raw and juiced vegetables and some fruits, no sugar at all, etc., as per my anti-cancer protocol. If I had pancreatic cancer, I believe that my entire diet would be juiced vegetables and some fruits, with added super green foods like chlorella and spirulina. I do know of one other thing, which is held closely under wraps and keeping a very low profile right now, that has had amazing results. Where does your friend live? What I am talking about ships from somewhere in Texas and has a fairly short shelf life. oleander soup , " william wilkins " <w.wilkins wrote: > > Tony< > I need help desperately. Someone sent a message (olender Soup) Foods that heal. It was from > May. I'll send the the request to her also. I hope at least one can resend it. Thanks , 7 families are providing food for a friend of mine that has pancreatic cancer that his doctor has said has already spread to his liver. There may not be enough time for oleander soup. > Any help the forum passes along on this one would be appreciated! > Thanks > Bill Wilkins > w.wilkins > > - > > oleander soup > Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:31 AM > Re: Tony need info > > > I relate to your experience and feel your pain with the black salve - > in fact, I am feeling it now! > > I am not sure what happened with your first couple of batches of > oleander, at least not with the one with the silver. The first one > was simply contaminated - it sounds like the oleander came from plants > growing by the side of a very busy road. > > As for as the second batch, I have seen many batches treated here with > silver now (a very good silver) and have not seen the fizziness > happen, which is of course fermentation. > > It sounds like your latest batch has turned out well and it will be > good to not have the on-again, off-again attempts to use the OS. I > would be willing to bet that the fact that your tumors have not grown > during the same time as you have been taking the recent batch is not > coincidental. I am also sure that your overall healthy lifestyle > plays an important role too. > > Maybe your son could order some Cell Forte from Utopia Silver while he > is here. If feasible, he could also get their colloidal silver - > which can be purchased in gallon and even five gallon sizes. The > first purchase is buy-one get-one-free. And remember, any item (such > as Inositol) from US that is not on sale is available to the group > here at 15% off if you use the code LR001 and follow one of the links > on my website (tbyil.com). > > I also found that US has customers in Australia and can ship whatever > you wish to order to you. The savings might be substantial in postage > if your son were to get the items you want - however, there is the > consideration of time, and you might just want to get some inositol > quickly to see how it does. > > Mary, be very careful to keep your liver protected and cleansed. > According to Gerson, cancer never appears except when the liver is > impaired to begin with, and a successful cancer elimination program > will put further stress on your liver. You can rebuild and protect it > though. Besides regular cleanses, milk thistle is the best liver > protector and regenerator. Also believed to be important is > alpha-lipoic acid, selenium, turmeric, beet juice and coconut oil. I > do ALL of them (in fact, I do everything in this message), except have > not yet been able to find any beet juice (yuck). Perhaps a trip to > eclectic Austin will be the solution? > > > > > oleander soup , " mary k " <maihards@> wrote: > > > > Tony, I started in Nov 2007 for about 10 days and it was > contaminated with > > lead and platinum and lead free petrol. I stopped and made some more > with > > colloidal silver, took it for 10 days and it went fizzy. I stopped that. > > Started again three weeks ago and am taking 1 tablespoon 3 X daily. The > > tumors have grown since I first started the OS but not in the last three > > weeks. I not sure how to say they have responded. Perhaps the time > has not > > been sufficient to make a difference. > > I was taking the black salve(zinc chloride, water, chaparral, bloodroot, > > graviola) 1small pea size in gelatin capsule 3 X daily. I also > applied it > > externally at 2 separate sites at different times, waiting for one > wound to > > heal before applying to new area where the tumors could be felt. Yes > I had > > substantial holes on the side of my breast. The scabs produced a lot > of pus. > > The areas have healed over now with new skin. Yes it was a painful > > experience. I am contemplating another session with black salve > internally > > I believe my change in diet, lifestyle and supplements has kept the > breaks > > on progression. God is on this case big time. > > I have a regular body function test done by examination of my siliva > and it > > shows progress. Just wonder whether the OS will work faster than the > cancer > > wants to grow? > > My son is in the USA for an undetermined time. He could possible > bring back > > a " Silver Puppy " and some Inositol/IP6. > > > > Thank you, Gods blessings on you, > > Mary > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > 2/02/2008 4:12:25 PM > > oleander soup > > Re: Tony need info > > > > Mary - > > > > How long have you been taking OS and how has your cancer and tumors > > Responded so far? What is the topical black salve for? Is it the > > Real deal - with blood root? The stuff I am using now for a spot on > > My face is eating a huge hole in my cheek - YEEEOOOOCH! > > > > I am not sure where you might find Inositol/IP6 in Australia, or high > > Quality colloidal silver. If I were to make my own colloidal silver I > > Would use the Silver Puppy machine, in my opinion the best by far for > > The money. > > > > I will see what I can find out, including possibly shipping from > > Utopia Silver to Australia. > > > > Be SURE to answer my questions! > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " Mary " <maihards@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tony, I am successfully taking OS preserved with vodka! Just read > > > your updated protocol. I am/have been following most of it and will > > > add the parts I haven't been doing. Where do I purchase Inositol/IP6 > > > and Utopia quality colloidal silver here in Australia? How do I know > > > it is good/reliable product. > > > I have just received my first order of Marc's OPC. I am taking the OS > > > 1 tablespoon tds, on all the recommended supplements plus a few > > > others, doing a liver/gallbladder cleanse from Tues next week. I have > > > done 3 courses of black salve internally and 2 topically. Then I will > > > start Sutherlandia OPC. > > > Also because of family and friends concern/pressure I have seen > > > doctors again. With the idea to de-bulk. The surgeon doesn't want to > > > operate until I have taken measures to, and have reduced the size of > > > tumors in left breast and axilla. I had a CT scan which confirms it is > > > local. I am to see an oncoligist next Wednesday and consult with > > > complementary medical practitioner next week. > > > I have not had surgery, chemo or radiation. > > > I have had and still having an incredible journey with GOD my FATHER. > > > Knowing Him more and better. I am positive. I know that He is in > > > control and I am following the leads He gives me. I praise Him and > > > thank Him. He is my refuge and strength. > > > Thank you for being part of my journey and healing. > > > Mary k > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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