Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hello everyone, I've only recently found out about oleander and its wonderful properties, it almost sounds too good to be true! I was thinking about ordering some Sutherlandia OPC from the sutherlandiaopc website and was just wondering if (1) Anybody here has ordered Sutherlandia OPC before? (2) How long does one 500ml bottle last (I'm guessing about a month if you take 5ml three times per day but just want to double check this is correct!) (3) Is there any significant difference between the oleander soup you make at home, anvirzel and Sutherlandia OPC? (4) Have many people here had success with using oleander wrt cancer treatment? Would be really grateful if I could get some advice from you guys. I tried to get in contact with the doctor from Ireland who was running the clinical trials of anvirzel a couple of years ago (thought it might be a good idea since I live about 2 hours drive away from his practice). I found out he no longer has anything to do with that drug and refuses to talk to people about it anymore. Hmmmmm. Thanks, Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Welcome to the group, " Simon " . " Oleander soup " was devised by one of the founders of this group who examined the original Ozel patent for Anvirzel and adapted it to an easy to make home remedy. In my opinion, it is virtually identical to Anvirzel except that it is not as precisely controlled as what one would get in a class 10 lab environment - and it is fresher and does not have to be freeze dried and re-constituted. Sutherlandia OPC, which a goodly number of group members use, is made by another member of our group and consists of 80% oleander extract made according to the directions for " oleander soup " and 20% Sutherlandia Frutescens (known as the South African Cancer Bush). I personally take the home made " soup " , but if I actually had cancer I would hasten to order some OPC. I can understand why Doctor Kelly over in Limerick, Ireland is reluctant to discuss his use of Anvirzel. From what I gather, he was spanked pretty severely by the medical authorities for his use of a non-approved and non mainstream medicine. You can see some of his reports in the book I wrote (which you purchased this week). It is worth noting that Doctor Ozel himself was brought up on charges in his native Turkey, but ultimately triumphed when the court was overwhelmed by testimonials from those whose lives he had saved with Anvirzel after conventional treatments had failed them. Yes, oleander can be quite miraculous and I have tremendous respect for it. Even so, I do not believe in any single magic bullet when it comes to cancer. I think that there is an entire anti-cancer protocol and lifestyle one must adopt and maintain to beat cancer and keep it at bay. My suggested anti-cancer protocol is included in my book; however, for the most recent version go to: /anticancer.htm People who have followed that protocol, or one similar to it, have been almost unanimously successful in beating cancer and keeping it at bay provided that they began it while there time left for it to work and provided that mainstream medicine had not damaged their major organs and immune systems beyond a point they could recover from. Feel free to ask any questions you may have at any time - and please let us know how you (or the person close to you who has the cancer if it is not you) get along. We are here for you. Live long, live healthy, live happy! oleander soup , " simonflynn22 " <simon041082 wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I've only recently found out about oleander and its wonderful > properties, it almost sounds too good to be true! I was thinking about > ordering some Sutherlandia OPC from the sutherlandiaopc website and was > just wondering if > > (1) Anybody here has ordered Sutherlandia OPC before? > (2) How long does one 500ml bottle last (I'm guessing about a month if > you take 5ml three times per day but just want to double check this is > correct!) > (3) Is there any significant difference between the oleander soup you > make at home, anvirzel and Sutherlandia OPC? > (4) Have many people here had success with using oleander wrt cancer > treatment? > > Would be really grateful if I could get some advice from you guys. I > tried to get in contact with the doctor from Ireland who was running > the clinical trials of anvirzel a couple of years ago (thought it might > be a good idea since I live about 2 hours drive away from his > practice). I found out he no longer has anything to do with that drug > and refuses to talk to people about it anymore. Hmmmmm. > > Thanks, > > Simon > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Tony, Very informative answer, but you did not address Simon's question on dosage. Is that the recommended dosage? Also thanks for sending the study on oleander. Andre - Tony oleander soup Friday, February 01, 2008 8:23 AM Re: New to group, need advice!!! Welcome to the group, "Simon"."Oleander soup" was devised by one of the founders of this group whoexamined the original Ozel patent for Anvirzel and adapted it to aneasy to make home remedy. In my opinion, it is virtually identical toAnvirzel except that it is not as precisely controlled as what onewould get in a class 10 lab environment - and it is fresher and doesnot have to be freeze dried and re-constituted.Sutherlandia OPC, which a goodly number of group members use, is madeby another member of our group and consists of 80% oleander extractmade according to the directions for "oleander soup" and 20%Sutherlandia Frutescens (known as the South African Cancer Bush). Ipersonally take the home made "soup", but if I actually had cancer Iwould hasten to order some OPC.I can understand why Doctor Kelly over in Limerick, Ireland isreluctant to discuss his use of Anvirzel. From what I gather, he wasspanked pretty severely by the medical authorities for his use of anon-approved and non mainstream medicine. You can see some of hisreports in the book I wrote (which you purchased this week).It is worth noting that Doctor Ozel himself was brought up on chargesin his native Turkey, but ultimately triumphed when the court wasoverwhelmed by testimonials from those whose lives he had saved withAnvirzel after conventional treatments had failed them.Yes, oleander can be quite miraculous and I have tremendous respectfor it. Even so, I do not believe in any single magic bullet when itcomes to cancer. I think that there is an entire anti-cancer protocoland lifestyle one must adopt and maintain to beat cancer and keep itat bay.My suggested anti-cancer protocol is included in my book; however, forthe most recent version go to:/anticancer.htmPeople who have followed that protocol, or one similar to it, havebeen almost unanimously successful in beating cancer and keeping it atbay provided that they began it while there time left for it to workand provided that mainstream medicine had not damaged their majororgans and immune systems beyond a point they could recover from.Feel free to ask any questions you may have at any time - and pleaselet us know how you (or the person close to you who has the cancer ifit is not you) get along. We are here for you.Live long, live healthy, live happy!Tonyoleander soup , "simonflynn22" <simon041082wrote:>> Hello everyone,> > I've only recently found out about oleander and its wonderful > properties, it almost sounds too good to be true! I was thinking about > ordering some Sutherlandia OPC from the sutherlandiaopc website and was > just wondering if> > (1) Anybody here has ordered Sutherlandia OPC before?> (2) How long does one 500ml bottle last (I'm guessing about a month if > you take 5ml three times per day but just want to double check this is > correct!)> (3) Is there any significant difference between the oleander soup you > make at home, anvirzel and Sutherlandia OPC?> (4) Have many people here had success with using oleander wrt cancer > treatment?> > Would be really grateful if I could get some advice from you guys. I > tried to get in contact with the doctor from Ireland who was running > the clinical trials of anvirzel a couple of years ago (thought it might > be a good idea since I live about 2 hours drive away from his > practice). I found out he no longer has anything to do with that drug > and refuses to talk to people about it anymore. Hmmmmm.> > Thanks,> > Simon> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Tony, Thanks for the study results and for this informative reply to Simon. Since I am also considering purchasing some Sutherlandia OPC, could you address his question about dosage? Thanks, Andre oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > Welcome to the group, " Simon " . > > " Oleander soup " was devised by one of the founders of this group who > examined the original Ozel patent for Anvirzel and adapted it to an > easy to make home remedy. In my opinion, it is virtually identical to > Anvirzel except that it is not as precisely controlled as what one > would get in a class 10 lab environment - and it is fresher and does > not have to be freeze dried and re-constituted. > > Sutherlandia OPC, which a goodly number of group members use, is made > by another member of our group and consists of 80% oleander extract > made according to the directions for " oleander soup " and 20% > Sutherlandia Frutescens (known as the South African Cancer Bush). I > personally take the home made " soup " , but if I actually had cancer I > would hasten to order some OPC. > > I can understand why Doctor Kelly over in Limerick, Ireland is > reluctant to discuss his use of Anvirzel. From what I gather, he was > spanked pretty severely by the medical authorities for his use of a > non-approved and non mainstream medicine. You can see some of his > reports in the book I wrote (which you purchased this week). > > It is worth noting that Doctor Ozel himself was brought up on charges > in his native Turkey, but ultimately triumphed when the court was > overwhelmed by testimonials from those whose lives he had saved with > Anvirzel after conventional treatments had failed them. > > Yes, oleander can be quite miraculous and I have tremendous respect > for it. Even so, I do not believe in any single magic bullet when it > comes to cancer. I think that there is an entire anti-cancer protocol > and lifestyle one must adopt and maintain to beat cancer and keep it > at bay. > > My suggested anti-cancer protocol is included in my book; however, for > the most recent version go to: > > /anticancer.htm > > People who have followed that protocol, or one similar to it, have > been almost unanimously successful in beating cancer and keeping it at > bay provided that they began it while there time left for it to work > and provided that mainstream medicine had not damaged their major > organs and immune systems beyond a point they could recover from. > > Feel free to ask any questions you may have at any time - and please > let us know how you (or the person close to you who has the cancer if > it is not you) get along. We are here for you. > > Live long, live healthy, live happy! > > > > > > oleander soup , " simonflynn22 " <simon041082@> > wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I've only recently found out about oleander and its wonderful > > properties, it almost sounds too good to be true! I was thinking about > > ordering some Sutherlandia OPC from the sutherlandiaopc website and was > > just wondering if > > > > (1) Anybody here has ordered Sutherlandia OPC before? > > (2) How long does one 500ml bottle last (I'm guessing about a month if > > you take 5ml three times per day but just want to double check this is > > correct!) > > (3) Is there any significant difference between the oleander soup you > > make at home, anvirzel and Sutherlandia OPC? > > (4) Have many people here had success with using oleander wrt cancer > > treatment? > > > > Would be really grateful if I could get some advice from you guys. I > > tried to get in contact with the doctor from Ireland who was running > > the clinical trials of anvirzel a couple of years ago (thought it might > > be a good idea since I live about 2 hours drive away from his > > practice). I found out he no longer has anything to do with that drug > > and refuses to talk to people about it anymore. Hmmmmm. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Simon > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Andre and others, The 500ml Sutherlandia OPC is enough for 1 month at 5ml, 3 times per day. The capsules, which are equivalent to the 500ml bottle, are also enough for one month. I am busy producing the S/OPC in bulk and, as discussed with Tony, will reduce the price within the next month. Regards, Marc Swanepoel Johannesburg - anjuvick oleander soup Friday, February 01, 2008 10:12 PM Re: New to group, need advice!!! Tony,Thanks for the study results and for this informative reply to Simon.Since I am also considering purchasing some Sutherlandia OPC, could you address his question about dosage?Thanks,Andreoleander soup , "Tony" wrote:>> Welcome to the group, "Simon".> > "Oleander soup" was devised by one of the founders of this group who> examined the original Ozel patent for Anvirzel and adapted it to an> easy to make home remedy. In my opinion, it is virtually identical to> Anvirzel except that it is not as precisely controlled as what one> would get in a class 10 lab environment - and it is fresher and does> not have to be freeze dried and re-constituted.> > Sutherlandia OPC, which a goodly number of group members use, is made> by another member of our group and consists of 80% oleander extract> made according to the directions for "oleander soup" and 20%> Sutherlandia Frutescens (known as the South African Cancer Bush). I> personally take the home made "soup", but if I actually had cancer I> would hasten to order some OPC.> > I can understand why Doctor Kelly over in Limerick, Ireland is> reluctant to discuss his use of Anvirzel. From what I gather, he was> spanked pretty severely by the medical authorities for his use of a> non-approved and non mainstream medicine. You can see some of his> reports in the book I wrote (which you purchased this week).> > It is worth noting that Doctor Ozel himself was brought up on charges> in his native Turkey, but ultimately triumphed when the court was> overwhelmed by testimonials from those whose lives he had saved with> Anvirzel after conventional treatments had failed them.> > Yes, oleander can be quite miraculous and I have tremendous respect> for it. Even so, I do not believe in any single magic bullet when it> comes to cancer. I think that there is an entire anti-cancer protocol> and lifestyle one must adopt and maintain to beat cancer and keep it> at bay.> > My suggested anti-cancer protocol is included in my book; however, for> the most recent version go to:> > /anticancer.htm> > People who have followed that protocol, or one similar to it, have> been almost unanimously successful in beating cancer and keeping it at> bay provided that they began it while there time left for it to work> and provided that mainstream medicine had not damaged their major> organs and immune systems beyond a point they could recover from.> > Feel free to ask any questions you may have at any time - and please> let us know how you (or the person close to you who has the cancer if> it is not you) get along. We are here for you.> > Live long, live healthy, live happy!> > Tony> > > > oleander soup , "simonflynn22" <simon041082@>> wrote:> >> > Hello everyone,> > > > I've only recently found out about oleander and its wonderful > > properties, it almost sounds too good to be true! I was thinking about > > ordering some Sutherlandia OPC from the sutherlandiaopc website and was > > just wondering if> > > > (1) Anybody here has ordered Sutherlandia OPC before?> > (2) How long does one 500ml bottle last (I'm guessing about a month if > > you take 5ml three times per day but just want to double check this is > > correct!)> > (3) Is there any significant difference between the oleander soup you > > make at home, anvirzel and Sutherlandia OPC?> > (4) Have many people here had success with using oleander wrt cancer > > treatment?> > > > Would be really grateful if I could get some advice from you guys. I > > tried to get in contact with the doctor from Ireland who was running > > the clinical trials of anvirzel a couple of years ago (thought it might > > be a good idea since I live about 2 hours drive away from his > > practice). I found out he no longer has anything to do with that drug > > and refuses to talk to people about it anymore. Hmmmmm.> > > > Thanks,> > > > Simon> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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